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by DavidByrne
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 426
Views: 51385

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

I just read an article (below) about QF 747 points planes. Anyone have more info? https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-considers-boeing-747-points-plane-for-frequent-flyers I'm positive that I saw an item on Airline Route yesterday which listed some domestic 747 sectors QF was planning to operate in the...

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by DavidByrne
Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How much range is too much?
Replies: 30
Views: 4969

Re: How much range is too much?

Won't the PIP also improve the 787-9, and how will the dynamic of the smaller plane with equal economics tends to have higher RASM affect this? NZ has plans to serve AKL-EWR (probably, rather than JFK) and has signalled that a GE-powered 789 is how it will be done. I believe this will be achieved w...

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by DavidByrne
Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

I'd argue to the US point, especially if it's a startup. You would have read the comments from the Cook Island government on LAX-RAR, now factor in just how hard it is to gain awareness and exposure in the US market of the South Pacific Islands but also operating costs, you'd need crew change given...

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by DavidByrne
Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

Random blue-sky thinking: is there potential for a Pacific Island-based LCC operating 321XLRs between Aus, NZ and West Coast USA? Potentially to (say) Oakland and other secondary airports via RAR? That would be welcomed by airports like WLG and CHC. Still may founder on the lack of accommodation in ...

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by DavidByrne
Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

I believe NZ18 RAR-LAX and NZ61 RAR-SYD are subsidised. Being really nit-picky, but the services are under-written by the Cooks Govt, rather than subsidised automatically. This means that they may or may not receive a subsidy, depending on performance of the route. Highly likely, though, that they'...

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by DavidByrne
Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

apart from their initial disastrous flirtation with daylight flights) on the Pacific long-haul routes David can you elaborate on this? The lack of daylight Pacific long haul flights is one of the reasons I prefer QF to to the US - even via Australia, you're out of bed for a shorter period of time. ...

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by DavidByrne
Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

If you could send a 787 return in 24 hours during June/July/August 3 days a week, we might have seen it already. Sorry, but I don't get this thing about flights having to be less than 24-hours return to give them that added viability - enabling a return trip in a single day. Logic suggests to me th...

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by DavidByrne
Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

Modelling all these other factors in is where it begins to become complex or least opens a multitude of scenarios up. Put another 30 pax onto my above scenario and the -9 starts to become the better aircraft. Thanks for that. Having read the Project Sunrise thread elsewhere, though, I'm not going t...

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by DavidByrne
Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

How are you getting that trip cost info? It's not a loaded question, I'm keen to see what you're using It’s strictly back-of-the-envelope stuff based on half-confirmed information, but the logic goes something like this. The current quoted ranges of both variants are in the same ballpark, though th...

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by DavidByrne
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

Going back to the 4700nm A321XLR. I think it could be an interesting vehicle for both freeing up Widebodies for the long haul growth and boosting frequency on flights like PER/PPT/HNL as well as replacing short-haul widebodies on certain routes. The important thing is that it should allow for more ...

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by DavidByrne
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

Out of interest, how and where would you use the -8 and why would this be better than a -9 The only conceivable use I can think of, and it's really a very long shot, is that it IF the -8 got the same MTOW bump as the -9 and -10 are rumoured to be getting, then it might be able to carry the same pay...

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by DavidByrne
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

Okay... a few things here. a) We know the 78J will have some improvements but the details of that are unknown. b) NZ has said the 789 with GE engines will go to NYC but they haven't ordered them or converted them c) There are options for 12 additional frames d) The order is interchangeable between ...

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by DavidByrne
Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

Here is the press release again, it says the 78J can fly similar not all 772 missions. IAH and EZE seem to far for me, EZE given the lack of diversion points.. Agree - there's no prospect of the 78J flying Americas routes further than SFO/LAX in my view. They won’t have 1 odd 789 with a different c...

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by DavidByrne
Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

Another small point which seems to have escaped comment so far: NZ has for the first time (in my recollection, at least) mentioned Toronto in the same breath as New York and Sao Paulo as potential new destinations. I doubt very much that will happen until New York is well-established, but maybe some...

