Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

Definitely nothing like I expected. Phenomenal. Stunning! Gorgeous! Lots of thought went into this one. Southwest should make this their new scheme. My friends that are locals thought it was appropriation in the worst possible way. It’s culturally insensitive to use this when you used the flags for...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

factor everything in it's a perfect world scenario Airlines aren’t interested in smooth, well oiled ground operations anymore. A “perfect world” scenario is an inefficient one. If to a degree planes aren’t holding out, customers aren’t waiting, bags aren’t missing etc. then there’s plenty of resour...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

The Yahoo finance page when you enter the stock code for any company will show the next earnings date. Very smart indeed to unveil " Hawaii One " on the 4 year anniversary of opening up Hawaii. Well played Strategy to take away the attention of the potential and anticipated first quarter ...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

The Yahoo finance page when you enter the stock code for any company will show the next earnings date. Very smart indeed to unveil " Hawaii One " on the 4 year anniversary of opening up Hawaii. Well played Strategy to take away the attention of the potential and anticipated first quarter ...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

sonnyr23 wrote:

First quarter earning date is 4-27 so the day after to unveil Hawaii One.

Re: Hawaii Aviation - 2023

Any idea on when HNL will finish with this runway construction... doesn't look like it will be done this month, which I thought it was supposed to be done by Its been pushed back another 80 days (highly doubt it since it is Hawaii construction and things are never done on time) due to the asphalt t...

Re: Hawaii Aviation - 2023

Any idea on when HNL will finish with this runway construction... doesn't look like it will be done this month, which I thought it was supposed to be done by Its been pushed back another 80 days (highly doubt it since it is Hawaii construction and things are never done on time) due to the asphalt t...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

I just got off the phone with her to make sure I had my facts straight, but there was talk just before COVID about European routes for WN. However, they’re currently mulling over how to deal with the spike in inflight incidents before revisiting the idea. Hawaii was sort of sprung on them at the la...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

WN opened a brand new Command Center in HNL. This is unheard of for a station this size, and one of only 18 in the rest of the system. Interesting to note that the MAX7 is not only being considered for long haul to Hawai'i, but as a better sized aircraft for interisland. "Southwest Airlines is...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

WN opened a brand new Command Center in HNL. This is unheard of for a station this size, and one of only 18 in the rest of the system. Interesting to note that the MAX7 is not only being considered for long haul to Hawai'i, but as a better sized aircraft for interisland. "Southwest Airlines is...

Re: Hawaii Aviation - 2023

Hawaiian today announced frankly shockingly bad financial results this week. https://newsroom.hawaiianairlines.com/releases/hawaiian-holdings-reports-2022-fourth-quarter-and-full-year-financial-results They have plenty of liquidity, but considering the current premium tourism market boom, full flig...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

Heard that SNL did a spoof on Southwest last night on The Holiday meltdown. The skit is just another reminder that the meltdown isn’t being forgotten as quickly as SW thought it would. There seems to be some tone deaf leadership at SW. The promotions following the implosion seems illogical. They sh...

Re: Yeti Airlines AT75 crash in Nepal

Do we think that the height out the window is consistent with the height from the externally-filmed video? Do we think that the inside video seems to show some light fog/mist below whereas the outside video seems not to show same? Inside is facing into the sun so everything is backlit (and shooting...

Re: Runway Incursion at JFK 1/13/23

Just watched ABC report on their Monday night network news. Lead in to report that both planes were on takeoff, visuals showed several different AA 737s. Sloppy reporting by ABC, and they are supposedly number 1 network news, accuracy is not even close. Aviation reporting is a joke in general. They...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

I think the outdated IT problems are being looked at all wrong. There’s no off the shelf fix here. People are talking like if they just buy new IT like it’s the latest iPhone after ignoring an eligible upgrade for years everything will be fixed. This goes much, much deeper.

Re: Confusion over retro liveries

I flew on the new Herbert D. Kelleher this past Sunday from OGG-SJC. Aside from a few pax in the gate area going “ooooh look a 49ers plane!” it was just another flight on a WN 737.

I was excited though!

Re: Ramp Worker Killed at MGM in accident

Dramatic? Huh. Red confetti out the tail pipe of a airplane engine is dramatic not to mention traumatic. Proper safety habits, that's just common sense. But all know that is something that has quite a variability in its application in today's world. Read my post of the examples from just my life wh...

