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by bthebest
Wed May 06, 2020 12:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 passenger to 'auxilary freighter'
Replies: 63
Views: 12103

Re: A380 passenger to 'auxilary freighter'

Quote from Press Release: "As the workscope comprises much more than just taking out seats, you need engineering experts who know exactly what the challenges are and how to document the technical solutions so correctly that the aviation authorities agree. The current exemption and our solution ...

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by bthebest
Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Test/Publicity Flight (BOE4/787-8) Over US Now.
Replies: 40
Views: 6048

Re: N7874 drawing the shape of a 787 in the sky

Its an ETOPS proving flight for the -TEN engines

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by bthebest
Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Orphan A318
Replies: 20
Views: 6860

Re: BA's Orphan A318

If they already own the aircraft, I can see a business case for holding on to it: *Back-up for 'NA *Back-up for Euro flights if low enough passenger count *VIP charters - corporate, sports teams, government, Royal family *A(C)MI? If they get enough utilisation for it out of this, should be worthwhil...

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by bthebest
Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Etihad Aborts Take-off To Allow A Final Good-bye
Replies: 30
Views: 21380

RE: Etihad Aborts Take-off To Allow A Final Good-bye

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/N14AZ" class="quote" target="_blank">N14AZ</a> (<a href="#1" class="quote">Reply 1</a>):<br/><i>Hmmm, sorry for nitpicking. But do you consider ...

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by bthebest
Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran Says Sanctions To Be Lifted Sat 16 Jan
Replies: 211
Views: 24059

RE: Iran Says Sanctions To Be Lifted Sat 16 Jan

According to the BBC: <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-35336707" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-35336707</a> "Non-nuclear US economic sanctions remain in place, notably the ban on US citizens and companies trading with Iran, and US and EU sanctions on...

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by bthebest
Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA 744 Enroute To YYZ From YVR
Replies: 26
Views: 10770

RE: BA 744 Enroute To YYZ From YVR

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/by738" class="quote" target="_blank">by738</a> (<a href="#19" class="quote">Reply 19</a>):<br/><i>Theres no engineering input needed enroute. Qu...

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by bthebest
Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:36 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: British Pm To Get Own Plane For Official Trips
Replies: 22
Views: 9057

RE: British Pm To Get Own Plane For Official Trips

Abuot time - I've been thinking this should have been part of the plan from when they ordered the MULTI-MISSION A330s <table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/DocLightning" class="quote...

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by bthebest
Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA 747-400 Super High J
Replies: 54
Views: 22204

RE: BA 747-400 Super High J

Just as a side note, BA Source reported that the BA114 on the 15th operated with a fully occupied J cabin. Clearly looks like they can make this work.

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by bthebest
Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA 777 On Fire At Las Vegas - Part 2
Replies: 272
Views: 60073

RE: BA 777 On Fire At Las Vegas - Part 2

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/RRTrent" class="quote" target="_blank">RRTrent</a> (<a href="#106" class="quote">Reply 106</a>):<br/><i><acronym title="British Airways">BA</acr...

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by bthebest
Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA 777 On Fire At Las Vegas - Part 2
Replies: 272
Views: 60073

RE: BA 777 On Fire At Las Vegas - Part 2

To me, the logic of grabbing your bags doesn't stand up either (although I know logic for many people goes out the window in an emergency), when you consider whats going to happen next: 1. The airline, especially one like <acronym title="British Airways">BA</acronym>, will put you up in a nice 5* ho...

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by bthebest
Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:43 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Multiple Airworthiness Certificates
Replies: 14
Views: 4973

RE: Multiple Airworthiness Certificates

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/moo" class="quote" target="_blank">moo</a> (<a href="#7" class="quote">Reply 7</a>):<br/><i>You can get odd restrictions - the 747LCF Dreamlifte...

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by bthebest
Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:41 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Multiple Airworthiness Certificates
Replies: 14
Views: 4973

RE: Multiple Airworthiness Certificates

Having reviewed the FAA certificate rules I can only see one possible 'loophole': Per FAA: You may obtain an airworthiness certificate in the restricted category, and in one or more other categories except primary category. So you could have certificates for Restricted and Experimental. Restricted i...

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by bthebest
Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:30 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Multiple Airworthiness Certificates
Replies: 14
Views: 4973

RE: Multiple Airworthiness Certificates

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/MrChips" class="quote" target="_blank">MrChips</a> (<a href="#1" class="quote">Reply 1</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> This is what I su...

