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Re: Sale of 15 Dutch F-16 for 76m Euro

I understand it all from an operational perspective and I wasn't against replacing the old birds, just from a communication perspective this isn't a good thing. They just should have been honest and explain this to the Dutch taxpayer and not framing it like they did. it will be another 10 years bef...

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RE: 1st A400M Operational Mission

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Aesma" class="quote" target="_blank">Aesma</a> (<a href="#7" class="quote">Reply 7</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> I believe French inte...

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RE: 'New' Croatian Mig 21s

wow, that's one nice looking livery!

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RE: Belgian F-16 Replacement RFI To Be Issued Soon

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/fbwless" class="quote" target="_blank">fbwless</a> (<a href="#44" class="quote">Reply 44</a>):<br/><i>Good argument! But it is necessary to have...

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RE: Belgian F-16 Replacement RFI To Be Issued Soon

Even though a Gripen C/D is less capable than our current F-16AM and the Gripen E/F might get close to what we already do with our 25 year old fighters, you still got to take your hat off to SAAB and Sweden that with a population the size of London, they manage to sustain an industrial base that can...

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RE: Belgian F-16 Replacement RFI To Be Issued Soon

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/ThePointblank" class="quote" target="_blank">ThePointblank</a> (<a href="#8" class="quote">Reply 8</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> that'...

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RE: Dutch F-35s Go Into Storage

being somewhat familiar with how serious other manufacturers took our RFI in 2001 (representatives of Eurofighter falling asleep during a meeting with the defence committee of parliament! Dassault stating: development is done but you are welcome to buy) I hardly find those claims impressive. On anot...

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RE: Dutch F-35s Go Into Storage

I do hope they would buy a second batch (or the world should suddenly become much more peaceful) Indeed the operating costs are still unknown. There are first estimates that they would be slightly more than an F-16 if you take into account all external pods it carries that F-35 had internally. Well,...

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RE: Dutch F-35s Go Into Storage

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Oroka" class="quote" target="_blank">Oroka</a> (<a href="#63" class="quote">Reply 63</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> wow, I must have st...

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RE: Dutch F-35s Go Into Storage

Oroka, Patrolling the country is not the sizing factor for our air force needs. Being an active member of NATO with capabilities and enough resources to contribute to international missions is. Perhaps you are somewhat inward oriented? Netherlands is an exporting economy with business interests all ...

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RE: Dutch F-35s Go Into Storage

Says the latest publicized sales prices of Rafale (India campaign) and Eurofighter (Saudi) compared to what the Netherlands paid for the first 2 LRIP test aircraft.

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RE: Dutch F-35s Go Into Storage

Wow, some heavy misconception on the RNLAF capabilities, mission and needs in this thread. Unlike Germany, the Netherlands has always flown with the most modern equipment available. Those who think Germany is one of Europe's Air Forces that need/want first day of the war capabilities are quite unawa...

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RE: Rnlaf F-35A Maiden Flight At NFW (video)

Nice! I think that is the first footage I see of any of the two first F35A for RNLAF.

Do you know where to find the pictures the other guys were shooting?

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RE: What Killed The F-20 Tigershark?

Didn't we have this discussion like a million times already?

I even remember posting a graph once that compared F-20 with F-16 but I can't find it anymore...

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RE: The Netherlands Has Decided To Go For JSF F35

I saw that... We now have a coalition of VVD (proponent) with PvdA (original backer of program, but opponent for populistic reasons lately. This is a typical outcome of Dutch "Polder"-thinking. PvdA has made very bold claims never allowing the purchase of a single JSF if it came to power, while the ...

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Did The Feb. 15 Meteorite Course....

I think they said they intercepted a chunck that had come off, not the main thing itself

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Did The Feb. 15 Meteorite Course....

Dutch media were talking about the meteorite entering at 51000 km an hour, about 14,1 km/s

after that it would slow down.

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RE: Status Of Fokker NG

I guess everyone currently flying Fokker would be genuinly interested. Now that doesn't mean that they're putting any money in it either. What this project needs is big financial backing. That could be trough a launching customer (but who will take that risk?) or someone who wants to start an aircra...

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Did The Feb. 15 Meteorite Course....

Russian media is suggesting a SAM battery intercepted a piece at 20 km altitude. <a href="http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_02_15/Urals-meteorite-allegedly-intercepted-by-Russia-s-air-defense/" target="_blank">http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_02_15/Ur...tercepted-by-Russia-s-air-defense/</a> I would reckon a m...

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RE: CroAF May Buy Used MiG-21s

How are talks going with Slovenia to make a joined effort in air policing and <acronym title="Johannesburg - Rand (Germiston) (QRA / FAGM), South Africa">QRA</acronym>? I believe they have a basic pilot training program with their <acronym title="Air Fiji and Continental Airways (Russian Federation)...

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RE: Iran Claims To Have Shot Down US Drone ( RQ10 )

I guess that is a very impressive mock-up which they built in the mean time while showing pictures of the Dassault Neuron. Is it me or does that look like unpainted composite?

If this is supposed to be a high altitude UAV, I would suspect a grey colour...

