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by Spacepope
Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 995
Views: 115905

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

According to Skyliner SE-RLC, LN 27, which has been at TPA for several months is back to N742AX. Will we be seeing this in the ABX Amazon rotation soon or is it headed over to Asia?

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by Spacepope
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 995
Views: 115905

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Within the freight world in general (not just Amazon Air, not just air freight) the issue of finding backhaul traffic is huge. Many ships, trucks, aircraft operate the return leg either completely or mostly empty. So much so that at least in trucking there’s a term for it: deadheading. I wonder if ...

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by Spacepope
Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Freighter conversion, how much will the market grow?
Replies: 47
Views: 4927

Re: Freighter conversion, how much will the market grow?

The moment I heard that Delta Airlines was grounding/retiring their entire 777 fleet, I said to myself, the MD-11's days at UPS in Louisville are now numbered... I was working on the Louisville UPS ramp for an aircraft service company way back when Delta's DC-8-71's were being P-to-F converted and ...

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by Spacepope
Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Freighter conversion, how much will the market grow?
Replies: 47
Views: 4927

Re: Freighter conversion, how much will the market grow?

The time to load an auxiliary freighter, in the A340 thread, was identified for the A346 as 4 hours and 4 hours to unload. That is only viable during this crisis. Lightsaber LD3 must fit on pax desk easily? Shoehorn it through the pax door and find a way to strap it down without exceeding loading l...

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by Spacepope
Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any progress on the Russian Chinese jet CRAIC CR929?
Replies: 24
Views: 5538

Re: Any progress on the Russian Chinese jet CRAIC CR929?

I just found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRAIC_CR929 Has there any progress on the Russian & Chinese jet CRAIC CR929? Is it still in the planning stages? Or this just a dream ala IL-96 and TU-204 which weren't successful!? Il-96 and Tu-204 were not a dream, they were designed and first ...

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by Spacepope
Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS
Replies: 263
Views: 50579

Re: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS

Looking at the limit of Validity, one sees a 767F is good for 150,000 FH and 60,000 FC, while pax is good for 75,000 FC. Due to low cycles, I do not think cycles matter as so few vs. allowed validity as 40k+ cycles is more than enough for a freighter and some. Does anyone have a method to look up c...

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by Spacepope
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DHL Network & Fleet Thread - 2020
Replies: 52
Views: 6731

Re: DHL Network & Fleet Thread - 2020

B-LDM and B-LDN is ex-JAL -622R previously served in Europe before, -LDM has left and -LDN is still in Hong Kong a couple of weeks ago, they have been quite busy lately and have 2 banks now, flying also daytime. When DHL sold its share on Air Hong Kong, it also bought the 8 -605F bought brand new b...

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by Spacepope
Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Just what made the DC-8 Super 73 freighter so popular?
Replies: 32
Views: 6888

Re: Just what made the DC-8 Super 73 freighter so popular?

We know the DOD is not fiscal smart at times, but why buy a whole 707 just for pylons? Why not call Boeing and see what they could come up with? I’m sure Boeing could have easily come up with something, but it would be pricey, like any direct from OEM part. It wasn’t just pylons that the DOD was in...

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by Spacepope
Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Freighter conversion, how much will the market grow?
Replies: 47
Views: 4927

Re: Freighter conversion, how much will the market grow?

To answer the original question on how much will the freight conversion market grow. Realistically, not much, if any long term. While there is currently a temporary surge need for airfreight due to Covid-19; that will normalize again - especially once they get caught up enough on masks and other co...

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by Spacepope
Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 307
Views: 54353

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

If not for grandfathering, Boeing would have bitten the financial bullet and raised the gear so that the engines could be installed to mitigate the need for MCAS. As the grandfathering effectively lowered the development cost, they chose that option. Look at the 777X, they bite that bullet and spen...

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by Spacepope
Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: European Aviation plans to have a fleet of A340 cargo
Replies: 36
Views: 6354

Re: European Aviation plans to have a fleet of A340 cargo

European Aviation bought up a lot of -600s (and some -500s) preCovid, with the idea of leasing them out. Covid has obviously killed that market though, and with many airlines retiring their remaining A346s the scrap value of the planes is rapidly decreasing too. Hence now this cargo idea, because t...

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by Spacepope
Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 995
Views: 115905

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

If Atlas can keep staffing its 767s, presumably it will keep the Amazon flying that it has, but I don't see any reason for Atlas to pick up more at the moment. [It would make a certain amount of sense that if Amazon anticipated putting any of the 12 at Atlas, they would let Atlas handle the leasing...