Re: Ramp Worker Killed at MGM in accident

Oh, absolutely...I don't work for WN, but I'm uncomfortable seeing them doing that even at a distance. Let’s stop being dramatic. My airport has mechanics approaching aircraft of all airlines and aircraft types immediately upon shutdown for ETOPS checks just as quickly as what you might witness on ...

Re: Ramp Worker Killed at MGM in accident

And yet they‘re the only ones who only approach the aircraft after the pilot has signaled deliberately that he has cut the engines. WN has spent a lot of effort in recent years catching up to safety procedures that have been industry standard for years. Maybe this is one unique WN procedure that sh...

Re: Ramp Worker Killed at MGM in accident

WN is a different beast in so many aspects. And yet they‘re the only ones who only approach the aircraft after the pilot has signaled deliberately that he has cut the engines. WN has spent a lot of effort in recent years catching up to safety procedures that have been industry standard for years. M...

Re: Ramp Worker Killed at MGM in accident

Having worked gates next to your crews at my one airport, you do engage the a/c much earlier than I have ever trained anyone to approach. You are correct in your statement and I have witnessed your staff and beltloaders perform said action countless times. Your observation echoes my own experience....

Re: Ramp Worker Killed at MGM in accident

A windmilling engine will cause injury if you reach in and touch the spinning blades but windmilling creates no suction power so standing in front of it isn’t a problem. An engine’s suction drops exponentially the moment it’s shut down. Since at my airline we have an engine cut/clear to approach sig...

Re: Ramp Worker Killed at MGM in accident

If they were comfortable enough to be wearing earbuds on the job, that's not something I would expect from somebody still on probation. I’m a ramp trainer and I literally just had a discussion with my training supervisor 30 minutes ago about problems with our recent new hire classes quickly develop...

Re: NFL Damar Hamlin suffered critical injury

Finally got a chance to watch and analyze the tackle. I see two significant hits to his chest, the initial hit as he makes the tackle and then he falls chest first with full force directly onto the helmet of the player he tackled. Possible he landed on the facemask. At first glance it seems like a n...

Re: Ramp Worker Killed at MGM in accident

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong but one thing I’ve observed while driving around service roads at multiple airports is that unlike my airline, no one else seems to have a signal from their marshaller that tells the rest of the ramp crew that the engines are cut and it’s safe to enter the saf...

Re: Ramp Worker Killed at MGM in accident

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong but one thing I’ve observed while driving around service roads at multiple airports is that unlike my airline, no one else seems to have a signal from their marshaller that tells the rest of the ramp crew that the engines are cut and it’s safe to enter the safe...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

I don't think that email to the DEN rampers is very well aligned with number 3 above. Southwest needs to seriously break away from the Herb Kelleher era (it’s over; have a symbolic funeral in the HQ parking lot), dump the Luv Ya Bunches bullsh!t and determine what the best culture for the future is...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Or he has stepped in it! He will be fired and he knows it. While it has nothing to do with Bob Jordan, as the CEO and and the person in charge of what will turn into the largest collapse of air service in the history of the United States, he will be fired. I would imagine you'll see the Sr VP of Op...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

ChetManly24 wrote:

Almost bet money they are gonna ask Gary to come back for a couple months. A leader is needed. Bob is not a Leader.

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

That’s going to be a whole lot of customers who will never fly SWA again Yes they will. The next time they need to fly and check two free bags they’ll forget all about it. These things happen a few times a year, the airlines point to each other and say look it’s happening to everyone, the story eve...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

WN cancelled 7 of 8 flights to MHT on Christmas Eve which seems disproportionately high for one city. It was a bit windy in the morning but fine most of the day so can't really blame the weather. Operational problems like this really stranded a bunch of passengers at a very bad time. There’s no hid...

Re: 36 Injured on Hawaiian Airlines Flight

This thread was a frustrating read… 36 people injured, 16 were apparently minor, 20 were taken to the hospital and 11 of those were seriously hurt. Let’s assume the 3 crew members were part of the 11 most serious since it would be understandable for them to be up at the time. So out of 278 passenger...

