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by DL_Mech
Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Found some interesting history about Fedex Flight 80 aircraft
Replies: 3
Views: 2309

Re: Found some interesting history about Fedex Flight 80 aircraft

Yes,that DL/FX MD-11 was used for flight test. It was done before delivery to DL. If you look, the plane has PW engines and the window blanks match the original three class (F/J/Y) config of DL.

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by DL_Mech
Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:51 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: TWA Paris to New York by 767-200 in 2001 - when the TWA terminal was a terminal
Replies: 20
Views: 7855

Re: TWA Paris to New York by 767-200 in 2001 - when the TWA terminal was a terminal

Ryanair01 wrote:
This is what Air France were offering on the same route aboard the 747:





European carriers did not change out the 747 overhead bins and sidewalls as much as the US carriers did, but look at that Y class recline!

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by DL_Mech
Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta 737-200 question
Replies: 22
Views: 4952

Re: Delta 737-200 question

blacksoviet wrote:
What did Boeing give them for the DC-9s?



Some DC-9s were sold to Ansett Leasing but most went to McDonnell Douglas. I had heard a figure of $6 Million each on trade for MD-11s. But that was over 25 years ago.

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by DL_Mech
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:14 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: B-36 Question
Replies: 25
Views: 3277

Re: B-36 Question

Last B-36 flight: February 12, 1959

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by DL_Mech
Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:02 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Longest 727 routes by type
Replies: 27
Views: 3437

Re: Longest 727 routes by type

Some 727-200 a/c had aux tanks in the cargo compartments.

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by DL_Mech
Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lockheed pitched five ‘white tail’ L-1011-500s to TWA
Replies: 35
Views: 11201

Re: Lockheed pitched five ‘white tail’ L-1011-500s to TWA

According to another thread on this site, TWA wanted Lockheed to certify the -500 with the RB-211-22B engine. Lockheed said no and the planes went to other operators.

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by DL_Mech
Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FedEx 757’s
Replies: 41
Views: 5700

Re: FedEx 757’s

strfyr51 wrote:
what are you talking about? PWA is fully supporting the PW2040.


The Pratt 757s may outlive the RR birds. Thanks to the C-17.

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by DL_Mech
Wed May 29, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 127
Views: 19483

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

The 767 coach cabin originated in all blue (which was a departure from the blue and beige alternating design in other AA planes at the time). Notice the cloud motifs on the back wall as well. https://i.imgur.com/QL1nHJA.jpg Note that that 767 has the later overhead bin latches. Probably a late 80s ...

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by DL_Mech
Wed May 29, 2019 12:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 127
Views: 19483

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Deliverygra

afcjets wrote:

Btw this is an amazing video with lots of great exterior and cockpit shots of Piedmont 767s and more.


Did PI/US have any ovens in the Y galley?

http://youtu.be/rCndegVzMxU?t=696

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by DL_Mech
Mon May 27, 2019 9:04 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: L1011, DLC and Bank Angle...
Replies: 17
Views: 1662

Re: L1011, DLC and Bank Angle...

in the landing position ever modulated by the PF modulating the speed brake lever manually ? DLC operation was automatic, but I maintained them. I'll let BravoOne answer, since he flew them. On the -500 this would happen as well during cruise for a different reason....again, as I recall? Yes, MDLC....

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by DL_Mech
Sun May 26, 2019 12:17 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: L1011, DLC and Bank Angle...
Replies: 17
Views: 1662

Re: L1011, DLC and Bank Angle...

But the additional information you provided implies it could be modulated with the speed brake handle manually ? Was this procedure often utilized and why or do I misunderstand? I think Steve may be right. The earlier youtube video shows manual speed brakes, but only when flaps are up. Sorry, I don...

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by DL_Mech
Sun May 26, 2019 8:01 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: L1011, DLC and Bank Angle...
Replies: 17
Views: 1662

Re: L1011, DLC and Bank Angle...

