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by iamlucky13
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boom Overture? Evolutionary, Revolutionary, or Aviation dead end?
Replies: 42
Views: 4038

Re: Boom Overture? Evolutionary, Revolutionary, or Aviation dead end?

There are still plenty of airlines, like JAL that have invested into Boom, offer more than 55 premium seats in at least some of their aircrafts. (1) The average ticket price these premium passengers pay (keeping in mind all the upgraders and mile-users) would still be way below what would be needed...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boom Overture? Evolutionary, Revolutionary, or Aviation dead end?
Replies: 42
Views: 4038

Re: Boom Overture? Evolutionary, Revolutionary, or Aviation dead end?

The thing is using 5 times as much fuel in a time where we need to cut our carbon emissions as much as possible is incredibly irresponsible and damaging for the environment Where did your five times figure come from? Are you comparing to economy seat footprints? That is not an apt comparison unless...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boom Overture? Evolutionary, Revolutionary, or Aviation dead end?
Replies: 42
Views: 4038

Re: Boom Overture? Evolutionary, Revolutionary, or Aviation dead end?

No booms over land. Period. I don't see the reasoning behind such a statement. Why not no bus noise on land? Period? Or no children noisily playing?Period? That's because a single coast-to-coast flight would benefit a handful of people, while it would effectively disturb millions of people. Period....

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by iamlucky13
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boom Overture? Evolutionary, Revolutionary, or Aviation dead end?
Replies: 42
Views: 4038

Re: Boom Overture? Evolutionary, Revolutionary, or Aviation dead end?

No booms over land. Period. I don't see the reasoning behind such a statement. Why not no bus noise on land? Period? Or no children noisily playing?Period? Policy should be based on noise level at the ground, additionally adjusting for the fact that punctuated noises can be more disturbing than noi...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Washington State Thread - 2019
Replies: 190
Views: 22190

Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

I heard a rumor from someone (who didn't seem that knowledgeable to me) that Alaska wants to use the 737 from PAE to Hawaii. I asked which island, assuming it would either be Maui or Oahu. She didn't know, but thought it was reallocating (if that is even the right word) the Hawaii flight(s) from Be...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Missile launcher found in baggage at BWI
Replies: 44
Views: 6934

Re: Missile launcher found in baggage at BWI

Here's what TSA says: Rocket Launcher Carry-on bags: No Checked Bags: No There are some less restrictive categories you could propose it under since it's expended, such as a part of a gun or firearm (allowed in checked baggage with special instructions) or even a shell casing (Allowed in checked bag...

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by iamlucky13
Mon May 06, 2019 8:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Something wrong with Boeing's safety culture?
Replies: 293
Views: 35593

Re: Something wrong with Boeing's safety culture?

For this tread I wanted to look at the safety culture within Boeing. There seem to be multiple of issues involving Boeing safety culture. So that's why I am asking if it is systemic problem. The MAX will be fixed, sure, and will be a fine aircraft. Safety, as with everything, is in the end a compro...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service
Replies: 240
Views: 35469

Re: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service

A minor piece of news that should help support PAE traffic: It looks like Marriott is making plans for a hotel near the terminal. https://myeverettnews.com/2019/04/28/two-marrott-branded-hotels-and-parkfly-proposed-by-paine-field/ The described location is about 1.5 miles from the terminal. I presum...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service
Replies: 240
Views: 35469

Re: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service

Does anyone know how the load factors and advance bookings are doing for the PAE flights? I was curious as well, and found this link in a past discussion. It looks like it will be a few more months before it has data on Paine Field flights, since the latest data is currently from January. It sounds...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing' s Trouble: Claims of Shoddy Production Draw Scrutiny to a Second Boeing Jet
Replies: 117
Views: 25928

Re: Boeing' s Trouble: Claims of Shoddy Production Draw Scrutiny to a Second Boeing Jet

Ben Rich said in his autobiography that they designed pocket-less coveralls for workers because they were constantly dropping tools inside the planes they were building at Skunk Works. I’ve heard of an Ohio Class submarine that had an extension ladder left in one of the trim tanks. This happens eve...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OSM Aviation orders 60 all-electric planes
Replies: 55
Views: 5352

Re: OSM Aviation orders 60 all-electric planes

I am skeptic. First of all, how long does it take to charge these birds? Second, a 90kW engine with 70kW continuous. 70kW is comparable to a Cessna150, just that thing is like 50% heavier. Then a 92kWh battery capacity. 3.5 hour endurance. Something clearly doesn't add up. That sounds like many of ...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OSM Aviation orders 60 all-electric planes
Replies: 55
Views: 5352

