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by kanban
Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't the B753 sell better?
Replies: 136
Views: 24208

Re: Why didn't the B753 sell better?

I've also heard that Boeing badly wanted to consolidate the B737 assembly at Renton, and in order to do that they needed the B757 program to end. The 737 was already consolidated in Renton and we were running 3 production lines plus preparing for the P-8 line in another building. Boeing was spendin...

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by kanban
Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 787 Trouble in the Future?
Replies: 82
Views: 18582

Re: 787 trouble in the future

What I find funny about the whole thread is you need buyers in order to sell aircraft, and currently the airlines are not buying 'just in case' planes. selling aircraft for millions of dollars is not a sellers market. the industry is cyclic an new model comes out and here is a surge of buying, then ...

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by kanban
Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 318
Views: 70783

Re: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues

While it's a normal human function to try to pin blame on someone, it's a useless argument cycle. nobody wins no matter how they wave their arms about. What I would like to see is some factual information the issue from GE or a reputable trade source... (of course some will believe the only reputabl...

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by kanban
Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unverified: Fiji Airways skips 737 MAX quality inspections.
Replies: 118
Views: 19232

Re: Unverified: Fiji Airways skips 737 MAX quality inspections.

The comments at least put substantial doubt in the threads initial post. Further as I have mentioned in other threads there are numerous processes and procedures as well as established internal lines of communication that ensure the planes are built to the FAA manufacturing license. The op probably ...

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by kanban
Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Expects a $5.6 Billion Hit for 737 Max Disruptions
Replies: 128
Views: 13988

Re: Boeing Expects a $5.6 Billion Hit for 737 Max Disruptions

funny we call a company's strategy "cheap" when things go wrong, but call it "innovative" when they go right. The problem here is neither this fiasco nor the 787 was caused by "cheap", they were caused by human errors. this time an engineering miscue, the other by procu...

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by kanban
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Expects a $5.6 Billion Hit for 737 Max Disruptions
Replies: 128
Views: 13988

Re: Boeing Expects a $5.6 Billion Hit for 737 Max Disruptions

OK they take a hit now to cover costs to suppliers and to keep the program running. then when the issue is resolved and all those planes in storage are delivered, in comes the cash to nearly balance the books. the trouble is sometimes we don't look further out then the current news blip. there are h...

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by kanban
Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Something wrong with Boeing's safety culture?
Replies: 291
Views: 35819

Re: Something wrong with Boeing's safety culture?

All this nonsense about making everything clear and transparent to the average citizen is hog wash... 98% of the citizens don't have either the knowledge or interest to look, they are led by talking heads.. They don't read information that's forced on them by government regs. How many still smoke???...

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by kanban
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Something wrong with Boeing's safety culture?
Replies: 291
Views: 35819

Re: Something wrong with Boeing's safety culture?

OK, I'm a known Boeing retiree.. and yes Boeing screwed up on the MAX and is learning some tough lessons on the Charleston ramp-up. But where is the blame... I see charges pointing at bean counters, but those are just the cost measurement guys.. and really have little say in design, manufacturing or...

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by kanban
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WSJ: Airbus Poised to Overtake Boeing as Biggest Plane Maker
Replies: 22
Views: 6483

Re: WSJ: Airbus Poised to Overtake Boeing as Biggest Plane Maker

Once the OK comes throughout will take about 6 months to deliver those already built while delivering those just coming off the line. It appears that most of the ones sitting not only have been painted but flown the standard B1 (occurred on flying to Seattle for paint an Moses Lake for storage).. so...

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by kanban
Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:20 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Ireland needs airspace defence capability
Replies: 146
Views: 8000

Re: Ireland needs airspace defence capability

What you need is a few P-8s and more search and rescue helo's

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by kanban
Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's going to happen after the 787/a350 orderbooks are completed?
Replies: 35
Views: 5381

Re: What's going to happen after the 787/a350 orderbooks are completed?

what an inane thread supposition.. just one step short of asking what will replace the 797 (or Airbus's next debacle) before it even comes to fruition. Aircraft manufacturing is not a continual growth line on a chart, order books are fluid- that is why production schedules only go so far out. . an O...

