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by cathay747
Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines questions
Replies: 71
Views: 8894

Re: Western Airlines questions

We were unionized BRAC. Brotherhood of Railway and Airlines Clerks. Thank you for that. I worked for WA in SMF for 4 months in 1982-83 when on furlough from AirCal. Joined BRAC after the third, qualifying month, but never knew what it stood for. Recalled back to AirCal, so that was it. --- So to co...

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by cathay747
Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines questions
Replies: 71
Views: 8894

Re: Western Airlines questions

That and the auxiliary exit just aft of the wings. As far as I know, the 707-320B did not have that exit. I worked for Braniff. Our 327B's had the auxilliary exit, so at least some of them did. Interesting to know. Have you any pictures? I can’t find any record of Braniff having operated the 707-32...

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by cathay747
Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines questions
Replies: 71
Views: 8894

Re: Western Airlines questions

They did a fair amount of TV advertising featuring a cartoon bird leaning against the tail sipping champagne and uttering their slogan, “The only way to fly.” His name was Wally Bird...which is my avatar here (although it's cropped by anet) and here's a couple links to online pics of him that WA us...

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by cathay747
Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines questions
Replies: 71
Views: 8894

Re: Western Airlines questions

http://www.departedflights.com/WA030181p8.html

This is in addition, as you'll see, to the DEN-LGW service too.
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Max Q wrote:
Didnt they operate a HNL-ANC-LGW flight ?


Yes they sure did...in 1981, per this timetable, but I don't know when it started or how long it lasted: http://www.departedflights.com/WA030181p8.html

This is in addition, as you'll see, to the DEN-LGW service too.

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by cathay747
Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines questions
Replies: 71
Views: 8894

Re: Western Airlines questions

3. WA never served Hawaii from SMF or any other "smaller airports"; they were awarded Hawaii routes from SFO/LAX/SAN/ANC/MSP of which they operated all of them at one point or another; I don't know if the pre-dereg. Hawaii route award(s) ever included SEA, PDX, SLC or DEN. Actually, there...

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by cathay747
Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines questions
Replies: 71
Views: 8894

Re: Western Airlines questions

WA did serve DCA National. They certainly did! If I recall, they flew DCA-IAD-SLC. Yes, they did that, similar to how AA & BN served DCA<>DFW via IAD (and AA also did it via BWI), but that was later; WA's initial service to/from DCA was from MSP which of course was within the perimeter.

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by cathay747
Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines questions
Replies: 71
Views: 8894

Re: Western Airlines questions

I flew a Western DC-10 from LAX to Mexico City. Western was a regional airline serving western states and Hawaii and Mexico. They also provided champaign service to Hawaii from smaller airports like Sacramento. They created a hub and spoke operation in Salt Lake City, UT. I'm afraid you've got a lo...

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by cathay747
Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 361
Views: 43574

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020

So for another "I wonder why"...a NASA airplane based at ELP? Wikipedia: El Paso Forward Operating Location is a division of the Johnson Space Center. It is home to the one and only Super Guppy, and NASA's T-38 Depot Maintenance Facility. It was also the former home of the Shuttle Trainin...

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by cathay747
Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Northwest Orient and Northwest Airlines
Replies: 57
Views: 10511

Re: Northwest Orient and Northwest Airlines

Northwest didn't have a significant presence on the East Coast, except to feed into its DTW, MSP, and MEM hubs, and a direct, nonstop between JFK and NRT, which was known to be a loss leading flight (sort of prestige route with no feed) but also at a time when flying to Asia from the East Coast was...

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by cathay747
Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Northwest Orient and Northwest Airlines
Replies: 57
Views: 10511

Re: Northwest Orient and Northwest Airlines

Northwest Orient had a great jingle with the "The World Is Going Our Way" ad campaign. It was my favorite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_4_3ft8W_w I prefer the radio jingle; eating my breakfast before heading to school. https://youtu.be/dxcMUWbqu44 God, I remember those! Living in the...

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by cathay747
Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 361
Views: 43574

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020

The NASA Super Guppy N941NA is doing touch and goes at Gateway right now. According to Wiki, it's the only surviving Guppy in the world. I wonder why? But it would be fun to watch. And not surprised it's now the last one, talk about elderly! I remember when Airbus used their old variation of it how...

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by cathay747
Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 361
Views: 43574

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020

The NASA Super Guppy N941NA is doing touch and goes at Gateway right now. According to Wiki, it's the only surviving Guppy in the world. I wonder why? But it would be fun to watch. And not surprised it's now the last one, talk about elderly! I remember when Airbus used their old variation of it how...

