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by iamlucky13
Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIA A320 (flight PK8303) crashes in Karachi
Replies: 730
Views: 152749

Re: PIA A320 (flight PK8303) crashes in Karachi

Thanks whiplash for the detailed explanation and first hand knowledge. I am with those here who have said "I can't believe they actually got the plane back up". Out of the dozens of errors these pilots made, that last one was the truly fatal one. That was initially surprising to me, too, ...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1289
Views: 244279

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Emirates COO saying it’s not clear if Boeing would deliver the 777X next year. Has something come up? Although he says they are not tin talks to cancel any orders. https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/06/25/business/25reuters-health-coronavirus-emirates-airline.html I'd say that there's 3 possible ...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1289
Views: 244279

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

How many test flight hours are required for certification? I expect it is more successfully completing all of the various testing milestones than raw accumulation of hours, though some milestones will require certain minimum flight hours (the ETOPS testing, for example). Yes. The flight tests demon...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First electrical airplane in the world certified !
Replies: 53
Views: 6878

Re: First electrical airplane in the world certified !

Not quite true on the density part (I'm not even going to touch the climate change denial) - if we could somehow magically have a battery with equal energy density to jet fuel, the electric aircraft would have a much longer range. This is because electric motors are way, way more efficient at turni...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Seattle Times: Alaska Air prepares to shrink and shed thousands of jobs
Replies: 24
Views: 12030

Re: Seattle Times: Alaska Air prepares to shrink and shed thousands of jobs

With an overall downturn how do we see PAE faring with capacity cuts? Would be a shame to see service reductions to such a new operation. It has been cut significantly more than other locations, but the airport was doing generally well before the pandemic hit. I'm confident they'll bring most or al...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Seattle Times: Alaska Air prepares to shrink and shed thousands of jobs
Replies: 24
Views: 12030

Re: Seattle Times: Alaska Air prepares to shrink and shed thousands of jobs

With an overall downturn how do we see PAE faring with capacity cuts? Would be a shame to see service reductions to such a new operation. It has been cut significantly more than other locations, but the airport was doing generally well before the pandemic hit. I'm confident they'll bring most or al...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747
Replies: 327
Views: 49055

Re: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747

Question: why doesn't Boeing (re)sell 4 of these 6 to Volga-Dnepr? Like "OK guys, you didn't pay for this one on time so we had to sell it to someone else, but since now you finally want all 4 that you've originally ordered AND have the money, we are going to build them for you"? Why woul...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus threatens to sue airlines
Replies: 104
Views: 20138

Re: Airbus threatens to sue airlines

You have a pessimistic prognostic, and you may well be proved right. But the USA and the EU are opening up, and passenger numbers as well. I believe that in the last week we Americans have decided, enough lockdown already. The USA is opening up, but for how long? The United States reported 21,614 n...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing to close 777x and 787 order before month-end
Replies: 140
Views: 33817

Re: Boeing to close 777x and 787 order before month-end

Antarius wrote:
Also as Stitch said above, this is more than a rumour.


Right. This isn't the usual "sources who wish to remain anonymous." This is one of the parties of the contract that is being negotiated stating in a court filing that they are working on such a contract.

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by iamlucky13
Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing to close 777x and 787 order before month-end
Replies: 140
Views: 33817

Re: Boeing to close 777x and 787 order before month-end

There is some guy Dominic gates that seems to believe or “confirm” that it’s not EVA. I guess my money would be on Saudia or Turkish then... https://twitter.com/dominicgates/status/1269049171505377282 I think it’s EVA Air. An eva air pilot seems to have heard a rumour as well that its them https://...

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by iamlucky13
Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aerion moves forward with supersonic AS2 for 2024, unveils new final design
Replies: 113
Views: 16722

Re: Aerion moves forward with supersonic AS2 for 2024, unveils new final design

My gut feeling is that this project has a reasonable chance of success while the Boom one is precarious. Of the two, this one isn't entirely dependent on relaxation of the long standing ban of supersonic flight over U.S. soil. And it could be profitable in a limited market of maybe 200 units or eve...

