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by n9801f
Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1598
Views: 272261

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

"No more possibilities to improve" simply doesn't apply in the world of commercial aviation. Demand is always ebbing and flowing, competitive forces are ever-changing, facility constraints come and go, fleets are under near-constant renewal/replacement... need I go on? Many of these chang...

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by n9801f
Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1598
Views: 272261

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

I'm saying that it's silly to claim that ongoing optimization of routes between carriers is proof of a failed JV. Not sure you understand "optimization" very well. It's not a buzzword or a cool PowerPoint word. It's a formal university science. By its very definition, "ongoing optimi...

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by n9801f
Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1598
Views: 272261

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

When something is highly successful, you don’t change it.

So lots of churn is usually a sign that something is floundering and needs to be fixed.

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by n9801f
Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1598
Views: 272261

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

@Lootess Stay on facts. Like it or not, bankruptcy judges can - and sometimes do - overrule management recommendations. Therefore Delta could lose not only its investments, but also its JVs. The judges should be impartial and decide things based on the quantified financial interests of creditors, no...

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by n9801f
Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1598
Views: 272261

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Certainly a lot of hogwash talk about AM wanting to change course, CEO Andrés isn't going anywhere and Delta loaned him Mike as his COO for a time. There is no mumblings in Atlanta that anything is going to change with AM. You missed the point that Andres is not fully in charge anymore. The bankrup...

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by n9801f
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1598
Views: 272261

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

but no one has actually offered a reason why LA or AM or VS, assuming they come out the other end of this would have any reason to walk away from JVs that, by all accounts, work well enough. The reason these carriers are easy to flip is that Delta wasn't a great network fit for them to begin with a...

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by n9801f
Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flying west: female pioneer Captain Emily Howell Warner
Replies: 4
Views: 1995

Re: Flying west: female pioneer Captain Emily Howell Warner

A mention on the passing of Capt. Emily Howell Warner, the first female pilot hired at a US scheduled airline (original Frontier)! Emily was also the first female captain (737) and captain of the first all-female crew at a US scheduled airline, again original Frontier. Her Frontier uniform is on di...

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by n9801f
Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Time For Delta To Consider New Airline Partners?
Replies: 85
Views: 12064

Re: Time For Delta To Consider New Airline Partners?

kavok wrote:
You can basically break the US down in a series of tiers

That's a cool model.

Suggest moving MIA up to Tier 2. While it's not so big overall it has huge importance for Latin/South America.

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by n9801f
Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Time For Delta To Consider New Airline Partners?
Replies: 85
Views: 12064

Re: Time For Delta To Consider New Airline Partners?

Is it time for Delta to look into either leaving SkyTeam, drop and/or add new JV partners and overall new partners? Delta’s current partners of Aeroméxico, Virgin Atlantic, LATAM, and Virgin Australia are not in the best financial situations. And their CEO Ed Bastian has said that SkyTeam has not f...

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by n9801f
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 284
Views: 54311

Re: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy

Boof02671 not 100%.

Typically stockholders are wiped out.

But not in the recent AA bankruptcy.

AA was highly unusual.

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by n9801f
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A350 in El Paso
Replies: 39
Views: 9270

Re: Delta A350 in El Paso

PA12 although ELP does see widebodies today, it’s odd to see a passenger widebody there. Today (especially compared with 70’s/80’s/90’s) there are fewer widebodies in scheduled US domestic service. They’re almost all used on international routes instead. So passenger widebodies rarely go to medium-s...

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by n9801f
Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DC 10 configurations
Replies: 22
Views: 4256

Re: DC 10 configurations

How long ago were those carriers 8x? I've never seen any DC-10 in other than 2x5x2, going back to 1982. In McDD diagrams from the early -70’s I’ve only seen the 2-4-2 config. Not sure when the change to 2-5-2 happened but by the -80’s all I saw was 2-5-2 on DC-10’s in US, with one exception. World ...

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by n9801f
Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA and Reno Air vs. AA and Midway Airlines
Replies: 29
Views: 3633

Re: AA and Reno Air vs. AA and Midway Airlines

Why did AA not buy JI and it did by QQ? This is a great and thought-provoking topic. That was a long time ago, but here's how I remember it. In the case of both SJC and RDU, AA shut down unprofitable hubs, so it's surprising that they'd reacquire either. But SJC changed dramatically. AA shut the SJ...

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by n9801f
Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Could Delta be on the hook with Gol?
Replies: 7
Views: 1876

Re: Could Delta be on the hook with Gol?

