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by FX1816
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Is Hawaiian Airlines going to fly nonstop to Orlando?
Replies: 18
Views: 3605

Re: Is Hawaiian Airlines going to fly nonstop to Orlando?

I see Ontario, Oakland and Osaka. No Orlando. Interesting that it has ONT in the list, HAL stopped serving ONT late 2004. It’s clearly shown as a discontinued destination. Surprised it was that long ago though. You're right, the computer I was using at the time didn't have any of the markings showi...

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by FX1816
Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:22 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: eBay Preorder Question
Replies: 4
Views: 843

Re: eBay Preorder Question

Just curious what the group thinks . I pre-ordered a 1:200 BA B744 in the special Landor Livery back in late March. Is it the InFlight200 model? If so then that is why there is such a wait. InFlight is very, VERY inconsistent with their announcements and actual delivery. I pre order with a shop nea...

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by FX1816
Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Is Hawaiian Airlines going to fly nonstop to Orlando?
Replies: 18
Views: 3605

Re: Is Hawaiian Airlines going to fly nonstop to Orlando?

a318 wrote:
I see Ontario, Oakland and Osaka. No Orlando.


Interesting that it has ONT in the list, HAL stopped serving ONT late 2004.

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by FX1816
Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A220 route additions
Replies: 344
Views: 22005

Re: SFO, ATL, SJC, MSY, SNA, FAI, LAS to gain A220 service by year-end 2019

Surprised not to see ONT get some C-Series (A220) love for their ONT-SLC ops. Since they use the 717, A319, CRJ's, and once in a blue moon the 738. A B738 once in a blue moon? DAL1788 SLC-ONT and DAL2153 ONT-SLC has been a B738 for quite a while now. This past week they were also running a B738 on ...

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by FX1816
Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pleasant Hawaiian Holidays and American Trans Air
Replies: 21
Views: 3390

Re: Pleasant Hawaiian Holidays and American Trans Air

I flew ATA LAX-HNL-LAX in July of 1998. It was a package my parents had purchased from Pleasant Hawaiian. It was a nice flight both ways. We left LAX around 1030 and then arrived back at LAX 10 days later at around 2230.

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by FX1816
Wed May 29, 2019 5:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is the MD11 a dodgy aircraft?
Replies: 35
Views: 9132

Re: Is the MD11 a dodgy aircraft?

Several MD-11s and one DC-10 (UA232) have done it. Not to quibble, but UA 232 was not a hard landing -> broken wing spar -> roll, it literally cartwheeled across the field due to loss of control because of the hydraulic routing issue. Someone posted in the tech ops thread (I think) that an essentia...

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by FX1816
Sat May 04, 2019 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why doesn't America have an international leisure airline?
Replies: 56
Views: 9419

Re: Why doesn't America have an international leisure airline?

Cultural and geographic. Brit's holding passport: 75% Canadians holding passport: 60% Americans holding passport: 36% The geography is important both on the point about "cultural issues" and on the larger question in the thread, I think. Consider this statistic: Brits who need a passport ...

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by FX1816
Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest's 737-200s
Replies: 36
Views: 7706

Re: Southwest's 737-200s

I don't have specific dates for everything, but on May 3, 2002, SWAPA signed the Side-Letter with SWA outlining the -200 drawdown and I know it was implemented very shortly (possibly the next month) afterwards. I believe we were down to 50 -200's then and they were sequestered to the DAL/HOU domici...

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by FX1816
Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019
Replies: 714
Views: 97436

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

The only 2 ABX 767's we had at ONT were both white tails. One was all white and the other had the ABX Air titles on the fuselage with the small stripes.

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by FX1816
Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LAX moves forward with plans for Terminal 0 and 9
Replies: 202
Views: 34426

Re: LAX moves forward with plans for Terminal 0 and 9

WALmsp wrote:
FX1816 wrote:
SRT75 wrote:
So where do FedEx and the cargo operators go?


FedEx is moving to ONT.


Why would these new terminals affect cargo carriers? Their ops are on the south side of the runways, way from all the construction.


It won't matter for FedEx either way as they will be moving the operation to ONT anyways.

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by FX1816
Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LAX moves forward with plans for Terminal 0 and 9
Replies: 202
Views: 34426

Re: LAX moves forward with plans for Terminal 0 and 9

Ezra wrote:
Does Terminal 0 mean that In-n-Out would have to close?


In-N-Out is north of RWY24R, this would be south of RWY24L.

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by FX1816
Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LAX moves forward with plans for Terminal 0 and 9
Replies: 202
Views: 34426

Re: LAX moves forward with plans for Terminal 0 and 9

SRT75 wrote:
So where do FedEx and the cargo operators go?


FedEx is moving to ONT.