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by kanban
Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 34205

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

The irony for this conversation about the A350 is that the 787 has two in two completely different places. The Carolina plant was more political than efficiency. It was a response to the adversarial Union in the Seattle area. Now with some hind sight it is some what a blessing for Boeing as current...

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by kanban
Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 34205

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

A thought just occurred to me.. how much of Airbus's convoluted process flows are a direct or indirect response the the EU VAT tax requirements? Does Airbus foist expensive processes of to countries/areas with lower VAT taxing rates? and perform process that have little value added in high VAT areas?

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by kanban
Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 34205

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

@Kanban. you really have a bad take on how Airbus builds it's planes. You can say that Airbus cut corners and saved a load of investments by reusing surplus A380 facilities (nearly all sub-assembly production sites). And the A330/A350 cabin outfitting facilities at Toulouse and for the A350FAL. The...

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by kanban
Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 34205

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

OK we've had today's diversion.. what about the A350's production and cost issues.. Part of the problem is inherent in Airbus's history.. there was Sud Aviationa and it's dozen or so predecessors, then Aerospatiale all operating pre WWII and early post WWII building purpose built for small post war ...

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by kanban
Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 34205

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

Boeing took the Airbus process and improved upon it. Airbus admits they need to cut costs to compete. Why is there so much denial? Not really though, Boeing took Toyota's manufacturing system instead of Airbus's. Toyota's production system uses the Kaizen philosophy and in Kaizen, transportation is...

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by kanban
Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 34205

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

An economic note: because pension, education and medical costs are high (and maybe housing costs), and a necessary part of being in the middle class, to accurately compare different countries it really is necessary to group these together and add them to wages. I have not seen a comparison for typi...

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by kanban
Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 34205

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

It's such inefficient that Boeing basically copied the process for the 787: subcontract the subassemblies to suppliers all over the world and fly all those to 2 places for final assembly... And why is Boeing implementing a Completion Center in China if it was that crazy? Sometimes, you have to spen...

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by kanban
Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 34205

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

From footage I've seen about the A350 fuselage panel construction, this looks like a really time-consuming labor and machining intensive proces. Thus really expansive. Here is an example: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6_R54EVDdf0 And another one that shows another eliminatable logistics step: Examp...

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by kanban
Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 34205

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

[quote="CFRPwingALbody"]I think that the A350XWB FAL video is a good starting point for this discussion. It shows: - Where sub-assemblies are manufactured. - What route the sub-assemblies travel before entering the FAL. - The FAL assembly steps followed to make an A350 from the sub-assembl...

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by kanban
Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 34205

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

All the talk of different sizes are a red herring, because production costs don't vary much by size within the family. IMO, it’s just too easy to compare the B789 versus the A359 and ignore the differences. Calling it a red herring, state an opinion as a fact and don’t come with the numbers don’t c...

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by kanban
Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Boeing seeking to reduce scope, duration of some physical tests for new aircraft
Replies: 14
Views: 4728

Re: Reuters: Boeing seeking to reduce scope, duration of some physical tests for new aircraft

Frankly I think that the timing of this article is designed for maximum damage to Boeing. Poor timing, or a leak in the FAA, either way, not pretty. Factually there are some errors, and issues, yes, however, I can honestly see that this is the direction the OEM wants to go in. We are, however, just...

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by kanban
Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 34205

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

As I read through the comments, it is obvious that everybody has a different perspective. maybe I'm too literal, however it doesn't matter what the airplane or engine performance is, or the width of the seats, aisles, fuselage, or the company's accounting method... what matters is how much time and ...

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by kanban
Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Boeing seeking to reduce scope, duration of some physical tests for new aircraft
Replies: 14
Views: 4728

Re: Reuters: Boeing seeking to reduce scope, duration of some physical tests for new aircraft

on the opposite side, are some of the tests grandfathered into a test program when in fact they are either no longer relevant or redundant... reminds me of an old procedure that ent "receive data from Engineering and return for completion" when asked what was the criteria for completion, w...

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by kanban
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 757-200 hard landing at EWR
Replies: 166
Views: 40365

Re: United 757-200 hard landing at EWR

simple repair.. support the fuselage, remove the damaged gear, remove all structure from the cargo bay forward bulkhead forward and all below the floor line, straighten the fuselage and floor beams.. bring in a new wheel well structure then start replacing the ribs and stringers, re-skin, re-wire an...

