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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am questions
Replies: 28
Views: 3040

Re: Pan Am questions

Legacy route authorities will have been part of this. Whilst these days we are increasingly used to Open Skies agreements or quite generous bilateral agreements in many markets, it was quite often the case that for various historic reasons there might be some odd fifth freedom rights that existed an...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta fleet 1999
Replies: 32
Views: 6047

Re: Delta fleet 1999

I know it was probably more interesting, but as I am only 13, I couldn't see for myself. You are presently 13 years old? Learn to read the Annual Reports. In addition to the balance sheet (assets and how much is owed) you will find an income statement: where the money goes (salaries, fuel, interest...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LGW has 21 departing passengers in 1 day
Replies: 9
Views: 5983

Re: LGW has 21 departing passengers in 1 day

BA has already relayed to tourism officials there that it intends to restart from LHR. No decision has been made,the threat of pulling out was aimed at the Unions. BA would be stupid to give up Gatwick. WW has stated since the threat that Gatwick is good for BA. Any way we would know by now if the ...

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by FlyCaledonian
Mon May 04, 2020 9:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA could make up to 12,000 employees redundant
Replies: 311
Views: 56504

Re: BA could make up to 12.000 employees redundant

The UK government will not extend the furlough scheme in definitely - what will businesses do once that ends? The BA legal team are not stupid and would have investigated the ability to start this process during this period and I suspect they also got outside legal advise. Starting now means that t...

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by FlyCaledonian
Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA could make up to 12,000 employees redundant
Replies: 311
Views: 56504

Re: BA could make up to 12.000 employees redundant

Will be interesting to see what the unions have to say about this. Sounds like BA may be exploiting the pandemic to weed out higher-cost (maybe older?) workers so they can hire cheap when things pick up again. All because of a slump in travel that may correct itself in a year. BA knows that they ca...

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by FlyCaledonian
Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA could make up to 12,000 employees redundant
Replies: 311
Views: 56504

Re: BA could make up to 12.000 employees redundant

This could be quite radical, with all LGW ops moved to LHR and IAG effectively trying to make the most of fortress Heathrow; or it could be a mix of changes. Unfortunately my hunch is that it will be the former - U2 will be retrenching at LGW and Norwegian could collapse, so IAG could take the view ...

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by FlyCaledonian
Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 200
Views: 51511

Re: Norwegian Puts 4 Subsidiaries Into Bankruptcy

I think people need to realise that the aviation market is going to go through a major recession like in the early 1980s, 1990s or 2000s again. A number of airlines will unfortunately fold; a number are going to downsize to various degrees; and there is going to be a long slog to get passenger numbe...

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by FlyCaledonian
Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL Takes Into Account Possibility of AFKL Breakup
Replies: 208
Views: 23445

Re: KL Takes Into Account Possibility of AFKL Breakup

Would a theoretical takeover of KL by IAG be complicated by IAG's ownership if EI as well as KL? KL often made the argument that AMS was LHR's third airport as well as the fact it has so much feed from the UK regions. Whilst having no where near the same amount of longhaul traffic as AMS, DUB's heav...

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by FlyCaledonian
Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?
Replies: 87
Views: 14437

Re: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?

When BA merged with BCAL, did they really want the DC-10s, apart from the British made jets and Tristars' they had they were a loyal Boeing customer , I would have thought the would have kept BCAL's 747s and of loaded the DC-10s. The Landor livery did look stunning on the DC-10s, but I did also lov...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?
Replies: 16
Views: 5321

Re: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?

Depends if they were owned or leased. If the latter they maybe didn't like the leasing charges. Or, if they were owned and needed the money the 747-200s could be seen as having the higher value, so made more sense to sell those, especially if between the 747-100s and DC-10s they had the aircraft to...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?
Replies: 16
Views: 5321

Re: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?

Depends if they were owned or leased. If the latter they maybe didn't like the leasing charges. Or, if they were owned and needed the money the 747-200s could be seen as having the higher value, so made more sense to sell those, especially if between the 747-100s and DC-10s they had the aircraft to ...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?
Replies: 87
Views: 14437

Re: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?

The routing on this was Gatwick-Phoenix-San Diego - it was certainly never planned as an LAX service. It was one of the longest rotations in the DC-10 network and the aircraft either had a rest when it got back to Gatwick in the early afternoon or went off on that night's Dubai/Colombo rotation on ...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Questions about JAL's B747-200 Executive Express
Replies: 28
Views: 6580

Re: Questions about JAL's B747-200 Executive Express

The company called 3 B747-200 as Executive Express, with just Business and First Class and, AFAIK, the 747 upper deck had beds for the First Class. Standard configuration of Executive Express. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dxrl6kXVAAI95Qi?format=jpg&name=900x900 "Jumbo Jet to New York. 20 ho...

