That's nothing new, legacy airlines have always struggled on short haul where LCCs pick up most of the market. British Airways short haul at Gatwick has never been able to compete against EasyJet, which is the largest airline at Gatwick already. And Wizzair even undercuts EasyJet, which is on the e...
Jump to postguillermohs wrote:windian425 wrote:As for the topic, sad news for transatlantic aviation. Reduced fares are very much needed in this market.Does this help IAG with Level? Or is Level toast anyway..
They might try to operate intra-Scandinavian sectors via Spanish crews in lower wages. That's how it all started in AGP and ALC when they first stepped into the Spanish market. All the best luck to them. They are a truly nice competitor hopefully for Europe we don't see them falling down. Undercutt...
Jump to postBA will not be closing their Gatwick base long term. Short haul is expected to return next year, they would not be selling flights if they plan on completely shutting down at Gatwick. They will need those slots when things pick up again, just at the moment they don't need them. BA ex Gatwick pilot ...
Jump to postThat’s one of the most insensitive, disrespectful and pompous things I’ve ever read. Greed? These people did not set the terms and conditions of their employment when they joined. They were being paid in accordance with an AGREED level of remuneration and living their lives in accordance with that s...
Jump to postOnly on the proportion of work that is carried out in the U.K. For a Virgin pilot that amount is obviously minimal, usually falls inside the tax free allowance and, for the extreme case where it doesn’t, is normally taken care of by the dual tax agreements between the two countries. Anyway thread dr...
Jump to postIt’s not quite as close as you assume here, can still go either way. The Bondholders that did vote for did it on the condition that it went through overnight, they’re not now necessarily going to vote the same way as they’re no longer bound by that agreement. The lessors voted for on the condition t...
Jump to postWhy on earth are BA delaying the almost inevitable... couldn’t possibly be so it can purge the expensive parts of its workforce and see its main rival disappear first?! :lol: Nail on head. And Willie is willing to sacrifice the financial well-being of 12,000 of his staff and their families just to ...
Jump to postWhy on earth are BA delaying the almost inevitable... couldn’t possibly be so it can purge the expensive parts of its workforce and see its main rival disappear first?! :lol: Nail on head. And Willie is willing to sacrifice the financial well-being of 12,000 of his staff and their families just to ...
Jump to postU2 will not be able to get enough slots to run a viable short haul operation from LHR. VS slots are not enough and won't be free. Even if sold at a fraction of the pre crisis value they will still be too expensive to run a short haul flight. Foreign carriers mainly paid top dollars for LHR access. ...
Jump to postWho’s the parent company that holds the shares of both companies? There’s your answer. How they proportion that money is up to them.
Jump to post3AWM wrote:VS11 wrote:
That's very creative but it won't be able to hire the current British crew members, and in a way it is a big deal.
a) why not?
b) why would that matter to Delta buying Virgin's assets out of administration?
Depending on how long this goes on, IAG may well have problems of their own. There’s no end in sight for the travel bans and hence nobody can be feeling any sense of relief or victory.
Jump to postIsn’t the aid package only for 3 Billion Krona? That’s not exactly going to last them a long time .
Jump to postAnd how are you going to enforce the same measures on other land based transport; trains, TFL Buses and the London Underground, for instance? The whole thing will be an utter farce if it is confined solely to aircraft.
Jump to postBung an F cabin on the A350 and you're good to go! As is the plan with future A350s already ordered... None of the current A350s on order are to receive first class. It’s amazing that no matter how many times BA have said there is no first class on any of the 18 firm orders, there’s still people he...
Jump to postpeople are physically scared to get on any public transport, let alone aircraft. Seen the London Underground recently? It’s still packed, no change whatsoever. Well stations are closing as I speak but that doesn’t indicate the public willingness to travel on public transport, they’re closing becaus...
Jump to postThis will be a lot less of a shock than people think. There’ll be a few airlines that fall by the wayside but ultimately it’ll get up and running again, it always does. Don’t misjudge the speed of the recovery, after 9/11 people were physically scared stiff to get on an aircraft after seeing four ai...
Jump to postBluefltspecial if you’d actually read my post without getting so hysterical you’d have seen I wasn’t singling out Norwegian AT ALL. There’s bigger fish to fry here, which was my point but if you so wish then feel free to get all butthurt over some stranger making what amount to absolutely irrelevant...
Jump to postI was more referring to Norwegian’s loads. I don’t agree this is short term. IAG may have cash reserves of £6Billion but that’s not enough to cover the entire group and certainly not the whole group for six months of this, which I would say was a hard minimum right now. In short everybody is utterly...
Jump to postDo you really think they were carrying many passengers on those flights in the current climate? The goose has been cooked, not only for Norwegian but for British Airways and every other European airline right now. In airline terms it’s the apocalypse, barring state intervention. It’s a moot point no...
Jump to postThis is now getting to be so severe that it may be the start of renationalising the airlines. Just a couple of months ago people would think you were on crack for suggesting that but surely that’ll happen before every major international airline goes to the wall? After all governments have to think ...
Jump to postAirlines with a lot of last-minute, or short term bookings will be the first to differ cash flow issues. That’s what pushed flyBe over the edge, in the end. Norwegian might be slight more resilient to this if they have a higher proportion of leisure or VFR traffic already booked. Look at what many ...
Jump to postThai Cabin crew on pathetic contracts etc etc. scbril you need to get a grip on reality and realize that their product is being sold way below cost. I notice you have completely ignored my point about the environmental angle (which more and more people are interested in, like it or not) of Norwegian...