Re: OSM Aviation orders 60 all-electric planes

If planes are going to be Electric in the future, just like cars, where is all the Electricity coming from?. A power plant. Hopefully a renewable one. But even if it wasn’t renewable the fossil fuel Power plant is much more efficient than the motor in your car or plane. Have any of you electric car...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Using The A320 Between Paine Field (Everett, Washington) & San Francisco?
Replies: 28
Views: 5150

Re: Alaska Airlines Using The A320 Between Paine Field (Everett, Washington) & San Francisco?

And .. tell me again .. why does Seattle need to be served by2 separate airports? It doesn't "need" to be served by 2 airports. But there is a strong case to make that enough demand is there to support a secondary airport in the region. SEA traffic will almost certainly grow this year by ...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777-9 roll out delayed (originally planned for 13 Mar)
Replies: 207
Views: 47013

Re: Boeing 777-9 roll out delayed (originally planned for 13 Mar)

It is interesting that most buildings have solar heat gain coatings that have a light transmittance between 30 & 70%, nobody seems to complain as the view is still quite good. In the desert one would select a coating close to the 30% to reduce the AC load in the building. You are talking about ...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777-9 roll out delayed (originally planned for 13 Mar)
Replies: 207
Views: 47013

Re: Boeing 777-9 roll out delayed (originally planned for 13 Mar)

I am not quite sure I get this... could someone please explain the landing gear config. on the A350 and 777-9? see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2cxEndx-Q0 NLG doors on the A350 are two paired sets. The smaller rear one stays open to have the gear leg stick out the larger set reaching forward t...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The folding wings of the B777-9
Replies: 92
Views: 18465

Re: The folding wings of the B777-9

Imagine the cost of replacing these when they slice into the tail of another aircraft or the wind of another aicraft and it clean rips them off at the "hinge" looking part. It will happen at some point, just when and where. Yes, it will probably happen. It will be expensive to fix, but so...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777-9 roll out delayed (originally planned for 13 Mar)
Replies: 207
Views: 47013

Re: Boeing 777-9 roll out delayed (originally planned for 13 Mar)

Big arrays of LED's. In case you miss a few posts below yours, the lighting under the wheel well is dark, but you can see a pair of lights here: https://i.ibb.co/XShJCNK/20190313-111738.jpg so the front gear doors stay open full length? ( do I rightly remember the A350 thingies to be segmented and ...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777-9 roll out delayed (originally planned for 13 Mar)
Replies: 207
Views: 47013

Re: Boeing 777-9 roll out delayed (originally planned for 13 Mar)

I wonder if the "smallish" size is to allow for flyability with the wingtips removed (either as a MEL with whatever drag, weight & takeoff performance penalty that's appropriate...or if necessary an empty ferry flight) if a MX issue comes up? As far as I know, they're as small as they...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777-9 roll out delayed (originally planned for 13 Mar)
Replies: 207
Views: 47013

Re: Boeing 777-9 roll out delayed (originally planned for 13 Mar)

Too bad we'll probably be seeing those wingtips up a lot because they're ugly. Hold your tongue sir! Will they finally have LED landing lights or do they stick to halogen bulbs? It's hard to see on the pictures. Big arrays of LED's. In case you miss a few posts below yours, the lighting under the w...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tourist Helicopter crashes into glacier (Video)
Replies: 12
Views: 3363

Re: Tourist Helicopter crashes into glacier (Video)

Thin air, potentially gusty wind conditions, and very rough terrain to land on. Those are difficult conditions. The KG 24 articles linked above and others on the same site suggest the helicopter was pushed sideways by a gust. I suppose it might not have had enough lift to spare for the gusty conditi...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716331

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

My understanding is that the FAA has not mandated grounding the MAX, in fact, they could be seen to be recommending continued operations. The FAA has not made a recommendation one way or the other. They are allowing the status quo (the MAX is allowed to operate) while they get their investigation s...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716331

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

Here is my take: there is a design fault in the 737MAX MCAS that manifests itself only under certain malfunctions (invalid AoA value). There is a pilot memory item that will disable MCAS under those malfunctions. However, it is not good practice to circumvent design faults by memory items. Boeing w...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716331

