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by chumley
Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 442
Views: 56280

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020

I meant to look this up last week, but forgot. On Thursday 2/27, I saw a Qatar plane take off to the east over Tempe at around 3:30pm. Now that I'm thinking about it, too many days have passed for it to be showing up in FlightRadar. Anybody have info on it? In town for the Arabian Horse Show. Makes...

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by chumley
Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 442
Views: 56280

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020

I meant to look this up last week, but forgot. On Thursday 2/27, I saw a Qatar plane take off to the east over Tempe at around 3:30pm. Now that I'm thinking about it, too many days have passed for it to be showing up in FlightRadar. Anybody have info on it?

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by chumley
Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 297494

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

As a reminder, these primary news sources independently verify something like this before running with it. In theory that's true. But as a reminder, these primary news sources may also independently verify something like this by all talking to the same person(s) at different times. It's not like CB...

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by chumley
Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: History of AA intercontinental flying at ORD
Replies: 40
Views: 4194

Re: History of AA intercontinental flying at ORD

In the 1990 movie, Home Alone, the McCallister family flew from Chicago to Paris on AA DC-10. Does that count? ;)

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by chumley
Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: America flight 1200 heading back to PHX.
Replies: 21
Views: 6366

Re: America flight 1200 heading back to PHX.

When it turned around it maintained altitude and appeared to enter the PHX arrival pattern normally. The oddity was that on the return it reduced ground speed by about 25% (according to FlightAware).

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by chumley
Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1124
Views: 104990

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Does anybody remember the public shower in T2? I don't recall when it went away exactly, but it was adjacent to where the men's room is now at the top of the ramp between check-in/baggage claim and the main hall/security. It was a coin-operated door, and I believe was 50¢ to access the shower room. ...

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by chumley
Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1124
Views: 104990

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

I'm guessing no one here has ever parked at east economy and taken the Skytrain in? Takes about 30 seconds. Or if I'm picking up, I'd rather avoid the airport entirely and have them ride the Skytrain to the 44th street station and pick them up there. While Sky Train is convenient, you might have to...

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by chumley
Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United denies boarding to an Emotional Support Peacock
Replies: 112
Views: 23553

Re: United denies boarding to an Emotional Support Peacock

The reason this is a uniquely American "problem" and not global is a federal law in the United States called the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA). And while it is full of good intentions, one provision that allows for misuse is the prohibition under the law of questioning one's claime...

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by chumley
Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The ME3 and PHX
Replies: 51
Views: 5339

Re: The ME3 and PHX

SLCUT2777 wrote:
PHX, DEN & SLC are all MST/MDT communities

PHX is always MST as it does not observe daylight savings. In the summer, PHX's MST is the same as LAX's PDT.

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by chumley
Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When will Norwegian come into DFW and IAH?
Replies: 175
Views: 15221

Re: When will Norwegian come into DFW and IAH?

SFOA380 wrote:
Also better to judge size by CSA rather than MSA because it better speaks to the catchment area.

I'm not sure everybody would agree with this opinion.
Especially those from PHX, TPA, SAN, SAT and AUS among others.

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by chumley
Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant enters hotel business - to build Florida resort
Replies: 44
Views: 5210

Re: Allegiant enters hotel business - to build Florida resort

Weird. Priceline (Priceline, Kayak, Booking.com) and Expedia (Expedia, Orbitz, Trivago, Travelocity, Hotwire) manage to sell plenty of flights and rooms in Florida without owning a resort, AFAIK. Different business models. There's room for everybody to make a profit here. The cost of a flight and a...

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by chumley
Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA cancels CRJ flights from PHX due to extreme heat
Replies: 29
Views: 9816

AA cancels CRJ flights from PHX due to extreme heat

According to a statement from American Airlines, the American Eagle regional flights use the Bombardier CRJ aircraft, which has a maximum operating temperature of 118 degrees. Tuesday's forecast for Phoenix includes a high of 120 degrees, and the flights that are affected were to take off between 3...

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by chumley
Tue May 02, 2017 10:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Which airports in the US operate 24h?
Replies: 46
Views: 11757

Re: Which airports in the US operate 24h?

As noted previously, PHX is open 24hrs/day. Though I've been there for some of the after-midnight redeyes and it's a ghost town. But T4 at least keeps one security checkpoint open all night, and all three terminals maintain at least one place to eat 24hrs. Food and beverages are available for sale 2...

