Don't Boeing occasionally rent a Beluga from Airbus?
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Jump to post1. I said in my post that <b>most</b> of the airlines mentioned were pretty new, not all. I know that <acronym title="Southwest Airlines (USA)">WN</acronym> are older, and I also know that they have an extremely impressive safety record. Not mentioning them isn't disrespect. 2. I used to work in the...
Jump to post"Until we start making our planes so big there are now doors going out the bottom and top. No just kidding, but it is a thought. (Don't tell Airbus)"
The Il-86 made a start on this concept, I guess.
Mike
<i>"Good day all, <acronym title="Aer Arann Express (Ireland)">RE</acronym>: B777 2-5-2 Seating In my honest opinion, I hate this seating configuration. As a passenger, I would hate it so very much to be seated in the middle of the "5" if I'm travelling alone. If I do fly on this configuration, whic...
Jump to post"How is the window person in a 3-3-3 any harder to serve vs. the 5'th person in the 2-5-2?"
It isn't, both are as difficult, but 3-3-3 has twice as many difficult seats.
Mike
No disrespect to any of these airlines, but most of them are pretty new. We might as well add Independence Air to the list. These newer airlines are operating in an era of greatly improved air safety. This does not mean that they would have had accidents if they were older. Airlines such as British ...
Jump to post"Of course you probably could fit in 3-5-3 but I do not forsee the A380 going to any budget or charter operator in the medium-term future."
IIRC, Emirates have their 777s configured 3-4-3, and they're neither. In fact don't they have A380s on order? Watch this space?
Mike
"Don't LH fly a business only 737 from Duesseldorf maybe, to the USA?"
Isn't that the PrivatAir BBJ? Longer range than a conventional 737.
Mike
<a href="http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2003/photorelease/q1/pr_030129h1.html" target=_blank>http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2003/photorelease/q1/pr_030129h1.html</a> Hope this helps. And no, it didn't look that revolutionary. I suspect this pic might be the closest to the eventual thing th...
Jump to postWhat, the aircraft's just too damn big or you are?
Mike
"Isn't Aeroflot a part of Skyteam?"
I don't think it is just yet, though I thought it had already agreed to join.
Mike
I agree - 3-3-3 is awful. The only advantage that I can think of (and Boeing touted this when they introduced the 777) is that the aircraft can be busier before pax start having to sit next to strangers.
Maybe this is why they suggested 3-2-3? Hopefully the airlines will kill this one too.
Mike
I don't think it's just families that prefer 2-5-2 to 3-3-3. The 3-3-3 has twice as many 'double excuse-me' seats as the 2-5-2, and those that are two away from an aisle have just one exit route, meaning the same people have to be distrubed every time one leaves one's seat. Also, according to some c...
Jump to postI agree that it would be nice, but I don't think any airline will see that as important enough to lose 10% of the seats for. I would say they're more likely to be calculating whether they can change the 3-4-3 layout to 3-5-3. If an airline was willing to lose 10% of seats, the space gain would (imho...
Jump to postCan't see it. Why would they?
That extra aisle would cost them many seats, and mean more cabin crew were needed to distribute food etc.
Mike
Pure speculation of course, but I'm looking at a US major that has DC-10s that won't last for ever and has a fleet of A330s which would provide fleet commonality.
Mike
747 pride would still apply if it was one big ugly heap of metal - it would still have that magic imo. Sadly, one thing Boeing seem to be good at over the last few years is releasing designs that are then toned down and sometimes even vanish - how I would have loved to see the Sonic Cruiser fly. We'...
Jump to postWill people please realise that aircraft are not designed to please the spotters, they are designed to please the airlines. The latter, in turn, are a little more interested in the economics and the views of those who see the planes from inside, not from the observation decks or outside the perimete...
Jump to postIMHO, if <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> and US were to cease operations then Star would grieve over them briefly and then try to woo another US major (probably American). I don't think Star would collapse without a US domestic - there's a lot more of the world than the USA - but...
Jump to post<i><b>"* EADS and BAE Systems foresee a market for 3,100 A350 aircraft over 20 years.</b> If they trully believed that statement then why did Airbus 1) not start developing an airliner much sooner then Boeing's 7E7? 2) focus on the A380 (this airplane is trully an ego thing with Airbus...we must hav...
Jump to postUA777222, Surely the aircraft running over the metal strip is the direct cause of the accident, with the effect being that the tire disintegrated and a large part hit the wing etc. However, like many have said, Continental are currently witnesses in the investigation, not under prosecution. IMHO the...
