Utah744 wrote:How much would it cost to bring it up to Air Force 1 specs?
I wonder whether the thrust levers were idle or beginning to spool back up at moment of touchdown. I would think an A320 at idle touching the ground would decelerate quickly. To the contrary, the LOT 767 that did a gear up landing seemed to take awhile to decelerate. I’m only judging on the video s...Jump to post
They were optimists. Maybe that and... If you are about to crash somewhere else than on a runway anyway, every joule of energy which goes into ripping the landing gear apart is one joule less which goes into hurting the passengers... Well, the gear gets shoved up into the plane on impact, I think. ...Jump to post
Didnt UAL 232 had two engines remaining? I recall the pilots having to shut the tail engine off, but again what puzzles me if as you said using the throttles wouldnt have worked, why did using them in the final moments allowed the aircraft to slightly level off? 232 did indeed only have two engines...Jump to post
OO-DLL was hit by a SAM climbing through 8.000 ft. It caused the loss of all hydraulics and set the outboard wing on fire. That crew didn't just manage to regain control, bring the aircraft around and perform an approach. Finding themselves drifting away from the runway, they performed a go-around,...Jump to post
I believe they're bringing medical supplies over, just like the AA cargo flight wasJump to post
Atlanta United flew today to Honduras for Concacaaf Champions League aboard DL Ship 3603, which is N303DQ (a 737-732). Per FR24 : 17 Feb 2020 Atlanta (ATL) San Pedro Sula (SAP) DL8873 2:47 12:00 PM 12:32 PM 2:30 PM Landed 2:19 PM Coming back tomorrow morning: 19 Feb 2020 San Pedro Sula (SAP) Atlant...Jump to post
Atlanta United flew today to Honduras for Concacaaf Champions League aboard DL Ship 3603, which is N303DQ (a 737-732).
Per FR24 : 17 Feb 2020 Atlanta (ATL) San Pedro Sula (SAP) DL8873 2:47 12:00 PM 12:32 PM 2:30 PM
Landed 2:19 PM
There are some interesting changes to the MLS Collective Bargaining Agreement that was settled this past week, that would affect this thread ... 1) all MLS teams traveling to/from international competitions (e.g. Concacaaf Champions League) must now use charter flights 2) the number of allowed intra...Jump to post
Not only snowing ... but we're talking serious, thick, heavy snow ... not flurries.
And they were flying in the thick of it ...
This isn’t a general response but I know the high demand and low supply for JT8Ds has brought delta to buying old Allegiant birds in Victorville for replacement parts. I imagine their value is pretty high, are there any other engines in high demand right now? Could we foresee this being a trend whe...Jump to post
readytotaxi wrote:Video here.
Glad there was no englufing fire.
Who needs slides when you can just walk out on the wing, and step down to the street?Jump to post
I can't imagine such a drop was either intentional or controlled ... what was the weather?Jump to post
Stirring the pot, makes me wonder if we're looking at a potential 757/767 style combination new design, for commonality purposes.
That was a large driver/selling point of those models, after all ...
There was some speculation from some of the wreckage that one of the missiles impacted the EE bay directly under/behind the cockpit ... If that were true, and it was the first hit, almost assuredly all data stopped at that point ... no computers, no EE, no data. In "theory" the plane would...Jump to post
The only reason to dump fuel that low while returning that quick is a fire. Terrain isn’t an issue in LA the ocean is straight out. An engine out does not require this type of expeditious return to field. Speaking of fire, in the unlikely event of the dumped fuel landing on an open flame (wild fire...Jump to post
So, riddle me this ... Iran is a very proud country. They do not like to be "told" what to do ... They've, by all evidence, had members of their air defense make a horrible, tragic mistake ... How exactly do they extricate themselves from this, considering their air minister is already off...Jump to post
TBH, My bet is, when they finally get the readouts from the boxes ... the data will just suddenly stop. It would fit what we saw from the transponder data ... a sudden cessation. And Iran can say "see, no evidence there that it was a missile" Heh, well if you want to nitpick ... they woul...Jump to post
A country that's not directly involved still has a responsibility to protect it's citizens. I would expect there's at least a small number of Russian and Chinese citizens that go to Iran as tourists. Therefore it isn't unreasonable to assume that countries that have knowledge of a missile downing a...Jump to post
No one is disputing that. But when someone is distrusted by many of their peers then the onus is on them to prove they are being truthful. The NTSB is invited by Iran as an observer. The recorders will be turned over to Ukraine. That should be sufficient. Anything else would be inappropriate and ag...Jump to post
Something important to look at in all the news reports, government statements, et al ... nobody has accused Iran (the country) of perpetrating the act. To suggest otherwise, that this was sanctioned by the state entity ... Not even the current White House occupant ... whose relationship with Iran ca...Jump to post