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by chumley
Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Terrorist attack at IST
Replies: 118
Views: 17808

Re: Terrorist attack at IST

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/explo ... ed-n600561
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This NBC News article states that "There were no U.S. carriers flying directly into Turkey"

Is that true? I would think IST would get service from at least one of the big 3.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/explo ... ed-n600561

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by chumley
Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:54 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Pinal Air Park Open House
Replies: 0
Views: 3378

Pinal Air Park Open House

The Arizona Republic is hosting 4 separate open houses at the Pinal Air Park as part of an Instagram meet.

Space is extremely limited for this opportunity to photograph inside the air park. Arizona spotters take note!

Information on Instagram here
https://instagram.com/azcentral/

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by chumley
Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Busiest Airports In The World, March 2014
Replies: 42
Views: 18808

RE: Busiest Airports In The World, March 2014

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/flymco" class="quote" target="_blank">flymco</a> (<a href="#12" class="quote">Reply 12</a>):<br/><i> Quoting Burchfiel (Thread starter): 30 ORLA...

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by chumley
Thu May 01, 2014 3:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Grand Canyon Crash Site Now A National Memorial
Replies: 7
Views: 3886

RE: Grand Canyon Crash Site Now A National Memorial

The Grand Canyon Pioneer Cemetery is located adjacent to the Shrine of the Ages on the south rim. It's a regular shuttle stop and on all the tourist maps. While the cemetery primarily features the graves of historic canyon explorers and residents, there is also a Memorial to victims of the plane cra...

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by chumley
Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 35
Replies: 285
Views: 55961

RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 35

I apologize if this has been asked before, but have <acronym title="Malaysia Airlines">MH</acronym> or <acronym title="Kuala Lumpur - International (Sepang) (KUL / WMKK), Malaysia">KUL</acronym> officials provided definite information as to the amount of fuel loaded prior to the flight? It seems tha...

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by chumley
Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Extreme Weather Disruption For US East Coast
Replies: 104
Views: 21058

RE: Extreme Weather Disruption For US East Coast

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/flypijets" class="quote" target="_blank">flypijets</a> (<a href="#6" class="quote">Reply 6</a>):<br/><i> Quoting phlwok (Reply 3): Thresholds fo...

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by chumley
Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lax Evacuated - Breaking News
Replies: 134
Views: 31202

RE: Lax Evacuated - Breaking News

On FlightAware it looks like JetBlue is flying two aircraft from <acronym title="Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX), USA - California">LAX</acronym> to <acronym title="Long Beach - Daugherty Field (LGB / KLGB), USA - California">LGB</acronym>. I assume these are empty to reposition them to an ...

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by chumley
Fri May 17, 2013 6:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Drinking Age On International Flights?
Replies: 48
Views: 33795

RE: Drinking Age On International Flights?

It is important to note that the United States of America, as a country, does NOT have an age restriction on the sale of liquor. Liquor laws are defined by the states. As an earlier post mentioned, the airline's ability to serve liquor on it's flights is permitted by a state-issued license. I don't ...

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by chumley
Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Czech Trucking Company Using Japan Airlines Logo?
Replies: 16
Views: 11007

RE: Czech Trucking Company Using Japan Airlines Logo?

Trademarks are an interesting study in Law. Large companies such as airlines can usually protect their brand from other similar marks, but not always. Especially when the trademarks are in two entirely different industries. For instance, if there was an airline named Apple, the computer company may ...

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by chumley
Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Noaa : Monster Storm Heading To East Coast
Replies: 230
Views: 35108

RE: Noaa : Monster Storm Heading To East Coast

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Gonzalo" class="quote" target="_blank">Gonzalo</a> (<a href="#35" class="quote">Reply 35</a>):<br/><i>Just to clarify, the so called "Frankestor...

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by chumley
Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair In Trouble In Norway
Replies: 19
Views: 14803

RE: Ryanair In Trouble In Norway

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/vfw614" class="quote" target="_blank">vfw614</a> (<a href="#2" class="quote">Reply 2</a>):<br/><i>Isn't the question of what law is applicable t...

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by chumley
Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A319 Or A320 Flew Into Luton Today...?
Replies: 28
Views: 12672

RE: Delta A319 Or A320 Flew Into Luton Today...?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Viscount724" class="quote" target="_blank">Viscount724</a> (<a href="#24" class="quote">Reply 24</a>):<br/><i>Why not?</i></font></td></tr></tab...

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by chumley
Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A319 Or A320 Flew Into Luton Today...?
Replies: 28
Views: 12672

RE: Delta A319 Or A320 Flew Into Luton Today...?

The aircraft configuration in this photo <table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/United1" class="quote" target="_blank">United1</a> (<a href="#8" class="quote">Reply 8</a>):<br/><i> <a...