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by iamlucky13
Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus threatens to sue airlines
Replies: 104
Views: 20138

Re: Airbus threatens to sue airlines

Didn’t Qatar Airways say it would stop buying from Airbus/Boeing if they didn’t accept deferrals? Then that leaves who as a supplier? The used market. It would be worse for Airbus and Boeing if airlines like QR started unloading their fleets onto the used market. Values would fall like a brick. How...

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by iamlucky13
Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SpaceX Starlink Satellites / Internet during flights
Replies: 16
Views: 2667

Re: SpaceX Starlink Satellites / Internet during flights

Not to diminish the amazing achievement that Starlink is. For those in remote areas, Starlink will be a significant upgrade to available connectivity and cost. I do expect Starlink to have some issues with capacity in some of the congested area (Europe, NE North America, etc) due to the density of ...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SpaceX Starlink Satellites / Internet during flights
Replies: 16
Views: 2667

Re: SpaceX Starlink Satellites / Internet during flights

32andBelow wrote:
What’s the point if you don’t just get worldwide wifi?


For serving areas where these is no wired infrastructure and limited ground-based wireless infrastructure.

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aerion moves forward with supersonic AS2 for 2024, unveils new final design
Replies: 113
Views: 16722

Re: Aerion moves forward with supersonic AS2 for 2024, unveils new final design

I used to think this was a bad idea (same for Boom) because of environmental concern, and image issues (I'm rich, look). Now I think it could be worse than that, and even hurt regular private jets, shining a bad light on the whole concept of rich people polluting like crazy with no regards for the ...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SpaceX Starlink Satellites / Internet during flights
Replies: 16
Views: 2667

Re: SpaceX Starlink Satellites / Internet during flights

Does starlink will use KU nor KA Bands? According to a couple FCC filings I just looked up, the Wikipedia article on Starlink is correct that they will use both Ka and Ku, but mostly Ku. I also see some mentions of V-band in Wikipedia, but that's not in the two documents I happen to be looking at n...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q2 2020
Replies: 607
Views: 56241

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, May 2020

Where is Boeing going to park these new frames? Pre Covid-19 they had already started using the staff car park. I'm sure they're starting by squeezing them as much as possible on land they already own or lease, and that is close to where they have operations to make in-storage maintenance, as well ...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aerion moves forward with supersonic AS2 for 2024, unveils new final design
Replies: 113
Views: 16722

Re: Aerion moves forward with supersonic AS2 for 2024, unveils new final design

There is a little more information out about the Affinity Engine today: https://www.flightglobal.com/engines/ge-refines-affinity-supersonic-engine-plans-for-2020-performance-tests/138508.article Key points: * Hundreds of engineers working on the project, with significant growth planned in the number...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aerion moves forward with supersonic AS2 for 2024, unveils new final design
Replies: 113
Views: 16722

Re: Aerion moves forward with supersonic AS2 for 2024, unveils new final design

I'm highly amused that 2 months into the COVID-19 being a global crisis, with signs it might be possible to start relaxing at least the most severe restrictions in roughly another month in some areas, and potentially for the widespread distribution of a vaccine in 12-18 months, how many different d...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aerion moves forward with supersonic AS2 for 2024, unveils new final design
Replies: 113
Views: 16722

Re: Aerion moves forward with supersonic AS2 for 2024, unveils new final design

I really like the new look, but I'm a little stunned by the realization of how large the overall aircraft is compared to the cabin. Looks like I'm missing something. They basically show a complete new plane - new wing layout, new engine mount, new inlets - but want to keep the schedule and deliver i...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing reshapes leadership, signals production cut
Replies: 25
Views: 6433

Re: Boeing reshapes leadership, signals production cut

At what point does Boeing consider consolidating all 787 production into a single factory? I assume 10 a month production is still enough to keep PAE & CHS lines open, but what rate is the tipping point? I doubt they've worked that out yet. Unfortunately (depending which state one has closer ti...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing to Restart Washington State Aircraft Production
Replies: 144
Views: 19000

Re: Boeing to Restart Washington State Aircraft Production

The working population has a greater chance of dying in a car crash to and from work than they are to catch and then die from the virus. The worry is that enough people get sick that they overwhelm the healthcare system. And that doesn't need to be a significant number of people. Look at Italy - 18...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:51 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Which aircraft types have best advantage for social distancing?
Replies: 27
Views: 2133

Re: Which aircraft types have best advantage for social distancing?

