The domestic airfare market has been ranked New Zealand’s least competitive, trailing supermarkets, banks and petrol companies. A Horizon Research survey found that 75 per cent of respondents considered the domestic aviation market – overwhelmingly dominated by Air New Zealand – to be the least com...
Jump to postI’m still of the view that the “logical” carrier to operate AKL-NTL is NZ. Any Australian carrier is going to have close to zilch transfer traffic at NTL. However, we know that a significant component of NZ’s traffic into AKL in the early evening time slot is transferring to North America. Even if ...
Jump to postThird time lucky for NTL-AKL, after the SJ and VA attempts? Perhaps JQ will try it this time? Newcastle Airport foresees daily international flights post-upgrade Newcastle Airport could seek daily international flights, including to New Zealand ... once its upgrades are complete. Newcastle Airport ...
Jump to postCI said AKL was difficult from an aircraft utilisation perspective, they park in SYD/MEL for the day to fly overnight both ways don’t they? I think this is one of those situations where we may have over-analysed a comment by an airline. Sure, it isn’t possible to achieve high utilisation and run ov...
Jump to postNZ just launched an Australia sale this morning, and HBA (yes, this is for the direct service, from October), is pricier than most others: Seat only : - SYD: $197 - BNE: $211 - MEL: $216 - OOL: $246 - HBA: $292 - MCY: $334 - CNS: $376 Bugger. I've paid over the odds for my trip to Australia later t...
Jump to postHBA ... advertised fares have been comparable with Y fares on most other East Coast-Auckland routes. Really? NZ just launched an Australia sale this morning, and HBA (yes, this is for the direct service, from October), is pricier than most others: Seat only : - SYD: $197 - BNE: $211 - MEL: $216 - O...
Jump to postIs NZ's AKL-HBA service not working year-round because it genuinely doesn't do well in the winter months, or because NZ doesn't have the capacity to service it? Or perhaps the 320/321neos are too large for it? If a city pair is too small for the 321neo (PDEW), then the 220 is the lowest cost altern...
Jump to postWhat are the "increasing operational costs of the programme"? Inflation is below 5%, yet Koru fees are going up 20%, or more than four times the inflation rate? I’ve no idea when Koru Club fees were last increased, but you’re assuming that it was just one year ago if you make that compari...
Jump to postBack to the possibility of connections from Australia to secondary NZ ports: I know that there has been speculation that this would be JQ, but I wouldn't rule out QF at all. My reasoning: * QF (Cam Wallace) recently went on record saying that they were exploring the possibility of services to second...
Jump to postPEOPLE…..! Please…..! This is an aviation forum, not a trainspotters convention. I merely mentioned it earlier as a missed opportunity from a long time ago that could have in the right circumstances provided an alternative to the congestion that is faced by many now. I certainly agree that “that sh...
Jump to postAn HR link from Puhinui would only involve partial (for the most part) purchases of around 40 properties, the rest is farm land. The bridge over the inlet would be relatively simple and inexpensive, on the airport itself they’d be providing the land, surface running then a shalllow trench through p...
Jump to postHow useful would a rail line to AKL really be? Would it just turn up like SYD with a ridiculous airport gate fee added on? It’s now around $18-19 for the airport surcharge in SYD just to use the airport stations. Somehow I think AKL would implement a similar fee too? That's just speculation - there...
Jump to postZaphodHarkonnen wrote:RTN? That's Road Transport Network right?
. . . the piece talks about QF expanding beyond pre-Covid capacity in NZ (there's "strong demand" for customers travelling "to" NZ) and that the new CHC services were more about connecting with QF's long-haul network, rather than east coast Australia O&D - "More than ha...
Jump to postI've always said, in my opinion the A350 is a far superior product for NZ's network. I still hold out hope for an order, if the 787-10 MTOW increase fails to deliver or Boeing's priorities change there's a small window of hope. Agree. There’s a chance for the A350-1000 IMO to replace the 77W if the...