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by FX1816
Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Crash in Yorba Linda, CA
Replies: 81
Views: 15519

Re: Crash in Yorba Linda, CA

So very sad. I saw the plane take off as I was near Knott's Berry Farm at the time.

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by FX1816
Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019
Replies: 714
Views: 97436

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

Happy New Year to all. I look forward to all the growth with Amazon and I'll do my best to keep you all up to date on the happenings at ONT.

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by FX1816
Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Flying Questions
Replies: 22
Views: 3578

Re: Peak Flying Questions

There's been an Asia Pacific Airlines 757 doing flights for UPS between ONT and PDX on and off since last week. I missed it by a couple minutes this morning; anyone know if it's going to be doing any flying tomorrow or Friday? It also flies between ONT and BFI, it just left. It should be here at ON...

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by FX1816
Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Announces CMH-SLC, DTW-SMF
Replies: 27
Views: 4388

Re: DL Announces CMH-SLC, DTW-SMF

Atl-ont seems like something to try the a220 on That would be a serious downgrade from the 737-900's that will do the eventual twice daily runs. based on their previous exit on this route and other factors I would argue the 739 is too much airplane and the A220 might work better. The 757's and 767'...

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by FX1816
Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Announces CMH-SLC, DTW-SMF
Replies: 27
Views: 4388

Re: DL Announces CMH-SLC, DTW-SMF

micstatic wrote:
Atl-ont seems like something to try the a220 on


That would be a serious downgrade from the 737-900's that will do the eventual twice daily runs.

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by FX1816
Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why does Delta fly CLE-BDL?
Replies: 37
Views: 4396

Re: Why does Delta fly CLE-BDL?

Is this Delta's only route that doesn't involve a hub or focus city? No, there are countless others: DCA-LEX/MSN/OMA/MIA LAS-SJC/ONT CUN-BWI/CMH/BDL/IND/MCI/MKE/BNA/MSY/PIT/TPA CMH-MIA There are more that I am missing, plus, there is all the MCO stuff, which technically isn't a focus city Delta doe...

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by FX1816
Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Growth - 2018
Replies: 853
Views: 107722

Re: Amazon Fleet Growth - 2018

Does Amazon Prime have a hub in ONT? I saw about a dozen when I was there. No, only CVG is considered a hub, but ONT is a very big outstation. About half of the network is running point-to-point, while the other half is hub ops through CVG. It remains to be seen how the PTP operation will be affect...

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by FX1816
Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Growth - 2018
Replies: 853
Views: 107722

Re: Amazon Fleet Growth - 2018

Re: Moving to March ARB Very interesting. Amazon was certainly developing a large presence at ONT; too bad it all couldn't fit right now. RIV is only 20 minutes away by car, and certainly has the airport infrastructure (runways 13,300 by 200 feet) to handle the business. The question is whether Ama...

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by FX1816
Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011
Replies: 250
Views: 18350

Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

KICT wrote:
Speaking of ONT, the CI 77W flight uses airstairs...


Only for the arrival, then it moves to Gate 212 for the outbound.

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by FX1816
Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011
Replies: 250
Views: 18350

Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Used airstairs for a 767 on DEN-LGB in 1986 AA flew a DC-10 to ONT during the late 90's for a short period, prior to the new terminals opening and it was a stairway. Also, I believe HA flew a DC-10 as well in the 90's. Matt I think HA was a L1011 In 1993/94 HA was running an L1011 but from 2002-200...

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by FX1816
Wed May 30, 2018 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Could CFM International offer the B-722 a new lease on life?
Replies: 58
Views: 8694

Re: Could CFM International offer the B-722 a new lease on life?

It was the RR Tay engine, which was a solution available only for the -100 series. That was fine because that's the only 727 version that UPS ever flew. Not exactly, http://www.airliners.net/photo/United-Parcel-Service-UPS/Boeing-727-247-Adv-F/1476264?qsp=eJwtjEEOgzAMBP/iMxeaUiFu5QPtoR%2BwHBcipRDZP...

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by FX1816
Sat May 26, 2018 8:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Could CFM International offer the B-722 a new lease on life?
Replies: 58
Views: 8694

Re: Could CFM International offer the B-722 a new lease on life?

there was a mod with the ROLLS BR715 that UPS did on some B727-200 airplanes if I recall correctly. It was the RR Tay engine, which was a solution available only for the -100 series. That was fine because that's the only 727 version that UPS ever flew. Not exactly, http://www.airliners.net/photo/Un...

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by FX1816
Mon May 21, 2018 7:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Airlines announces TPE-ONT service
Replies: 301
Views: 41533

Re: China Airlines announces TPE-ONT service

The flight should be nighttime to allow for more connections to MNL, SGN, etc. Operating it during the daytime was a mistake. Does a heavy wide body takeoff count towards the night restrictions at ONT? On the airport website says no high power engine maintenance runs after 10 pm. I highly doubt tha...

