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by litz
Wed May 08, 2019 7:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Miami Air 737 runway overrun into river at NAS Jacksonville
Replies: 247
Views: 40723

Re: Miami Air 737 runway overrun into river at NAS Jacksonville

The NTSB B-roll shows a sizeable rock berm at the water's edge ... and the airplane plowed right through/over it ... Safe to say, not much of the underside probably withstood that very well. The pictures of the recovery onto the barge don't seem to show any kind of intact landing gear (not surprisin...

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by litz
Thu May 02, 2019 3:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 1459
Views: 142033

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Reference the AoA sensor disagree lights and Southwest. Southwest is Boeings best customer and they are not happy campers right now. Neither are the pilots at Southwest. Southwest has even been talking to Airbus about the A220. I just wonder how Boeing is going to regain their trust Although the Ao...

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by litz
Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1718
Views: 378964

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Outside of the normal release just after the accident (which we've had), it's not uncommon for an investigation to essentially "go dark" until it's complete or near complete, and the NTSB holds its hearing to reveal the findings. There's usually no news unless there's something that needs ...

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by litz
Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta looking into accelerating MD-90 retirement
Replies: 203
Views: 28946

Re: Delta looking into accelerating MD-90 retirement

I looked this up a year or two ago. The 717s that DL are subleasing from WN are/were owned by Boeing Capital. When DL agreed to sublease the 717s there was also an agreement with Boeing. In short, how it worked is as the WN lease with Boeing expired, DL had the ability (or maybe obligation) to then...

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by litz
Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 708851

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

VV wrote:
Have you guys jacked a car?


Once, when I first started driving, with a screw jack.

I drove immediately to the store and bought a hydraulic floor jack.

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by litz
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KATL - A brown theme?
Replies: 17
Views: 3111

Re: KATL - A brown theme?

n2dru wrote:
Eventually all concourses will sport that dark grey color.


So, basically, the entire airport is being converted to a color that doesn't show dirt .... ;-)

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by litz
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:12 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Good ol' ATL TSA
Replies: 16
Views: 2008

Re: Good ol' ATL TSA

Even if ATL uses the new updated tray system, there's more to it than that. Cause other airports use that and I don;t see the speed that ATL has. I can't help think it's a management style and an overall attitude. They just seem to do everything well. Even the folks who work the food places are gre...

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by litz
Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA300 JFK-LAX Hits object on takeoff!
Replies: 139
Views: 38727

Re: AA300 JFK-LAX Hits object on takeoff!

On the ATC recordings, the crew reported a 45 degree bank at rotation.

that's pretty considerable ...

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by litz
Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 708851

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

It’s not hard in good conditions. But in bad conditions it can be, as is shown by the ET pilot not being able to get it moving. More completely unknown details stated as known fact. We have no proof they even touched the trim wheels, let alone couldn't turn them. Sadly I think we will find out that...

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by litz
Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:20 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: GPS Rollover incidents
Replies: 18
Views: 2813

Re: GPS Rollover incidents

Chemist wrote:
That's nothing. Try flying westward over the New Mexico Rockies in a Cherokee 140 and seeing 60kts on your GPS, and watching semi-trucks on the interstate below going faster than you.


Or seeing a fully laden freight train stall out on flat, level, track - purely from headwinds.

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by litz
Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can airlines perform maintenance on 737 Max while grounded?
Replies: 6
Views: 1964

Re: While grounded . . .

They can do maintenance. They can even ferry flight if need be, provided the appropriate permit can be obtained.

What they cannot do is carry passengers in scheduled service (or even chartered service)

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by litz
Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 704274

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Anyone find it interesting that in both crashes, it was the left side AoA that had issues? And, if LionAir replaced the AoA, that means that two units failed - both on the left side. I will betcha that one (or both) of these reports will contain statistical analysis of AoA failures reported, and it ...

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by litz
Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 590991

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Honest question: remind me again, why was AoA sensor replacement required in first place? Could that be an indication of a sleeping problem in the system somewhere between AoA sensor and signal processor or ADIRU? This is something that one of these final reports is going to address, for sure ... T...