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by Spacepope
Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FedEx and it’s airborne ‘sweep’ aircraft
Replies: 37
Views: 11054

Re: FedEx and it’s airborne ‘sweep’ aircraft

One of these sweep flights has been an A300 flying DEN-MEM. Partial load in DEN, then instead of straight off east to MEM, it usually starts due South to ABQ before headed east. Seen it divert to land and pick up cargo at ABQ, LBB and Dallas, with OKC in its reach. Adds another hour or so onto an ex...

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by Spacepope
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ameriflight Future Fleet?
Replies: 25
Views: 2059

Re: Ameriflight Future Fleet?

The Ce208 Caravan might be an option when they get cheap enough second hand to replace the 99s. However there's the likes of Alpine, Bemidji and Freight Runners in this market too. All have pretty low utilisation so it maybe that a replacement for the hundred or so 99s in this market is not require...

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by Spacepope
Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ameriflight Future Fleet?
Replies: 25
Views: 2059

Re: Ameriflight Future Fleet?

Cargo PC-12's could replace the metro. They're still converting B1900s so there's already an in-house solution to the Metro issue. They're probably going to have more issues with Beech 99 and fatigue issues, and they tend to write off an aircraft a year but with current utilization their turbine fl...

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by Spacepope
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CargoJet - How are they doing during the Pandemic?
Replies: 18
Views: 3087

Re: CargoJet - How are they doing during the Pandemic?

What do they keep bringing to LHR every day? As mentioned in the 2nd post above, they fly to LHR for DHL so I guess it's small packages a la DHL. I'm wondering if CargoJet could be in the running for a few new-build 767F's ? Doubtful on new builds. They are currently or just completed conversion on...

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by Spacepope
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 995
Views: 115905

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

FWAERJ: I would say, "Never say never." DiamondFlyer correctly lays out the usual standards, but Amazon has made some interesting calls along the way... The airport location could just be because it has excellent road access, or it could be something else. I’d bet against it for at least ...

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by Spacepope
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:40 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: FX questions
Replies: 4
Views: 927

Re: FX questions

Regarding COVID, I have some questions about Fedex. A300- Will retirement speed up/slow down? I love the A300, but I think it is repetitive bcz of the already huge amount of 757s/767s in the fleet. However, COVID meant a short increase in cargo flights A310- dead in a hole 737- What is the anomaly ...

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by Spacepope
Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 21 Air 747-400F N251KW at MZJ (New 747 Operator)
Replies: 3
Views: 1723

Re: 21 Air 747-400F N251KW at MZJ (New 747 Operator)

Interesting choice witht he RR engines, but with 21's ties to Dynamic/Eastern (they being the only RR 767 operator out there anymore) I guess it makes sense. There may be a glut of green time engines hitting the market soon.

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by Spacepope
Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is 10 Tanker Air Carrier going to add more DC-10s?
Replies: 23
Views: 4299

Re: Is 10 Tanker Air Carrier going to add more DC-10s?

FX has several late DC-10s that are in the same ball park as the ones 10 Tanker has. I wonder if they’ve inquired about them. They’re converted to MD-10 cockpit but still same engines and airframe There are 4 DC-10 tankers in service, with if I remember right an additional 3 airframes stored that c...

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by Spacepope
Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why doesn't the AN225 have passenger service?
Replies: 46
Views: 9023

Re: Why doesn't the AN225 have passenger service?

glideslope wrote:
Palletized seating tends to be extremely clastrphobic.


So instead make a giant plexiglass passenger pod and mount it on the dorsal pylons! It would be like flying on a giant 6 engined wonkavator.

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by Spacepope
Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is 10 Tanker Air Carrier going to add more DC-10s?
Replies: 23
Views: 4299

Re: Is 10 Tanker Air Carrier going to add more DC-10s?

Given that the last DC10 flew in 1988, are there many left that have enough hours left to make it workwhile. AFAIK, the KC10's are not currently available. FX has several late DC-10s that are in the same ball park as the ones 10 Tanker has. I wonder if they’ve inquired about them. They’re converted...

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by Spacepope
Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is 10 Tanker Air Carrier going to add more DC-10s?
Replies: 23
Views: 4299

Re: Is 10 Tanker Air Carrier going to add more DC-10s?

That is strictly up to the US Gov/US Forest Service. No they can convert as many as they can afford. Just monitor the airport at Oscoda, the conversions were done there. And how much Bussiness they can attract outside of the USA. The Aussies are more than happy to contract heavy tankers. Same with ...