The Bede BD-5 clearly has the best advantage due to features it shares with a relatively limited number of other aircraft. The US Air Force also has several aircraft with similar arrangements that protect against biological threats. :D Humidity may play a role in transmission effectiveness. There ha...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36292

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Actually this is a very good plane for efficient type social distancing to a certain extent. IMHO. New planes for anyone are not in the cards right now or the near future. By the time it is ready for EIS, there should be some sense of clarity of the state of air travel and petroleum prices over the...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 154408

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

I feel that, unless Boeing can find a way to target something that's roughly the size of the 757-200/300, and make it as carbon fiber intense as the 787, and also include another generational improvement in the engine efficiency department, while keeping the wings small enough to fit all the existi...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing to Restart Washington State Aircraft Production
Replies: 144
Views: 19000

Re: Boeing to Stop Washington State Aircraft Production

Folks, isn`t it a wise thing to do at this moment ? What Boeing will gain if thousands of there high skilled workers die ? Nothing at all ! I'd say there are pros and cons to a shutdown (economic hardships lead to health risks, too), but if in doubt, being overly conservative about reducing exposur...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Financial Discussion 2020
Replies: 432
Views: 59915

Re: Boeing in Crisis

This article blames Boeing's current cash crunch crisis on its $43 billion stock buybacks over the last six years. https://wolfstreet.com/2020/01/20/after-blowing-43-bn-on-share-buybacks-in-6-years-boeing-scrambles-to-borrow-10-bn-on-top-of-the-9-5-bn-credit-line-it-got-in-oct-to-fund-the-surging-c...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:32 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Not allowed to film or take photos in flight
Replies: 135
Views: 19647

Re: Not allowed to film or take photos in flight

There have been past threads about in-flight photography. I don't have time to search them up currently, but I think the gist of it was to comply with lawful flight crew instructions and avoid capturing anyone in an identifiable manner unless you have their permission. Also, prior to 2017, all elect...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1289
Views: 244279

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

It remains a boring twin, all look the same from a distance.. Maybe you should get closer so you can appreciate the subtle differences. The wings on this bird are beautiful! The wings on the 777X are indeed beautiful, as are the engines, but she is not wearing a crown. The 747, in part because of t...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus - blended wing aircraft code name Maveric
Replies: 104
Views: 15025

Re: Airbus - blended wing aircraft code name Maveric

Bingo. Along with evac - and of course pressurising the thing. But if the latter two can be worked around with design, the first is intrinsic to the concept. How do you avoid passengers falling ill as a result of manoeuvres? How bad the effect really is? I would think it's not as bad as some people...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1289
Views: 244279

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

I repeat, point me to where the recommendations have been made into requirements, Keesje said it you seem to double down on it. Par13del, point out where I said that. “We’re taking the lessons learned from the 737 Max and applying them to the 777X to ensure we are as prepared as possible for 777X c...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1289
Views: 244279

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Now doing race track pattern north of Spokane.. https://www.flightradar24.com/BOE001/23b0deaf The ground speed was under 150kts (sometimes as low as 100) for the last 10 minutes with altitude fluctuations. Are they doing stall tests? I suppose it would be preferable to expand the low speed envelope...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110689

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash in

I am really sorry for everybody on that flight. What is the cosr of Garmin pilot for i-pad? 200 dollars? I sail and I have my charts on every device I have. I am having difficulties to comprehend this. My basic version was 60-70 bucks a year , but then again on an iPad it would need to be hooked up...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1289
Views: 244279

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

It was pushed to tomorrow due to weather. Just to clarify, it is officially confirmed as cancelled for today. It is not yet confirmed that they will plan again tomorrow versus a later day. The rain should be much lighter tomorrow, but it will be moderately windy. It is officially scheduled by Boein...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1289
Views: 244279

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

What time is the first flight today? It was pushed to tomorrow due to weather. Just to clarify, it is officially confirmed as cancelled for today. It is not yet confirmed that they will plan again tomorrow versus a later day. The rain should be much lighter tomorrow, but it will be moderately windy.