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by cathay747
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 1452
Views: 204953

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

AS & AA partnership coming into play: AA cut Los Angeles to Eugene, Fresno, Louisville, Medford, Redmond/Bend, and San Diego, guess what AS announced a couple weeks ago.....LAX to Eugene, Fresno, Medford, and Redmond/Bend..... Wouldn't that count as coordination? Or is just coincidental in this...

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by cathay747
Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1118
Views: 182205

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

That doesn't make any sense...if there are 2 bunks, don't tell me AA was forced by some idiocy to have to block a J-seat so if BOTH pilots on rest break wanted to sit vs. lay down they can??? It’s contractual with APA. The power of the union. We do the same thing on the 772. The pilots have 2 bunks...

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by cathay747
Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: End of an era: Last Qantas 747 retired today
Replies: 119
Views: 20829

Re: End of an era: Last Qantas 747 retired today

Maybe John Travolta will buy this Qantas aircraft too, to add to his personal historic fleet. John Travolta donated his 707 to HARS (aviation museum south of Sydney) last year. It is still being made airworthy prior to being flown back to Australia. Wow...didn't know this as I'd not heard/read anyt...

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by cathay747
Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1118
Views: 182205

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Yes there are crew bunks. But from what I understand, there is one J seat reserved for pilot resting due to contractual obligations. I don't know the criteria as I mentioned before. However, the 788 is sold as a 19J flights among many AA routes. No seat is blocked on the 787. They have a huge area ...

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by cathay747
Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1118
Views: 182205

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

American's next 787-8, N872AN, has been painted and returned to PAE earlier today: https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/1286019336608440320/photo/1 Any words on the configurations? Still the dreaded 20J (19J in long haul)? Why do AA 787-8 have only 20 J seats ? That is way too few, they need more a...

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by cathay747
Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: End of an era: Last Qantas 747 retired today
Replies: 119
Views: 20829

Re: End of an era: Last Qantas 747 retired today

http://www.aussieairliners.org/b-747/vh-eba/vheba.html
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Magnificent thread! So sad.

Here is an EXCELLENT web page/site devoted to QF's first 747, -238B VH-EBA, with a huge amount of wonderful pics, many probably "never" seen before: http://www.aussieairliners.org/b-747/vh-eba/vheba.html

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by cathay747
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avianca schedules a one time non-stop Tokyo - Bogota flight
Replies: 3
Views: 1830

Re: Avianca schedules a one time non-stop Tokyo - Bogota flight

BOG is hot and high though. AV does not have any plane that can make it all the way. I suspect that it would have to make a stop for fuel somewhere...probably at YVR or ANC. Even MDE is hot and high. CLO is perhaps possible. The nonstop in question is from NRT to BOG, not out of BOG , so no hot/hig...

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by cathay747
Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:53 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Airplane! On Netflix starting today
Replies: 46
Views: 4029

Re: Airplane! On Netflix starting today

"It's a big building with patients."

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by cathay747
Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:53 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Airplane! On Netflix starting today
Replies: 46
Views: 4029

Re: Airplane! On Netflix starting today

lightsaber wrote:
The redzone is for immediate loading and unloading.


Don't start that crap again.

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by cathay747
Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 767-400s at LaGuardia
Replies: 52
Views: 8761

Re: 767-400s at LaGuardia

I remember back in the early 2000s, DL regularly used wide body aircraft on short domestic routes. Even their daily short hops from ATL to JAX utilized the B767-300, MCO & FLL (B767-400, B777-200), MIA/PBI/TPA/RSW (B767-400). But the most intriguing to me was the LGA service from ATL on the B76...

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by cathay747
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747
Replies: 49
Views: 5786

Re: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747

cathay747 - I did use beyond instead of "in addition to" as to food and drinks/service descriptions. Maybe too much info, but things I do still recall 49 years later :old: as distinctive to that flight. I did not like the Mai Tai and switched to the Primo beer. The Surfrider is now part o...

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by cathay747
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 361
Views: 43574

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020

chrisair wrote:
Any insight in to how busy T3 is these days?


Well, one thing is missing and that's HA...they're now scheduled to resume PHX-HNL on 01AUG (with inbound obviously on 31JUL), and interestingly, as of now anyway, GDS shows it with a 321n thru 16AUG then back to a 332.