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by chumley
Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 1
Replies: 278
Views: 16307

Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 1

Random <acronym title="Phoenix - Sky Harbor International (PHX / KPHX), USA - Arizona">PHX</acronym> question that has always bothered me. Does anybody know the purpose of <acronym title="Transeast Airlines (Latvia)">T4</acronym> having 2 concourses for each letter, rather than each concourse having...

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by chumley
Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: European Heavies At LHR During The Olympics
Replies: 20
Views: 15465

RE: European Heavies At LHR During The Olympics

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/ZuluAlpha" class="quote" target="_blank">ZuluAlpha</a> (<a href="#10" class="quote">Reply 10</a>):<br/><i>I know the Australian Olympic team are...

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by chumley
Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DFW Tornado Warning - 4/3/12
Replies: 97
Views: 17308

RE: DFW Tornado Warning - 4/3/12

Media reports that AA has grounded flights at DFW

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by chumley
Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Huge Solar Eruption To Re-route Polar Flights
Replies: 18
Views: 14036

Huge Solar Eruption To Re-route Polar Flights

I was just reading this article about the largest solar eruption since 2005 and have two questions. <a href="http://www.space.com/14319-huge-solar-eruption-sparks-radiation-storm.html" target="_blank">http://www.space.com/14319-huge-sola...uption-sparks-radiation-storm.html</a> The article states th...

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by chumley
Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QF32 Hits Severe Turbulence On 1/8/12: 7 Hurt
Replies: 45
Views: 23492

RE: QF32 Hits Severe Turbulence On 1/8/12: 7 Hurt

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/4tet" class="quote" target="_blank">4tet</a> (<a href="#9" class="quote">Reply 9</a>):<br/><i>(Think of flutter or for example the mythical susp...

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by chumley
Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A333 In PHX Today
Replies: 23
Views: 8768

RE: Delta A333 In PHX Today

Wow. I didn't notice that the inbound was a 332 and outbound 333. I know that there are occasional charters on 330s and 767s. I didn't know about the <acronym title="Minneapolis / St. Paul - International / Wold-Chamberlain Field (MSP / KMSP), USA - Minnesota">MSP</acronym> service in 2010. Now I'm ...

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by chumley
Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A333 In PHX Today
Replies: 23
Views: 8768

Delta A333 In PHX Today

About half an hour ago, I was pleasantly surprised to see an A330-300 taking off out of Phoenix. I looked it up and it's the regularly-scheduled flight DL1110 to <acronym title="Detroit - Metropolitan Wayne County (DTW / KDTW), USA - Michigan">DTW</acronym>. (It arrived from <acronym title="Detroit ...

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by chumley
Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Popularity Of European CO/UA 752 Layovers
Replies: 51
Views: 10896

RE: Popularity Of European CO/UA 752 Layovers

I flew <acronym title="Oslo - Gardermoen (OSL / ENGM), Norway">OSL</acronym>-<acronym title="Newark - Liberty International (EWR / KEWR), USA - New Jersey">EWR</acronym> this summer on <acronym title="Continental Airlines (USA)">CO</acronym> and spoke briefly with the <acronym title="Safair (South A...

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by chumley
Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA SAN-LHR How's It Doing?
Replies: 52
Views: 17775

RE: BA SAN-LHR How's It Doing?

I'm renting a house on south Mission Beach for Thanksgiving week. I'm sitting on the outdoor patio with a fire and just heard her lumber slowly overhead about 20 minutes ago. Heard it last night too. Very distinctive sound compared to the typical 737 coming out of <acronym title="San Diego - Interna...

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by chumley
Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA835 (B772) Engine Trouble Diversion
Replies: 8
Views: 7281

RE: UA835 (B772) Engine Trouble Diversion

I'm only reporting a secondhand story from a friend who said that's what the crew announcement indicated. So I'm not sure of anything. Now it sounds like they are saying there may have been a problem with the anti-icing system. But again, this is from somebody who is hearing announcements from crew ...

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by chumley
Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA835 (B772) Engine Trouble Diversion
Replies: 8
Views: 7281

UA835 (B772) Engine Trouble Diversion

A friend of mine on today's UA835 <acronym title="Chicago - O'Hare International (ORD / KORD), USA - Illinois">ORD</acronym>-<acronym title="Shanghai - Pudong International (PVG / ZSPD), China">PVG</acronym> reports a diversion due to reported engine trouble. Looking at FlightAware it doesn't appear...

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by chumley
Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New IPhone And UPS Logistics
Replies: 44
Views: 10089

RE: New IPhone And UPS Logistics

Due to a reported postal code error, I just called UPS to verify my shipment status this morning. UPS has a customized automated greeting on their phone system indicating that "residential iPhone deliveries are scheduled to be delivered by the end of the day today, and those not delivered today will...