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

MCAS has a known defect, but with a known cause and resolution. This addresses the known aircraft related factors for the Lion Air crash. The resolution isn't worth the paper it's written on if it isn't practical in real-life. It's the difference between "let's practice disabling MCAS" in...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716331

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

What I find most alarming here is the persistent attitude from Boeing apologists (of which I typically am one!) that, "We don't KNOW what happened yet, therefore there's no reason to disrupt anyone's day by grounding the fleet." We grounded the 787 after two battery incidents which result...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1727
Views: 387498

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

I wish they’d release the security tape from that Jail sooner than later. Hmmm, I don’t expect much information from that video. Most probably you will just see an aircraft nosediving but I cannot imagine you will see the reason for the nosedive... similar to the video footage of the B737 crash in ...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019
Replies: 640
Views: 166473

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

Great to know!! Is Mr Rainier always snow-capped? Either way, some of the testing will occur during winter and all should be good. Yes, Mt. Rainier has +14000ft elevation and is snow capped year round. If flight test starts about a month after roll out, in April, you will still have snow on much of...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019
Replies: 640
Views: 166473

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

They'll do a picture in front of Mt. Rainier. They always do.

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by iamlucky13
Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service
Replies: 240
Views: 35469

Re: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service

Nice photos courtesy of The Seattle Times here: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/paine-fields-new-passenger-terminal-getting-final-touches-before-commercial-flights-start/ It looks like some of them have been published before, and there's nothing significantly different from what we've see...

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by iamlucky13
Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service
Replies: 240
Views: 35469

Re: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service

Where are you going? International trip for work. I'd rather not discuss details, but even SEA would have at least one connection. To be honest, SEA probably will be the better option for this trip, but I'm going to at least check if connecting from PAE through Denver provides similar convenience t...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service
Replies: 240
Views: 35469

Re: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service

Flights start just in time for anyone who wants to fly in to see the 777X rollout. March is a very noteworthy month for this low-volume airport. My first potential trip from PAE would be in April. There's no direct flights to where I'll be going, but I don't think there are from SEA, either. Where ...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service
Replies: 240
Views: 35469

Re: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service

Flights start just in time for anyone who wants to fly in to see the 777X rollout. March is a very noteworthy month for this low-volume airport.

My first potential trip from PAE would be in April. There's no direct flights to where I'll be going, but I don't think there are from SEA, either.

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by iamlucky13
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic 787 hits 801mph over Pennsylvania
Replies: 39
Views: 13102

Re: Virgin Atlantic 787 hits 801mph over Pennsylvania

24Whiskey wrote:
Just flew a westbound flight this morning with 200 knot headwinds over Toronto. Doing about 275 ground speed in a CR9...


Wow! Even if you can't reasonably route around the jet stream, I would have expected with that kind of headwind, it should be worth the drag penalty to drop below it.

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by iamlucky13
Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First B777-9X of LH in PAE now
Replies: 94
Views: 22795

Re: First B777-9X of LH in PAE now

Why does Boeing (and Airbus?) produce customer AC so fast after test AC? You'd think they'd have to work the bugs out of the test AC before wanting to start on customer AC... Remember LN 1435 of the B748 line... You are training a production line. You can’t build three and go home for 6 months. Tra...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019
Replies: 640
Views: 166473

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

They may have been either skeleton crew or closed the last few days, huge snow event. Moderate snow at best...but in a place that has no snow plows for roads and drivers that can’t drive in it. Sorry, always laugh at descriptions of snow events on the west coast or down south as someone from the Mi...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 747-8 Currently Cash Positive?
Replies: 163
Views: 20343

Re: 747-8 Currently Cash Positive?

And it also depends on the range that is needed. Extra range capability means higher zero fuel weight to enable the the plane to carry more fuel to fly further. UPS would rather stop over at ANC with a 748F than fly nonstop from China on a 777F. Given their role as a package carrier, they need more...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing monopoly on the VLA market?
Replies: 94
Views: 10538

Re: Boeing monopoly on the VLA market?

like the A380 destroyed the 747... It did. The last EVER passenger delivery of a 747 was almost two years ago. With 36 sold to airlines the A380 outsold the 747-8i 7 to 1. While the A380 was a part of it, I've always taken the 777, and then later 777X and A350 as even bigger factors holding back 74...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170845

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Let Embraer handle he 70-150 seat market instead. It's not like B737MAX7 sell well recently. The 737 has been selling quite well recently. For the last decade, orders have exceeded deliveries every single year except 2009 (recession), with a total of 7384 orders to 4588 deliveries. Last year it was...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: Airbus announces A380 production to end in 2021
Replies: 870
Views: 104917

