They did serve Cali ages ago yes. They also tried Barranquilla.
Jump to postI was right. No CAI. Leave it to LH. These routes are pretty interesting. It is not surprising UA will serve MDE. CO tinkered with other markets in Colombia without success. It is high time UA ventured out of BOG. Lots of people successfully predicted Morocco. I didn't see that one coming. More HKG ...
Jump to postI am not sure why some keep saying IAH-GEO and GUM-HND. It is my understanding that these flights have already been announced.
We could see CAI. But color me skeptical. Maybe a summer seasonal flight. I have no idea. I just wonder if the market is big enough.
Exactly... UA flies to AMM and will soon return to TLV. CO was going to start CAI long ago until the Arab spring came.
But I think CAI is a market that UA will just let LH serve. No CAI is coming I'm afraid, even though Egypt it a neat place.
By now Icahn should be old as the hills. I think him getting involved is a bad sign. I think UA will do just about anything to reenter JFK. They have a point. Why should a major airline be locked out of a major airport.
Jump to postThese kind of announcements are always good stuff for chatter on a.net. DFW-BNE (AA) LAX-BNE (UA) LAX-BNE (DL) Wow this is a lot. Pull out the popcorn. Did DL see that UA struggled even for being seasonal? DL has a larger market share in LAX. Maybe DL thinks they can push UA out, but I don't see UA ...
Jump to postI love how this thread is now at 10 pages and still going strong. Every airline must be relevant to everyone everywhere. People should want to be able to choose UA if they want to fly from Columbia, SC to Birmingham, AL. And if they can't, UA is a failure of an airline. Maybe not failure, but weak. ...
Jump to postYes, and I have talked to UA crew members. The GUM base is probably the most, or one of the most senior bases in the system. The people who have been there from CO since the beginning of time are still there and staying put.
Jump to postYes, the US and AA merger had to happen after DL/NW and UA/CO. We can't go back in time and say what a AA/UA merger would have looked like. I for one don't believe IAH and DFW would have been left untouched at both cities. Both hubs were just gigantic and close to each other. Big liability. Yes, AA ...
Jump to postLet's not go down this road again. UA is doing fine even without the old logo. Many of the new employees have probably never even seen the old logo. AA problems have little to do with the livery change. No sane person would argue this. Simpleflying has an article on AA's current problems. Surprise, ...
Jump to postGood grief people and their devotion to liveries. The old AA scheme is gone. The tulip is gone. All these are dead. May they RIP. Yes, we can debate this all day. But it's done.
Jump to postYes, except a lot of people will fly out of the way to get the best fares. BOS-IAH- to South America is out of the way. But it's not THAT out of the way. It's not like flying to LAX or ORD to get to Latin America. I have worked for an airline and I have seen all sorts of crazy routings to get the be...
Jump to postI am not sure why people on a.net are so obsessed with UA having a SE hub to compete with ATL and CLT and MIA. Every airline has a hole in their network. For UA that ship has kind of sailed. MIA didn't work for UA. AA isn't strong in the mountain west. Although not as many people in this area, it's ...
Jump to postThank you. Yes, I would say 120 million is a nice little payday for giving up two gates at an airport that is not key to their strategic interests. I also remember that UA actually loaded something like over 10 daily flights with regional jets between DAL and IAH, just to rub it into DL's face that ...
Jump to postThat's an interesting point RyanairGuru. Don't forget that apparently UA did not just give WN those 2 gates for free. Apparently UA just got a plum deal from WN that they just couldn't refuse, and some speculated that they were sending DL a message, since they were desperately trying to muscle out U...
Jump to postI will reiterate that maybe some of you should look for the article I mentioned on Orlando. I am not going to say which blogger analyzed MCO though. MCO has lots of traffic. But it has issues, such as trash yields. As someone said, a lot of these points are just hysterical. Nothing UA does in the re...