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by cathay747
Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747
Replies: 49
Views: 5786

Re: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747

...but they gave me the entire back row and beyond two meals...Catering was by "Trader Vic's" and beyond Mai Tai's... I do remember a big sign in the BAL gate area with a picture of the DC8 with the logo "Super 8 to the Aloha State." I returned on a routing HNL-SFO-IAD all on DC...

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by cathay747
Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747
Replies: 49
Views: 5786

Re: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747

Great info here on early service to Hawaii! Some very informative posts. For the youngsters or non-american readers wondering why Baltimore and Detroit had service, in the 1960 US Census, the largest cities were: 1-New York 2-Chicago 3-Los Angeles 4-Philadelphia 5-Detroit 6-Baltimore 7 Houston 8-Cl...

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by cathay747
Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747
Replies: 49
Views: 5786

Re: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747

Great info here on early service to Hawaii! Some very informative posts. For the youngsters or non-american readers wondering why Baltimore and Detroit had service, in the 1960 US Census, the largest cities were: 1-New York 2-Chicago 3-Los Angeles 4-Philadelphia 5-Detroit 6-Baltimore 7 Houston 8-Cl...

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by cathay747
Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747
Replies: 49
Views: 5786

Re: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747

The saga of mainland service in Hilo is definitely one of the more interesting chapters in Hawaiian aviation. As you said, in the early 1960s the state was actively looking to develop a second gateway to supplement HNL. Hilo was (and still is!) the second-biggest city in the state, and ITO was site...

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by cathay747
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747
Replies: 49
Views: 5786

Re: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747

ITO-ORD is quite a timetable find. CO route maps (including the 1969 one I just posed above) also show ITO-ORD, and I swear I've seen in a schedule that they actually operated the route, also eastbound-only same as UA, but the departedflights website doesn't have a CO timetable or OAG earlier than ...

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by cathay747
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747
Replies: 49
Views: 5786

Re: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747

Thanks all for the bits about CO on ITO-ORD nonstop...I KNEW I'd seen it in a schedule and wasn't hallucinating!! LOL Also, I stand corrected on UA DTW-HNL nonstop...as I was typing my reply above, I hesitated about DTW as I wasn't 100% sure it wasn't nonstop and settled on my fuzzy memory that DTW ...

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by cathay747
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747
Replies: 49
Views: 5786

Re: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747

ITO-ORD is quite a timetable find. CO route maps (including the 1969 one I just posed above) also show ITO-ORD, and I swear I've seen in a schedule that they actually operated the route, also eastbound-only same as UA, but the departedflights website doesn't have a CO timetable or OAG earlier than ...

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by cathay747
Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747
Replies: 49
Views: 5786

Re: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747

BUF to HNL Non-Stop? How great is that. It never operated. Nor did nonstops from CLE/BOS/PHL/PIT/DTW-HNL. UA only operated nonstops from ORD/JFK/BAL. The BAL flight did a tag to/from PHL; IIRC a DTW tag was done on the ORD flight, although I think it was an on/off thing. And initially, they were al...

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by cathay747
Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747
Replies: 49
Views: 5786

Re: UA Route Frequency to Hawaii, Pre-747

These were all routes that were awarded to UA by the CAB in November 1968 as part of a Transpacific Route Investigation. Most were never served. AA, BN, CO, NW, TW, and WA also got generous route authorities out of this route investigation. :checkmark: Many airline route maps in the day were inaccu...

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by cathay747
Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 1452
Views: 204953

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Everyone's swarming to Florida. New routes added by JetBlue and Frontier are to Florida. Why is this? Makes absolutely no sense to me, especially with the COVID explosion happening there, I would think that it should be cratering now, again, regardless of any short-term bubble in weeks past. I mean...

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by cathay747
Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 1452
Views: 204953

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

The Florida governor has closed bars and clubs again. The mayor Miami Beach is closing the beach again for the July 4th weekend and that may be extended. No beaches, no nightlife and let's see what Florida traffic looks. It's not like it's winter and 20 degrees in the NE and 80 degrees with no humi...

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by cathay747
Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 1452
Views: 204953

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Everyone's swarming to Florida. New routes added by JetBlue and Frontier are to Florida. Why is this? Makes absolutely no sense to me, especially with the COVID explosion happening there, I would think that it should be cratering now, again, regardless of any short-term bubble in weeks past. I mean...