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by FlyCaledonian
Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?
Replies: 87
Views: 14437

Re: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?

Interesting side note....if I recall correctly. BOAC (later BA) was originally leaning towards ordering the DC-10 as BOAC figured it would have been a somewhat more capable long range plane for thinner routes compared to the TriStar ( the longer range L-1011-500 didn't enter service until 1979, inc...

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by FlyCaledonian
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA Schedules 744 for SJC-LHR in Summer 2020
Replies: 69
Views: 14396

Re: BA Schedules 744 for SJC-LHR in Summer 2020

BA is the only few airlines in the world can make A380 work. And BA is the only handful airlines that can make premium heavy aircraft work. So safe to say that A380 will stay in BA. However, I think B744 had its days for now. That being said, I wonder if a B744 turned to combo would work for BA in ...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA1 diverting to LHR
Replies: 25
Views: 11156

Re: BA1 diverting to LHR

http://thebasource.com/british-airways- ... tenance-2/

Do have to wonder if the BA1/BA2 service will resume.
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flyingphil wrote:

Do have to wonder if the BA1/BA2 service will resume.

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by FlyCaledonian
Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: U.S. Air Rebranding to U.S. Airways
Replies: 289
Views: 34796

Re: U.S. Air Rebranding to U.S. Airways

blacksoviet wrote:
Why didn’t Stephen Wolf order any 737-500s?

Because previous leadership had already selected the Fokker 100 over the 737-500. Wolf made the deal with Airbus to bring in the A320 family and A330-300s.

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by FlyCaledonian
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What was the rationale for 2-5-2 configuration on older widebodies?
Replies: 77
Views: 14320

Re: What was the rationale for 2-5-2 configuration on older widebodies?

BA had 3-3-3 in their TriStars (but 3-4-3 in the very back section) but kept the DC-10s inherited from BCal in 2-5-2.

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by FlyCaledonian
Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways interested in flying US Domestic Routes
Replies: 159
Views: 21614

Re: British Airways interested in flying US Domestic Routes

The BA of Lord King and Sir Colin Marshall would have loved to fly US domestic. Hence attempts to merge/acquire UA and CO before they settled for a 25% stake in US.

The BA of Willie Walsh has no interest in US domestic. The former ambassador is talking rubbish.

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by FlyCaledonian
Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA retires first 777
Replies: 58
Views: 18107

Re: BA retires first 777

That sounds abnormally short, I would have thought the flights their 777s fly average between 6-8 hours? It's a non-ER so would have been on the shortest transatlantic routes, BOS/JFK and eastern Canada, as well as routes to northern Africa and Tel Aviv, could easily have done a lot of 4 hour secto...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: British Airways To Launch Long-Haul Flights From Manchester
Replies: 176
Views: 28540

Re: Rumor: British Airways To Launch Long-Haul Flights From Manchester

The rumours seem to come and go periodically. Whilst I think BA may have some success out of MAN if they were to try again, I’ll believe it when I see it. Yes, several times 'W' pattern flights using Gatwicked 777s has been mentioned, especially once the re-configurations are complete. It has been ...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's the difference between Worldwide fleet and Mixed fleet at BA?
Replies: 54
Views: 10306

Re: What's the difference between Worldwide fleet and Mixed fleet at BA?

As a frequent passenger, I can say that once on board, you can usually tell, without looking at the route allocation, if the crew is WW or MF fleet. For one thing, WW crew are noticeably older than MF crew. WW crew tend to be more relaxed and self-assured in their service delivery. That's not to sa...

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by FlyCaledonian
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Doubt BAW 787-10 and a350-1000 strategy
Replies: 42
Views: 9734

Re: Doubt BAW 787-10 and a350-1000 strategy

Think B78K as a replacement for B777-200 and A35K as a replacement as B777-300ER and B744. 2 different market and capacity. The 777-300ERs aren’t being replaced yet. The current 12 are being reconfigured (8F/76J/40W/130Y) to operate 747 Hi-J routes with a further 4 on order. According to another fo...

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by FlyCaledonian
Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why there are no morning flights from US West Coast to Europe?
Replies: 59
Views: 14449

Re: Why there are no morning flights from US West Coast to Europe?

On arrival, after flying for about 11 hours, our business traveller would have his/her internal clock at 10:00 PM. He/she might need some strong coffee to stay awake for another 15 hours. I have done similar flights, although not to Europe. After a full day of work in east coast, catch the midnight...

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by FlyCaledonian
Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BEA Tridents at Gatwick
Replies: 37
Views: 6428

Re: BEA Tridents at Gatwick

Interestingly, when you look at the timetables from when the BA/US agreement started very few onward flights from BWI carried a BA code. The majority of onward connections were via PHL, PIT and CLT (plus in the very early years BOS and LAX, connecting off the BA flights). I'm not sure why BWI didn'...