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by DavidByrne
Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

The dust has settled on the NZ 787-10 order, but there remain some big unanswered questions. New York, for example. The airline has said that it sees New York being serviced by the 787-9 with GE engines – but at this stage such aircraft are not on order. Meanwhile, “credible media reports” suggest a...

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by DavidByrne
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1327
Views: 226342

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

Take any payload range chart from the 777, A350, 787, A340 and pick the worst one with the steepest gradient. Even using this worse case gradient the 8690nm easily exceeds the Sydney-London route. So my firm conclusion is completely supported. On that basis I don’t know why airlines even bother wit...

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by DavidByrne
Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1327
Views: 226342

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

If the 777-8 can fly 8690nm with 365 passengers and we use the gradient of the 787 payload range curve then it would fly 9500nm with 265 passengers. So it can easily do Sydney to London completely standard. You can't just use data from the 787's performance and extrapolate to the 777x and then conc...

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by DavidByrne
Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

Is NZ next summer going to increase the frequency of its AKL-EZE (Buenos Aires) service next summer!? I noticed on its Argentina website its now selling EZE-AKL-NRT/SIN/PVG to Asia with competitive prices (US $1500) round-trip. Maybe this will increase the loads of the flights! :) Still listed at 5...

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by DavidByrne
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

I noticed in this map of CX's 1990 network that CX appeared to operate HKG-POM-AKL. Does anyone know if they had 5th freedom rights on it? IIRC the service was shared between NZ, PX and CX, and operated on a seasonal rotational basis, turn about. Not sure who had rights on what sectors though. Than...

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by DavidByrne
Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 272
Views: 24627

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

TG788 wrote:
I noticed in this map of CX's 1990 network that CX appeared to operate HKG-POM-AKL. Does anyone know if they had 5th freedom rights on it?

IIRC the service was shared between NZ, PX and CX, and operated on a seasonal rotational basis, turn about. Not sure who had rights on what sectors though.

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by DavidByrne
Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 426
Views: 51385

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

From 29 Mar 20, flight numbers will change on NZ flights Changes include Auckland – Brisbane NZ13x/73x > NZ14x/15x Auckland – Cairns NZ16x/77x > NZ16x Auckland – Gold Coast NZ24x/93x > NZ18x Auckland – Melbourne NZ12x/72x > NZ12x/13x Auckland – Sydney NZ10x/70x/71x > NZ10x/70x Brisbane – Norfolk Is...

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by DavidByrne
Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1327
Views: 226342

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

tealnz wrote:
Last I checked the great circle distance for a similar route AKL-LHR was much the same as from Sydney, so it should be do-able.

I think that things must have changed since the last time you checked.This morning AKL is more than 800 miles further from LHR than SYD.

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by DavidByrne
Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

Thinking it’s simply just keeping the options open for the future, eg short-haul growth 5 years down the track might start needing something larger than the A321NEO. Example: AKL-OOL/ADL/RAR etc would probably be an good fit for the 788 size. Hmm, not sure about that. A 250-seat WB is going to be m...

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by DavidByrne
Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

There so much talk and speculation on the 787 and what the future holds, -8, -9 and -10 and it all seems to focus on NYC and this extra MTOW.... Haven't we learnt anything, over the last year it was A350-900/1000 and the 777X with some 787 talk but ultimately dismissed due to range issues! Luxon sa...

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by DavidByrne
Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated, confirmed - Air NZ picks Boeing for wide-body order
Replies: 292
Views: 53384

Re: Updated, confirmed - Air NZ picks Boeing for wide-body order

The 260 T MTOW version of the -10 must be what NZ needed to persuade it to buy. With that MTOW no problem to fly AKL-LAX-LHR if required (though the 77W will be around for a good while yet).

