The panty twisting here is unreal. The airport is not rebranding as San Francisco/Oakland. It’s rebranding as San Francisco BAY/Oakland. The airport itself lies on the SF Bay and the runway extends into the SF Bay. I don’t understand the drama. People love something to whine about too much these da...
Jump to postEmployee feedback was generally not positive. Fortunately roll out is for Spring/Summer of 2026. Plenty of time to make changes. Very chilly reception from employees. Will be interesting to see how much re-work is done before Delta rolls out these uniforms. Why on earth would Delta select The Gap w...
Jump to postUnited’s purchase of Pan Am’s TPAC network was inarguably worth it. The purchase catapulted United’s dominance across the Pacific among its US peer set. None will come close to catching up. United’s and American’s purchases of Heathrow slots were worth it. Delta was only able to really compete when ...
Jump to postThe cabin redesign is part of a larger branding redesign that will include a livery refresh , new uniforms, airport (Check-in, Gate, etc) branding and marketing and advertising. The work has been going on for some time — slowed down and then redirected. Delta worked hard to develop and maintain its...
Jump to postThe cabin redesign is part of a larger branding redesign that will include a livery refresh , new uniforms, airport (Check-in, Gate, etc) branding and marketing and advertising. The work has been going on for some time — slowed down and then redirected. Delta worked hard to develop and maintain its ...
Jump to postWhile I would love to see an A339 on something like LAX-AKL, MSP-ICN, or DTW-HND, by the end of the decade we’ll see the A339 plying those TATL routes out of JFK, DTW, and BOS as the A350s take over the longer routes out of SEA, LAX, MSP, and SLC where it will be more efficient. Should this be the ...
Jump to postAn announcement of the long-awaited and rumored livery refresh with simple tweaks in conjunction with the order would be nice.
The small titling and cream-colored white look very dated.
LAXdude1023 wrote:questions wrote:Is it possible Delta’s move in AUS is setting up for establishing a Mexico, Central America, South America gateway with partners AM and LA?
No.
I don't doubt there was some convenient timing in perhaps "pulling ahead" this announcement in light of the AS merger announcement, however I don't believe this route came completely out of thin air. Had it not been for the pandemic, I would've expected that SEA-TPE probably would already...
Jump to postThe two brand strategy is only a ploy to win approval. Once the two airlines are combined, improving margins will be one of the top goals. You cannot achieve this running two brands. This has been the case with every airline merger that has attempted this strategy. Furthermore, the airline will sta...
Jump to postDL’s strategy to build up SEA as a formidable TPAC hub is toast. They absolutely fumbled. Look for an accelerated draw down in SEA, corporate speak hoopla about KE/ICN and more focus on SLC. SEA is going to be very well served by AS/HA and Oneworld partners in the years to come. I'm an AS Fanboi, a...
Jump to postI think this merger does more to scuttle AA's future international plans in Seattle than to Delta's. I like the dual branding opportunities this merger offers. The similar type branding between the two are a great fit...name-wise and logo-wise!! AS would be foolish to let go of the Hawaiin brand. D...
Jump to postThis is great for AS and HA. As the AS-HA network is optimized, the merger will also be good for AA, its customers and the rest of the Oneworld members. The real loser in this transaction is DL. Look for DL’s accelerated departure from SEA as SEA becomes a Oneworld powerhouse which, ironically, was ...
Jump to postIt wouldn’t be the first time though. Data doesn’t tell you everything, especially how customers are going to respond. They clearly thought removing access on arrival would go over well and ended up backtracking after pushback. They’re making an assumption higher spenders will spend more as a resul...
Jump to posthttps://i.ibb.co/KXrNFfN/20230813-142517.jpg https://i.ibb.co/dM2Q6nM/20230813-142521.jpg Based on the scale model, shown at the unveiling event, I reckon it looks much better. The digital rendering, on the screen, may have screwed up the colours and proportions I'm guessing. “HERO WINDOW FRAME TIP...
Jump to postWhat is one example of an airport that changed its name/rebranded and attracted new routes, frequencies, passenger traffic and profitability for doing so? None. Inept “authorities” listening to overpaid and equally inept marketing consultants leads to such wasteful spend. OAK should spend money on o...