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by Spacepope
Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is 10 Tanker Air Carrier going to add more DC-10s?
Replies: 23
Views: 4299

Re: Is 10 Tanker Air Carrier going to add more DC-10s?

n7371f wrote:
That is strictly up to the US Gov/US Forest Service.

No they can convert as many as they can afford.

Just monitor the airport at Oscoda, the conversions were done there.

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by Spacepope
Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Feasibility of a 737-900ER freighter
Replies: 35
Views: 6325

Re: Feasibility of a 737-900ER freighter

The existing 737-800 freighter conversion programs are focused on the right frame to convert in the 737 larger models. There is no advantage that a 737-900 really has over the 737-800, even if there was a lot more feedstock. Have a great day, Well, except for the increase in volume in the -900. I d...

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by Spacepope
Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Feasibility of a 737-900ER freighter
Replies: 35
Views: 6325

Re: Feasibility of a 737-900ER freighter

The existing 737-800 freighter conversion programs are focused on the right frame to convert in the 737 larger models. There is no advantage that a 737-900 really has over the 737-800, even if there was a lot more feedstock. Have a great day, Well, except for the increase in volume in the -900. Loo...

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by Spacepope
Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020
Replies: 106
Views: 24396

Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

A friendly reminder: this thread is about 777 retirements and scrappings, not about new planes or young ones changing hands. There is another topic dealing with that. I don't see the issue. Whenever a 10+ widebody leaves the fleet of its original operator you can't always be sure if it's going into...

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by Spacepope
Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS
Replies: 263
Views: 50579

Re: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS

Looking at the limit of Validity, one sees a 767F is good for 150,000 FH and 60,000 FC, while pax is good for 75,000 FC. Due to low cycles, I do not think cycles matter as so few vs. allowed validity as 40k+ cycles is more than enough for a freighter and some. Does anyone have a method to look up c...

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by Spacepope
Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 335
Views: 71815

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Boeing 747 -422 26880 984 F-HSUN Corsair International ferried 09jun20 ORY-EGBP,for part-out & scrap ex F-WSUN https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=3 They say part and scrap for almost everything including the Qantas 744ER which is not the case. Perhaps, however there's ...

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by Spacepope
Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS
Replies: 263
Views: 50579

Re: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS

Major current conversion houses: https://cargofacts.com/allposts/equipment/conversions/whos-who-in-freighter-conversions-part-ii-the-major-conversion-houses/ Aeronautical Engineering, only dies 737-800 (no Boeing help) Bedek (IAI): 737 (many varieties,), 767-300ER, and now 777. Became big off 767-2...

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by Spacepope
Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS
Replies: 263
Views: 50579

Re: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS

Major current conversion houses: https://cargofacts.com/allposts/equipment/conversions/whos-who-in-freighter-conversions-part-ii-the-major-conversion-houses/ Aeronautical Engineering, only dies 737-800 (no Boeing help) Bedek (IAI): 737 (many varieties,), 767-300ER, and now 777. Became big off 767-2...

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by Spacepope
Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: FedEx to reactivate parked aircraft
Replies: 182
Views: 60651

Re: FedEx to park 35 planes on weaker demand

According to https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=4 MD-10-10 SN 17 has been sent to VCV for scrapping. N368FE totals of 90150 hours and 38811 cycles as of last June. That's a LOT of cycles. Wow. While the DC-10 is certified for 60,000 FC and 160,000 FH, that is one worn bird...

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by Spacepope
Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: FedEx to reactivate parked aircraft
Replies: 182
Views: 60651

Re: Updated: FedEx to reactivate parked aircraft

https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=4

N394FE, LN 207. Close to 98,000 hours and 38,000 cycles on her.
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A quick update. Skyliner reports another MD-10-10 headed to retirement. https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=4

N394FE, LN 207. Close to 98,000 hours and 38,000 cycles on her.

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by Spacepope
Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS
Replies: 263
Views: 50579

Re: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS

In 2002, Boeing projected the conversion price of a 747-400BCF would be around $25 million (itself a reduction of $10 million from earlier projections). In 2018, CAPA noted 747-400 conversion prices from both Boeing and IAI remained "significant" and this was dampening conversion demand, ...

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by Spacepope
Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SoCal Boneyard Storage and Activity Thread
Replies: 690
Views: 84775

Re: SoCal Boneyard Storage and Activity Thread

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CUL ... /KMHV/KMHV


Tanker 137 was activated on June 1 on a CWN contract with the Forest Service.
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VCVSpotter wrote:
Looks like Coulson 737-300 N137CG had a short test hop MHV-MHV today (June 3).