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RE: Gagarin - 50 Years On

A nice summary of this great achievement by a hero of humanity.

On Tuesday, I will make sure to salute Gagarin and Korolev with a glass of vodka.

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RE: Croatian AF To Possibly Stick With The MiG-21?

I really think those bisons ought to be a good interim solution. As with many temporary solutions, they later may become permanent.

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RE: Eurofighter Typhoon : 'Even Worse Than We Thought'

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/autothrust" class="quote" target="_blank">autothrust</a> (<a href="#14" class="quote">Reply 14</a>):<br/><i>Do you mean the very doubtful fight ...

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RE: Eurofighter Typhoon : 'Even Worse Than We Thought'

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/autothrust" class="quote" target="_blank">autothrust</a> (<a href="#11" class="quote">Reply 11</a>):<br/><i>The F-16,F-18,F-15, Gripen, Mirage e...

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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

a great relief! however, here some audio recordings which suggest the lynx had made several pick-ups before they were caught: <a href="http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/1389141/6843b7c1/lynx_audio.html" target="_blank">http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/1389141/6843b7c1/lynx_audio.html</a> Maltese ATC is...

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RE: Possible J-10 Sale To Serbia?

for starters, my Macbook Pro and iPhone were made in China (and designed in California, hahahaha)

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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Eventhough I now think my theory is probably not what has happened, making it public will not help one bit (more so since the Libyian delegation at the UN has already changed sides). Dutch diplomacy is silent diplomacy. But I have to agree, it now really seems someone in the Dutch government or MoD ...

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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Here is my theory: -The Dutch government has had quite close diplomatic ties with Libya since the Afriqiyah crash in Tripoli last year (where most passengers who died where Dutch nationals). -The Royal Netherlands Air Force has airlifted out Dutch nationals with a KDC-10 and C-130 at at least two oc...

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RE: Croatian AF To Possibly Stick With The MiG-21?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/TripleDelta" class="quote" target="_blank">TripleDelta</a> (<a href="#31" class="quote">Reply 31</a>):<br/><i>Indeed, as I had mentioned myself,...

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RE: Croatian AF To Possibly Stick With The MiG-21?

I guess I can't agree more that the Bison will do what the CroAF needs and more! Perhaps some interesting follow up contacts with India will come out of it. Indeed, that's where the future bussiness will take place anyway, so why not look to the farther East. BTW, concerning the armored vehicles to ...

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RE: Croatian AF To Possibly Stick With The MiG-21?

The bison is a very potent little fighter. I believe the Indian Air Force has developed a jammer into it, which makes it a threat even to 4th generation fighters. A no-nonsense approach to get a familiar (but more capable) aircraft into the Croatian Air Force for a minimum cost really sounds like a ...

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RE: Croatia/Slovenia Joint Venture Fighter Purchase

If you put it that way, I'm definitely in favour of doing a proper cost/benefit analysis. However I agree with Turbolet as well; Sweden has many inaccesible area's and operates the Gripen. BTW, in emergencies, any jet could land on the highway. What I read about the different offers, the Swedish off...

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RE: Croatia/Slovenia Joint Venture Fighter Purchase

It makes sense several smaller NATO countries in the same region join forces to fulfill their NATO obligation in air policing. Nevertheless I believe Croatia's priorities lie elswhere (like the Slovenians finally finishing the highways all the way to the Croatian border...)

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RE: Swiss AF Looks At F-5 Replacements

well... the maintenance costs are probably high because the supplier of spares charges them a lot. This is nothing new.

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RE: Airbus A400M First Flight & Future Prospects

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RE: First Locally Made JF-17 Unveiled!

I wonder what common language they use while working together during development?

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RE: Airbus A400M First Flight & Future Prospects

I will personally attest that the French are rookies in good service when it comes to insurance and internet...

But then they share an antique banking system with the US...

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RE: 2009 KC-X Tanker Part II

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RE: 2009 KC-X Tanker Part II

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RE: Airbus A400M First Flight & Future Prospects

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RE: 2009 KC-X Tanker Part II

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RE: 2009 KC-X Tanker Part II

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RE: Airbus A400M First Flight & Future Prospects

The Netherlands are not taking part in the A400M. They recently acquired several refurbished C-130s and took a stake in the newly acquired 3 C-17's which they share with other NATO countries.

The C-130s currently under refurbishement by Marshal Aerospace are very late and costs are rising BTW

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RE: Swiss AF Looks At F-5 Replacements

the reason they didn't go with the F-16 the first time was they thought it would not be in production 30 years from then (or at least spare parts). This time that argument will certainly hold.

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RE: Jet Fighters With Most Kills

I guess it's going to be the F-86

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RE: 17 G4 Super Galebs To Croatia?

there is a company in Bosnia (in the Serbian part) that still maintains and refurbishes this engine.

The main 'industrial' base to support this aircraft exists, but in the Serbian part of Bosnia and in Serbia. This could be a major show-stopper.

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RE: France, Germany Lean Towards Mi-26T For HTH

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RE: France, Germany Lean Towards Mi-26T For HTH

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RE: F-4d Pilot Meets Mig Pilot He Shot Down.

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