That's a sizeable bird!Jump to post
Looks like one thrust reverser is still active after the overrun while the other is stowed. I don't know a ton about the Cessna Citation series so I am not sure how it would be to counter it but having asymmetrical reverse thrust would not be a fun time on a lot of airplanes. Depending on damages, ...Jump to post
It is said that United 292 slid into a similar type of cornfield reducing impact and injuries too.. If you're referring to United 232 in Sioux City, the cornfield at the end really didn't do much. The DC-10 was already cartwheeling and broke to bits. In my opinion the only help the cornfield gave w...Jump to post
Well done to the pilots for putting this bird down safely with no casualties on board. I’m sure the A321’s advanced systems also played a major part in this not ending in disaster. At this point the aircraft was pretty much a glider, so I doubt the safe outcome was a result of advanced systems. Thi...Jump to post
Correct me if I'm wrong ... but oxygen masks (dispensing .. you know ... oxygen) into a possible fire environment might not be the smartest possible move? What do the procedures say about a manual deployment? Obviously the masks drop in a cabin pressure situation (which is what they're designed for)...Jump to post
I think the big difference is that while both types have had some very high profile crashes, none of those crashes occurred here in the US ... to the public minds' eye, that makes a big difference. I'd bet that if you rebranded the airplane, here in the US within six months of re-entry into service,...Jump to post
MCAS 2.0 is in the KC-46 (767 derivative), and it wouldn't surprise me to find there are similar systems in almost every other aircraft. The problem with this system was never really what it did, from a conceptual standpoint. It was how it implemented what it did ... just a very poor design, with po...Jump to post
mga707 wrote:BrianWilkes wrote:Any aircraft that finds the water would be an instant right off!
I know it's a special case, but the last Boeing 307 Stratoliner that wound up in the Seattle-area lake was repaired.
Not exactly a "natural" disaster, but there was the A340(?) that was destroyed during 2016 Civil War of the Avengers at the Leipzig/Halle Airport. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFxjPaF2m4E&t=1m35s /joke :hyper: Funny story about that ... the film's producers asked to film that scene ...Jump to post
From what I've read a pilot would have to try really really hard to stall a 777. Might want to tell Asiana that. JetBuddy wrote: "737 slides off the runway" is the new "Florida man".. I have seen the above around a.net recently, with others finding it funny! I would be very happ...Jump to post
The Nanny State claims another victim. Or the government is appropriately protecting the health and well being of the 86% of the US population that does not smoke. For many non-smokers the smell of cigarettes is difficult to tolerate and if you have a breathing condition - asthma, allergies - it ca...Jump to post
Have to wonder if either VC-25A has accumulated enough hours for a major check ... they spend a lot of time not flying. Most of that time not flying, the Air Force is performing maintenance of some sort or another, or cleaning/polishing. Those 747s are probably kept in better shape than when they le...Jump to post
USAir 1549 is an interesting example ... The passengers got their belongings back (cleaned/dried, decontaminated, etc) The airplane became the property of the insurer, which donated it to the museum where it now sits on display Most of the time, I'd expect the wreckage after the insurer is done with...Jump to post
Curious, does this really help underwater biodiversity? I do see the tourism aspect but I am concerned about pollution. I'd imagine they strip out everything but the hull. old ships like the ex-Oriskany have been sunk to create artificial reefs before. but then there's also been the "tire reef...Jump to post
Ferry movements are governed under special flight rules (and one time permits)Jump to post
If I were AA, I'd also be making darned sure I'd get paid for the part I was supplying ...Jump to post
The NTSB B-roll shows a sizeable rock berm at the water's edge ... and the airplane plowed right through/over it ... Safe to say, not much of the underside probably withstood that very well. The pictures of the recovery onto the barge don't seem to show any kind of intact landing gear (not surprisin...Jump to post
Reference the AoA sensor disagree lights and Southwest. Southwest is Boeings best customer and they are not happy campers right now. Neither are the pilots at Southwest. Southwest has even been talking to Airbus about the A220. I just wonder how Boeing is going to regain their trust Although the Ao...Jump to post
Outside of the normal release just after the accident (which we've had), it's not uncommon for an investigation to essentially "go dark" until it's complete or near complete, and the NTSB holds its hearing to reveal the findings. There's usually no news unless there's something that needs ...Jump to post
I looked this up a year or two ago. The 717s that DL are subleasing from WN are/were owned by Boeing Capital. When DL agreed to sublease the 717s there was also an agreement with Boeing. In short, how it worked is as the WN lease with Boeing expired, DL had the ability (or maybe obligation) to then...Jump to post
VV wrote:Have you guys jacked a car?