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by bthebest
Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:23 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Multiple Airworthiness Certificates
Replies: 14
Views: 4973

Multiple Airworthiness Certificates

Is it possible for an aircraft to be registered against multiple airworthiness certificates? For example, could you have an aircraft with a Transport certificate and an Experimental certificate so you could use the aircraft as a freighter and also a research aircraft? They would be distinct operatio...

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by bthebest
Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Would Any US Airline Do Joint A380 Ops
Replies: 25
Views: 7711

RE: Would Any US Airline Do Joint A380 Ops

When I saw the title, I thought the suggestion would be 2 carriers sharing an A380 for efficiency purposes. I.e. on trunk routes where both carriers operate, one takes the top deck, the other the bottom deck. They're big enough, you could even have mixed liveries/titles on the aircraft. Fantasy I kn...

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by bthebest
Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Smile Air New 747 Operator
Replies: 47
Views: 10585

RE: Smile Air New 747 Operator

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/32andBelow" class="quote" target="_blank">32andBelow</a> (<a href="#2" class="quote">Reply 2</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> Surprisingl...

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by bthebest
Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlantic Star To ST-Helena From March 2016
Replies: 10
Views: 1997

RE: Atlantic Star To ST-Helena From March 2016

Couple of things stand out: Does this mean they're parking the aircraft at St. Helena for 2 weeks if the outbound leg is mid-March and inbound early April? Also, 12 hours seems a bit too long? only 11 hours or so to <acronym title="Johannesburg - OR Tambo International (Jan Smuts) (JNB / FAOR), Sout...

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by bthebest
Fri May 15, 2015 11:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Passenger Jet 'aborts' Landing BHX
Replies: 44
Views: 16645

RE: Emirates Passenger Jet 'aborts' Landing BHX

Looks like either a runway infringement, or the Metroliner was unable to expedite it's departure as planned. could have had a technical problem or otherwise that wasn't relayed to ATC quick enough for timely instructions to <acronym title="Emirates (United Arab Emirates)">EK</acronym>. <table border...

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by bthebest
Thu May 14, 2015 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What Happened To The BA/AA Shuttle LHR-JFK?
Replies: 46
Views: 14743

RE: What Happened To The BA/AA Shuttle LHR-JFK?

Today's schedule for <acronym title="London - Heathrow (LHR / EGLL), United Kingdom">LHR</acronym> to <acronym title="New York - John F. Kennedy International (Idlewild) (JFK / KJFK), USA - New York">JFK</acronym>: 8.25 9.40 10.05 - <acronym title="American Airlines (USA)">AA</acronym> 11.20 12.50 -...

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by bthebest
Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Presidential Campaign Planes
Replies: 33
Views: 7863

RE: Presidential Campaign Planes

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/delawareusa" class="quote" target="_blank">delawareusa</a> (<a href="#18" class="quote">Reply 18</a>):<br/><i>Yes Obama (or the democratic party...

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by bthebest
Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Presidential Campaign Planes
Replies: 33
Views: 7863

RE: Presidential Campaign Planes

Does a sitting President's campaign have to contribute towards costs of flying AF1 around?

Obviously the State has a duty to protect POTUS, but campaign trips are optional, and not having to pay travel costs would increase available funds for other activities giving an unfair advantage.

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by bthebest
Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Royal Family Air Transport?
Replies: 26
Views: 11998

RE: Royal Family Air Transport?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/BA0197" class="quote" target="_blank">BA0197</a> (<a href="#17" class="quote">Reply 17</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> Doesn't help our ...

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by bthebest
Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Royal Family Air Transport?
Replies: 26
Views: 11998

RE: Royal Family Air Transport?

My opinion: One of the AirTanker "surge" aircraft should be outfitted in a quick-change VIP configuration. This could operate as a commercial entity - as is planned for the surge fleet anyway - but with priority given to UK government/state transport. This would be a perfect aicraft for trade visits...

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by bthebest
Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA 767s - ERs?
Replies: 8
Views: 2928

BA 767s - ERs?

I happened to be looking in to the history of the <acronym title="British Airways">BA</acronym> 767s (G-BNWB is 25 years old) and have a query about the actual variant of them. Almost all sources report <acronym title="British Airways">BA</acronym> 767s to be -300ERs - which means they should have a...

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by bthebest
Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: El Al To Order A330 Or B787 To Replace 767
Replies: 64
Views: 17738

RE: El Al To Order A330 Or B787 To Replace 767

Is the 787 suitable for the structural modifications El Al would most likely require? The older construction methods of the A330 would be an advantage in this case. Or do they not need those anymore? All the existing range arguments are based on standard model aircraft, not ones with Xt of structura...