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by FX1816
Sun May 13, 2018 1:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nolinor Aviation refits a 737-200 with modern avionics
Replies: 94
Views: 15161

Re: Nolinor Aviation refits a 737-200 with modern avionics

Wow so cool! By far my favorite and the sexiest 737 in my opinion. Does anyone know the stats on how many 732’s are still active today for pax ops? Canadian North, Air Inuit, Nolinor, Air North, I assume a few other northern Canada airlines. You will also find a few down in Mexico, the Bahamas and ...

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by FX1816
Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Miami-Ft. Lauderdale-Miami 1981
Replies: 39
Views: 5822

Re: Miami-Ft. Lauderdale-Miami 1981

SF traffic is no joke. The worst drivers on the planet. Crazy that these 2 airports had flights between them though that's like flying ORD-MDW or JFK-EWR. On a side note didn't B6 (a few years back) fly between LAX and ONT to avoid traffic for locals looking to hit the beach for the day? Nope, JetB...

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by FX1816
Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When Will B6 Pull Out of LGB?
Replies: 110
Views: 20582

Re: When Will B6 Pull Out of LGB?

**2nd frequency BUR-JFK Flt#2358 Dep 11:41 Arr 20:05 **New-BUR-BOS FLT#2338 Dep 20:08 Arr 04:40 **New-ONT-JFK FLT#354 Dep 23:59 Arr 08:24 Rumors of LGB reduction and elimination of most west coast-West coast markets. I’m not seeing it. seeing 34 daily total some modest increases in some markets. LG...

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by FX1816
Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:53 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Jetliners that have been fully withdrawn from operation
Replies: 31
Views: 4066

Re: Jetliners that have been fully withdrawn from operation

For L1011, Stargazer ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargazer_(aircraft) ) apparently is still in ONT and might meet the "one single flying example left in existence" test. Nope, I made sure I cleared N140SC for take off and it left ONT two weeks ago for MHV. I was quite happy to get to ...

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by FX1816
Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:36 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Jetliners that have been fully withdrawn from operation
Replies: 31
Views: 4066

Re: Jetliners that have been fully withdrawn from operation

VC10’s are gone. RAF retired them a few years ago. Would also add L1011 (all variants) and 737-100 For L1011, Stargazer ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargazer_(aircraft) ) apparently is still in ONT and might meet the "one single flying example left in existence" test. Nope, I made sur...

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by FX1816
Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: 2nd Asian airline to ONT
Replies: 43
Views: 5385

Re: Rumor: 2nd Asian airline to ONT

MAH4546 wrote:
To replace China Airlines? I heard it's doing horribly and they are out in October.


Uh yeah, I'm going to call BS on this one.

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by FX1816
Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Airlines announces TPE-ONT service
Replies: 301
Views: 41533

Re: China Airlines announces TPE-ONT service

It looks like ONT has a separate International Arrivals Building that has no jetbridges. Are they going to process a 77W full of people in there using stairs or are there plans to move FIS to the terminal complex? Is there a 77W-capable gate at ONT? You know what, LAX did the same thing that many a...

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by FX1816
Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fedex LAX
Replies: 11
Views: 1894

Re: Fedex LAX

Later this year FedEx is breaking ground on a new sorting facility at ONT. It will be on the northwest side with parking for 14 aircraft, 14 feeder caravans and 4 ATR aircraft. Is this to replace their LAX hub, or to supplement it? Yeah, that's a good question. SEA is one of the busiest FX ramps in...

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by FX1816
Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fedex LAX
Replies: 11
Views: 1894

Re: Fedex LAX

Longer term, however, I'd expect FX to close it and move work to lower cost location. If the idea is to stay in the general area I think ONT is a no-brainer, but that's way down the road and that's also a huge capital expenditure we are talking about. Later this year FedEx is breaking ground on a n...

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by FX1816
Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Austin Texas Thread - 2018
Replies: 802
Views: 79756

Re: Austin Texas Thread - 2018

Yeah, if Ontario (ONT) can get service to Taipei (TPE), I think AUS should have service to NRT and ICN. With that being said, KE recently ended ICN-IAH, so the likelihood of a ICN route from AUS is lower to that degree... Is there a large Asian population in the Austin area to justify the Asian ser...

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by FX1816
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Airlines announces TPE-ONT service
Replies: 301
Views: 41533

Re: China Airlines announces TPE-ONT service

So any news of how its all working out, as it started Mar 25. Any issues with customs/immigration etc. Anyone working there notice if they are loading lots of cargo? No real issues so far. They arrive on time or early and then deplane at the international arrivals building. They then reposition to ...

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by FX1816
Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Growth - 2018
Replies: 853
Views: 107722

Re: Amazon Fleet Growth - 2018

Is there a change to PVD because we have a flight, GTI3553 ONT-PVD. Now last night I taxied them out and they stopped and sat on TWY N for almost an hour and I thought it was a mechanical issue but they crew told me that there was something going and the CAT III ILS would not be available to them s...