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by DavidByrne
Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

Is it possible that the last 789 due this year could be in that config, with New York specially in mind. Seems like a no-brainer if it's possible at this stage. 6 tonnes more MTOW is a lot more range or a lot fewer seats blocked off westbound. What are we talking about - perhaps 120 miles per tonne?...

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by DavidByrne
Wed May 29, 2019 10:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1327
Views: 226342

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

What RJMAZ fails to appreciate in my view is that after a 20-hour or whatever flight it will be a huge ask for pax to have to wait an extra half hour for their bags. Forget the logic of his argument; it will come down to the emotional state of pax (likely very fragile after such a long flight) and w...

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by DavidByrne
Wed May 29, 2019 10:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

IIRC with a recent US3 order the B788 is getting a lot of the B789 refinements backported into it. So the commonality should be improving hugely. If that then results in further improved range then maybe it will be a serious option. NZ has been talking about a poss code 3 787-9 which might carry ab...

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by DavidByrne
Wed May 29, 2019 7:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

An issue which I don't think has yet been explored about NZ's re-equipment decision is the possibility of the 787-8. Various reports, including Flight Global's, have mentioned specifically that the -8 is included as a possible choice for the exercise of the options NZ has taken on the 787. From what...

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by DavidByrne
Tue May 28, 2019 9:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

Just noted that Air Chats is going to use the ATR72 on the WAG route on many services between Fri afternoons and Monday mornings. Their ability to fill planes on a route that NZ couldn't make work with DH3s is a real credit to them. How long before we see a daily WAG-CHC with a SWM or SF3?

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by DavidByrne
Tue May 28, 2019 2:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated, confirmed - Air NZ picks Boeing for wide-body order
Replies: 292
Views: 53384

Re: Updated, confirmed - Air NZ picks Boeing for wide-body order

I think RR lost this order for Airbus. Despite the NZ CEO specifically saying that was not the case. And despite the fact that the 78J clearly had advantages of fleet commonality over the A359. It's great that A-netters can identify the real truth obscured by such cleverly disguised very clear and ...

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by DavidByrne
Mon May 27, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

According to the Investor Day presentation today, deliveries for the 787-10 is as follows (presume these are financial years): 2023 - 1 2024 - 2 2025 - 2 2026 - 1 2027 - 1 2028 - 1 I'll be surprised if they don't take up some 789 options for earlier deliveries than this - otherwise there will be no...

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by DavidByrne
Mon May 27, 2019 4:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated, confirmed - Air NZ picks Boeing for wide-body order
Replies: 292
Views: 53384

Re: Updated, confirmed - Air NZ picks Boeing for wide-body order

SA744 wrote:
I wish they would do JNB now

Not mentioned even as a possibility by the carrier for many years now. Right now they're signalling EWR and GRU (no surprises with either of these) but now also YYZ is being considered (have not heard mention of that by the carrier until today).

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by DavidByrne
Sun May 26, 2019 10:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

Great news, but I haven't yet seen anything about the capabilities of the proposed 78J purchase. For example, I assume that the airline has assurances that they will be able to fly to the US west coast with a decent payload - that hasn't been the case to the present AFAIK. And I don't see the 78J be...

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by DavidByrne
Fri May 24, 2019 5:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

ZK-NBT wrote:
I’m quite confident there will be 78Js as part of if not this entire order.

So no prospect of an NZ service to EWR, then?

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by DavidByrne
Wed May 22, 2019 1:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

The 778 has range that could have been if interest for routes like NYC/GRU, IMO it’s to big for those which are more likely on a less dense 789 IMO. This order will likely paint a picture of what will replace the 77W later in the decade however. I’m not sure about 789s in this order, much more like...

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by DavidByrne
Mon May 20, 2019 8:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

The 777X was never a serious contender for a 77E replacement in my view. However, it will be interesting to see if NZ options some 778s as a potential 77W replacement.

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by DavidByrne
Sun May 19, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

e https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business-video/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503079&gal_cid=1503079&gallery_id=206822 For anyone who was expecting the 77X to replace the 772. This video will disappoint you. So will it be a 787 package or an A350 package... either one, loaded with 'Options' for more airc...