Jump to post4 The opportunity to link a heavy rail connection to the airport via an extension of the Puhinui line, seems to be an idea that is constantly refused, and considered as the most foul language ever used when people are talking about links to the airport, because “hey, AKL has buses don’t they”? This...
Jump to postQantas adding more capacity on the Trans-Tasman from October, this time on BNE/MEL to CHC and MEL to WLG. https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/350225534/qantas-going-ramp-flights-three-trans-tasman-routes Once again highlighting how NZ's fleet strategy is seriously working to its disadvantage. As I said ...
Jump to postIMO, South America needs another connection - probably GRU . . . While an NZ 789 couldn't do GRU, presumably a lower-density QF 789 could? Can someone explain to me why AKL-GRU (7,484 miles, about the same as AKL-IAH) is not do-able by NZ, but AKL-JFK (8,828 miles) is feasible. That's almost three ...
Jump to postplanemanofnz wrote:There's strong demand in the market ...
Zkpilot wrote:Putting all your eggs in one basket is not a good strategy if you want to avoid these types of issues.
zkncj wrote:With the Boeing PR issues, along with all it the recent engine issues with the 787/a320/1NEO’s.
Shouldn’t NZ be working towards some more diversity in their fleet?
ZK-NBT wrote:Foran has talked about simplicity long term so perhaps that indicates all 789s
Here is one reason why NZ dosen't want to fly to India. "With Buenos Aires it's one big city that makes up most of Argentina -- whereas in India you've got 11 or 12 different cities that people want to go to. If they go to a concentrated place that's better -- the market size has to be big eno...
Jump to postI completely agree with you. The only thing I want to comment on is the AKL airport fees, NZ have no control over what AKL is building yet they must pay for it. That's their issue. To compare this to "every day living", it's like your rent going up over $1,000 a week so your landlord can ...
Jump to postTo get good usage from a regional jet, and at the same time feed the smaller Australian ports from North America at better frequencies, this kind of schedule could work: NSN0700-0805AKL0905-1055HBA1220-1740AKL1840-1945NSN That sort of schedule could work also for an aircraft routing from DUD or IVC ...
Jump to postI don’t get the mania on this thread for increased competition everywhere, which is supposed to lead to lower fares as if this was the ultimate goal of the aviation sector - or ought to be. Apart from putting pressure on staff wages and shareholder returns in very uncertain times, it’s worth noting ...
Jump to postOriginally, the top-up order for 787s was for 8 787-10s, convertible to 787-9s at the airline’s discretion. I am aware that the first two 787s were changed to -9s, but AFAIK there has been no announcement of the remainder being formally converted to 789s (though I fully expect they will be). Have I ...
Jump to postAs for AKL, NZ was first mover on OOL-AKL, which that route is AAIF funded by Queensland Actually, SJ was the first mover on TT from OOL - including, I think, to AKL. But I would be absolutely shocked if AAIF was still funding AKL-OOL operations. Is that for real? Why on earth, when it's such a pop...
Jump to postThey need to cover the existing and future input cost increases so they can't afford to lower fares. Yes, it’s interesting to see how some posters consistently argue that fares are too high and that they’ll be brought down magically by increased competition. Isn't that exactly what's happened on US...
Jump to postOYE is due before to long and will be interesting if she joins the glider fleet or not. Presumably whether any new aircraft joins the glider fleet is dependent on how many hours individual P&W engines on the international A320/321 fleet have done. If an engine hasn’t reached the limit where rem...
Jump to postThey need to cover the existing and future input cost increases so they can't afford to lower fares. Yes, it’s interesting to see how some posters consistently argue that fares are too high and that they’ll be brought down magically by increased competition. Frankly, the trope about high fares is j...
Jump to postReading the reporting, it appeared to indicate that this DL route has received financial support from the Qld govt so no idea how their allocation of funding works. If that's true, and I was QF, I'd be very concerned that a State government was actively subsidising my competitor in the market. I ge...
Jump to postCould we see QF or JQ launch HBA-AKL? Looking at the stats, it would be foolhardy for a second carrier to compete on AKL-HBA. Would it really be in the TAS government’s interest to subsidise a competing carrier? Would it even be ethical? Not that business, government and ethics are necessarily comf...
