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by iamlucky13
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 358
Views: 55751

Re: PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service News and Discussion Thread

So I reached out to a reliable WN source asked if WN would entertain PAE again? The answer was a HARD NO! Apparently AW head of WN network planning felt the airport terminal had to many short comings like Lack of passengers parking areas,Terminal was too small to accommodate the everyone and The te...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 358
Views: 55751

Re: PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service News and Discussion Thread

AS also suspended PAE-LAX/PDX/SFO/SJC from the end of October to January according to the weekly OAG update July 6. As of a month ago, LAX, PDX, and SJC had already been dropped from their announced plans, but several previously unserved destinations were to be added. SFO was apparently still in th...

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by iamlucky13
Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant Air 161 "Flight From Hell" 17 Hrs LAS-SCK
Replies: 27
Views: 5420

Re: Allegiant Air 161 "Flight From Hell" 17 Hrs LAS-SCK

Yawn. This happens. The airlines can and should do better, but that's far from hellish, and many of us have been through domestic trips that get strung out into similar durations. Allegiant not only explained what was going on, but also gave them vouchers. Either of those alone would put the service...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 134
Views: 42448

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Yet another defect on 787 production, what in the world is going on at Boeing. Such a sad state this company is in, just horrific management. My goodness. https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-faces-new-dreamliner-production-problem-11626142306 When Boeing decides to be serious they should let us kno...

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by iamlucky13
Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2021
Replies: 618
Views: 123501

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2021

To me, an EIS beyond 2024 would in first instance raise the question of Boeing's ability to design new planes and get them certified. To me, that question is already on the table. How can you keep asking for a TIA at several meetings while the FAA is just requesting a proper fix… :banghead: Zeke po...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2021
Replies: 618
Views: 123501

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2021

It is most likely due to the issue that there was not an ADS-B receiver location on the ground within line of sight of the aircraft. The radio frequencies used for ADS-B are typically Line of sight limited. Ridiculous suggestion, it went dark over Oregon hundreds of ADS traces over that area from t...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FedEx firms options on 20 more 763Fs
Replies: 141
Views: 24657

Re: FedEx firms options on 20 more 763Fs

Stupid question here: Can a 772 or 77W get a retrofitted folding wing for Freight Operators? No..but an Airbus launch of the A350F with folding wingtips is not beyond the pale. UPS are a prime target, the technology is there. You would not need to change the wing - just fold it. Ive always believed...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FedEx firms options on 20 more 763Fs
Replies: 141
Views: 24657

Re: FedEx firms options on 20 more 763Fs

So how does this work with the talking points that the 767 cannot operate after 20XX due to emissions controls, are these late builds exempt, I thought it was the engines. Frames in service may remain in service. New frames will not be able to enter service, as it will be forbidden to issue airwort...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Washington State Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 181
Views: 20947

Re: Washington State Aviation Thread - 2021

I had forgotten that SEA wants to extend the N-concourse. Options are limited due to space. Some crazy long term ideas: More landfill on the westside and move cargo there, freeing up east cargo for passenger use. I assume the cemetery land is off limits but don't know enough about that. Build new t...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Washington State Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 181
Views: 20947

Re: Washington State Aviation Thread - 2021

It will be interesting if anything gets developed within the next decade or so. Paine Field took a decade to develop a very low level of service (capacity equal to 2.5% of regional volume) at an airport that already had an amply-sized runway. I hold zero expectation of major expansion of any airpor...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 787 Paint adhesion issues
Replies: 16
Views: 6337

Re: 787 Paint adhesion issues

And the A220, and the 777X? Do a search, the A350 has had it's issues already with the wing surface under the paint, doesn't mean every new aircraft will suffer from this, and i dont think it's a safety issue. Could it be a carbon wing issue? Yes, the FAA link hayzel777 posted above indicates it is...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 2145
Views: 227622

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

I’d love to see Boeing put the engineers back in charge. Maybe the accountants have been running the show for too long. There seems to be absolutely no vision at the company that I can see. I’ve flown Boeing’s best products for years and this era makes me pretty sad. Engineers building what enginee...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders supersonic planes from Boom (was: Big United Announcement Coming Up?)
Replies: 455
Views: 61153

Re: United orders supersonic planes from Boom (was: Big United Announcement Coming Up?)

To the 2707, it was cancelled in 1971 after several attempts by Nixon to save it. What did for it was not an enhanced business nous, it was that wildly over ambitious spec they drew up, Mach 3, later 2.7, meaning you could not use alloys like Aluminium, it would have to be expensive, hard to work a...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders supersonic planes from Boom (was: Big United Announcement Coming Up?)
Replies: 455
Views: 61153

Re: United orders supersonic planes from Boom (was: Big United Announcement Coming Up?)

