Yes it’ll be interesting if Breeze can make it work. It’s odd for Breeze to split itself between PNS and MOB. 2x weekly is bare bones…still going to potentially bleed some traffic to NK flying PNS-MCO daily. Avelo seemed to start out strong in BFM, but then loads deteriorated quickly in Fall and Win...
Jump to postBreeze starting PNS-TPA service 2x weekly in June. They will also offer “Breeze Thru” service to ORF. I certainly didn’t expect this. It’s a bit of an odd choice but makes some sense with the thru service to ORF. Fares on PNS-TPA are high and could use some stimulation…..though might further erode S...
Jump to postMOB-IAD 2x Daily on United beginning on June 27. https://www.al.com/news/mobile/2024/03/mobile-getting-nonstop-flights-to-washington-dc-courtesy-of-united.html I assume both will be on RJ145s. It will be interesting to see how they manage the IAH frequencies. Hopefully they’re using E175s. If they ...
Jump to postI am curious to know how DL did/is doing on daily PNS-LGA... it seems it comes and goes regularly. I don’t think it does too well….hence why it doesn’t stick around consistently. I think DL has more LGA slots than they know what to do with and they throw them at places like PNS during the lower sea...
Jump to postNo announcement from ECP, but AA has bookable (Eagle) June to August Saturday-only to/from BOS. They also added back AUS but on seasonal as well. Is southwest bringing back any of the Saturday only flights from last year for this summer? I don’t know about ECP, but I know in PNS that Southwest will...
Jump to postAll well said; although IAD opened 62yrs ago not 70, but still shocking to think it's been THAT long; I'd never thought about it till now! I actually meant to say 60 — either way I mathed wrong. LOL your otherwise always-valuable & erudite contributions earn you a big pass. And it's funny how t...
Jump to postI have serious doubts UA will get to seven banks at IAD. I don’t think they’ll have the planes to pull it off. I don’t think Boeing and Airbus can deliver not to mention all the 50 seaters. How much longer will Commutair 50 seaters limp along? The 7 bank talk is just to keep pressure on MWAA to actu...
Jump to postSome Gulf Coast News: PNS getting new Frontier service to CLE, CVG and PHL …all will be 3x weekly. AA has already responded on the PHL route doubling service and upgrading one flight from E175 to A319. Avelo is adding HVN-VPS 2x weekly. The ULCCs are really starting to grow in. The Panhandle….oddly ...
Jump to postI think CLE-PNS can work at 3x weekly. At least during the high seasons it should be fine. G4 flies routes like HTS-VPS and EVV-VPS, so I feel like F9 can make CLE-PNS work. Do people in Mobile use PNS? Not sure of the demand on CLE-Mobile, but I could see that city contributing feed to the route g...
Jump to postI think CLE-PNS can work at 3x weekly. At least during the high seasons it should be fine.
G4 flies routes like HTS-VPS and EVV-VPS, so I feel like F9 can make CLE-PNS work.
RL757PVD wrote:While the VPS area has beautiful beaches, its largely unknown to the Northeast, I expect that one to struggle.
ATL could probably one of the few non-Florida markets that would do well from ILG
Can somebody answer me this… I have been flying in and out of PNS for about seven years now on a pretty consistent basis… The airport IMO is terribly mismanaged, cannot sustain air service, has gates that are constantly under utilized, TSA agents who have no clue how to work their own baggage scann...
Jump to postPlus NK flies PNS-FLL. Nonetheless, your point stands. The intrastate market isn’t that robust. Mainly because much of it is still easily reachable by car between the biggest metro areas. Only EYW and the Panhandle are remote enough where flying is really favorable , but the populations aren’t that ...
Jump to postSilver airways has announced. They are returning to PBI With flights to TLH and PNS. PBI-TLH has been flown before. It might work though B6 might kill yields in FLL. PBI-PNS has never been flown before. It’s only 2x weekly, but I give low probability it survives. Plus Silver is horribly unreliable.
