Given how much the union would complain about an airline trying to break work rules, it strikes me that the airlines are (mostly) staying within the rules that the pilots' contracts themselves allow. And that means that the pilots and the unions have missed the mark in the complete set of rules tha...Jump to post
Nobody cares about the pilots either if their flights are not affected. They are not leading a charge for anyone. Customers are being affected! That’s what this is all about. It’s no secret that the over promised, under-delivered schedules are negatively impacting the traveling public. Again, this ...Jump to post
Everything you listed applies 10x to other airline employees too, especially FAs, and with less rest and a fraction of the pay. Always amuses me when Pilots attempt to get the general public to feel sorry for them. Nobody cares when most airline employees are upset at working conditions. When pilot...Jump to post
How many signs held by SWAPA yesterday were exclusively about pilots and their pay/needs?
Want to talk about entitlement? Start with the attitudes shown here. I’ll never understand why aviation enthusiasts on an aviation forum love to consistently crap on airlines and their employees.
I'm sorry, but 1) aren't pilots pretty darned well compensated already? 2) don't union contracts already specify work rules with repercussions for employers who breach them? What am I missing here? Much of the thread apparently. Here you go… Alaska, AA, Delta, SWA. All contracts with the unions are...Jump to post
In the airline industry, as it currently stands, airlines are squeezing every last drop out of pilots. Worked to the max. They're exhausted. Everything you listed applies 10x to other airline employees too, especially FAs, and with less rest and a fraction of the pay. Always amuses me when Pilots a...Jump to post
All I know is they visited HNL and LIH and I think Bob was with them. It wasn't for nothing, something must be in play. They also visited OGG and ITO so I assume they’re checking up on them all. Bob comes in next week. Maybe more nonstops coming well we know there will be but the max 7 probably has...Jump to post
Anybody here any thing I heard that 4 WN high level people are in HNL and Bob Jordan is arriving next week. Wonder what’s up ? All I know is they visited HNL and LIH and I think Bob was with them. It wasn't for nothing, something must be in play. They also visited OGG and ITO so I assume they’re ch...Jump to post
I agree, great follows on social media. With HNL being a common stopping point for them I’ve been able to see many of these flights so it’s cool to see it all documented from their perspective.Jump to post
Just noticed LGA-ICT direct is available for booking tomorrow. Is this new? If so, when did it start? WN has same-plane 1-stop service between LGA and ICT with a stop at STL, but no nonstop flights between LGA and ICT. Yep, you are correct. My travel agent site was showing it as a nonstop today but...Jump to post
I was a kid when the original came out. Top Gun is deeply ingrained in my childhood. I wore out VHS after VHS. There was no internet. That movie was my access to Naval aviation, the F-14 and aircraft carrier ops. It all fascinated me, I couldn’t get enough. If I was lucky the nightly news might show...Jump to post
I have to wonder what principles the site uses in determining where to place a watermark The site doesn't use any principles. Watermark location, size, and strength are determined by the uploader (who is the photo copyright holder). After seeing this masterpiece of a photo nearly ruined by "AI...Jump to post
Again..... The airlines can do all they want to hire pilots and flight attendants, they want. They are putting nothing into hiring maintenance. Without Maintenance...... Planes. Do. Not. Fly. Same goes for ground handling staff, pilots and FA's are good for doing the 'up-in-the-air' part, you still...Jump to post
How are Southwest’s 737-800 and 8MAX engines holding up doing interisland flights? Do they limit how many interisland flts they do before heading back to the West Coast? How much time do they allow for turnaround? After three years, they are holding up just fine - no issues. The aircraft rarely spe...Jump to post
airlinepeanuts wrote:Where are all the people who've been on here trashing their intra-island service?
The inter-island increases are interesting, but looks like some pretty big cuts on mainland flying: *SAN-KOA/LIH/OGG remain out of the schedule *LAX/PHX-KOA/LIH and LGB/SMF-OGG are gone for Fall *LAX-HNL/OGG reduced to 1x *Looks like some Bay Area freq decreases as well I’d venture to guess that th...Jump to post
There’s no shortage of FA applicants. Attracting people to frontline ground positions is a problem in many cities. Yep especially with places like Amazon, UPS, and FX hiring like crazy, and often times not requiring you to drive way out of your way(like many airports often are) Not only this but pa...Jump to post
Some other announcement on Thursday. Or it could and most likely is just a coincidence. For a bit it was changing between the 30th and 31st when I would look. I feel like they have had Tuesday and Wednesday releases in the past. Not sure it means anything. Extension related, I am curious to see whe...Jump to post
Two thoughts: 1. I'm beginning to think this will become more prevalent, as the airlines aren't going to be able to get the staffing in a timely manner. Flights holding out for gates is nothing new and has been normal operations for at least the better part of the past 20 years. So common that my i...Jump to post
Andrew Watterson was recently interviewed on local news in Hawaii. 1:20 mark probably relevant to the cuts we saw.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/video/202 ... ssian-oil/
It's interesting that lots of A.netters were predicting that WN would perhaps wipe out AS's Hawaii business from the west coast but it doesn't seem to happening that way. I do think once things hopefully return to a more normal environment, there will certainly be enough business for our 3 current ...Jump to post
Does SAN-KOA on Southwest even run outside Christmas and Spring Break? Because I took it in December and looked in January and it didn't appear to be running that month (same with SMF-KOA). Outside of HNL, Southwest doesn't look very consistent with their SAN-Hawaii schedules. SAN-KOA was running i...Jump to post
SAN-ELP is resuming in a quick update for the WN summer schedule! 1X Daily, time is different on Saturday. cutting LIH,OGG,KOA ouch hopefully it’s just because of fuel. Very interesting. Did any other cities get their Hawaii service cut? SAN is also getting IND back in June. I will say due to the c...Jump to post
barney captain wrote:A MAX8 in gold will be beautiful!
ikramerica wrote:As long as people continue to travel while sick, having a sneeze muffler is okay with me. And since airlines make you forfeit tickets if you cancel (except WN), it leads to people traveling while sick.