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by FX1816
Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Growth - 2018
Replies: 853
Views: 107722

Re: Amazon Fleet Growth - 2018

Now that I think of it, the ONT-PVD typically arrives before the tower opens at 0530. Maybe that's why the CAT III ILS wasn't available to them. But with the delay at ONT they would have arrived after the tower opened. That is what I thought they might have meant that the tower wouldn't be staffed ...

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by FX1816
Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Current Status of SXM and other damaged airports
Replies: 29
Views: 6795

Re: Current Status of SXM and other damaged airports

I will be in Sint Maarten and Anguilla during the first week of August and am really curious to see how it is doing and how much will be done between now and then.

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by FX1816
Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: If UA and CO had NOT merged, would UA end up ordering the 737ng/max?
Replies: 30
Views: 3368

Re: If UA and CO had NOT merged, would UA end up ordering the 737ng/max?

Take a step back. Had UA and CO not gotten together, what would have happened? I don't think UA would be a standalone carrier today. The Tilton era UA always had a merger or acquisition as the end goal. The most likely alternative to a CO merger would have been a merger with US. In that situation, ...

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by FX1816
Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Growth - 2018
Replies: 853
Views: 107722

Re: Amazon Fleet Growth - 2018

1511A has now arrived at PSM from TLV (4/4/18). We'll see when/where it goes for paint. New network is up as of today. Still some slack in the Atlas fleet -- so far at least. But it looks preliminarily like a little more utilization. We'll see as these routes play out over the next few days. Observ...

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by FX1816
Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TW 757s remaining in DL Fleet
Replies: 43
Views: 6917

Re: TW 757s remaining in DL Fleet

I flew on AA in July 2005 and was on an exTW 757 SMF-DFW. I remember it having drop down TVs and only learning years later the only AA 757s that had that were the TWA ones. AA is also operating ex TW MD-80s, some of the last on the line. And doesn’t ABX air or DHL have a few 767-231Fs? You are corr...

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by FX1816
Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS at SBD
Replies: 9
Views: 1167

Re: UPS at SBD

wjcandee wrote:
ONT has really become a major network node for Amazon Air. Our friends out there must be thrilled.


Yup we love it and we are hearing at the tower that we may be up to 15 flights a day by summer time including one to HNL by GTI.

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by FX1816
Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS at SBD
Replies: 9
Views: 1167

Re: UPS at SBD

Not sure why UPS flies there but it is usually UPS902 a 763 from HNL. That flight used to be an MD11 into ONT.

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by FX1816
Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ONT taking design bids for their new International terminal.
Replies: 37
Views: 4120

Re: ONT taking design bids for their new International terminal.

Wasn’t ONT a booming airport at one time? Seems like there is so much potential. What happened? (I’m just looking for a quick summary, not a debate that hijacks the thread). Pre 9/11 yes. The 2 new terminals opened in 98. I attended the soft opening at ONT where WN flew in California One for displa...

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by FX1816
Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: L-1011 at ONT
Replies: 56
Views: 9570

Re: L-1011 at ONT

DarkSnowyNight wrote:
cschleic wrote:
Too early to know when it'll be finished and depart? Could be worth a trip to ONT to see it fly.



Word at the ONT station is at least April. I'll let you know if I hear more.


Two to three months so April sounds about right. That's what we were told at the Tower.

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by FX1816
Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: L-1011 at ONT
Replies: 56
Views: 9570

Re: L-1011 at ONT

TurboJet707 wrote:
A wonderful aircraft! An extremely rare sight nowadays.

I believe this one is in flyable condition too (although not operated on a regular basis):



This L-1011 is not ever operated. I believe it is airworthy but it doesn't move.

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by FX1816
Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: L-1011 at ONT
Replies: 56
Views: 9570

Re: L-1011 at ONT

It is in the Hangar at Guardian Jet Center on the south side of the airport. The tail is still hanging out of the hangar.

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by FX1816
Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Growing
Replies: 1995
Views: 321306

Re: Amazon Fleet Growing

Is it possible that PHX could be a sort center for regional traffic. I know that if you send an overnight FedEx from Phoenix to Tucson it flys to Oakland than on to Tucson. Phoenix could be a great place for a West Coast sort and 2 or 3 flights to the main Sort center in CVG? I really see PHX havin...

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by FX1816
Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Airlines announces TPE-ONT service
Replies: 301
Views: 41533

Re: China Airlines announces TPE-ONT service

Yes indeed it was loaded as Daily in GDS more than a month ago and as media stories picked up at the time. I have zero record of it ever being loaded in GDS as 4x weekly, matter of fact internal CI schedule supplied to LAWA with LAX flight reduction showed ONT being daily as well from start. ONT pr...

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