Other accounts on twitter say Iranian state media reports it had a “technical fault after taking off”... totally unconfirmed, but if it was indeed a Ukrainian airliner, would imagine it would be PS752 headed to Kiev based on the timeline Technical fault like a Manpad missle? Well, they would’ve bee...Jump to post
Doesn't even have to be the 2nd missile ... If this whole thing started with a technical issue (compressor stall, birdstrike, etc), that alone could have made enough noise to attract the filmographer's attention. All you need is a "BANG!" sound in the sky, and you go "what was that?&...Jump to post
This would be advantageous if you were concerned about enemy forces geolocating a stationary radar source to take out. No kidding ... with only a few seconds of radar pulse, following by a launch, you can boogie on out to another physical location in next to no time, making any kind of reprisal dif...Jump to post
dara88 is either a troll or a ....... Either case, just ignore him. Troll with over 250 photos on A.net. You guys can just say whatever you want, but definitely the Boeing company wants to blame it on others, so would Donald Trump. Ah. That's where this was heading. I just dunno for what reason. An...Jump to post
The target acquisition radar is a 3D F band pulse doppler radar, equipped with a truncated parabolic antenna, and a mechanically, later electronically, scanned in azimuth with a 32-degree sector view, and has an average power output of 1.5 kW, which provides a maximum detection range of 25 km/16 mi...Jump to post
Nobody will take a video of the dark sky with the target being right in the middle of the frame; at 6:15 AM. And without any reaction after the so called missile hits the target! I saw a note earlier that the person who filmed that video was walking their dog. Trust me, when a dog decides it's gott...Jump to post
If a missile hits a plane with a full tank, don't you think that the plane would explode immediately? Or become a fireball? In that video no such thing is visible. Also, why should anyone record a video of the dark black sky without any purpose? In my opinion, it's definitely fake. This has been ex...Jump to post
I have one question. Given this was deeply in Iran territory, why would Iran military use some mobile radar and such (according to news, US intelligence detected radar turning on). Shouldn't they have some stationary radars around the country and these would be active all the time. Why use this mob...Jump to post
Those ISNA photos make it pretty clear that aircraft impacted with pretty good forward speed, at a fairly shallow angle, and plowed through at least two very, very solid walls. It also shows clearly the aftermath of that kind of impact ... there simply isn't much left that's intact ... whether it's ...Jump to post
Apparently there is already some confirmation that the buildings in the missile hit video are from the area; and the NY Times has apparently gotten a high resolution copy of the original and is working to obtain pictures to verify the location of the buildings and structures. This per... https://tw...Jump to post
Like I said earlier, a fireball requires that fuel flowing from the stricken aircraft meet an ignition source. Only if you had active fuel pumping into a running (and stricken) engine would you have fire. The airstream would pull the fuel immediately well past the wing (and engines), otherwise. Wher...Jump to post
Looks like he was walking his dog and probably heard a missile launch so he quickly took a video and then barely caught the impact. Someone wrote, that the suspected launch site was very close to the impact zone. That camera was ready. See how fast that projectile moves? I am not trying to defend t...Jump to post
I haven't seen to many videos of missile strikes but wouldn't there be a fire coming from the 737 right after it gets hit by missile from all the fuel? That video shows what would appear to be a missile hit something and then there is nothing afterwards. You'd need an ignition source to have a fire...Jump to post
Delta will go with whichever model/manufacturer fits the mission and has the cheapest price. That's called business. The last several orders, Airbus has won out. Boeing may well (or may not) win on the NMA ... There's been some speculation DL may launch the NMA, and might get a goodly discount by do...Jump to post
Gasoline and jet fuel only weigh .8 pounds different Heavy like "heavy oil" vs "light oil". Heavy = difficult to ignite. Maybe I did not use exactly the most appropriate words, but jet fuel is closer to diesel than to gasoline regarding the flammability. You can drop a lit match...Jump to post
Per CNN, European Intelligence officials are now backing the original CBS report:
https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-new ... ba6153ffcd
What about the possibility that there was some technical fault that caused/required them to turn right (slightly) off the SID putting them on a direct trajectory for the air defense site. Air defense site quickly reacts and fires a missile. Impact was at the time ADS-B ceased. Aircraft still partia...Jump to post
Why would a missile strike on an essentially-unpressurized aircraft necessarily eliminate the ability to turn back to the airport? If the pilots were still alive, and the plane's hydraulics weren't immediately inoperative, one would expect them to turn back towards safety. Well. Not too far away th...Jump to post