Hate to tell you, but AA bonds for 2025 have been trading at a bigger discount (implying a greater likelihood of non-payment) than are Gol's bonds Apples and oranges. There is no record of successful reorganization in Brazil. So this difference probably says that Gol’s risk of liquidation is lower ...

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by n9801f
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Could Delta be on the hook with Gol?
Replies: 7
Views: 1876

Re: Could Delta be on the hook with Gol?

Very interesting. The article says Delta is negotiating repayment delays with creditors. On the one hand, that sounds like it could give Gol more time to repay the loan themselves. On the other, by doing this Delta would appear to acknowledge liability for the loan. Besides Covid, Gol is also affect...

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by n9801f
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1598
Views: 272261

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Maybe so. The LCC’s and ULCC’s do have lower costs so they can restore capacity sooner than the legacies. In 2009 you saw the LCC’s started recovering first.

But right now the most important thing for Delta is just to survive.

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by n9801f
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1598
Views: 272261

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

I doubt many people are avoiding ATL when flying from the northeast to the west. '902 Check the DOT traffic stats. Sounds like you're in for a surprise. This is silly talk at the levels of service and demand that is currently flying. :checkmark: :checkmark: Nobody is pitching to anyone about anythi...

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by n9801f
Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Spotting Baggage Tugs
Replies: 16
Views: 2220

Re: Spotting Baggage Tugs

Speaking of pushback tugs, I only drove a few. But one was the only manual transmission vehicle I ever drove where you operated the clutch with your arm.

Instead of the clutch being a left-foot pedal, it was a lever to the left of the steering wheel.

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by n9801f
Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:53 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Spotting Baggage Tugs
Replies: 16
Views: 2220

Re: Spotting Baggage Tugs

I know of one airline that used many tugs (tractors for baggage carts) that were 30-40 years old. Due to their age, they required occasional maintenance, but not much. Another airline had a special mechanic just for ground equipment who would visit all the stations in a region. These tugs were extre...

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by n9801f
Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:41 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Convair 880 engine inlet intakes?
Replies: 16
Views: 2460

Re: Convair 880 engine inlet intakes?

That's a fun video.

If you're ever in Memphis, you can get right next to a Convair 880 at the Elvis Presley museum.

It was interesting to see that plane in person. It was smaller than I realized.

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by n9801f
Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:28 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: DL Portland Asia hub in the 1980's
Replies: 34
Views: 3247

Re: DL Portland Asia hub in the 1980's

I see, thank you. The L15 mentioned above (shortened fuselage L10) sounds like it might have high seat-mile costs, especially if they used a 3-class configuration. Between the CASM, the small point-to-point market, and post-bubble Japanese economy you can imagine the route struggling for profitabili...

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by n9801f
Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:51 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: DL Portland Asia hub in the 1980's
Replies: 34
Views: 3247

Re: DL Portland Asia hub in the 1980's

LAX772LR wrote:
x1234 wrote:
because their MD-11 couldn't reach ATL-NRT non-stop.

...except that DL flew nonstop ATL-NRT with MD11s for years on end.


Maybe so. But didn’t the MD-11 range increase post-delivery due to McDoDo PIP’s?

Could the pre-PIP MD-11 make ATL-NRT?

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by n9801f
Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1598
Views: 272261

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Those are good points.

But I notice that “equity” (fairness) is missing from the conclusion.

This is a critical point where unions can help.

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by n9801f
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1598
Views: 272261

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

That's probably part of the reason for a 16% cut in pilots even though the demand decline (7,000, if that's the number into 2021) is much steeper. I wouldn't be confident that other crafts, nor admin nor management, will fare so well. The training needs may be very different. I think you're right a...

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by n9801f
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1598
Views: 272261

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

jfklganyc wrote:
16 percent reduction in pilots

Sucks, but that is one of the better scenarios.

I dare say it probably isnt deep enough if current trends hold. More could follow


16% for the pilots sounds a lot better than the planned cuts in nonunion employees.

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by n9801f
Fri May 29, 2020 6:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 284
Views: 54311

Re: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy

Bankruptcy forces hard reckoning and objectivity.

If non-money factors were standing in the way of the most profitable choice, sometimes duress forces a new choice.

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by n9801f
Fri May 29, 2020 2:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 284
Views: 54311

Re: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy

What about Europe? does Latam has lot of traffic? who's winning the most with their demise? LH? IB? AF? AZ? Excuse me, what demise? LATAM's not being liquidated. Now, Sao Paulo GRU is the main hub to Europe for LATAM. LIM & SCL have 1-2 flights/day to MAD (SCL/LIM) and BCN (LIM). LATAM Chile wa...