Jump to postAnd the goldmine hubs have been around a long time for their respective carriers. Either built from nothing or a merger or combination of both.
Jump to postI haven't read all the posts in this thread so maybe this has already been mentioned. I think MCO is a definite no go. There is another website that I won't mention, that presents a careful analysis of the current state of affairs there. It makes a convincing case that there are actually troubles in...
Jump to postI am glad that they didn't turn CLE into another spoke and that UA is still the biggest carrier there. I always thought they should have kept at least service to LGA and DCA and maybe BOS. Since they still have a base there it could be argued it's still a mini hub. But without connections I guess it...
Jump to postUA doesn't talk much about CLE, but CLE is the closest thing UA has to a focus city. Lots of folks predicted that after the merger with CO, CLE would be totally drawn down to a spoke. That never happened. P2P flying never stopped. I flew CUN-CLE-DEN in 2015.
Jump to postI have been reading this thread too and it's interesting. No one thinks B6 needs to go away. I don't see that anywhere. If airlines went out of business this forum would be boring. If CO could turn around so can B6. The secret sauce is not so secret. Reliable operations, happy employees, and fly rou...
Jump to postI agree. I think some of this intra west flying is ridiculous. Why on Earth is this airline flying from LAS to LAX. A real head scratcher. It's like maybe UA should fly from ATL to MIA and MCO to be relevant in the Deep South. Just because they are large markets does not mean UA should do it. Same t...
Jump to postYes, in 2013 analysts were saying that maybe UA should dehub IAD AND LAX. The reasoning was that people liked DCA more than IAD, and UA had EWR which was doing better for the airline at the time. LAX , because again, UA had another big hub just up the coast, and maybe UA should just surrender LAX to...
Jump to postYes, IAD certainly has potential. Just imagine that after the merger, "analysts" in the industry were suggesting UA just dehub IAD, because they already had EWR on the east coast, and most people preferred DCA anyway. Anyone else remember?
Jump to postAgain, I think WkndWanderer is on target here. A lot of people are going off on tangents in this thread, and sometimes, with respect, just aren't certain. Denver metro is very diverse even though the hub is mostly domestic. So to say it's not international is not really true. It's got the main bases...
Jump to postI think having an HQ in Chicago is more from an era of United of "old." But if that's what they want to hold on to, then go for it. Having an HQ in Texas, Colorado, DC, or even New York/NJ makes a lot of sense and there are pluses and minuses. The merger transformed both companies. I have ...
Jump to postUA has added more CLE flying. Is any more coming in the future? What do ya'll think?
Jump to postHappy New Year! Let's revive an old topic. Is UA going to try to enter JFK again? Or is that just a lost cause at this point?
Jump to postThis is why I love a.net. So much fun. DL will soon be giving UA, WN, and AA a run for their money! Maybe AUS to ICN or HND or LHR will be coming soon! DL had a perfectly good hub in DFW!
On a side note, in 2002, I flew through DL's great hub in DFW, an almost all RJ hub.
Someone mentioned TLV earlier, briefly. I don't think that's coming back anytime soon.
Jump to postWow. PA really fell apart quickly. I took them from JFK to FRA on the 747, and then took the 727 from FRA to IST and then to ESB in 1990. I remember they had Turkish flight attendants just for those 727 flights. In 1989 I took a PA 727 from JFK to DEN. Such a total network collapse. I was too young ...
Jump to postI remember in the early 90's TW had a 747 operating between SJU and STL. I remember sitting in the lounge terminal in SJU watching it in 94. I wonder what they had in SJU in 96.
Jump to postI wonder if UA will ever look at some of the secondary markets to CO developed so well, as new planes are delivered.
I know they were an alternative since they were limited to LGW, but it's still a thought.
I am sure a lot of folks miss CGN, HAM, BFS, BRS. I think BFS was subsidized and that ended?