Jump to postSmartplane you’ve been given the answer to that in their flag of convenience model pushing for the race to the bottom for employees. If we’re going in the climate change direction then why the hell should DY be allowed to add needless capacity and emissions on routes that are already well catered for?
Jump to postBA777FO I wouldn’t crow about the management changes. If you thought Klaus was bad, be very aware that he’s a pussycat compared to Mahoney. We were promised by Balpa that Cruz was a dead man walking, he’s still here and not about to go anywhere with Gallego in charge of IAG. With regard to CC Ts and...
Jump to postBecause it’s over a populated area.
Jump to postWhat role does BA see for 77W/779? The new hi-J configuration for the 77Ws means that they'll be mostly hi-J 747 replacements going forwards (lots of JFKs, the first route announced for the new 77W config - eventually MIA, LAX, SFO etc) and the 779 will be more of a mid-J 747/current 77W replacemen...
Jump to post[photoid][/photoid] Agreed that the A350 is too much plane for short TATL sectors like BOS -LHR or PHL-LHR. The 787-10 would be a much better and efficient choice. BA should better use the A350's to the far East or US West coast. It won’t do LAX or SFO because it doesn’t have First Class. Which alwa...
Jump to postPlease provide a source. My googling came up empty. It's in here https://www.airlineratings.com/news/modified-767-not-seen-as-a-replacement-for-the-nma-boeing-exec/ "On other new planes, Hulst said the timetable for when the ultra-long-range 777-8 might enter service was still under service bu...
Jump to postNot completely true, the configuration on the 35K announced is only confirmed for the first batch of aircraft. BA have not ruled out that an F class will be configured on later aircraft Yes they have. If you’re talking about the options they hold then who knows what config they’ll be in but none of...
Jump to postTech knowledge is one thing but no substitute for experience on the aircraft. I’ve flown with many captains who could tie me in knots in a competition in describing the architecture of the electric system and redundancies of the A320 but who I’ve totally taken to school in terms of planning a thrust...
Jump to postOne could argue that seniority is the most logical way for a variety of reasons. Including Airbus trainers taking their training ticket straight onto a 777 and teaching their new aircraft despite never having flown a Boeing? Many of these examples exist in BA. But that’s a discussion for another fo...
Jump to postDoes anyone know where the flight crew for the A350 will be drawn from? Will it be ex-Boeing 747/777 pilots or will ex A32x pilots be more suitable? Since the 747 fleet is being reduced, I'd expect that to be the largest source of crews. Depends what the Jumbo guys and girls bid for, there’s also 1...
Jump to postSeniority pure and simple. There’s no logic in BA.
Jump to postFailed takeover attempt. I presume you mean IAG running a mile after getting a look at Norwegian’s books. I think it was O’Leary who said “I’m not interested in catching falling knives” when asked about a potential takeover himself. The Low Cost Long Haul failures are many, just recently we’ve had L...
Jump to postYou've compared an airline that operates to NYC from one city to another that does it from multiple cities. So BA have no long haul passengers originating in AMS, OSL, ARN, CPH, DUB, MAD, FCO, ATH or CDG? Fact is, Norwegian take over 3000 people from Europe to New York each day that might have othe...
Jump to postNorwegian are now bigger than BA in their flagship market. New York sees more BA 777s than 747s these days. In what way are they “bigger”? They have more flights there than BA? Well there’s no trophy for that and that’s not exactly hard seeing as BA serves one destination (London) and Norwegian ser...
Jump to postHurting BA to the extent of a £2 Billion profit whilst Norwegian are retrenching to almost being out of business? Wow BA have such a bloody nose from Norwegian, don’t they? :lol: BA are my employer too and I hate the management here but they certainly know what they’re doing, unlike the shambles ove...
Jump to postA bit of an oxymoron really as we know the 747 has no real future besides retirement but obviously the one route we can count on British Airways utilising the 747 on to the bitter end will be JFK. I guess a lot of these will be oil price dependent but what are the other major candidates for the rout...
Jump to postVirgin Australia do not fly from London to Las Vegas. If you’re meaning Virgin Atlantic the code is VS.
Jump to postLanding performance in Jersey with the Max 8 is going to be a bit of an issue. In theory it’s doable but factor in a wet runway and/or a couple of knots tailwind (ie quartering tailwind across 26 utilizing the lower minima in fog on that runway) and there’s going to be problems. That one will be ver...
Jump to postAny ITKs know what the plan is likely to be for BA in crewing the 777-9? Separate fleet altogether or all current 777 pilots given differences course to fly both types (bit strange calling it a different type)?
Jump to postAs someone else has said, there is no long haul low cost only long haul low fares and that doesn’t make money. That is why Norwegian are failing spectacularly to make any money at it. There is a reason that Ryanair and easyJet aren’t doing it you know. Or do you think Kjos has thought of something O...
Jump to postCould be, if they are absolutely insane.
Jump to postIt’s because they’re selling their product below cost (and they undoubtedly are looking at their financials). In the process they’re undercutting not just the other airlines but the staff at those other airlines whose Terms and Conditions get benchmarked against Norwegian’s which are unrealistically...
Jump to postI’m aware of that. Just giving a reason why some people might think Norwegian aren’t all that fantastic.
Jump to postMaybe because they’re an unprofitable business muscling in on routes where there is already an overcapacity and undercutting the established operators and, in the process, putting pressure on the Ts and Cs of the staff at those legacy airlines in order for them to compete. How would you feel if some...
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