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Hello Garrett The image appears acceptable and a note for the screeners on upload it was unavoidable would be apopropriate. Hi Paul, I will level with you, I am absolutely SHOCKED with your answer. That photo (yes it is my image) is atrocious and I would not want my name associated with such subpar...Jump to post
I've seen load factors posted on this forum for WN in Hawaii. If accurate, they're not good at all. Very bad actually. I'd be surprised if there wasn't some cuts coming down the pike. WN is not used to flying money losing routes and adding interisland flights in a market where the entire state is w...Jump to post
Anecdotally, despite their efforts to build goodwill among the people in Hawaii, Iʻve yet to meet someone who has switched from HA to WN for interisland or West Coast flying. All my friends in Maui moved to WN for inter island and mainland. Granted I don’t have a lot of friends in Maui so my sample...Jump to post
As crazy as some people think that’s 65-100 number departures at HNL, more likely 65-75 they are already at 34 and will be 37 at least by the end of the year and rumored that by the end of the year they will be at 50 departures by year end depending on the situation it doesn’t seem out of the realm...Jump to post
Personally I think there’s been some misinterpretation with the WN expansion rumors. I wonder if instead of the goal of 100+ daily flights at HNL they actually mean ETOPS crossings to/from the islands. As for local sentiments regarding tourism…they blame tourists on the COVID numbers yet the numbers...Jump to post
Oh wow! Thanks for the update. Those are indeed great gates to at. I wonder if it will be permanent? Once HA moves its domestic mainland operations to it’s new concourse WN will end up with 7 permanent E gates and use gates F1 and F2 for midday operations only. WN will have the ability to further i...Jump to post
Here were the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of Hawaii in May 2021: HNL-ITO - 9307 passengers, 42525 seats, 21.89% load factor HNL-KOA - 10837 passengers, 42875 seats, 25.28% load factor HNL-LGB - 8272 passengers, 10850 seats, 76.24% load factor HNL-LIH -...Jump to post
Just out of curiosity and not to throw the thread off, but why are there still so many Canyon Blue jets? Why is WN taking so long to respray them into Heart liv? Aircraft are painted when the lifespan of the previous paint job has expired or when the aircraft enters a heavy maintenance check. It ta...Jump to post
Correct. Payroll support is an alternative to unemployment insurance. Without PSP, there would be thousands of airline employees out of work. It's a far more expensive alterative to unemployment insurance. Even with the additional monies and time, unemployment payments are completely dwarfed by the...Jump to post
This has been a challenging year for the airlines, Southwest included. They have some DEEP soul searching to do with employees being worked to the MAX and being ”plane” exhausted. I’ve heard accounts of agents walking off the job and other departments calling out sick from being overworked and burn...Jump to post
Saw this picture posted on Facebook group.
Is this the 50th anniversary bird?
A 800NG Rebranded as 500WN?
was flying through DEN on my way to GJT and every gate on C was full of WN and then I counted 27 just on the west side of the airport waiting for gates. What a mess. Not ok. Even with all the IT meltdowns at WN that seems unacceptabe. Clearly WN was a mess and that IT meltdown drained alot of other...Jump to post
No, I assume DL and AS will continue to use E. I also just found this picture on Google of WNs new ticket counter setup in Lobby 7 at HNL which appears to be between DL and AAs counter. Looks much better than their old setup in Lobby 6 which was cramped and has no inline baggage screening. https://...Jump to post
I’d assume HA will move all their mainland flights out of C and D into the new concourse so there will be room on C open. If the Diamond Head concourse is indeed closing for renovations then I could see UA moving ops into C/Ewa Concourse until the renovations are finished. Wn should get however man...Jump to post
Looks like WN has moved the vast majority of its operations to the E Gates in HNL. I’m not showing any flights today using the ground level Gates G7-G10, although it appears they are still using Gate G6 and F1/2 for overflow operations. Yesterday I worked what I’m thinking might’ve been the last sc...Jump to post
I think the easier calculation for the company until things calm down is: does alcohol make cabin crew's ability to ensure safety and compliance better or worse, so long as these incidents are on the rise? The answer is automatic. But that's exactly it, without even bothering to look at people drin...Jump to post
Hopefully they will move their baggage claim closer to the exit as well. Lobby 6 is one of the worst lobbies in HNL with the counters being so close to the curb, there’s not much room to walk around. I noticed Lobby 7 had empty counter between DL and AA so I guess this is where WN is going. I don’t...Jump to post
It looks like WN is using jetways at concourse E and F in addition to there hard stands at G so they must be finding more space for all the new flights they want to do Right now if it’s a MAX it’s getting a jetway. G1, G6, F1, E4 and E6 have been used since they entered the rotation. Does HNL have ...Jump to post
It looks like WN is using jetways at concourse E and F in addition to there hard stands at G so they must be finding more space for all the new flights they want to do Right now if it’s a MAX it’s getting a jetway. G1, G6, F1, E4 and E6 have been used since they entered the rotation. Interesting I’...Jump to post
Wneast wrote:It looks like WN is using jetways at concourse E and F in addition to there hard stands at G so they must be finding more space for all the new flights they want to do
What is Southwests plan for expanding the beverage service back to normal? Plan? What plan? Nothing changing anytime soon from what I’ve heard unfortunately. Maybe someone else has better information though. Some expanded service modifications are coming mid June and July for flights to/from Hawaii...Jump to post