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by chumley
Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Multilingual Announcement For Int'l Flights
Replies: 71
Views: 16875

RE: Multilingual Announcement For Int'l Flights

I have an aunt from Norway who is old enough to not have learned english. When she travels to the US, she will always choose to fly <acronym title="Scandinavian Airlines (Denmark/Norway/Sweden)">SK</acronym> regardless of the price because she knows that she will be able to communicate with somebody...

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by chumley
Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New IPhone And UPS Logistics
Replies: 44
Views: 10089

RE: New IPhone And UPS Logistics

In the OP I did not mean to imply that Apple is using UPS exclusively. I too have previously received Apple orders shipped direct from China via FedEx. It seems that some iPhones have been delivered today (earlier than "allowed") in Germany via DHL, as well as a report of FedEx delivering an iPhone ...

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by chumley
Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New IPhone And UPS Logistics
Replies: 44
Views: 10089

New IPhone And UPS Logistics

As most people who have seen a website in the past week already knows, a new iPhone is being released on Friday, 14 October. Apple announced on Monday that 1 million pre-orders had been secured on the first day, and tech blogs seem to confirm that all of those pre-orders will be delivered on Friday ...

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by chumley
Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:33 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: B6 No Crew At JFK
Replies: 9
Views: 5349

RE: B6 No Crew At JFK

Thanks for the information B6JFKH81. It definitely looks slow outside too. Emirates A380 and Singapore 744 each waited over 2 hours to get to a gate. I've seen an Asiana sit for at least an hour, and currently there's a LAN 767 and Aer Lingus and Swiss A330s just parked out there waiting. Given the ...

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by chumley
Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:52 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: B6 No Crew At JFK
Replies: 9
Views: 5349

RE: B6 No Crew At JFK

So with flights headed to <acronym title="Phoenix - Sky Harbor International (PHX / KPHX), USA - Arizona">PHX</acronym>, <acronym title="Burbank (/ Glendale / Pasadena) - Bob Hope (Lockheed Air Terminal) (BUR / KBUR), USA - California">BUR</acronym>, and Bermuda all with "partial" crews, waiting for...

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by chumley
Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:14 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: B6 No Crew At JFK
Replies: 9
Views: 5349

B6 No Crew At JFK

Hi all- I'm looking for a little magical A.net help. I'm awaiting <acronym title="JetBlue Airways (USA)">B6</acronym> 177 <acronym title="New York - John F. Kennedy International (Idlewild) (JFK / KJFK), USA - New York">JFK</acronym>-<acronym title="Phoenix - Sky Harbor International (PHX / KPHX), U...

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by chumley
Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:08 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Reasons To Store Airplanes In The Desert?
Replies: 34
Views: 22533

RE: Reasons To Store Airplanes In The Desert?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/boeing767mech" class="quote" target="_blank">boeing767mech</a> (<a href="#6" class="quote">Reply 6</a>):<br/><i>It's MoJave not MoHave. The word...

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by chumley
Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: USAirways To Spend $50M On 300 Aircraft Interiors
Replies: 47
Views: 9554

RE: USAirways To Spend $50M On 300 Aircraft Interi

"Kirby said the airline also wants to upgrade meals, offering better food, wine and other amenities." I assume this is for first/business classes? How could they possibly improve the outstanding $7 snack box I so enjoyed on my last 6-hour cattle-class journey <acronym title="New York - John F. Kenne...

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by chumley
Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The "Flat Bed" Debate
Replies: 41
Views: 8443

RE: The "Flat Bed" Debate

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by chumley
Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Who Flies The Colorado Rockies?
Replies: 40
Views: 9596

RE: Who Flies The Colorado Rockies?

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by chumley
Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Most Passengers On A Commercial Flight
Replies: 6
Views: 3646

Most Passengers On A Commercial Flight

With the A380 inaugural flight carrying 455 passengers, I wondered what the maximum numbers of passengers ever to be on a commercial flight is. (I know the A380 certification got to 853 [IIRC] but that's not a commercial flight). <p>I'm assuming that the A380 will be configured wi...

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by chumley
Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SAS Exercices B738 Options
Replies: 21
Views: 4083

RE: SAS Exercices B738 Options

Here's the link to the original posting: <a href="http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/3647149/?searchid=3647149&s=SAS+Oslo#ID3647149" target="_blank">http://www.airliners.net/discussions...rchid=3647149&s=SAS+Oslo#ID3647149</a> <br><br>[Edited ...

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