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by iamlucky13
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1289
Views: 244279

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Thursday 10 AM PST - exact date and time planned for the first flight according to Dj's Aviation (reliable news) internal source. Of course might change because of weather or other issues. Fingers crossed! Forecast is not promising - Weather Channel says: Rain. High 53F. Winds SSE at 10 to 20 mph. ...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1289
Views: 244279

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

If you think about it though, it might be easier to make a lighter plane fly like a heavier plane by making it more sluggish using software than it would be the reverse. :scratchchin: bt In fact, since F=ma, if the wing loading and geometry, control surface loading, thrust to weight, and balance ar...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1289
Views: 244279

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Thursday 10 AM PST - exact date and time planned for the first flight according to Dj's Aviation (reliable news) internal source. Of course might change because of weather or other issues. Fingers crossed! Weather may affect the time I can't remember if the cause was waiting on a certain cloud ceil...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1289
Views: 244279

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Something that may prove relevant as more information comes out: the current weather forecast for Thursday is poor, although the Weather Channel's forecast is better than the National Weather Service's. It doesn't bode well for any visibilty requirements they may have for first flight, and it won't ...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Was the Learjet 85 a training exercise for the C Series?
Replies: 4
Views: 1199

Re: Was the Learjet 85 a training exercise for the C Series?

Post 44 that you mention is one of the most significant signs that the Learjet 85 and the CSeries were not closely related. The composite honeycomb sandwich fuselage of the Learjet 85 was a radical departure from conventional structures, and it ultimately became clear it was not radical in a good wa...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2713
Views: 289373

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

For purposes of clarity.... The USA never accepted legal blame or apologized to Iran re: Flt 655. The Vincennes "strong" crew shot down an Iranian pax A300 over Iranian International Waters in broad daylight. Furthermore the target the Vincennes "strong" crew believed the A300 t...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2713
Views: 289373

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

According to international journalists who have visited the crash site, the place has now been cleared of wreckage. https://mobile.twitter.com/elizapalmer/status/1215525563961630720 https://mobile.twitter.com/elizapalmer I am extremely disappointed to learn that. I criticized the reports yesterday ...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2713
Views: 289373

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-bulldozers-ukrainian-jet-crash-site-complicate-investigation-2020-1 Press and eyewitnesses are reporting that Iranian bulldozers are clearing the flight 752 crash site, destroying vital evidence for crash investigators. .... The link you post does not show that....

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2713
Views: 289373

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-bulldozers-ukrainian-jet-crash-site-complicate-investigation-2020-1 Press and eyewitnesses are reporting that Iranian bulldozers are clearing the flight 752 crash site, destroying vital evidence for crash investigators. Iran's Civil Aviation Organization has pub...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2713
Views: 289373

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Wouldn't the plane still have lights on? Why don't we see the plane? And why does a guy just happen to have his cell phone centered on the strike? Looks like he was walking his dog and probably heard a missile launch so he quickly took a video and then barely caught the impact. Someone wrote, that ...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2713
Views: 289373

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

It's a cheap flight operated by a Ukranian company from Tehran to Canada but with a stop in Kiev. This flight is very popular with Iranians Canadians going to see family in Iran And the 73 so called Canadians are in fact Iranian born naturalized Canadians living in Canada. So basically, you could s...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2713
Views: 289373

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

You are talking about a completely different flash. And what is the first thing to see? I see a dark sky and at the right side a flash and after that huge flames. What do you see? Huge flames immediately? I see: ⋅ 0 s: nothing relevant ⋅ 5 s: Apparently flaming object (5-10 pixe...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2713
Views: 289373

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

The biggest red flag remains Iran saying it was a mechanical within minutes of the crash. What legit investigative body would do that? Bloomberg paraphrased as follows: "The head of Tehran’s Disaster Mitigation and Management Organization, Mansour Darajati, said early assessments suggest the c...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2713
Views: 289373

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

https://twitter.com/alhadath/status/1214758196511985664?s=21 Accidentally shot down by an Iranian missile by this source. While I find this explanation completely plausible (with multiple precedents including Malaysian Air 17, Iran Air 655, and Korean Air 007 and 902), I have no confidence at all t...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1289
Views: 244279

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Still wondering if Boeing will publicly announce a first flight target date or keep with their "employees only" notices like the Max 10 rollout ? Hopefully public. First flight is perhaps the biggest milestone in any new aircraft program, and it's relatively disconnected from the MAX trou...

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