Jump to postI’m surprised that B6 put an A320 on TLH-FLL. I would have expected them to start with a smaller plane.
Jump to postI guess MOB/BFM can be in both, though the Alabama thread seems focused mostly on HSV and BHM.
I think adding TLH here makes sense. I’m curious if B6 can make TLH work. Anyone know how bookings look?
Questions for 2024: Can Spirit sustain any new routes at PNS? Looks like they’re trying DFW again in May? Will PNS break ground on the new terminal expansion by the end of 24….probably not. Will Avelo come back to BFM after the spring hiatus? G4 seems pretty flat at VPS…curious if they add anything ...
Jump to postI think something is off with your data. Other sources I’ve seen have shown the BFM flights with pretty poor loads in the 50-60% range.
Not a good sign to suspend in March-April when demand to MCO should be strong. Maybe it’ll come back, but I have doubts.
Not surprised to see G4 exit VPS-MSP…with SY and DL on the route too, it was too much capacity.
VPS-BWI is a bit more curious, though I guess WN wore them down.
Here are the largest markets by revenue across all airlines that are unserved by UA to Europe. O&D only, per direction, and revenue is averaged per day. Not including IST simply because of TKs wide reach and the lack of diversity of airlines at IST for that reason. All over $40K listed except f...
Jump to postWhy would DL or UA fly DCA-SAN….I don’t see either going for it. It would seem to me that either AA or AS would do DCA-SAN. Wildcard would be WN, but they struggle a bit with transcons.
Jump to postFor IAD-SEA, you have to remember that there are hubs on both ends for all three carriers, so some of the traffic is just connecting through. It’s also summer and lots of tourism on both ends, particularly people going to SEA for cruises. The number of frequencies drops off quite a bit as you get in...
Jump to postUnited does not have the staffing they claim to have. It’s why I have doubt about UA growing hubs like ORD or IAD as large as some think. The staffing isn’t there in the summer months to sustain it….particularly when things go wrong as they inevitably will. Of course, EWR has always been overschedul...
Jump to postI’ve always thought they should just take the existing A/B tunnel to the main terminal and reuse that to feed people to Customs and Immigration. You’d have to create some sterile walkways from the A/B gates and from the tunnel to Customs, but it’s a better use than the current largely unused tunnel.
Jump to postPatrick Quayle just did a 30-min podcast with Crank Flier. It's interesting. When asked about ORD, he saw 'stability'. He didn't indicate that there was an expectation of massive growth there. United still hasn't gotten ORD back to its pre-covid summer daily departures and I know some of it has to ...
Jump to postI’m surprised AS doesn’t want more slots at DCA. Maybe they don’t want Delta on DCA-SEA.
Jump to postI have doubts UA will get to 7 banks, but even if they do I imagine they’d only be around 50 flights per bank, so no more than about 350 flights. That would still be a huge increase considering IAD is only about 220 flights right now.
Jump to postI half suspect the desired end-game for many of the airlines is a permanent slot reduction at LGA. Whether the reason be ATC staffing, or environmental reasons (ie AMS), whatever means is sufficient as long as it meets the end goal of reducing LGA slots. A slot reduction is a double win for the leg...
Jump to postDL is adding a Saturday 717 flight between DTW and VPS beginning in June. Good use for a 717 when the schedule dips on Saturdays. Curious why DL would add service to VPS in June. As someone who grew up in the FL panhandle not that far from VPS I can tell you firsthand it’s unbearable this time of y...
Jump to postHow does the new concourse cause more delays?
The number of slots at DCA is unchanged from 2019. I’m genuinely curious.
Is this the first time IAD has ever had nonstop service to YYC?
I agree it’s odd that some will fly YYC-IAD, but no one on YVR. I know pre COVID, UA did a Saturday only flight from IAD to YVR.
Really like AS adding IAD-SAN. Definitely a route that could use some competition outside of UA. IAD-LAS is another route that absolutely feels like it could use some more competition, more so with a LCC. Maybe G4 or WN could add IAD-LAS to some capacity down the road. I agree that IAD-LAS could us...