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by bthebest
Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA 787 G-ZBJH Positions To CBG
Replies: 11
Views: 12254

RE: BA 787 G-ZBJH Positions To CBG

Work will be carried out by BA engineers from Cardiff, Marshall's are just providing the hangarage.

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by bthebest
Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:15 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Future Replacement For C-17 And C-5
Replies: 21
Views: 18324

RE: Future Replacement For C-17 And C-5

Would it be possible for another manufacturer (Airbus) to enter the market. Limited at the moment to Boeing and Ilyushin, and the market size is not that great.

Can't really see Russia or their "allies" buying strategic western military aircraft.

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by bthebest
Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:12 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: The Netherlands Considers A330 Mrtt Purchase
Replies: 22
Views: 8076

RE: The Netherlands Considers A330 Mrtt Purchase

Perhaps Airbus Military could work with EFW to offer ex-passenger conversions? Could see that being quite popular.

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by bthebest
Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:24 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Future Replacement For C-17 And C-5
Replies: 21
Views: 18324

Future Replacement For C-17 And C-5

Given that by <acronym title="Zambian Airways">Q3</acronym> 2015, both the C-5 and C-17 will be out of production, are there any feasibility studies for a new heavy airlifter? Granted, the C-17 fleet is still quite young and the C-5s are being upgraded to C-5M, but they've got to run out of life at ...

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by bthebest
Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Duke And Duchess (Royal Family) Flight?
Replies: 52
Views: 16577

RE: Duke And Duchess (Royal Family) Flight?

Given it was a 747 they (most likely) travelled on, it would be easy enough to block out the top deck, without having to deprive any other customers of seats. They wouldn't have minded flying business instead of First, and there's still 50 other seats for regular customers - instead of blocking out ...

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by bthebest
Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa, German Government To Build Ebola Jet
Replies: 18
Views: 13369

RE: Lufthansa, German Government To Build Ebola Jet

So I'm guessing this is an A340 that's either retired or due for retirement? Makes sense in that case, and being able to evac medical/emabssy staff and nationals in an emergency is an added bonus. They should have the capacity to avoid refuelling as well, if necessary.

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by bthebest
Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RR Job Cuts. What Is Driving It?
Replies: 9
Views: 4725

RE: RR Job Cuts. What Is Driving It?

It won't be all engineering job losses. They are restructuring the divisions a bit so there will be some some corporate i.e. middle management headcount reduction too. <table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Qu...

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by bthebest
Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COWBOYS/JAGUARS NFL London Charters
Replies: 28
Views: 12814

RE: COWBOYS/JAGUARS NFL London Charters

Seems Cowboys are following everyone else with a Virgin charter: <a href="http://www.thevssource.com/virgin-atlantic-a340-600-g-vyou-positions-for-nfl-charter/" target="_blank">http://www.thevssource.com/virgin-at...-g-vyou-positions-for-nfl-charter/</a> G-VYOU, A340-600 positioning to <acronym titl...

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by bthebest
Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: VS: 7810s To Replace LGW 744s?
Replies: 57
Views: 13232

RE: VS: 7810s To Replace LGW 744s?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/anstar" class="quote" target="_blank">anstar</a> (<a href="#21" class="quote">Reply 21</a>):<br/><i> Quoting bthebest (Reply 13): maybe initiall...

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by bthebest
Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1st Time In History: QR Takes 4 Boeings In 1 Day
Replies: 30
Views: 17930

RE: 1st Time In History: QR Takes 4 Boeings In 1 Day

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/as739x" class="quote" target="_blank">as739x</a> (<a href="#2" class="quote">Reply 2</a>):<br/><i>So the airline CEO lied in a statement to <acr...

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by bthebest
Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: VS: 7810s To Replace LGW 744s?
Replies: 57
Views: 13232

RE: VS: 7810s To Replace LGW 744s?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/KarelXWB" class="quote" target="_blank">KarelXWB</a> (<a href="#14" class="quote">Reply 14</a>):<br/><i>Quoting bthebest (Reply 13):The few extr...

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by bthebest
Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: VS: 7810s To Replace LGW 744s?
Replies: 57
Views: 13232

RE: VS: 7810s To Replace LGW 744s?

I don't think the 78Js alone will cut it for <acronym title="Virgin Atlantic Airways (United Kingdom)">VS</acronym>. If they're hoping to grow, following their current contraction, at some point in the future (every company should have this ambition) they need something that will at least match thei...

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by bthebest
Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Armed Police Called To Delayed BA Flight At LHR.
Replies: 20
Views: 10979

RE: Armed Police Called To Delayed BA Flight At LHR.