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by FlyCaledonian
Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BEA Tridents at Gatwick
Replies: 37
Views: 6428

Re: BEA Tridents at Gatwick

I believe there where only 3 US Airways 767's painted in BA colours, N652US, N654US & N655US. They flew Gatwick to Baltimore, Charlotte and Pittsburgh which was launched in June 1993 following the BA tie up. Baltimore was ex TWA route that was purchased and Charlotte was inherited from Piedmont...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The A220 and LCY - JFK (BA001)
Replies: 20
Views: 8036

Re: The A220 and LCY - JFK (BA001)

Why did BA retire the other A318 that flew LCY-JFK? Pre-clearance at Shannon ceased to be available when the operating hours were cut back. So the benefit of using the necessary fuel stop for this, meaning on arrival at JFK you were treated as a domestic passenger, was lost. The flight just wasn't ...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BEA Tridents at Gatwick
Replies: 37
Views: 6428

Re: BEA Tridents at Gatwick

Worth remembering perhaps that for much of the Trident era, BEA, later BA Airtours operated albeit charter flights out of LGW, they used types from the BEA and later BA fleet such as Comet 4B's, 707-436's (and for a period in 1984 even a one class 747-236 G-BDXK, (which I flew on after delivery to ...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian with LHR slots S20?
Replies: 60
Views: 11078

Re: Norwegian with LHR slots S20?

Three weekly is hardly ideal. I get they wanted a daily slot pair, but this has to be almost as bad as getting none. At least if they had got ten slots they could have operated a 5xWeekly to somewhere but 3xWeekly means it's going to need to be an O&D route that doesn't count on frequency. Yet i...

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by FlyCaledonian
Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Big capacity increase on VS's LHR-JFK flight due to 4 x A350's being deployed on route. Were they under capacity before?
Replies: 32
Views: 7579

Re: Big capacity increase on VS's LHR-JFK flight due to 4 x A350's being deployed on route. Were they under capacity bef

This seems to be about putting the newest product on the route and tempting some of those premium passengers away from AA/BA. BA's response is that two 772s with the new Club World Suites will operate on the LHR-JFK route but the majority remain on refreshed 744s with the older Club World seats.

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350neo with GE engines?
Replies: 59
Views: 10897

Re: A350neo with GE engines?

To be honest it potentially also benefits Airbus. Airframe and Engine manufacturers are really pushing the envelope. The Trent fanblade issues have hurt RR but not stopped them racking up orders. But if the Ultrafan ran into problems Airbus having a back-up plan for the A350 might not be a bad idea....

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A look back: Emirates 34th anniversary
Replies: 12
Views: 4298

Re: A look back: Emirates 34th anniversary

It's an interesting airline because it's origins seem to stem from Gulf Air cutting back service to Dubai yet it has come to play a part in the growth of Dubai itself. I wonder how much its growth was helped by various airlines dropping their multi-stop fights through the Gulf region in the early 19...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes
Replies: 252
Views: 64583

Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

It's a shame that the Isle of Man will loose it's important link to London Heathrow after only regaining it again this year after many years without a service to London's premier airport. Although I don't envisage it happening but it would be great news if British Airways started a London Heathrow ...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: History behind idiosyncratic IATA airline shortcodes
Replies: 171
Views: 28398

Re: History behind idiosyncratic IATA airline shortcodes

MT, used by the late Thomas Cook Airlines, came from My Travel (The former Airtours International). BY, used by TUI Airways, comes from Britannia Airways. I always assume the Y as the second letter was because of what was available plus for Airwa Y s. I always loved the fact that this airline, found...

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by FlyCaledonian
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Different BA 777 interior configurations
Replies: 24
Views: 6141

Re: Different BA 777 interior configurations

BA has one of the most outdated and bland cabin product on some of their 777s (G-YMM* series) and crazy thing is, the one with refurbished (G-VII*) is still behind at least 10 years compared to some of the other carriers out there !! I cannot believe how average their C and J class is including sea...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAG deciding between A220 and Embraer E2 for BA Cityflyer
Replies: 298
Views: 64767

Re: IAG deciding between A220 and Embraer E2 for BA Cityflyer

Any indication that BA sees a future in the longer term for LCY-JFK would be a refurbished of G-EUNA with the new Club World suites, or a variant thereof. With the Suites rolling out onto some JFK flights in the Autumn (and reconfiguratioon of the Hi-J 744s likely starting in early 2020) the Club Wo...

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by FlyCaledonian
Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA history in Zambia question
Replies: 4
Views: 1052

Re: BA history in Zambia question

BA returned to Zambia once it took over BCal. It flew DC10s on a LGW-LUN-GBE service. In Winter 1988/89 this operated twice weekly as BA44/45. This flight definitely operated in Summer 1989 and Winter 1989/90. By Summer 1992 Lusaka had switched to LHR as a twice-weekly tag from Harare on a 747 clas...