Even if ATL uses the new updated tray system, there's more to it than that. Cause other airports use that and I don;t see the speed that ATL has. I can't help think it's a management style and an overall attitude. They just seem to do everything well. Even the folks who work the food places are gre...Jump to post
It’s not hard in good conditions. But in bad conditions it can be, as is shown by the ET pilot not being able to get it moving. More completely unknown details stated as known fact. We have no proof they even touched the trim wheels, let alone couldn't turn them. Sadly I think we will find out that...Jump to post
Chemist wrote:That's nothing. Try flying westward over the New Mexico Rockies in a Cherokee 140 and seeing 60kts on your GPS, and watching semi-trucks on the interstate below going faster than you.
Anyone find it interesting that in both crashes, it was the left side AoA that had issues? And, if LionAir replaced the AoA, that means that two units failed - both on the left side. I will betcha that one (or both) of these reports will contain statistical analysis of AoA failures reported, and it ...Jump to post
Honest question: remind me again, why was AoA sensor replacement required in first place? Could that be an indication of a sleeping problem in the system somewhere between AoA sensor and signal processor or ADIRU? This is something that one of these final reports is going to address, for sure ... T...Jump to post
So do I see it correctly that the flaps were retracted but Mcas then self-activated? Gesendet von meinem SM-G950F mit MCAS is only active when flaps are up. And that's the saddest thing of all right there ... both of these crashes would never have happened had the crew simply re-extended the flaps,...Jump to post
The report actually looks quite comprehensive however it conveniently doesn't talk about the last few minutes of the flight when DOWN electric trim was recorded. But that is automatic down trim. And it is mentioned in the report. The report quite clearly states that DOWN electric trim was automatic...Jump to post
Digging back to what I think was the idea of the question (even if somewhat confusingly phrased) ... Let's posit that MCAS has spun the trim to a large extent, creating the types of control issues suspected to have led to these crashes. Moving the trim back into its normal position would be the most...Jump to post
Pilots reported performance issues in the #1 engine during accent. Plane returned to the field. Upon arrival FOD was ingested into the #1 on approach. Plane landed and is at the SWA MCO hangar and will be for a while until a replacement Leap engine can be brought in to swap out. Problem is there ar...Jump to post
When I first saw this, all I could think was "wait a minute, there isn't a baseball club in Orlando" ...
(since when has Melbourne's airport had Orlando in the name? Can't honestly blame them for suing, it's really not close at all, being all the way over on the coast)
... - but still any competent pilot would have seen an issue with the Electric Trim and disconnected it as did the pilot on the previous Lionair flight. How many pilots ran across this problem and "did the right thing" (TM, in your view) and survived? ( Is this actually a reportable issue...Jump to post
I’m wondering if there is an element of CRM involved here as well. The pilot hits thumb switch 21 times to counter the MCAS action. Then instead of turning of STAB TRIM he hands over the AC to the FO to do some troubleshooting. Why not tell him: “I have to keep hitting the thumb switch. Keep doing ...Jump to post
In response to post #2340 Regarding the Lion Air JT610 accident flight, at 23:22:05 UTC, the DFDR recorded the aircraft altitude was approximately 2,150 feet and the flaps were retracted. After the flaps reached 0, the DFDR recorded automatic aircraft nose down (AND) trim active for 10 seconds foll...Jump to post
If they had problems almost immediately after takeoff, then would MCAS be the issue? MCAS doesn't go into effect until flaps are retracted. It shouldn’t go into effect until flaps are retracted. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t go into effect until flaps are retracted. From the Lion Air crash we know i...Jump to post
NTSB says they plan to release a transcript of the CVR in the next week. Will be interesting to see that. I have a question for those who work in aviation here. The NTSB says the audio quality of the CVR is poor and needs some enhancement. On this thread people have said by looking at the pictures ...Jump to post
it seems like the best way to keep all the found parts organized would be to lay them out in their original location within the outline of a 767 on the floor of a warehouse even if reconstructing the aircraft in 3D on scaffolding as was done with TWA 800 proves unnecessary. Also, if the data from b...Jump to post
zanl188 wrote:CVR data module appears fairly intact....
Why they keep the CVR unit submerged in water during transport? As noted in the posts above, it's to keep it hydrated during transport ... in addition, in the photos (and youtube video) in the NTSB lab, the first thing they do is transfer it from the transport cooler (filled with the same water as ...Jump to post
1549 is commonly referred to as an engine "shutdown" ... but they never really actually fully shut down, they spun, kinda, and kept going enough that minimal power was available at the very least until the APU came online (first thing they did was start the APU, which likely saved them). W...Jump to post
It is a scary thought that something in the back breaks, causes an unfixable control surfaces deflection, and the people in front suddenly become helpless passengers. As I don't know how the horizontal stabilizer is constructed on a 767 (or any airliner, for that matter), could someone with knowled...Jump to post