I think it was UA and not CO, flew from LAX to MSP at one time on a regional jet as well as DFW. Doesn't AA still do LAX-IAH nonstop? This is an example of a token route.
Jump to postSTT, you of all people should know that CO tried HOU service. I am pretty sure it was to EWR of course. It flopped. I would be very surprised if UA has any interest in that airport. I think they had even attempted it more than once. Just like CO tried IAH to JFK. It didn't work it either, and they t...
Jump to postCO did serve Cebu from GUM. I vaguely remember this. But that is going back seriously a long time ago. In this thread it's the first time I have read about travel patterns of people in mountain towns to Central American and Mexican resort destinations. Do you have a source for this?
Jump to postThis is one weird diversion. Not a threat, not a disruption. Seems much ado about nothing. What do you think of this. Let the community weigh in. A guy diverted a plane for saying I love Allah? What's not being disclosed? https://www.yahoo.com/news/plane-passenger-arrested-flight-diverted-121716696....
Jump to postI remember back in 2015 I took the Saturday only CUN to CLE. Actually the routing was CUN-CLE-DEN. The nonstop was too expensive. When we landed in CLE, UA's nonstop from SJU was sitting right there beside us. I am sure that one will come back. UA definitely did fly to LAS, but pulled due to low cos...
Jump to postJoeljack, I am glad your bought up CLE. No one else here is even talking about the adds from CLE. It looks like CLE is not a forgotten state after all from a bygone era.
Jump to postOn a.net people like to talk about geography. To say that AUS does not make sense for a focus city for AA or UA due to distance to DFW and IAH, is on the surface reasonable, but under the hood it's the wrong argument. After the merger of CO and UA, even some "respected" airline analysts we...
Jump to postFunny, DL, AA, and WN in this feeding frenzy at AUS. That's 3 out of the 4 big U.S. carriers. At least UA had sense to stay out of the whole fray.
Jump to postWe are not privy to UA performance information on each route. But UA seems very, very interested in IAH-HND. I personally wish with they would do DEN-HND and DEN-CDG but that's just me! UA said when they dropped IAH-CDG that it hadn't done well for a long time. I guess AF has a stranglehold there. I...
Jump to postYes, I hammered away on this in an another thread. If AA is a launching CPH, and DL is already in CPH, UA should probably to a look at it.
Jump to postBoy I gave a nice kickstart to this thread. AA doesn't have the 757. Dementia is kicking in. Look at how long I've been in this forum anyway. Age is getting to me. Maybe AA shouldn't have dumped the 757 so they could actually try secondary markets. CO found that out a long time ago and pioneered the...
Jump to postI wonder about how a widebody to CPH would do on AA. I agree, I am not so sure about that one either. Some of you have real high hopes. Why not a 757, it seems like a good starter plane for this route. When looking at Transatlantic markets that are not the major destinations, it's always useful to l...
Jump to postPakistan is fun to talk about. But I don't believe PIA can fly nonstop to the USA. They stop at somewhere like Barcelona or Dublin or Heathrow, and always have. This is due to security concerns.
However PIA can fly to Pakistan nonstop in the reverse direction. It's not happening anytime soon.
The suggestion of AA flying to Pakistan is hysterical. It would be fun to see. I have a close American friend that has been to both India and Pakistan and compares them to me. I hear Lahore is a really cool city. Karachi not so great. But I think no US carrier will do it in our lifetimes. I don't th...
Jump to postThe point I was making here is that New York to San Juan has been known to be a pretty big market, probably with lots of cargo too, supporting widebodies of multiple airlines. That is the history. Clearly UA felt it was a good candidate for domestic widebody service for reasons already explained. Ye...
Jump to postIn the 90's CO flew the A300 from EWR-SJU. At the gate next door TWA had a 747 going to STL.
I don't know why there is so much excitement about this new discovery.
HAM is such a large city, and it was served for a very long time. I wonder about the story behind its demise. I bet it will return on UA metal one day.
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