So even starting with the existing high pressure parts, they were still in detailed design four years after launch with no prototypes yet constructed. Suggests to me it'd probably be at least an eight year overall time line to finish detailed design, get a prototype built, get some flight testing f...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders supersonic planes from Boom (was: Big United Announcement Coming Up?)
Replies: 455
Views: 61153

Re: United orders supersonic planes from Boom (was: Big United Announcement Coming Up?)

The article goes on to point out how when it was written this difference in fuel consumption didn't matter because BA was able to charge a such a premium for Concorde service that the cost of fuel was easy to bear. What's different now is Boom is saying they won't need such a premium, which IMO is ...

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by iamlucky13
Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders supersonic planes from Boom (was: Big United Announcement Coming Up?)
Replies: 455
Views: 61153

Re: United orders supersonic planes from Boom (was: Big United Announcement Coming Up?)

Seriously, wake us up when it actually happens. ;) Ok, you said "seriously," but I have to ask if you're really serious. Personally, I've got a fair amount of doubt this aircraft will enter service. But I'm still fascinated by the idea of faster, sleeker, higher-flying passenger aircraft....

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders supersonic planes from Boom (was: Big United Announcement Coming Up?)
Replies: 455
Views: 61153

Re: United orders supersonic planes from Boom (was: Big United Announcement Coming Up?)

Long live trimotors! Building an interested customer base will be a key part of securing all of the funding they need to keep this project moving forward. I still would not bet my money on their success, but this is a move in the right direction, and I'm excited by the news. It's also a single seat ...

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by iamlucky13
Fri May 28, 2021 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tim Clark: Emirates will refuse B777X delivery if not per contract
Replies: 298
Views: 38776

Re: Tim Clark: Emirates will refuse B777X delivery if not per contract

I don't think "we will refuse delivery if not per contract" is any new threat for Emirates. I similarly recall Qatar made a point of refusing delivery of their A350's, I think it was for months, until some seemingly minor issues were corrected. The significant part today is that it suits E...

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by iamlucky13
Wed May 26, 2021 11:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways CEO: “the A380 was our biggest mistake.”
Replies: 117
Views: 23909

Re: Qatar Airways CEO: “the A380 was our biggest mistake.”

Qatar is in the process of retiring half it's A380 fleet now, and planning the not-to-distant future retirement of the rest. At its peak, the A380 represented a small minority of Qatar's long haul seat count. Their most important competitor is still taking deliveries, and a good half or more of thei...

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by iamlucky13
Mon May 24, 2021 10:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Sonic Cruiser: was it a real attempt?
Replies: 14
Views: 3738

Re: Sonic Cruiser : a Boeing con ?

Youtube just recommended a video to me, I was not looking for it and don't know much about the youtuber but he makes good points. It's in French, you can use the autogenerated/translated closed captioning but I don't know how good it will be : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH3X2rM-LAM He starts b...

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by iamlucky13
Sat May 22, 2021 8:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 2145
Views: 227622

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

2035 is a long time to mature technology. Electric propulsion is rapidly improving. Battery energy density has been improving by nearly 5% per year for the last 20 years. In 10 years time density will be up nearly 50% and that is the point where a hybrid electric aircraft could fly up 1,000nm with ...

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by iamlucky13
Sat May 22, 2021 4:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Envoy (MQ) warned by FAA over "potential lack of airmanship"
Replies: 61
Views: 13282

Re: Envoy (MQ) warned by FAA over "potential lack of airmanship"

Anyways, it's not like the passengers could do anything with this kind of information. "Excuse me, flight attendant? I'm a little uncomfortable about the pilot saying he almost landed on the wrong runway. Is there another plane I can transfer to for the actual landing?" So just because th...

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by iamlucky13
Thu May 20, 2021 11:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 358
Views: 55751

Re: PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service News and Discussion Thread

So that will put AS at about 50% of flights compared to pre-pandemic, correct? Pre-pandemic, AS had 18 daily departures from PAE, and United had 6, so AS will be at 67%. I would expect United to add another flight or two by the time summer gets into full swing, but we'll see. The article I posted t...

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by iamlucky13
Thu May 20, 2021 9:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Envoy (MQ) warned by FAA over "potential lack of airmanship"
Replies: 61
Views: 13282

Re: Envoy (MQ) warned by FAA over "potential lack of airmanship"

I wouldn’t say this is special to Envoy. Flying a OO flight from DEN-ELP, the pilots lined up to land on the smaller/shorter 26R runway, and came quite close to doing so before tower told them they weren’t landing on the proper runway. I pulled the recording from LiveATC just to be sure. Pilots als...