Re: Mid-air collision at Dallas Executive Airshow

Boys and Girls can we PLEASE stay on topic? This threads turning into a complete mess as per usual on here. Let's not throw blame around and let's wait for the investigations to be concluded before we go on about banning all airshows. May all concerned Rest In Peace. IMO, the fact that we can't see...

Re: Mid-air collision at Dallas Executive Airshow

Jesus some of these comments…

It looks to be a parade of warbirds, they were turning inbound on the show course and the P-63 lost sight of the B-17 below and to his right as he made a left turn.

Very sad and tragic.

Re: Hawaiian Aviation Thread - 2022

They're blaming it on the reconstruction of runway 8L in HNL, but that doesn't make sense. Almost 90% of my flights take off from 8R/reef runway anyway. They knew about this construction project so they should have adjusted their schedules accordingly. I’m not familiar with what’s going on over at ...

Re: United pokes fun at Southwest boarding process in a new ad

The second issue, and reason why WN is constantly dragged about its boarding process, has to do with the element of uncertainty that, generally, humans don't like. Yes, if you book a basic economy fare or book close-in, you're more likely to end up with a subpar seat on AA/DL/US (with the caveat th...

Re: United pokes fun at Southwest boarding process in a new ad

I have boarded WN in C and always had room for my bag in the overhead bin. Why? Because WN does not charge for checked bags. Interesting. Have you ever seen people checking bags at a WN check-in counter? I haven't but maybe it's just the routes I fly them on which tend to be more business oriented ...

Re: United pokes fun at Southwest boarding process in a new ad

Looking forward to that call from United on Sunday for my WN flight Monday. So nice of them!

Re: Southwest Classic Colors Max8

I dunno, looks bad ass to me and I was also never a huge fan of the mustard livery. All you guys nitpicking window frames or painted flap fairings.....who really cares, it doesn't have to be an exact replica. Just how AA didn't do exact replicas of their retrojets. Uh, we care which is why we are d...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Some more photos of N871HK, courtesy of Woodys Aeroimages: https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/status/1577127177858220032 Is there any particular reason why WN seems to insist on getting their own retro color scheme wrong? So far as I can tell, the only jets they ever had with a golden-hued top and...

Re: Southwest Classic Colors Max8

If I see one more photo from that location…heh Now pull that thing back into paint and paint the flap fairings red and windows white! :hissyfit: Don't care about the red flap fairings, as the -200s/-300s/-500s didn't have them, but YES, without the white window outlines this 'retro' scheme just doe...

Re: Southwest Classic Colors Max8

If I see one more photo from that location…heh

Now pull that thing back into paint and paint the flap fairings red and windows white!

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

IMHO, despite the fading issues with Canyon Blue, that color scheme could have lasted another 10 years as WNs livery. It looks way better than the current paint job. I used to think so but after spending a few years in a location that only sees the current heart livery, when I travel and see the ca...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

I find it confusing and amusing that they are getting a “retro” Canyon Blue aircraft painted. I see that paint scheme daily. They should wait until the fleet is repainted before bringing something *back* that hasn’t left. I know at least two of the original retro golds, n711hk and n714cb, came befo...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

sonnyr23 wrote:

One of my favorites was The Silver Bullet as we called it. I recall The Sports Illustrated Swim Suit Model that was on a 700. Didn't last very long before it was taken out of service and restored to its original colors.

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

https://twitter.com/itripreport/status/1574816714151411712?s=46&t=AgSznkCrvKBPUJm4dxqa2Q https://twitter.com/aeroimageschris/status/1575164858899001344?s=46&t=AgSznkCrvKBPUJm4dxqa2Q The Desert Gold retro has rolled out of paint! It’s still not exactly the original livery. Agree. It’s missin...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Rock bottom would mean it only gets better from here. We can only hope. But Herb’s culture has been gone a long time, at least on the frontlines. I learned a long time ago that when you hear about how it’s a top company to work for they’re really talking about the corporate side. Don’t get me wrong,...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

sonnyr23 wrote:

I'm thinking that Mr. Jordan was Frazzled by The Pilots picketing @ The Airport which is why his speech was so short. Well Played by The Pilots Union.

Re: In flight Ukulele lesson on WN LGB-HNL

FLALEFTY wrote:

Tough crowd!

I think it was a fun little stunt that I bet most on that flight enjoyed. But you can't please everyone...

Re: 737-200 CNO-HNL