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by litz
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 708851

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

So do I see it correctly that the flaps were retracted but Mcas then self-activated? Gesendet von meinem SM-G950F mit MCAS is only active when flaps are up. And that's the saddest thing of all right there ... both of these crashes would never have happened had the crew simply re-extended the flaps,...

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by litz
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 708851

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

The report actually looks quite comprehensive however it conveniently doesn't talk about the last few minutes of the flight when DOWN electric trim was recorded. But that is automatic down trim. And it is mentioned in the report. The report quite clearly states that DOWN electric trim was automatic...

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by litz
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: When the automatic stabilizer had to be turned off, do pilots get the pitch back to normal fast enough?
Replies: 22
Views: 2401

Re: When the automatic stabilizer had to be turned off, do pilots get the pitch back to normal fast enough?

Digging back to what I think was the idea of the question (even if somewhat confusingly phrased) ... Let's posit that MCAS has spun the trim to a large extent, creating the types of control issues suspected to have led to these crashes. Moving the trim back into its normal position would be the most...

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by litz
Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SW 737MAX returns to MCO after engine failure during repositioning flight
Replies: 48
Views: 11224

Re: SW 737MAX returns to MCO after engine failure during repositioning flight

Pilots reported performance issues in the #1 engine during accent. Plane returned to the field. Upon arrival FOD was ingested into the #1 on approach. Plane landed and is at the SWA MCO hangar and will be for a while until a replacement Leap engine can be brought in to swap out. Problem is there ar...

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by litz
Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Orlando suing MLB over name
Replies: 48
Views: 6721

Re: Orlando suing MLB over name

When I first saw this, all I could think was "wait a minute, there isn't a baseball club in Orlando" ...

(since when has Melbourne's airport had Orlando in the name? Can't honestly blame them for suing, it's really not close at all, being all the way over on the coast)

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by litz
Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 704274

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

... - but still any competent pilot would have seen an issue with the Electric Trim and disconnected it as did the pilot on the previous Lionair flight. How many pilots ran across this problem and "did the right thing" (TM, in your view) and survived? ( Is this actually a reportable issue...

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by litz
Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 708851

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I’m wondering if there is an element of CRM involved here as well. The pilot hits thumb switch 21 times to counter the MCAS action. Then instead of turning of STAB TRIM he hands over the AC to the FO to do some troubleshooting. Why not tell him: “I have to keep hitting the thumb switch. Keep doing ...

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by litz
Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737 MAX Production storage during grounding.
Replies: 37
Views: 5889

Re: B737 MAX Production storage during grounding.

fcogafa wrote:
Looking at Moses Lake on Google, there is a massive ramp space where 100 or so could be parked


At current production rate, that will last ... what ... only two months?

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by litz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 708851

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

In response to post #2340 Regarding the Lion Air JT610 accident flight, at 23:22:05 UTC, the DFDR recorded the aircraft altitude was approximately 2,150 feet and the flaps were retracted. After the flaps reached 0, the DFDR recorded automatic aircraft nose down (AND) trim active for 10 seconds foll...

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by litz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 708851

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

If they had problems almost immediately after takeoff, then would MCAS be the issue? MCAS doesn't go into effect until flaps are retracted. It shouldn’t go into effect until flaps are retracted. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t go into effect until flaps are retracted. From the Lion Air crash we know i...

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by litz
Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1718
Views: 378964

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

NTSB says they plan to release a transcript of the CVR in the next week. Will be interesting to see that. I have a question for those who work in aviation here. The NTSB says the audio quality of the CVR is poor and needs some enhancement. On this thread people have said by looking at the pictures ...

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by litz
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1718
Views: 378964

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

The better news is that visually, the Crash Survivable Memory Units appear to have done their jobs and survived the crash in apparent intact condition.

Let's hope what's inside them is in as good a condition.

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by litz
Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1718
Views: 378964

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

it seems like the best way to keep all the found parts organized would be to lay them out in their original location within the outline of a 767 on the floor of a warehouse even if reconstructing the aircraft in 3D on scaffolding as was done with TWA 800 proves unnecessary. Also, if the data from b...