A decent picture of the speedbrake handle from this flightsim screenshot:

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by DL_Mech
Sun May 26, 2019 6:54 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: L1011, DLC and Bank Angle...
Replies: 17
Views: 1662

Re: L1011, DLC and Bank Angle...

If I’m understanding this correctly, the spoiler handle raised automatically when DLC was active? Yes, the DLC servo (located in the hydraulic service center, between the main wheel wells) moved the spoiler handle up a few inches during DLC operation. It was labeled on the pedestal as "0°I<-- ...

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by DL_Mech
Sat May 25, 2019 7:30 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: L1011, DLC and Bank Angle...
Replies: 17
Views: 1662

Re: L1011, DLC and Bank Angle...

I had to break out the training manual for this one. It looks like the only time the spoilers get stowed from the DLC null position (7degrees deployed) is if flaps are raised above 30 deg., control column pulled back in pitch or manually deactivated by stowing the spoiler handle. Roll has no input o...

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by DL_Mech
Thu May 23, 2019 1:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What Will Replace DL's 757-351?
Replies: 76
Views: 10531

Re: What Will Replace DL's 757-351?

He’s by far my favorite troll here. Not even on my foe list, I enjoy the comedic value rather than the blatant stupidity some of these people spout on a daily basis. I agree. He can get me to laugh while reading a plane crash thread where everyone has died. Well, they were onboard a pre 1988 aircra...

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by DL_Mech
Tue May 21, 2019 1:13 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why are the APU GEN & APU BLEED usually left on?
Replies: 11
Views: 2313

Re: Why are the APU GEN & APU BLEED usually left on?

Many cockpit switches are left in the "on" position to keep solenoids in the circuit from burning out. For example, engine driven hydraulic pumps are electrically powered in the "off" position. When the switch is selected off, it provides a ground to complete the pump shutoff cir...

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by DL_Mech
Sat May 18, 2019 12:57 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: RIP I. M. Pei 1917-2019
Replies: 16
Views: 2162

Re: RIP I. M. Pei 1917-2019

National Airlines Sundrome
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by DL_Mech
Sun May 12, 2019 3:16 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 747 Classic E-11 Door
Replies: 4
Views: 1844

Re: 747 Classic E-11 Door

ual763 wrote:
I wonder why the release was in the Flight Deck and not the door itself. Seems very strange. But probably wise as some FA would probably try opening it and storing something in there.


Yeah, it is probably wise to not give passengers in the lounge access to black boxes on the airplane.

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by DL_Mech
Sun May 12, 2019 6:34 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 747 Classic E-11 Door
Replies: 4
Views: 1844

Re: 747 Classic E-11 Door

E-11 on the 747 Classic is the Upper Equipment Center-Left. My TWA manual shows the Interphone Accessory Box, SELCAL Decoder, Automatic Announcement Tape Reproducer and Weight and Balance computer all mounted on the E-11 racks. From what I can tell, the door with the Cabin Interphone handset on it i...

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by DL_Mech
Wed May 08, 2019 10:09 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks
Replies: 27
Views: 4551

Re: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks

Here is a good thread explaining blow out panels/doors for those interested (start at post #10):

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=765653

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by DL_Mech
Fri May 03, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)
Replies: 32
Views: 5437

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)

Looks like an AA bulkhead at 7:58 http://youtu.be/7pPfh4HlU5o?t=478 The 747-122 (ex-UA) and 747-123 (ex-AA) were both unique in that they were delivered with below-deck galleys, similar to concepts seen on DC10's and L1011's. The PanAm 747-121's, had the on-deck galleys, in order to maximize cargo s...

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by DL_Mech
Fri May 03, 2019 2:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)
Replies: 32
Views: 5437

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)

I still see Pan Am coach seats in movies and TV to this day. We recently had an engine nose cowl shipped in a wooden box from the desert. What was used for transportation protection inside the box? Pan Am seat cushions.

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by DL_Mech
Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why are UA´s 777-300ER designated as 777-322ERs?
Replies: 71
Views: 12813

Re: Why are UA´s 777-300ER designated as 777-322ERs?