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CUL ... /KMHV/KMHV


Tanker 137 was activated on June 1 on a CWN contract with the Forest Service.

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by Spacepope
Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 995
Views: 115905

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Amazon is adding another dozen 767-300s, to be leased from ATSG. https://press.aboutamazon.com/news-releases/news-release-details/amazon-air-expands-aircraft-fleet I'm actually a little confused by the press release, because there were 5 already to be delivered this year. To say that one of the new...

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by Spacepope
Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 995
Views: 115905

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Also, I was wondering, is anyone here still getting Amazon shipments from smaller shipping companies such as OnTrac or LaserShip? I haven't gotten an Amazon shipment via OnTrac in over a year now. I know in the West Valley in the Phoenix area at one point they were the #2 carrier behind AMZL; here ...

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by Spacepope
Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:52 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: P-8 Poseidon, fighter escorts needed?
Replies: 38
Views: 3626

Re: P-8 Poseidon, fighter escorts needed?

kc135topboom wrote:
The Chinese and the Russians learned nothing from the PLAAF J-8-IIM collision with a USN EP-3E back in 2001.


Nah, that P-3 was on the ground for a while in China. I'm sure they learned plenty.

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by Spacepope
Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:46 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: P-8 Poseidon, fighter escorts needed?
Replies: 38
Views: 3626

Re: P-8 Poseidon, fighter escorts needed?

Should the Russians send fighter escorts along with their reconnaissance aircraft that the US intercept? https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2020/03/14/four-russian-reconnaissance-aircraft-intercepted-while-spying-on-us-icex-submarine-exercise-again/ Sure, go for it! I'm certain they have ple...

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by Spacepope
Thu May 28, 2020 11:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 995
Views: 115905

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

https://twitter.com/WatcherCtp/status/1 ... 1546407937
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Someone got it transiting the Bay area.

Looks all white.

https://twitter.com/WatcherCtp/status/1 ... 1546407937

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by Spacepope
Tue May 26, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 995
Views: 115905

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

I know of a Compass Air Captain going over to Atlas to fly 747. He flew EMB 170/175. Talk about a jump in size. I agree no one knows what Amazon is going to do. I do know that the SY planes are going out early, which I'm sure Amazon likes. It is SOP with SY if they are loaded with pax and ready to ...

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by Spacepope
Tue May 26, 2020 12:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 995
Views: 115905

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

From Aviator Daily News 25MAY2020......Amazon Air (US) fleet will grow its Prime Air fleet to about 200 planes — up from 42 now — in the next seven or eight years, according to a report. Will Amazon go for new builds, are there enough planes suitable for conversion if they want so many? And who wil...

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by Spacepope
Sat May 23, 2020 5:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cessna SkyCourier Development and Testing Thread
Replies: 99
Views: 15074

Re: Cessna SkyCourier Development and Testing Thread

At the time Fedex launched the Skycourier, they also launched the ATR72-600F. For that aircraft the Cargo door is front of the wing. For the Skycourier, a kind of tail stand will probably be required. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MtgMiZZXudg/Wh1_SECsFxI/AAAAAAAAjFs/9y49nJTRPm4DSV4fXdpG-eX_fIp2GGcyQCE...

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by Spacepope
Fri May 22, 2020 6:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 995
Views: 115905

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

So 443AZ, the next 767-300 to be dry-leased to Amazon and operated by ATI, should be returning from paint at GUS (painting contractor = Dean Baldwin) this afternoon. This aircraft has been operating for ATI as N360CM since October 2019. It started pre-conversion as N7375A, delivered to American in ...

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by Spacepope
Tue May 19, 2020 11:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cessna SkyCourier Development and Testing Thread
Replies: 99
Views: 15074

Re: Cessna SkyCourier Development and Testing Thread

It's really smart for them to accommodate LD3 in freighter configurations. LD3-45 should have been considered too. Given the LD3-45 footprint is slightly smaller than LD3, they’ll definitely fit. The securement system may need tweaked or certified for them but that should be easy to do if some cust...

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by Spacepope
Tue May 19, 2020 11:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 995
Views: 115905

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Harvestman: Yeah there was a total delay of about 10 months in getting the STC; originally planned for July-ish 2019. Don't know if it had to do with the rigid barrier issue on other IAI 737s, which appears to have been resolved by an AD. But now that there is officially a 737-800BDSF, it's a fair ...

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by Spacepope
Tue May 19, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 995
Views: 115905

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

MO11 wrote:
N798AX was "sold" to AMES yesterday.


RIP?

In 2018 she had over 49,000 cycles.(but only about 68,000 hours)

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