Jump to postWhen DL was initially building up SEA they entered into a partnership with AS. During that period, a number of people said the two airlines could not “get too close” — eg, combining schedules, code sharing, pricing — because of US antitrust laws. When folks asked why AS didn’t join SkyTeam, similar ...
Jump to postThat's not a great argument. To be frank Delta nor American have the network to expand to Asia in the way United has. I don't know if its "printing money" but United isn't investing in billions of dollars worth of 787s to fly them on an unprofitable network across the pacific. That’s real...
Jump to postI find it interesting to watch over the years how UA continues to dominate US carriers in the TPAC market while AA piddles around and DL squanders opportunity after opportunity. UA is positioned for a lot of success in the TPAC market over the next ten years with the right strategy, network, infrast...
Jump to postAs much as I prefer DTW over the mess that is MSP, I doubt either are going away. If one became a “mega hub” and the other a “focus city,” could either absorb the current level of connecting flow of the other AND support 10, 20 year network growth projections? I think people have in their heads UA a...
Jump to postIt's almost certain Delta will pick up more A330-900s and A350-900s. The question is how many. I could see top up orders of 10-20 orders of each. However given United's ambitious expansion plans and flashy 100 aircraft 787 order back in December, Delta might be tempted to pick up 50-100 planes in r...
Jump to postSeems like this is turning into another “delta should do XYZ” or “delta is doing this wrong” thread. To be on topic, curious to see what UA says, it makes sense AA is in favor as all carriers with these slots would likely want some degree of flexibility especially as things have changed post-COVID....
Jump to postThe current uniforms were a fiasco for a number of reasons.
However, there is more to this.
Uniforms are just one element of branding.
Look for other “strategic evolutions.”
I wonder if the refreshed livery will debut on the MAX10.
Jump to postThis isn't just a US thing either. Here in Canada we are not paid for boarding and FA pay, generally speaking, goes from "doors closed to doors open". As an example, there is an IAH turn. The total duty is 8h57min. The "credit" i.e. pay is only 6h37mins. So that 2hr20mins is unp...
Jump to postFlew MCO to MIA then MIA to RIC today. On the MCO-MIA flight only 12 people on an A321 had mask on and the flight to RIC 6 people on a A319 had mask on, both planes were over 95% full. People are over wearing masks on planes and from what I have seen in the airports and on the planes most people wi...
Jump to postairlineworker wrote:A judge making a ruling regarding medical expertise, something he knows nothing about.
Very underwhelming. Low ceilings. Cramped-looking in areas. Looks like it could be hell with multiple flights leaving or delayed at the same time. I suppose it could be considered an incremental improvement over the pitiful old T3, but it’s not really much of an improvement considering it was a com...
Jump to postHunterATL wrote:MDC862 wrote:What is the meaning and usage of the term "Head house?"
Sounds like a location male passengers use to releave themselves.
A headhouse is the landside, non-secure portion of a terminal.
If DL orders the MAX we will have the 5 largest US airlines flying MAXes then; all of the network carriers. Lightsaber Correct me if I’m wrong, wasn’t the 757 the only aircraft to top this? United, Continental, American, US Airways, Delta, Northwest and TWA — flying the 757 at the same time. (Easte...
Jump to postDelta One services were not mentioned (unless I missed it Delta’s press release).
Will Delta have Delta One services like they did in T5?
Oh I get it, there is a lot more tech (HW & SW) on the NEO, but just talking from a pure passenger experience, the NEO is far from a "game-changer". I am sure the new F seat is fine, but in typical fashion of the industry that is today it will be the same experience to pack as many se...
Jump to postDelta gets points for innovation. The seats appear comfortable *when* seated. However, they appear to be challenging to crawl out of to get to the aisle given the rear center console and limited pitch. Unless the back design on the last row is configured differently, the middle seat occupant in Comf...
Jump to postI wonder what configuration they will use. I imagine similar to the 900ER. Delta uses a smaller forward galley in that plane compared to United and Alaska. I could see them keeping the 900ER layout with 9 extra Y seats (189 total). Would imagine they’d want to add a mid-lavatory and unsure if the e...