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by FlyCaledonian
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: British a/c assembly sites
Replies: 8
Views: 1268

Re: British a/c assembly sites

VC10 Weybridge Surrey, first flown at Brooklands The Concorde test pilot Brian Trubshaw astutely notes in his autob "Test Pilot" the different route taken by the French from Concorde onwards in developing a single manufacturing place of excellence (Toulouse), whilst the us Brits made did ...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is BA ever going to expand its LGW fleet?
Replies: 32
Views: 6438

Re: Is BA ever going to expand its LGW fleet?

The ex-BD A319s (G-DBAx) that BA sent to LGW are younger than those BA took new from Airbus. The mixed bag of second hand A320s (G-GATx) had a major refurbishment before entering service. So not really tatty cast offs. Could BA add A321s? Possibly but it would be a third aircraft size in what is sti...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery
Replies: 671
Views: 140024

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

CarbonFibre wrote:
Apparently BA sold the rights to the Caledonian name to JMC and they then sold them on to someone else.

But it is unclear who owns the rights to British Caledonian, which a few of us would love to see honoured.

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by FlyCaledonian
Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery
Replies: 671
Views: 140024

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Such a shame this isn't painted on a 748 BA had many 748's painted in Landor, I flew on several Scottish internal flights myself. Before that they had them painted up in Negus livery, great days ! Oh right you meant some other aircraft ? :D Got to love a Budgie. https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery
Replies: 671
Views: 140024

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

My second favorite livery of all time. I wish they would revert back to this livery :( Has any airline ever reinstated a previous livery? Air India. The livery below didn't last long before they reverted to their old one. The Indian public liked the flying palace design too much. https://www.yester...

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by FlyCaledonian
Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways commits to ordering 18 777-9 plus an additional 24 options
Replies: 254
Views: 49011

Re: British Airways commits to ordering 18 777-9 plus an additional 24 options

The 777-9 on multiple LHR-JFK flights feels like overkill. The configuration also doesn't scream a Hi-J 747-436 replacement. Whilst this is announced as the 747 replacement could it be more complex and result in one of BA's internal cascades? 779 replaces the 77W, which is used on some of BA's longe...

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by FlyCaledonian
Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 521
Views: 95635

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

I wouldn't have minded if they had flipped the livery and gone eith a green belly (BA size) and had a green tail with the shamrock.

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by FlyCaledonian
Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery
Replies: 671
Views: 140024

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Whatever BA does they will never please some people. As a company they can trace their origins back 100 years and that is what they are celebrating. With regards the retro liveries they are honouring the two largest carriers that came together to form the modern company (BEA and BOAC); the first liv...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:03 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: BA’s 777-200ER replacement?
Replies: 143
Views: 22172

Re: BA’s 777-200ER replacement?

Why all this desire to replace an aircraft BA is investing in for a 30 year service life? The 777-200 fleet is also being rationalised to two layouts - one four class and one three class (the latter with ten-abreast in World Traveller). BA's current plans over the next five years are to introduce th...

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by FlyCaledonian
Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA resize FA crew bases - grow DFW + LAX, shrink PHX + STL
Replies: 62
Views: 11741

Re: AA resize FA crew bases - grow DFW + LAX, shrink PHX + STL

Out of interest where are the AA crew bases located?

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn’t DL, AA, and CO order the 747-400?
Replies: 50
Views: 9591

Re: Why didn’t DL, AA, and CO order the 747-400?

Max Q is actually correct. CO was thinking about reacquiring some 747's in the late 90's. I am not sure what model. They saw a need for a few of their high volume routes such as IAH-London, IAH-HNL for instance. But for reasons listed they didn't do it. Since CO was considering bringing it back, th...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't AA order the 73G?
Replies: 25
Views: 4712

Re: Why didn't AA order the 73G?

When AA signed the 20-year deal with Boeing in the last 1990s, the plan was to replace the 727-200s with the 737-800s, while the MD-80s would be replaced with 737-700s. It wasn't certain as the to replacement plan for the F100s, because the 737-600 simply didn't work on routes other than long, thin...

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by FlyCaledonian
Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:30 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Out of control number of ridiculous, total fantasy, duplicate & self answering threads recently
Replies: 28
Views: 2985

Re: Out of control number of ridiculous, total fantasy, duplicate & self answering threads recently

Maybe a couple of new sub-forums would be useful - routes/timetables, airline news (pinned, alphabetical order for major carriers) and history/nostalgia. I participate in another transport forum that has a these sub-forums and it does help divert some of the more "specialist" topics out of...

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