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by kanban
Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:01 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production and Delivery Thread 2019
Replies: 273
Views: 49775

Re: KC-46 Production and Delivery Thread 2019

One of the things that make FOD cleanup hard is the anticorrosion material sprayed in the fuselage.. especially the area below the waterline. anything that falls in it while its fresh is stuck so vacuuming doesn't work. likewise if it falls in a stringer/skin joint while the compound is still pliabl...

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by kanban
Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:23 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: JASDF F-35A fighter jet disappears from radar over Pacific
Replies: 42
Views: 8588

Re: JASDF F-35A fighter jet disappears from radar over Pacific

The press keep referring to this as the second accident in 'two decades' ... since first flight was in 2006 isn't that stretching it a bit ?

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by kanban
Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The folding wings of the B777-9
Replies: 92
Views: 18509

Re: The folding wings of the B777-9

Spetsnaz55 wrote:

And why are they a let down? We always knew what size they would be. They fold and do their job. What did people expect??


I think people want them to flap on take off and rotate as speed brakes on landing.... :duck:

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by kanban
Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA taking planes out of service for bad stow bins
Replies: 15
Views: 3777

AA taking planes out of service for bad stow bins

per https://finance.yahoo.com/m/16057125-7bc1-3619-8bd5-768cd9dfa6de/american-airlines-takes-jets.html , AA bought replacement stow bins for some 737-800 planes and they are deficient. The article doesn't specifically say what is wrong, but alludes to them not staying closed (last sentence in the ar...

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by kanban
Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What soured relations between Boeing and Delta?
Replies: 80
Views: 13922

Re: What soured relations between Boeing and Delta?

:stirthepot: Oh if Boeing had just kept building 757's and MD 80 series Delta wouldn't need any buses.... :duck: :duck:

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by kanban
Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:54 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: USAF Considering New Build F-15X
Replies: 830
Views: 79849

Re: USAF Considering New Build F-15X

If one only has a hammer, all, problems look like nails.. I think the issue here is if we look at the F-35 as the only fighter, then all operations will be tailored to it where it is the most capable in the situation or not. Having some other fighters that have different attributes allows greater mi...

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by kanban
Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When will the Boeing 737NG and A320CEO production cease
Replies: 52
Views: 12527

Re: When will the Boeing 737NG and A320CEO production cease

To make it simple, commercial airline 737NG's will end this year, Military 737 derivitives will continue as long as the Government keeps ordering them.

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by kanban
Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:29 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production and Delivery Thread 2019
Replies: 273
Views: 49775

Re: KC-46 Production and Delivery Thread 2019

I don't know how many times I had to write up a production crew for FOD issues when I was doing process audits... drill shavings are bad enough but tools.....aaaaah!!!!!!!

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by kanban
Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Seattle Times: "Houdini moments" Boeing cash flow
Replies: 32
Views: 5307

Re: The Seattle Times: "Houdini moments" Boeing cash flow

It amazes me at how much the media in Seattle hates Boeing. They never publish anything good about them. I wish they would it all to Charleston where they are appreciated. Good news seldom has legs or endurance... bad news goes everywhere quickly... There are positive Boeing news items more frequen...

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by kanban
Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:26 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production and Delivery Thread 2019
Replies: 273
Views: 49775

Re: KC-46 Production and Delivery Thread 2019

It means they will cancel or RTB before their fueling mission is able to start, leaving the tanker with an excess of fuel to land with. and it can mean running out of fuel and ditching. other than large (C-17 etc) planes being refueled, most are small planes (fighters etc) that have a limited fuel ...

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by kanban
Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:41 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production and Delivery Thread 2019
Replies: 273
Views: 49775

Re: KC-46 Production and Delivery Thread 2019

Still don’t understand what ‘some receivers will falter before their turn’ means ! It means they will cancel or RTB before their fueling mission is able to start, leaving the tanker with an excess of fuel to land with. and it can mean running out of fuel and ditching. other than large (C-17 etc) pl...