Jump to postThe standard used to be the measurement between the armrests would give you seat width. That seems to have gone away with the MAX (using cushion width instead?). Classic/NG Page 54/58: http://www.boeing.com/resources/boeingdotcom/commercial/airports/acaps/737NG_REV%20C.pdf MAX Page 26: http://www.b...
Jump to postI just hope this is really true. This would be a sweet victory and a miracle for Boeing. It would break the Airbus walled garden that Delta has had for the past 10 years. I remember there was a lot of bad blood between the two companies that led to the Airbus bias at Delta. Looks like they're on th...
Jump to postThe fact that Dennis Muilenburg resigned and walked out the door with $62M is appalling and absolutely disgusting. He forfeited stock, annual bonus and severance worth an additional $14.6M. Muilenburg received was what he was contractually entitled to receive. He should have walked out with ZERO. Wh...
Jump to postA lot of First class passengers love/d the 2L boarding experience.
Jump to postA330 EI-EJP out of paint shop in SNN https://italiavola.files.wordpress.com/2022/02/628935da-a0b4-4a5b-afaf-5f00ebcf4ff7.jpeg https://italiavola.com/2022/02/16/ita-airways-e-tazio-nuvolari-sul-primo-a330-200/ What a mess. I just don’t understand the relationship between the three very different mai...
Jump to postArticle mentions following decisions - Shape WN network including approaching markets like Canada that was not an option due technology limitations. OMG! How long have legacy U.S. carriers been flying to/from Canada? AA started in 1941 . I may be wrong, but I think WN’s inability to add Canada to i...
Jump to postThank you for summarizing the key decisions, Runway765 and UPlog.
Jump to postPost retirement interview with Gary Kelly. He says he wants the transition to mirror many of the circumstances when he took over as CEO as WN co-founder Herb Kelleher was sitting as executive chairman. He wants everyone to know that Bob Jordan is now the leader in the cockpit, with Kelly taking a w...
Jump to postNot enough incremental value, if any, to use an IAG model for AA+AS+B6 in the US market. The IAG model is a “because we can’t merge” model. AA could make a run for a merger with AS and B6. There would be multiple hurdles for sure. However, AA could gain valuable market share in key markets that othe...
Jump to postThe new business class seats will be popular among those who like to lounge. However for those who prefer or need back support the seat will be awful. People who need to sit up and work will be disappointed unless the pillows are really good. Those over 50 will find them to be gimmicky and probably ...
Jump to postAccording to BA's Director of Brand and Customer Experience, Tom Stevens, BA is looking at changing the configuration of the A350 aircraft because it is so challenging for cabin crew to work on. I've not flown on it, so I can't comment directly, but I have had conversations with crew, who universal...
Jump to postThe airline will now will share the lounges of Oneworld partner American Airlines in Terminal 8 https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/british-airways-to-permanently-close-its-new-york-airport-lounges?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR22NSo-5N9_77-HU5KhGfp3_XT4ymBVd0fySdMbYy...
Jump to postNot surprised.
The impact of the merger on others will be interesting. Or at least how they react to it (not necessarily immediately).
AA’s move in establishing partnerships with AS and B6 was good timing. Or was it for AS and B6?
Would there be any barrier to AF/KL/DL starting their own Milan or FCO based carrier for long-haul out of Italy in the event that ITA goes with LH? Would it make any sense for them to do that or do they just increase frequencies from the USA on DL metal as part of their JV and then run more flights...
Jump to postLet's be honest. I think we all know what direction this rebrand is going. They probably paid millions of dollars to a design firm for something that resembles this thing I crapped out in 20 minutes. https://i.imgur.com/eHtS5rB.png Queue the Marketing Department: The new livery blends the cultural ...
Jump to postJust last night flying ATL-DTW, the dude sitting next to me in F was so strung out I have no idea what drugs he was on. The guy had no idea what was going on. He had no clue where he was, what he was doing, etc. I have never seen a passenger this jacked-up when flying. Let me guess. “Dude” was flyi...
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