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by iamlucky13
Thu May 20, 2021 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 358
Views: 55751

Re: PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service News and Discussion Thread

Another update on PAE flight schedules: Alaska currently runs 6 flights per day to 6 locations. They plan to increase to 12 flights per day to 8 locations by October. In June, there will be a slight decrease when Palm Springs is temporarily suspended due to expected low seasonal demand. Also in June...

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by iamlucky13
Fri May 14, 2021 5:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection
Replies: 238
Views: 53682

Re: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/faa-approves-boeings-fix-for-737-max-electrical-flaw-clearing-the-way-for-return-to-flight/ This article gives a deep dive. Honestly, the production change was so unnecessary because all it did was change the order in which they did things. I d...

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by iamlucky13
Thu May 13, 2021 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 2145
Views: 227622

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

The scalable comments go back a ways, at least to early last year: https://www.rolls-royce.com/media/press-releases/2020/11-02-2020-intelligentengine-rr-starts-manufacture-of-world-largest-fan-blades.aspx I take that as very general. If they make a ~40,000 lb thrust engine, I'm sure it will be its o...

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by iamlucky13
Sat May 08, 2021 4:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dassault to launch Falcon 10X
Replies: 63
Views: 11560

Re: Dassault to launch Falcon 10X

It looks ok, but really could use another engine. :D

If even Dassault won't grace the world with more trimotors, who else can we depend on?

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by iamlucky13
Thu May 06, 2021 12:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection
Replies: 238
Views: 53682

Re: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection

I see two possible readings of, "whether other just subsystems would be affected by the ground issue": (1) Whether a fault occurring due to improper grounding on one of the known 3 panels causes faults in other systems. Fix the grounding issue, and this concern is moot. I'm not sure why t...

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by iamlucky13
Wed May 05, 2021 6:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection
Replies: 238
Views: 53682

Re: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection

The information given so far, however, indicates a specific issue, and a specific fix. The latest objection raised has not been reported as an insufficiency in the fix or a question whether the same concern exists elsewhere (already answered affirmative, and included in the AD), but as concern over...

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by iamlucky13
Wed May 05, 2021 5:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection
Replies: 238
Views: 53682

Re: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection

I'm confused. That sounds like the kind of information they should want if Boeing was arguing it doesn't need fixing, or if there was a disagreement over whether or not to allow flights to continue prior to fixing the issue. I don’t think the FAA is acting normally in this or other situations. They...

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by iamlucky13
Wed May 05, 2021 6:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection
Replies: 238
Views: 53682

Re: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection

Have they started up again? Since FAA has not signed off on a fix, I think 'no' is a safe answer. To put my two cents on your point, they just reported that the matter will take a little longer than expected, since the FAA asked Boeing to provide additional analysis and documentation to see if the ...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share
Replies: 234
Views: 20407

Re: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share

That said don't buy into the Morrisond "the stored frames will unlock a heap of cash" either, because I think most of that will have disappeared in the compensation already written down in the P/L account. I think it will be another 2 years yet before the MAX goes "significantly"...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection
Replies: 238
Views: 53682

Re: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-28/faa-issues-repair-order-for-boeing-737-max-jet-electrical-parts The AD says the fix is still in work ("The manufacturer is currently developing service information"). The Airworthiness Directive mandates the problem be resolved, but state...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection
Replies: 238
Views: 53682

Re: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection

Some more snippets of information from the earnings call transcript. https://investors.boeing.com/investors/events-and-presentations/event-details/2021/Q1-2021-The-Boeing-Company-Earnings-Conference-Call/default.aspx ⋅ Approximately 100 in-service aircraft affected. ⋅ Finalizing ...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share
Replies: 234
Views: 20407

Re: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share

Boeing was really fast about posting the transcript this time: https://investors.boeing.com/investors/events-and-presentations/event-details/2021/Q1-2021-The-Boeing-Company-Earnings-Conference-Call/default.aspx More context really helps me understand what we're discussing. Emphasis is mine, and some...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share
Replies: 234
Views: 20407

Re: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share

Even without the MAX grounding, the narrowbody market share was not 50:50, but rather 66:34 in favor of Airbus. It has nothing to do with the MAX grounding, but all to do with the frame offering. By what metric was the market share 66:34 prior to the grounding? Post-grounding, even with all the can...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share
Replies: 234
Views: 20407

Re: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share

Calhoun's actual words, at least as quoted by Flightglobal, were not quite as explicit as "evenly." It looks like Flightglobal added that word. He said "hold our ground." From a deliveries standpoint, holding their ground actually is very even. For both the 5 and 10 year historie...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection
Replies: 238
Views: 53682