Jump to postWhat would the A333 be like on some of the higher-density routes?
Mike
N328KE:
I suspect he's never set foot outside Ross County.
Mike
Relax Ozglobal, many (but by no means most) Americans are against anyone who isn't one of them. I don't expect its anything personal against the French - a local pastor here in Ohio told his flock that the UK was a pathetic little island with bad food, no moral values and yellow teeth that was etern...
Jump to postHi, Does anyone know if any airline still allows smoking on its Western Europe to North America routes. Not for me - it's a disgusting habit - but my father is hopelessly addicted and won't come over to see me here unless he can smoke on the longer flight. I'm a British ex-pat living in Ohio and wou...
Jump to postThis is an amazing discussion considering that no-one truly knows what the A350 will be.
Mike
PS:
"Same story for Iberia. They had a good B773ER offer but chose A346."
Has Boeing forgiven them for that yet?
I think I heard former go birds from easyJet a little while back. I'll see if I can find the source because I'm not 100% certain.
Mike
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"Does anybody know what airliner the A350 is to replace and to compete with?
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The North West DC9s and 10s of course, silly!
Mike
Anyone know what the UA registrations on those aircraft were?
Cheers
Mike
No, I'm neutral. What I was trying to say boils down to 'I can see how a deal like this could be attractive to both Airbus and UAL'.
Hope this helps.
It's also important though to remember that this is just a rumour.
Cheers
Mike
<i>" I understand you are pro-Airbus,"</i> No I'm not. I'm neutral and IMHO the 777 is a superior aircraft to the A330/340 series. Just trying to look at the facts without being clouded by the manufacturerdoes not make someone pro one or the other. Please don't say that I'm pro-Airbus because you th...
Jump to post<i>You are telling me that business travelers will more likely fly an A340 than a 747? Especially Japanese business travelers who would likely be the first to have to make the switch? </i> No, the business travelers don't care what a/f it is - they care about the standard of the service and the comf...
Jump to post<i>"GOD FORBID <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> to buy that Airbus long haul trash!!! GO BOEING!!!"</i> I'm sure such a high quality post as this will single handedly persuade United to steer well clear of Airbus <img border=0 src="/discussions/graphics/rolleyes.gif" ALT="Insane"...
Jump to postYou wouldn't have orange tails and seats that are specially designed with thinner backs to cram more in than the A319 was designed for, would you?
Mike
IMHO Indy could pick up a lot of nice, higher-yield traffic by expanding p to p at <acronym title="Columbus - Port Columbus International (CMH / KCMH), USA - Ohio">CMH</acronym>. This has to be one of the most poorly-served cities for its size on the continent, and has many of the characteristics th...
Jump to postOne of the reasons I enjoy flying with US airlines is that the flight and cabin crews are more fun than European ones (despite the location, I'm a Brit!). To me this is simply light hearted humour, and some people need to take a chill pill. One of my favourites was a United F/A who announced at the ...
Jump to post<i>If American Airlines buy a Airbus it is giving that money to Europe, If American Airlines buys a Boeing instead it is creating more jobs for Americans which brings our Econmy <acronym title="Bahamasair">UP</acronym></i> Surely by the same reasoning, European carriers should be buying Airbus. Whic...
Jump to post"Boeing takes a consevative approach to what they present to customers."
Like the sonic cruiser?
Mike
The attraction is those long hard fuselages. Just too bad they're full of airmen, not se(a)men.
Hope this helps.
Mike
Pretty well any route served by Ryanair.
Mike
You get full United miles, just like a United flight, if you are on a United codeshare ticket (if you have a United flight number, which you certainly will have if you book it through United). I believe you get a reduced mileage if this is not the case, but I'm not 100% certain. The bmi flights have...
Jump to post"Looking at that big ugly thing makes me want to fly on a BOEING 747 that much more! NEVER will I set foot on an airbus aircraft by choice."
How terrible for Airbus. All their aircraft will so much the poorer without your presence.
Mike
Shall we begin speculating if it will be 50 717s?
Nah, it'll be second hand DC9s from North West after they replace them with A319s in the year nod.
Mike
"Mr. O'Leary is very arrogant, and this is just plain idiotic. I wonder how the Belgians will respond.
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Something along the lines of 'Va te faire foutre' if they've any sense.
Mike
Basically the same as he tells his customers.
Odious little oik.
Mike
OK guys, thanks very much for the detailed answers and explanations. That's been a big help.
Cheers
Mike
Further to the above, they've recently swapped most of the A320s on the route for A321s, so it can't be doing badly at all.
Mike