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by cathay747
Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 1452
Views: 204953

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Everyone's swarming to Florida. New routes added by JetBlue and Frontier are to Florida. Why is this? Makes absolutely no sense to me, especially with the COVID explosion happening there, I would think that it should be cratering now, again, regardless of any short-term bubble in weeks past. I mean...

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by cathay747
Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA early 747 question
Replies: 78
Views: 10163

Re: AA early 747 question

WA707atMSP wrote:
AA and TWA also had Los Angeles-Baltimore authority, although they didn't always use it.


Thanks for the correction; I didn't know that, but it makes sense.

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by cathay747
Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1118
Views: 182205

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

With the Oasis seating, AA basically matched the layout and pitch of the MAX, both seat 172. It's possible that they will Kodiak the fleet before RTS but there are other tasks such as separating wiring bundles and checking and repairing engine nacelles for lightning strike protection and probably o...

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by cathay747
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA early 747 question
Replies: 78
Views: 10163

Re: AA early 747 question

In 1971 I flew from LAX to WAS (don't remember the airport) in an AA 747. There was a lounge at the rear of the cabin. I took a photo of it which (hopefully) can be viewed here [photoid]http://www.stubchaer.com/AA_B747_1971.jpg[/photoid]. I just joined Airliners and this is my first post, so I'm a ...

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by cathay747
Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1118
Views: 182205

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Ah OK, thanks for the replies. But yeah, does AA know something that's not been publicly said about a RTS of the MAX? Interesting. And wouldn't those MAX's have been delivered with Oasis?

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by cathay747
Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 377 Cabin question
Replies: 51
Views: 10258

Re: Boeing 377 Cabin question

I know that by the early-1970s, the ICAO was very strict with regulating what type of service airlines could offer. So perhaps international regulation influenced the PAA Stratocruiser standards. Anyway, we certainly know that buy on board did not originate after 9/11! I think you mean IATA, not IC...

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by cathay747
Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1118
Views: 182205

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

OK so what's with these MAX airplanes being moved from ROW to TUL?

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by cathay747
Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA early 747 question
Replies: 78
Views: 10163

Re: AA early 747 question

https://i.imgur.com/LuLxsNA.png While this first one is in the paa configuration, notice the first class extends into the c zone where paa had all coach czone back. https://i.imgur.com/xHZfri0.jpg For this one, which is late 1970, you can see the tables in the b zone for dining and you can see the ...

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by cathay747
Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1118
Views: 182205

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Which aircraft will replace the 752 in flights to South America? DFW-LIM - 787-8 MIA-LIM - 3x A321ceo MIA-BSB - A321ceo I have to believe they will upgrade all the SA stuff to the NEO. Just waiting for a tail delivery to do it? I know LATAM is gone, but did AA have any JV restrictions to South Amer...

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by cathay747
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1118
Views: 182205

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Here’s a nice update on AA’s deliveries this year: https://simpleflying.com/american-airlines-new-plane-cost/ Good article about the fact of the deliveries but bad analysis. AA's 22 MAX aircraft MAY not be delivered because AA said it won't take delivery of any MAX until it is re-certified by the F...

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by cathay747
Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?
Replies: 85
Views: 10887

Re: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?

The A321XLR has a published range of 4,700nm in a two class configuration, which takes in to account normal reserve requirements. HNL-PHL is under 4,300 nm. This would be the perfect plane for DTW-HNL say 2 or 3 times weekly. I don’t see HA adding DTW for a long time, if ever. I can think of severa...

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by cathay747
Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?
Replies: 85
Views: 10887

Re: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?

Ziyulu wrote:
Could they do 5th freedom routes?


What do you mean by this? We are speaking of U.S. domestic flying (within the 48 state "Mainland" specifically) in this thread, not international.

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by cathay747
Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?
Replies: 85
Views: 10887

Re: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?

IIRC there was talk in another thread about HA and possible new Mainland routes (which do pop up somewhat regularly!) of maybe AUS-HNL, which is a very interesting possibility and would be a monopoly-market. Possibly ABQ could work too. And I believe that's the main element needed...any Mainland exp...

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by cathay747
Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?
Replies: 85
Views: 10887

Re: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?

Compared to North American tag-on flts w/ the A321neo, I thought it was gonna be more likely that HA would start triangle South Pacific routes like HNL-PPT-RAR-HNL, HNL-PPG-APW-HNL, HNL-MAJ-KWA-HNL, HNL-NAN-TBU-HNL. I guess the market is not there. Aren't those Micronesia Routes already being flown...

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