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by litz
Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1718
Views: 378964

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

https://youtu.be/fU9D-1Ij40Q


On some recorders, it's called a Crash Survivable Memory Unit ... I'd say it did its job admirably.
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zanl188 wrote:
CVR data module appears fairly intact....

https://youtu.be/fU9D-1Ij40Q


On some recorders, it's called a Crash Survivable Memory Unit ... I'd say it did its job admirably.

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by litz
Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1718
Views: 378964

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Why they keep the CVR unit submerged in water during transport? As noted in the posts above, it's to keep it hydrated during transport ... in addition, in the photos (and youtube video) in the NTSB lab, the first thing they do is transfer it from the transport cooler (filled with the same water as ...

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by litz
Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RAT Incidents
Replies: 27
Views: 3031

Re: RAT Incidents

1549 is commonly referred to as an engine "shutdown" ... but they never really actually fully shut down, they spun, kinda, and kept going enough that minimal power was available at the very least until the APU came online (first thing they did was start the APU, which likely saved them). W...

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by litz
Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1718
Views: 378964

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

It is a scary thought that something in the back breaks, causes an unfixable control surfaces deflection, and the people in front suddenly become helpless passengers. As I don't know how the horizontal stabilizer is constructed on a 767 (or any airliner, for that matter), could someone with knowled...

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by litz
Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1718
Views: 378964

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

I have always wondered in recent years, why "suddenly" so many old and even some very old (20 y +) 767s were converted to freighters. Airplanes which had reached the age at which most planes are being scrapped. The Amazon freighter which sadly has crashed now is among them. The freighter ...

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by litz
Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1718
Views: 378964

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

I still hear “pull” and it sounds similar to the voice in that video. As Whiplash stated, any GPWS callout - even a run-of-the-mill altitude readout - is loud . The whole point of them is that they can be heard clearly and unambiguously above the cockpit din, speech, wind nose, engine noise and so ...

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by litz
Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1718
Views: 378964

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Having read the Flightglobal item, we now know only slightly more than before. However, IMO the size of the debris field would seem to indicate that it was in one piece until impact. In that’s the case then where is the fuel. Very little fuel contamination reported on the ground. Y'all are assuming...

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by litz
Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1718
Views: 378964

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Reportedly, a young pilot: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6739049/Pictured-Pilot-killed-Atlas-Air-cargo-jet-crash-operating-Amazon-Prime-Air.html This was the jumpseater. Dailymail gets it wrong again. This is what I’m talking about a lack of known factual information and speculation and ...

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by litz
Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Georgia lawmaker lobs legislation for state takeover of Atlanta airport
Replies: 81
Views: 9772

Re: Georgia lawmaker lobs legislation for state takeover of Atlanta airport

Another key, critical, point that will scuttle this effort : Delta has primary right of refusal to any change in ownership of the airport.

It's written into their lease, which was just renewed for another 30 years.

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by litz
Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another Lion Air plane off the runway
Replies: 71
Views: 11604

Re: Another Lion Air plane off the runway

Eh. Aircrafts skids off run way all the time, in the US and elsewhere, operated by US airlines or otherwise. Here is the list of Lion Air "incidents", as shown on Wikipedia. You all can make your own judgments about whether the number seems out-of-line or not: On 14 January 2002, Lion Air...

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by litz
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:17 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Thrust reverse pushbacks still legal?
Replies: 16
Views: 3051

Re: Thrust reverse pushbacks still legal?

Also depends a lot on the type of aircraft ...

a high wing prop, an under-wing jet, a tail mounted jet ... all are going to have different considerations.

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by litz
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Video of BA 787 attempting rough landing at LHR before going around
Replies: 48
Views: 12917

Re: Video of BA 787 attempting rough landing at LHR before going around

I have to wonder ... as technology has gotten better, and new aircraft models come along, throttle response on their powerplants has also steadily improved.