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by DavidByrne
Sun May 19, 2019 4:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

In Longterm future maybe 3 daily 789s to LAX and they could offer something like what I said? Or UA do the third flight? The current strategy seems to be to put all extra capacity on new destinations rather than existing ones. LAX will probably become solely point-to-point traffic (plus transit to ...

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by DavidByrne
Sun May 19, 2019 12:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

Anyway just looking at ways they could grow in the short term without adding more 787s, could be no such plans and they have cut growth somewhat. I'm picking that if they need more capacity there's still the rumoured 77W from Eva Air that is rumoured not to be going back. Then it's really just a ma...

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by DavidByrne
Sat May 18, 2019 4:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

Ultimately, the question is why would people fly VA? Is it different or unique? I.e something you 'must try' (Boutique) or something you 'want to try' (high level of service SQ/EK etc), is it cheaper than others in the market (FR/U2)? does it go anywhere different or direct (CHC-ADL, CHC-HBA), do y...

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by DavidByrne
Sat May 18, 2019 1:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

Whoopee! Is this forum New Zealand aviation or Auckland aviation? No news or discussion at all on the announcement of $6b being spent on it becoming easier to get to/from Wellington airport. Sheesh. Umm, there's absolutely nothing stopping anyone from posting on the Wellington-Airport rapid transit...

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by DavidByrne
Sat May 18, 2019 1:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

This is fantastic news! Something I've ranted about a few times over the last year or two. Hopefully, light rail now becomes just a Dominion Road / Mangere Town Centre line and some type of dedicated light rail/sky train service can be built to connect Puhinui and the airport. Then once a rail line...

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by DavidByrne
Fri May 17, 2019 12:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas Fleet Thread - 2019
Replies: 245
Views: 48581

Re: Qantas Fleet Thread - 2019

moa999 wrote:
By my count EBB EBC EBD EBE EBL have the hump, with EBF likely returning to service any day.

But unsure if its actually active in all 5

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how much "the hump" affects the aircraft's performance?

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by DavidByrne
Fri May 17, 2019 12:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1327
Views: 226342

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

Take Greece and Italy for example. Both countries have a massive number of passengers flying between Australia. Currently passengers are flying one or two stop options using carriers that can never have the rights to do a non stop option. No doubt a huge percentage of these passengers are highly pr...

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by DavidByrne
Thu May 16, 2019 12:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

This is one way to reduce weight on a plane to increase range. Eg take out 20 seats and maybe a toilet (which gives you back 3 seats) means you reduce weight on board by around 2.5t which in turn could give you around 500km more range all while being roughly revenue neutral. I'm wondering if this i...

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by DavidByrne
Wed May 15, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 59 years of Lufthansa operations in California
Replies: 24
Views: 3855

Re: 59 years of Lufthansa operations in California

And the 59th anniversary is newsworthy why? Looking forward to the 63rd anniversary anyway.

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by DavidByrne
Sat May 11, 2019 2:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 365
Views: 59120

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

I feel like VA got handed the rough end of the breakup on the Tasman, NZ knew they had the A321NEO’s so losing an few seats they had on VA wasn’t to major for them. No one got "handed" anything. It was a partnership that was viewed by both as mutually beneficial, at least originally. NZ c...

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by DavidByrne
Thu May 09, 2019 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

We’ve seen no evidence Boeing have a development path for the 78J that would let it carry payload from LAX comparable to the 77W. That matters: freight revenues for NZ are basically pure profit. There’s no way they’re going to give away that revenue stream. That’s also why the 789 will struggle in ...

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by DavidByrne
Thu May 09, 2019 8:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 42817

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

Sylus wrote:
VA to drop CHC-SYD to seasonal from year round. Sep-Apr

With a LF on its Transtasman routes of 66% in the latest BITRE stats, I'm not surprised. Something had to change.

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