Another thing making customer codes less relevant was if an operator changed configurations the code would stay the same. MH early 744s were CF6-80 powered but at some point changed to PW4056 on later deliveries both aircraft were 747-4H6s but were fundamentally different configurations. NZ is anot...

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by DL_Mech
Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta 763 Retirement
Replies: 14
Views: 3006

Re: Delta 763 Retirement

Only one 767 domestic left in service, N1402A. Currently running SLC-ATL-SLC for the next few days, then charters only until it is due for heavy maintenance.

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by DL_Mech
Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:53 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: 'Lowest mileage' classic airliners?
Replies: 18
Views: 4053

Re: 'Lowest mileage' classic airliners?

I imagine the Google 757 has low miles. It has been a VIP jet for 28+ years.

http://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Boeing/757/N757CJ-Private/6kEnigBw

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by DL_Mech
Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019
Replies: 725
Views: 142055

Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2019

1401 working hard on her last day flying.

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n140ll

Everybody on this site remembers 1401 for her less than perfect Widget livery.

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by DL_Mech
Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 39
Views: 7618

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

DenverTed wrote:
I never knew the SP upper deck was larger.


Later build 747s also had the internally extended upper deck of the -SP. Did any of the used 747s that Pan Am had have the extended upper deck?

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by DL_Mech
Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
Replies: 42
Views: 7101

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

Could the A310-200 delivery interior be left over from VASP or Kuwait Airways? IIRC, all of the -200s were white tails NTU by those two airlines.

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by DL_Mech
Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 6471

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

Did Pan Am have pilot bunks aft of the cockpit? Photos make it look like it does, or is that part of the galley? Was the upper deck dumbwaiter mounted in the floor like UA/AA, or was it in the galley unit?

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by DL_Mech
Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:48 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 767-200 to 767-200ER Conversion
Replies: 25
Views: 4900

Re: 767-200 to 767-200ER Conversion

Pictures of the conversion of a TWA 767-231 to -ER status on pages 4,5 and 6.

http://digital.shsmo.org/digital/collection/twa/id/8234

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by DL_Mech
Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:47 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Delta A350 experience(s)
Replies: 15
Views: 1221

Re: Delta A350 experience(s)

kimimm19 wrote:
In terms of passenger experience, I found the cabin to be quite cramped, especially in the 3-3-3 config in economy.


The seats in economy are 17" wide between the armrests. Most websites say 18", but my tape measure said differently.

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by DL_Mech
Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly
Replies: 96
Views: 17728

Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Somewhere there is an overhead picture of a 737 and 707, I believe military versions. The difference in wings is striking. The 707 wings look like they could be made out of sheets of plywood. Here it is: 2761248 Another good comparison: http://secure.boeingimages.com/archive/BoeingHonors7-SeriesAir...

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by DL_Mech
Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:39 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Delta A321 cockpit missing evacuation panel???
Replies: 8
Views: 1949

Re: Delta A321 cockpit missing evacuation panel???

Just looking quickly through the flight deck photos of Delta's Airbuses (330s and 350s included) it appears they are all missing it. It was probably an old NW thing that it was ordered without the panel and DL kept it out to keep the fleet common. I think it's also a Delta thing. DL removed evac pa...

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by DL_Mech
Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
Replies: 42
Views: 7101

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

Looking forward to your articles. From what I've seen, Pan Am had the most boring 747 cabins of any airline. I hope you prove me wrong.

Are there a few Pan Am cabin pics in the Delta 747 brochure?

http://www.deltamuseum.org/docs/site/aircraft-pages/boeing_747_brochure.pdf?sfvrsn=2

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by DL_Mech
Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: L1011/DC10 general questions
Replies: 20
Views: 4379

Re: L1011/DC10 general questions

The lower galley on the DC-10 and 747 were somewhat similar in that they were a module that was loaded into the cargo compartment. If you search photos of DC-10s being serviced, you can find catering trucks loading meal carts into the forward cargo compartment. Here is a video showing the loading o...