An older jet, with slower response ... well, this could very well have been a vastly different, and nasty, outcome.

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by litz
Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Early WN 73Gs
Replies: 28
Views: 4736

Re: Early WN 73Gs

772 was the LGA aircraft and they have not reregistered it. N753SW was the aircraft that operated WN345 that had a nose gear collapse at LGA 5 years ago. It was indeed written off. "nose gear collapse" is a polite way of putting it ... the nose gear was shoved up through the floor of the ...

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by litz
Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corendon 747 (ex KLM PH-BFB) transport tonight
Replies: 29
Views: 6535

Re: Corendon 747 (ex KLM PH-BFB) transport tonight

I wonder if this will end up on one of those "Humongous Moves" tv shows ...

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by litz
Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian 737 Max Diverts to Shiraz, Iran
Replies: 195
Views: 48844

Re: Norwegian 737 Max Diverts to Shiraz, Iran

a350lover wrote:
Is there any update on the situation of this 737 "stranded" in Shiraz?


So far as we know, it's still there, and they're still trying to cut through red tape to get started on the repair

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by litz
Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fire in Upper Deck Economy Cabin BA208 Sunday 20th Jan
Replies: 27
Views: 7992

Re: Fire in Upper Deck Economy Cabin BA208 Sunday 20th Jan

I'd imagine that the small amounts of Li in the battery aren't much of a concern re: water ... and the idea is to reduce the temperature enough that you don't re-ignite.

Remember this is a thermal based chemical reaction, not a oxygen based combustion reaction.

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by litz
Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:07 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Predictions: ATL Superbowl Weekend Upgauges
Replies: 41
Views: 5491

Re: Predictions: ATL Superbowl Weekend Upgauges

If need be, there are also D gates that are "general use", or if needed, there are certainly gates out on E or F than can accommodate larger aircraft.

(domestic flights can certainly use E and F, they just tend to do so fairly seldomly)

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by litz
Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:17 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Predictions: ATL Superbowl Weekend Upgauges
Replies: 41
Views: 5491

Re: Predictions: ATL Superbowl Weekend Upgauges

A better question is how on earth all those people are gonna get through security on Feb 4th, with what's currently going on with the TSA.

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by litz
Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SWA 1643 Runway Excursion at OMA
Replies: 82
Views: 10440

Re: SWA 1643 Runway Overrun at OMA

Appears to either be a slow speed excursion, or they slid off turning off at the end.

Weather there apparently is far north of "nasty"

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by litz
Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:22 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Security issue - deplaning pax ?
Replies: 20
Views: 2884

Re: Security issue - deplaning pax ?

Years ago, in STL, AA had CRJ flights to Springfield IL and MO, boarding at the same time from the same gate. The airplanes were parked next to each other and had 10 min staggered departure times. FA told me they blocked 4 seats on each return flight specifically for "oops I'm in the wrong stat...

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by litz
Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 590991

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Look at UA232 at Sioux City. There was no "checklist" for loss of 3rd engine and loss of all flight controls. The pilots figured out as best they could what had happened and flew the plane solely with two engines, using differential power for pitch, turn, etc. That's not something I imagi...

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by litz
Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 590991

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

On Boeing; It doesn't seem hard to me to revise the code to "AoA = Disagree then MCAS = Off" Easy to say, but as the 737 avionic is split in two, left side and right side, without communication between the two, it will be difficult to generate a AoA disagree on each FCC. The displays have...

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by litz
Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220 Delta Launch May Be Delayed
Replies: 16
Views: 4580

Re: A220 Delta Launch May Be Delayed

https://www.ajc.com/news/national/faa-i ... NOOUJCqWK/
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Maybe they can make it after all ...

FAA inspectors, engineers called back to work amid shutdown
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/faa-i ... NOOUJCqWK/

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by litz
Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 590991

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Under 28 feet of mud according to CNN. How did it get buried so deep and how the hell did they find that it? Some of these shallow water impact craters are amazingly deep, go look at the writeups on the recovery of the Valujet everglades crash ... pieces of that airplane ended up way, way underneat...

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