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by kanban
Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production and Delivery Thread 2019
Replies: 273
Views: 49775

Re: KC-46 Production and Delivery Thread 2019

RE bigger (KC-10/-11)tankers, we've had the discussion several times over the years that there is a limit to how much fuel can be offloaded to aircraft in the allowable refueling window. Bigger is not better as some receivers will falter before their turn and tankers carrying excess have to haul it ...

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by kanban
Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car
Replies: 35
Views: 4419

Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

thought this was a forum for aviation enthusiasts. seems I am wrong as it appears to be a forum for narrow minded traditionalist trolls.

I am glad to see the prototype and will watch it's progression to the point the program is spun off into an independent company.

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by kanban
Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Passenger suing United for shattered windscreen and fear it caused
Replies: 91
Views: 14698

Re: Passenger suing United for shattered windscreen and fear it caused

attached describes the window composition.. taking a bird strike leaves a window similar to the one pictured.. https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/16073/why-are-aircraft-windshields-not-unbreakable In the early 747 days there was a lot of external surface stress cracking, the flight crew me...

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by kanban
Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Passenger suing United for shattered windscreen and fear it caused
Replies: 91
Views: 14698

Re: Passenger suing United for shattered windscreen and fear it caused

poor little sensitive rich boy .. 1Million miles and never had a flight problem? he should look at it as they landed and all were safe. Ok they were in an airport that didn't have a exec lounge to pamper his ego, but they could have been in upstate NY and kept on an unheated plane for 24 hours.

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by kanban
Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Final Passenger flight for the Boeing 727
Replies: 78
Views: 14934

Re: Final Passenger flight for the Boeing 727

Back in the old days, Boeing allowed groups of employees who were being recognized for something or other to ride on 727 test flights... Off we went (a group of 70 or so) flew around the sound and mountains for about 2 hrs. while the flight crew was doing tests.. then a fuel vent valve stuck open an...

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by kanban
Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines flight diversion leads to 30-hr nightmare for passengers
Replies: 94
Views: 14972

Re: Alaska Airlines flight diversion leads to 30-hr nightmare for passengers

Seems to me that this scenario happens about every 18 months where passengers are stranded at some upstate NY airport and the press goes wonkers. Realistically no airline has service agreements at every airport within 100 miles of their route paths just in case something happens. Coupled with a powe...

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by kanban
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How to make Boeing pay attention to the Philippine market?
Replies: 28
Views: 3218

Re: How to make Boeing pay attention to the Philippine market?

If airlines are not buying there isn't a lot a manufacturer can do but wait... Some A.neters seem to be oblivious to the fact that airlines not the manufacturers determine fleet size, make-up and when they want or can afford to buy.

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by kanban
Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019
Replies: 400
Views: 114395

Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Bullet holes?!!!! What?!! Are you surprised? Anything that is dragged through half of USA and through rural areas has a high risk being used for shooting practice...... Please tell me there's some effort made to hold the idiot hillbilly perpetrators accountable. That's expensive and people that stu...

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by kanban
Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019
Replies: 400
Views: 114395

Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

How frequent is damage to airplanes being built at Boeing? I know of two examples currently, where delivery is delayed as “in production” damage is being fixed. And I don’t mean bulletholes. not frequently. other than bullet holes there are scrapes (trees, other railroad equipment overhangs), somet...

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by kanban
Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:55 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production and Delivery Thread 2019
Replies: 273
Views: 49775

Re: KC-46 Production and Delivery Thread 2019

while I disagree with creating a new thread for 2019, I believe the thought process was that it would begin to see the volume of posts like the commercial airplane model production and delivery threads.. doubt that will happen. so yes please reopen the old thread and delete this one.

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by kanban
Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Major fire at Airbus fuselage component plant
Replies: 25
Views: 5961

Re: Major fire at Airbus fuselage component plant

suggest we meet at Otti's Old B17 Bar across the street from the plant and solve the medias vagueness with a beer or two

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by kanban
Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:21 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery
Replies: 1690
Views: 156382

Re: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery

When I was there, Customer support in general had the time off, AOG support was maintained at a skeletal level including packaging and shipping crews.

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by kanban
Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:50 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Germany considers buying an A330 or A350
Replies: 49
Views: 6425

Re: Germany considers buying an A330 or A350

I would suggest the A350 and get Lufthansa to handle the maintenance and flight preparations. Second Mexico has a Presidential 787 for sale..

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