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by n9801f
Thu May 28, 2020 4:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: DL to acquire 7 A350’s from QR
Replies: 96
Views: 24240

Re: Rumor: DL to acquire 7 A350’s from QR

ILikeTrains wrote:
Delta(UK) would get control of LHR hub.


I think you underestimate BA.

Delta is tough, but I think BA would outmaneuver DL in a QR-BA-DL setup if needed.

If DL overplayed its hand, you might get Colonial BA before you got any Delta UK.

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by n9801f
Wed May 27, 2020 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Pays $62m to Cancel purchase of 4 used A350s from LATAM
Replies: 105
Views: 19653

Re: Delta Pays $62m to Cancel purchase of 4 used A350s from LATAM

Delta stubed their toe in buying these four A350s. Now Delta is trying to heal the owie. The fox outfoxed itself. I wonder if any heads will roll? :old: You could also ask that question about the Delta investment of $2.3B in LATAM. It's a lot of money to lose. And the outcome is not unforeseeable. ...

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by n9801f
Tue May 26, 2020 7:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 284
Views: 54311

Re: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy

With that logic, any major expense any airline undertook in 2019 can be seen as dumb. No. What’s different here is that the asset bought (LATAM shares) likely ceases to exist. Other investments such as airplanes would see a temporary drop in value but would at least still remain possessions of Delt...

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by n9801f
Tue May 26, 2020 5:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 284
Views: 54311

Re: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy

This is sad for the people of LATAM. It's a great airline. I hope their reorganization is successful. In retrospect, this may look like the dumbest $2.25 Billion ($1.9 Billion equity, $350 million in other payments to LATAM) that DL has ever spent. It's hard to see how JV (if approved) profits could...

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by n9801f
Tue May 26, 2020 2:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Pays $62m to Cancel purchase of 4 used A350s from LATAM
Replies: 105
Views: 19653

Re: Delta Pays $62m to Cancel A350 Purchase from LATAM

Interesting argument, Kavok. Although maybe it’s simpler? Here’s my thought: None of the three airlines (Delta, LATAM, Qatar) wants the 4 A350’s right now. QR dumps them back to LA at lease end. DL sheds its obligation to buy them by paying a $62M break fee. Now LA can probably get rid of them in Ch...

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by n9801f
Mon May 25, 2020 8:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1598
Views: 272261

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

In regards to Delta's near future. All the airlines are doing their best to survive. I find it interesting that DAL employees-non pilots are under the impression that they are sitting well and will be just a little smaller. No financial hardship to come, and believe that they will be just fine and ...

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by n9801f
Mon May 25, 2020 2:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 284
Views: 54311

Re: LATAM moving towards bankruptcy

I am surprised that LATAM does not have stronger legs to stand on and surprised that the governments does not seem to be willing to help out. The political situation in many LATAM countries was strained even before Covid, as mentioned upthread. Several LATAM countries had serious civil unrest. When...

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by n9801f
Mon May 25, 2020 4:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 284
Views: 54311

Re: LATAM moving towards bankruptcy

I'd say ALL airlines around the globe are in deep doo doo - the key is if they have enough cash reserve and cut down their cash burn rate to survive until the traffic returns to a point they can start to make a profit again. Let's talk about scenarios pre-COVID. In terms of MIA vs ATL - I agree tha...

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by n9801f
Mon May 25, 2020 12:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 284
Views: 54311

Re: LATAM moving towards bankruptcy

Well...yes...Every single privately owned airline in the whole planet is “towards bankruptcy” in the current scenario. Only the Airlines supported by endless flows of money like Emirates or Etihad can escape to the “towards bankruptcy” qualification. Same for Hotels, Cruise Ships and any leisure an...

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by n9801f
Sun May 24, 2020 11:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 284
Views: 54311

Re: LATAM moving towards bankruptcy

Here at LA, we are very happy to have DL as a partner. The claims that AA brought a lot to us are myths; even when they were our "partner", we could rely on cooperation from Delta in case of IROP or other issues much more than we could count on AA. Everyone seems to overlook the fact that...

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by n9801f
Thu May 21, 2020 4:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago River Flooding Causes Willis Tower (United Airlines HQ) to lose power.
Replies: 45
Views: 7981

Re: Chicago River Flooding Causes Willis Tower (United Airlines HQ) to lose power.

Confuscius wrote:
FlyingElvii wrote:
Twitter showing pics of a completely darkened Sears Tower/Willis Tower against the Chicago skyline.