Jump to postWith the A321XLR’s I wonder if QF would do an overnight night redeye on AKL-PER? Current a route missing from there network. QF currently overnights around 5-6 738s in Auckland, some of them finish there night early eg 10pm. If they could an earlier finishing aircraft then send it on a AKL-PER-AKL ...
Jump to postIncredible yet unsurprising of Stuff to parrot NZs talking points without any critical thought. This was a news story, which quoted several parties to the debate, including AIAL, Air NZ and the minister. I thought it stated each party’s position (not just “parroting” NZ’s) reasonably succinctly. It...
Jump to postIMO the only real question is whether NZ sticks with the 789 and an all-789 fleet, or whether it migrates to the A359 when the older 789 frames come due for replacement. The advantage of the A359 is its better ULR capabilities, which could really help the economics of JFK and ORD. However, we don’t ...
Jump to postNZ516 wrote:Air NZ did a press release when the first leased one came that they were also looking for another.
I am a little more reserved when we talk about fleet shortage, people say ‘huge shortage’ I think the short haul fleet is a bigger issue, but at least the wide body fleet can cover short haul, atm sometimes at the expense of frequency, long haul they need something but 1-2 additional frames would m...
Jump to postCX Flyboy says on the CX thread that apparently two more ex-CX 77Ws are going to NZ. No source provided, so just a rumour - but if true, would be great news. Trouble is, given it’s A-Net, it may just be repeating a rumour which started on this thread some months back! Any which way, hope it’s corre...
Jump to postForan stated recently something along the lines of additional frequency. It seems for now there isn’t be any new destinations so grow what they have for now. That’s true, but what we don’t know ( I think) is whether he was talking about a 12-month strategy or a 10-year strategy. And it’s also signi...
Jump to postWe've previously discussed the idea of an all-789 WB fleet, and I don't think this can yet be ruled out. As ZK-NBT pointed out, capacity is really only an issue on AKL-LAX, and with the proliferation of North American routes the frequency on LAX is still way below the maximum which was achieved some...
Jump to postWRE is the largest of the two being over double the size of WAG. In 2023 at 101,900 and 48,000 respectfully both are district councils. A WRE - WLG and a WRE- CHC should be the top two unserved routes in the country. But the real challenge is the short runway at WRE as they could both almost be an ...
Jump to post... discussion about the possibility of 3C taking on MRO-AKL seemed to me to originate in MRO itself - and wishful thinking on A-Net. I don’t recall 3C itself ever suggesting it as a possible future route ... 3C has repeatedly expressed interest in MRO, starting over a decade ago. Cheers, that’s us...
Jump to postCan we all give this HBA Border Force stuff a rest? Nobody has posted anything other than hearsay and guesses. Appreciate the detail in your response. What remains for me unresolved is why the Aus Prime Minister himself had to approve the NZ flights, and limited them to 130 flights per year - equiv...
Jump to postWhere does this leave 3C for growth in destination-count then? IIRC, MRO had widely been discussed as one if not the most obvious options for them. I don’t think 3C is driven by “destination count”. It appears to me to have a very cautious and conservative approach to growth. Even AKL-PPQ seems to ...
Jump to postYes I thought that the customs staff comes across from the Hobart Port for each arrival. I originally assumed so too, but a few weeks back another poster indicated that the skillset for aircraft movements and that for shipping differed, and that was why staff were brought from MEL. I’d have thought...
Jump to postplanemanofnz wrote:JQ's head of New Zealand signalled "strong demand for flights between Auckland and Brisbane".
I was under the same impression that this was the case, based on the assumption the 3rd country has to give the all-clear to the AU or NZ carrier. As outlined per many other users in different posts in this thread, there was Samoa blocking VA from flying AKL-APW, which is an example of a 3rd countr...
Jump to postHaving a state owned airline, means little incentive for anyone else to start another airline. In turn there is less incentive for NZ to innovate, and start more out of the box short-haul routes. When Kiwi International started, that lead to NZ via SJ starting all sorts of Tasman routes from region...
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