Jump to postUnited has been cutting IAD-SAN down to only 2x daily, so they've been creating a real gap in the market....good to see AS step in to provide more competition.
Jump to postWhen do the Polaris retrofits on the 764 finish?
Looking at taking a 764 to BER this summer but want the new Polaris.
It’s always been a surprise that none of the ULCCs have been willing to try ECP. There were rumors about Breeze in the past, but nothing.
It’s another reason I’m suspicious of BFM’s ability to attract ULCCs. ECP has a far better tourism draw, though BFM certainly has a larger local population.
I think BFM will steal back a little traffic but not much…unless they can really attract some new LCCs. BFM will still be too far away from the beaches to be all that appealing for most tourists….particularly if JKA gets service. The likes of Breeze seem to struggle in markets far bigger than Mobile...
Jump to postNK has also loaded DFW-PNS to return in May along with their existing flights to MCO and FLL. UA seems to have brought mainline back to ORD-PNS even for the slower winter period. I Unfortunately, AA zeroed out BOS-PNS for next year, but that one was pretty long thin route for daily service. Given th...
Jump to postAL.com ran an article on the new Mobile International with its groundbreaking today! Of course they focused on the increased cost estimate due to materials. The most interesting piece though is that the MAA director indicated that an IAD flight is in the works, and he claims it would have already h...
Jump to postNorse opts for LGW-IAD over LGW-BWI, as it was reported last summer. Still sounds like nothing concrete has been filed but their intentions have changed. https://twitter.com/IshrionA/status/1598769739957997578 First carrier in a while on LGW-IAD, but competing with three carriers on London-IAD. I’m...
Jump to postMax Q wrote:Surprised no one has brought up the possibility of these crew bases being the precursor to opening a new hub or hubs, MCO seems particularly likely
Spirit relaunched PNS yesterday. Flights are to MCO and FLL. Not sure this experiment will work, but I’ll give Spirit credit for trying…..especially given their staffing shortages.
However, due to Hurricane Nicole flights are getting cancelled today and tomorrow.
At PNS, WN is #3 behind DL and AA.
At VPS, WN is #4 behind G4, AA and DL.
There can be variations at a monthly level, but these are the positions annualized.
I agree the ATC excuse is lame….granted I think they were talking about ZJX (Jacksonville Center) not PNS or P31. Bottomline, NK’s performance on most routes was terrible. However, I think a few routes could work if timed right and capacity managed. We’ll see how the return to MCO and FLL do. Other ...
Jump to postSupposedly NK will resume PNS service in the November with flights to MCO and FLL. I have my doubts though.
NK dumped too much capacity in when they launched in 2021 and then had such reliability problems they were doomed from the start.
I just question how much capacity JKA can really handle when the LCCs and ULCCS are all slashing capacity along the Panhandle compared to last year. A few flights on G4 sure, but beyond that I’m not convinced the AL/FL gulf coast needs that much more capacity.
Jump to postI see from the call that United is complaining about EWR delays “caused” by NK and B6. Ironic given UA has been taking RJ flights out of IAD and dumping them into EWR to fill space.
Jump to postwhich is why the NEA solves that problem. Now people who don't think LCC is enough will keep their business with AA. As for SEA, AS appears to be too dominant there right now in terms of domestic local market share. DL had a chance to push things harder during COVID, but they didn't do so. I think ...
Jump to postSE Michigan isn't a Panhandle crowd. Tampa, Sarasota, Fort Myers. Twenty years ago I would have agreed with you. Today is a different story with ULCC stimulation. If markets like PIT, LCK, CVG, BWI can support regular service to the Panhandle (albeit not daily), I think DTW could too. Heck, we’re s...
Jump to postI’d be surprised if NK adds PHL-PNS…with AA there I’m not sure it’s worth it.
I do think PNS-DTW could work. Probably work even better than routes like SDF-PNS which NK oddly added. I guess the only hesitation with DTW is the inevitable reaction from DL.