Majority of Police officers in the UK are not armed, but each operating area has at least one armed response team. Whilst these teams are priortised for specific incidents, they will also respond to normal calls if required (i.e. lack of other resources or time-critical). In larger cities, it is not...

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by bthebest
Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Free Tank Of Gas With Every Boeing.
Replies: 66
Views: 21269

RE: Free Tank Of Gas With Every Boeing.

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Max+Q" class="quote" target="_blank">Max Q</a> (<a href="#10" class="quote">Reply 10</a>):<br/><i>Quoting mmo (Reply 10):I have taken delivery o...

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by bthebest
Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:35 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: 174 Sheep Die On SQ Cargo Flight
Replies: 48
Views: 13832

RE: 174 Sheep Die On SQ Cargo Flight

Don't be so quick to blame <acronym title="Singapore Airlines">SQ</acronym>. Whilst they are liable, this may have a been an avoidable mechanical failure. No system is perfect and everyone involved in the process accepts a proportion of risk. In the case of a statistically accepted mechanical failur...

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by bthebest
Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:59 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: AF1 At Foreign Airports
Replies: 16
Views: 4918

RE: AF1 At Foreign Airports

When AF1 comes to town, it's almost always on a state supported visit. Therefore, the host state will pull the necesary strings to get the airport & authroities co-operation. In some cases, the Secret Service along with other US agencies will be given pretty much full control of the area. Where ...

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by bthebest
Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ntsb To Investigate TBM 900 Crash
Replies: 4
Views: 2693

Ntsb To Investigate TBM 900 Crash

<a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/ntsb-assigns-investigator-to-lead-tbm-900-crash-probe-403596/" target="_blank">http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...o-lead-tbm-900-crash-probe-403596/</a> NTSB have assigned an investigator, although can't begin until they find the wreckage. Doesn...

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by bthebest
Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA New Procedures Re Passengers Deceased Inflight
Replies: 22
Views: 12674

RE: BA New Procedures Re Passengers Deceased Inflight

At what point do cabin crew stop <acronym title="Casper - Natrona County International (CPR / KCPR), USA - Wyoming">CPR</acronym>? As a First Aider, the only reason I would stop is if someone else could take over (there are plenty of cabin crew) or the casualty regained function. For transpacific fl...

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by bthebest
Tue May 20, 2014 11:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Charles And Camilla To Canada
Replies: 27
Views: 6617

RE: Charles And Camilla To Canada

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/RyanairGuru" class="quote" target="_blank">RyanairGuru</a> (<a href="#22" class="quote">Reply 22</a>):<br/><i>I honestly don't know how the UK d...

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by bthebest
Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:50 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 Engines - GE Or RR Differences
Replies: 23
Views: 39314

RE: 787 Engines - GE Or RR Differences

RR are typically more expensive, but they claim to offset this by lower weight and better reliability and customer support. They're not exactly flagging in the market so there must be some truth to this. I did a bit of research into the A330 fleets recently and was interested to find that operators ...

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by bthebest
Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:11 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: 2x Rafale And C135FR Deploy To Indian Ocean
Replies: 14
Views: 5128

RE: 2x Rafale And C135FR Deploy To Indian Ocean

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Bthebest" class="quote" target="_blank">Bthebest</a> (<a href="#1" class="quote">Reply 1</a>):<br/><i>Wow, that is not a lot of flight autonomy....

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by bthebest
Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:24 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: 2x Rafale And C135FR Deploy To Indian Ocean
Replies: 14
Views: 5128

RE: 2x Rafale And C135FR Deploy To Indian Ocean

Impressive staminar from the Rafale pilots. Whats the advice regarding DVT etc for pilots in this situation?

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by bthebest
Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:22 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Flights Departing At Exactly Midnight
Replies: 14
Views: 11695

RE: Flights Departing At Exactly Midnight

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Carpethead" class="quote" target="_blank">Carpethead</a> (<a href="#0" class="quote">Thread starter</a>):<br/><i>Obviously, this would be seriou...

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by bthebest
Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Royal Travel Question
Replies: 76
Views: 10785

RE: Royal Travel Question

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Bongodog1964" class="quote" target="_blank">Bongodog1964</a> (<a href="#46" class="quote">Reply 46</a>):<br/><i>and the new <acronym title="Trop...

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by bthebest
Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Royal Travel Question
Replies: 76
Views: 10785

RE: Royal Travel Question

In this situation there's probably a good chance they'll charter a jet - at their own expense. As there's a few of them going and there's no direct flight available it would be the simplest and safest option. If they're just going for a few days, they probably won't take George with them - it's more...

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