Re: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection

ST's report on the quarterly results ( https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/hit-both-by-pandemic-and-quality-problems-boeing-reports-more-losses ) says: (Boeing CEO David Calhoun) said Boeing is “finalizing the plans and documentation with the FAA” for a relatively quick fix that ...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CEO Boeing: “We want to get back to a dividend policy”
Replies: 24
Views: 6665

Re: CEO Boeing: “We want to get back to a dividend policy”

What I’m not seeing is a willingness to pay engineers to innovate like SpaceX. I know people who work at SpaceX. If Boeing can figure how to offer as inspiring of a work environment as SpaceX, then that would be awesome. However, for their sake, I hope Boeing engineer's never have their effective r...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Real Estate Sell Off in Puget Sound Region
Replies: 23
Views: 5187

Re: Boeing Real Estate Sell Off in Puget Sound Region

You'd think they'd want to keep unnecessary risks low for a new program, and you can't convince me that a greenfield facility will do that if it's not within a short drive of an existing one. That's my viewpoint as well, although it seems like upper management's appreciation of the level of risk pr...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Real Estate Sell Off in Puget Sound Region
Replies: 23
Views: 5187

Re: Boeing Real Estate Sell Off in Puget Sound Region

Now it seems they are selling the Dreamlifter facility at PAE to FedEx: Seems to be yet another sign that they don't see themselves doing new projects at PAE. At least not projects involving a lot of 747 Dreamlifter flights. PAE does still have a lot of existing space becoming available soon, an ex...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Q1 2021 results
Replies: 13
Views: 4221

Re: United Airlines Q1 2021 results

MIflyer12 wrote:
If the crowd will allow a few comparisons to DL, I'll argue they employed different capacity strategies to wind up very much in the same place.


Nice comparison. Thanks for sharing those numbers.

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by iamlucky13
Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection
Replies: 238
Views: 53682

Re: Boeing's 737 Max has new problem that will require electrical inspection

The statement of the media (This change was executed in such a way that it did not provide a complete electrical grounding path to the unit) seems to conflict with the statement of Boeing (inspections are needed to verify “that a sufficient ground path exists” for this control unit). I'd read that ...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Discussion on Airbus ZeroE Initiative/Carbon-Free Propulsion
Replies: 68
Views: 5504

Re: Discussion on Airbus ZeroE Initiative/Carbon-Free Propulsion

3) Trading roughly equal parts of increased water vapor emissions for reduced CO2 is a significant net improvement, because again, the overwhelming majority of that added water vapor does not persist like the CO2 does. Do you have any literature that describes point 3 in greater detail? According t...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN - A220 vs MAX "Never A Competition"
Replies: 101
Views: 15926

Re: WN - A220 vs MAX "Never A Competition"

Anyone who thought WN was seriously contemplating the A220 is a fool. Southwest themselves said it. https://theaircurrent.com/scoops/southwest-hits-roadblock-with-boeing-ge-as-it-seeks-300-737s-or-a220s/ https://theaircurrent.com/airlines/southwest-wants-a-small-airplane-from-boeing-or-airbus-and-t...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN - A220 vs MAX "Never A Competition"
Replies: 101
Views: 15926

Re: WN - A220 vs MAX "Never A Competition"

Anyone who thought WN was seriously contemplating the A220 is a fool. Southwest themselves said it. https://theaircurrent.com/scoops/southwest-hits-roadblock-with-boeing-ge-as-it-seeks-300-737s-or-a220s/ https://theaircurrent.com/airlines/southwest-wants-a-small-airplane-from-boeing-or-airbus-and-t...

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by iamlucky13
Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Plane used for gender reveal party crashes in Cancun
Replies: 40
Views: 9423

Re: Plane used for gender reveal party crashes in Cancun

I get a gender reveal party but why would anyone go that far to just reveal a gender.. Lol people these days... I don’t “get a gender reveal party.” We had 3 miscarriages, 1 normal and 1 very complicated pregnancy and the idea that you throw a huge party so early in a pregnancy before you know how ...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Plane used for gender reveal party crashes in Cancun
Replies: 40
Views: 9423

Re: Plane used for gender reveal party crashes in Cancun

It's very bizarre to me that on an aviation enthusiast forum, members seem critical of a family hiring an aircraft or inviting an acquaintance who owned one to help celebrate a milestone in a major life event. Why not just email your friends/relatives with the news if you care to share? This reveal...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Plane used for gender reveal party crashes in Cancun
Replies: 40
Views: 9423

Re: Plane used for gender reveal party crashes in Cancun

It's very bizarre to me that on an aviation enthusiast forum, members seem critical of a family hiring an aircraft or inviting an acquaintance who owned one to help celebrate a milestone in a major life event. As to the crash, during the limited period of time the person filming actually managed to ...

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