Re: [Rumor] Airbus to announce end of A380 production

Having grown up in Boeing territory, and at a time when the 747 had been well-established as the Queen of the Skies, I've always hoped the 747 outlives the A380, but I was never eager for either to go out of production. The reality that the A380 might be ending production soon is very disappointing ...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170845

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

No it's not. The 787-3 carried all most of the heavy bits from the 787-8. None of it was optimised for the short range mission. A clean sheet design would have had: A smaller landing gear. Fully scaled down engines instead of a derate. A smaller tail due to lower engine thrust. Proper scaled down h...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:33 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: PAE An-124 Spoolup
Replies: 10
Views: 2253

Re: PAE An-124 Spoolup

https://www.pprune.org/tech-log/273290- ... e-t-o.html
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Yes, I have also noticed the An-124's at PAE sit for several minutes spooled up. I suppose the relatively cold weather may have led to a longer warm up today.

I found some further discussion here:
https://www.pprune.org/tech-log/273290- ... e-t-o.html

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by iamlucky13
Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service
Replies: 240
Views: 35469

Re: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service

I noticed the developers of the terminal have been rebuilding most of the Snohomish County Airport/Paine Field office building just next to the terminal. I've since learned they've taken it over and it will be the terminal's ground transportation building. https://flypainefield.com/about/parking ht...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170845

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

I haven't checked first tier suppliers, but I have periodically looked at Boeing's listings for hints. I see a higher rate of listings relative to current headcount in South Carolina vs. Washington, but not enough that I'm at all inclined to draw conclusions from it. I say this especially since the...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170845

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Could they use part of the 777x lrip line? Expect Boeing to keep their considerations on this topic private as long as practically possible. Uncertainty about work location decisions or even preferences is a demonstrated tactic for gaining tax incentives, union contract concessions, or other benefi...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170845

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Hi Does anyone have any idea where they would build the 797? I imagine not at Renton but maybe at Everett on the 767 production line? Could they use part of the 777x lrip line? Expect Boeing to keep their considerations on this topic private as long as practically possible. Uncertainty about work l...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 728
Views: 93979

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

PAE was delayed it appears (govt shutdown?) AS LAS-PAE FEB 0.5>0[0] AS LAS-PDX JUN 3>4[3] JUL 3>4[3] AUG 3>4[3] SEP 3>4[3] OCT 3>4[3] AS LAS-SEA JUN 9>8[9] JUL 9>8[9] AUG 9>8[9] AS LAX-PAE FEB 1.8>0[0] AS PAE-PDX FEB 1.3>0[0] AS PAE-PHX FEB 0.4>0[0] AS PAE-SAN FEB 0.7>0[0] AS PAE-SFO FEB 1.1>0[0] M...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Passenger suing United for shattered windscreen and fear it caused
Replies: 91
Views: 14666

Re: Passenger suing United for shattered windscreen and fear it caused

The lawsuit definitely reads more like the opening to dime store novels than most: https://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2019/01/23/16052088/United%20Complaint.pdf SUMMARY OF ALLEGATIONS This is the story of how United’s negligence nearly resulted in the loss of all life aboard United Airlines Flight 931 on...

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by iamlucky13
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 595814

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Tuesday sounds pretty fast. Hopefully someone will leak some details! Hopefully not. Leaks are highly unlikely to aid the investigation and could be a distraction that hinders it, or inappropriately influences the expectations of policy makers who should be relying on information from the investiga...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 595814

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

And any rebuttal that doesn't explain how another theory is more plausible is best ignored. If you're going to pick at details of an elementary example of how the ValuJet crash is not a good comparison, let's see some real science. Please do. Replicate the crash. Explain to us how this crash had th...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 595814

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Some of these shallow water impact craters are amazingly deep, go look at the writeups on the recovery of the Valujet everglades crash ... pieces of that airplane ended up way, way underneath the bottom of the swamp (after going through several feet of water). High speeds will do that. Front end pu...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service
Replies: 240
Views: 35469

Re: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service

I will definitely take a 2 or 3 day turn on an AS non stop out of Phoenix. Are there hotels nearby? https://hiltongardeninn3.hilton.com/en/hotels/washington/hilton-garden-inn-seattle-north-everett-PAEWAGI/index.html Hilton Garden Inn is right on the north flightline by the approach to 16R. Decent p...

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