The building's name is spelled Willis but pronounced as Sears. :scratchchin:

Best quote of the day! Thanks for a great laugh! :lol:

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by n9801f
Sat May 16, 2020 3:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Will Have 7,000 Extra Pilots in Fall
Replies: 176
Views: 23669

Re: DL Will Have 7,000 Extra Pilots in Fall

TSA numbers, and I'll try and figure out a way to post them, have been consistently in the -90% YOY since April over the national system. There is no steady increase WOW. Searching Bing, with "TSA numbers" found this: https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput I added days of th...

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by n9801f
Sat May 16, 2020 1:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 725
Views: 110752

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

These retirements also removed 2 pilot groups which will also save money with training requirements. Except you’ve kicked off a massive airline wide training event in the near term. At DL every displacement triggers around 9 other seat moves, at a cost of around $2500 a day for training. That’s pro...

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by n9801f
Tue May 12, 2020 5:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: A major US airline likely will go out of business this year,
Replies: 308
Views: 41422

Re: Boeing CEO: A major US airline likely will go out of business this year,

Pretty sure that a 2020 airline bankruptcy would be unlike previous cases for two reasons. First, bankruptcy laws were changed around 2005. (Maybe knowledgeable others can comment on this aspect?) Second, DIP (Debtor-in-Possession) financing may be unavailable now. This was the "usual" way...

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by n9801f
Sun May 10, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: United DC-10's
Replies: 110
Views: 14538

Re: United DC-10's

I would be almost certain that the shortest scheduled segment operated by UA's DC-10s during their 30+ years in service was COS-DEN. SFO-OAK is just a wee bit shorter. Although UA flew SFO-OAK, and it is shorter than COS-DEN, I don't recall UA DC-10's ever being scheduled from OAK. I recall SFO-OAK...

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by n9801f
Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ABQ "Losing Altitude"
Replies: 38
Views: 14808

RE: ABQ "Losing Altitude"

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/KELPkid" class="quote" target="_blank">KELPkid</a> (<a href="#8" class="quote">Reply 8</a>):<br/><i>An inflated sense of self worth? Seriously, ...

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by n9801f
Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did The 727 Ever Fly Tatl?
Replies: 47
Views: 15459

RE: Did The 727 Ever Fly Tatl?

During the -70's, TWA flew some 707's trans-Atlantic. These had 3-3 seating in economy. Maybe this is what your mom took?

[Edited 2015-09-14 19:36:12]

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by n9801f
Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 787 ANA Scrapped? Tucson, AZ
Replies: 20
Views: 23814

787 ANA Scrapped? Tucson, AZ

Ditto MODS - please correct spelling of headline: 'c' before 's'. Thank you! <table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/SANFan" class="quote" target="_blank">SANFan</a> (<a href="#10" cla...

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by n9801f
Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ANA Considers Airline Rebrand
Replies: 109
Views: 20181

RE: ANA Considers Airline Rebrand

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/peterinlisbon" class="quote" target="_blank">peterinlisbon</a> (<a href="#13" class="quote">Reply 13</a>):<br/><i>Maybe they could change their ...

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by n9801f
Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Has DL Ever Brought The MD88 To SLC?
Replies: 16
Views: 5283

RE: Has DL Ever Brought The MD88 To SLC?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Viscount724" class="quote" target="_blank">Viscount724</a> (<a href="#11" class="quote">Reply 11</a>):<br/><i>Several Canadian carriers operated...

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by n9801f
Mon May 18, 2015 10:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Eventual A320 Replacement To Be "cigar-shaped"?
Replies: 28
Views: 20621

RE: Eventual A320 Replacement To Be "cigar-shaped"?

It's nice to see some inspired, creative thinking. However leaving floorspace empty has a huge opportunity cost...  <img src="http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/graphics/smilies/checkmark.gif" width="15" height="15" border="0"/>  <table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class...

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by n9801f
Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Frontier Horizon Airlines
Replies: 11
Views: 8538

RE: Frontier Horizon Airlines

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/n7371f" class="quote" target="_blank">n7371f</a> (<a href="#7" class="quote">Reply 7</a>):<br/><i>I believe Frontier Horizon had First Class. Th...

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by n9801f
Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United's First 727
Replies: 24
Views: 7564

RE: United's First 727

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/afcjets" class="quote" target="_blank">afcjets</a> (<a href="#4" class="quote">Reply 4</a>):<br/><i>wouldn't someone else have picked it up back...

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