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by DL_Mech
Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A320 series last row- add in a window?
Replies: 22
Views: 3654

Re: A320 series last row- add in a window?

[quote="strfyr51"][/quote]

Did United add the third window aft of the L2 door or was it done by Boeing?

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by DL_Mech
Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:00 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: L1011/DC10 general questions
Replies: 20
Views: 4379

Re: L1011/DC10 general questions

Does anyone have any more detailed real life photos? There are a lot of Lockheed mock-up photos of the lower deck lounges. The real L-1011 lounge photos have "exit" signs in them. Finally, was there anyone else out there that used the lower deck in the L1011 or DC or 747 for passenger sea...

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by DL_Mech
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:08 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: L1011/DC10 general questions
Replies: 20
Views: 4379

Re: L1011/DC10 general questions

1) How long did the lower galley persist for US airlines? I understand a lot of them were converted to cargo over the years and the kitchens moved upstairs. I don't recollect much as my last L1011 flight was 20 years ago but I seem to recall there being no downstairs kitchen on those planes in the ...

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by DL_Mech
Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Surviving L1011 Numbers?
Replies: 74
Views: 9567

Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

What is the difference between the -22 and the -524? The -524 was a newer engine with much more power. Externally, the -22B has a metallic nosecone spinner while the -524 has a composite nosecone with a rubber tip. http://jetpropulsion.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/100_0887.jpg http://www.airtea...

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by DL_Mech
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:28 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Unusual registration or serial placement
Replies: 3
Views: 876

Re: Unusual registration or serial placement

Placing the registrations on the engines of a rear-engine jet seems entirely logical, and I've seen it on biz-jets, but was this ever done with DC-9s or 727s? Allegheny did it on DC-9s, but later put it on the fuselage. http://cdn.aviation-safety.net/photos/aircraft/19690909-1-P-1.jpg Ozark did it ...

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by DL_Mech
Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1727
Views: 385673

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

MR27122 wrote:
The Egypt Air & the Lauda Air 767's came off the line right after one another & were the last 2 767-3's delivered in 1989 by Boeing.


Am I the only one who saw the year 1989 and immediately looked at the author of the post?

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by DL_Mech
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 127
Views: 19483

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

I think the 'refresh' J of 95/96 had the lights. Here is a pic of it: https://i.imgur.com/iZJRXT5.jpg The refresh of 95/96 was when J class went from 40" pitch to 50" pitch. It looks like F was also increased. At DL, we pulled a row out of J class during that time period to be competitive...

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by DL_Mech
Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 127
Views: 19483

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

Notice the the upper deck lounge at 0:35 and the piano bar coach lounge in the rear at 1:13. Plus of course the dining swivel seats in the A-Zone cone at 6:03, and B-Zone at 7:13. And a cool fact was that the AA 747 seats in first and coach both featured inflatable lumbar support! Also note the low...

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by DL_Mech
Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Questions about the final year of Eastern
Replies: 128
Views: 12608

Re: Questions about the final year of Eastern

10 went to Delta if i recall... N302EA (N301EA while in Flight Test) N305EA (Flew in BEA colors for Farnborough '72) N308EA N317EA N331EA N332EA N333EA N334EA (EA 855 Aircraft) N335EA N336EA Delta got 10 L-1011 A/C, spare engines and a simulator from Eastern. About $6 million for each L-1011. http:...

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by DL_Mech
Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 127
Views: 19483

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

4) For fun, here is an ultra rare shot of the AA 747SP upper deck with blue lambswool- looks like the lambswool is spread out more than in the taupe config 747SP Upper Deck: https://imgur.com/a/qS09y95 Cool, never seen a picture of an AA SP cabin. 5) You reference that the lambswool was red as well...

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by DL_Mech
Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 127
Views: 19483

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

Btw this has to be a mock cabin as no AA 767 had a door behind F and is likely a MD11 inside and has wider seats. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HjQK7iUQ3B8 The dead giveaway of something that is filmed on an actual aircraft vs. a movie set is to look for the door stops in the doorway. See here: htt...

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