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by DL_Mech
Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA "Astrocolor" IFE on 707's
Replies: 2
Views: 911

Re: AA "Astrocolor" IFE on 707's

Pan Am had something similar on their 707s. I believe small CRTs mounted on top of the overhead racks. It can be seen in the movie “Bullitt” when they run through the 707.

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by DL_Mech
Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 5450

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

AA also flew DFW-BRU in the early 1990's, which didn't last too long. Sabena came back in the late 1990's to resume the route when there was a codeshare agreement between them, SR, and AA. That was canned after 9/11 and SN's grounding in 2001/2002. Sure? The late 90s had Delta, SR, SN (and, for a w...

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by DL_Mech
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 5450

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

Delta inaugurated TATL service in 1978, with ATL-LGW service using the Lockheed L-1011-500 TriStar: The DL inaugural in 1978 was flown with pair of leased TWA L-1011-100s. http://jonproctor.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/14-N81028-Delta1.jpg From : jonproctor.net http://jonproctor.net/twas-tristars/

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by DL_Mech
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA early 747 question
Replies: 77
Views: 9569

Re: AA early 747 question

Lots of cabin shots in the first part of this video. Everything after 8:02 is a cabin mockup at the training center.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6DBwJRxsSY

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by DL_Mech
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA early 747 question
Replies: 77
Views: 9569

Re: AA early 747 question

DarkSnowyNight wrote:
wernerga3 wrote:

More of the coach lounge. Not sure what that blue thing is


Dog box. There is a rack on each side that slides outward and has several O2 Bottles mounted to it.


Usually mounted in front of a bulkhead and behind the last row of seats. It was probably moved from where the bar/piano was located.

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by DL_Mech
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Question about Pan Am's A310-200s
Replies: 77
Views: 10235

Re: Question about Pan Am's A310-200s

strfyr51 wrote:
DL_Mech wrote:
The -200s had a different aft lav/galley setup than the -300 and the less powerful JT9D-7R4E1 engine.

Less Powerful? As compared to what?


I was comparing them to the PW 4152 on the -300 (52K).

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by DL_Mech
Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:51 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why didn't Delta put N602DL in the Museum?
Replies: 6
Views: 709

Re: Why didn't Delta put N602DL in the Museum?

Realistically, 602 was already in the desert while 608 was across the ramp from the museum. Also, the PTV interior of 608 will be so “retro” in a few years.

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by DL_Mech
Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:41 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: IFE: pre-AVOD/PTV
Replies: 12
Views: 1634

Re: IFE: pre-AVOD/PTV

1970s and 80s video entertainment consisted of film projectors loaded with a cassette of one film. You typically saw a van pull up to the jetway and the guy would deliver the headsets in large mail sacks and swap out the film cassettes for the flight. On TWA, some zones had family-friendly films whi...

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by DL_Mech
Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Question about Pan Am's A310-200s
Replies: 77
Views: 10235

Re: Question about Pan Am's A310-200s

I only know that when they came to DL in 1991, they were all configured the same. The -200s had a different aft lav/galley setup than the -300 and the less powerful JT9D-7R4E1 engine.

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by DL_Mech
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1516
Views: 260904

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Dalmd88 wrote:
Now some will never leave unless it's in a pine box.


That is the truth......

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by DL_Mech
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA early 747 question
Replies: 77
Views: 9569

Re: AA early 747 question

I wonder what the “do not sell” seats on the -121 were all about.

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by DL_Mech
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA early 747 question
Replies: 77
Views: 9569

Re: AA early 747 question

The first seat map that you show appears to be a PA configuration with the extra galleys on the main deck and six lavatories aft. The second seat map has two lavatories next to the stairs+four lavatories aft which match the 1976 map. I wish I could answer your penthouse question. DL had it on the po...

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by DL_Mech
Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:30 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Pan Am themed board game goes on sale today !
Replies: 8
Views: 440

Re: Pan Am themed board game goes on sale today !

casinterest wrote:
Does it come with a Covid-19 time card for ending the game?


Or a Delta Pulls the Plug card?

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by DL_Mech
Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:34 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why did the Delta 727-100 not last long?
Replies: 7
Views: 1282

Re: Why did the Delta 727-100 not last long?

What made the 727-200 Advanced so advanced? Was it capacity increase or thrust? From Wikipedia: 727-200 Advanced The Advanced version of the 727-200 was introduced in 1970.[39] More powerful engines, fuel capacity and MTOW (185,800 to 210,000 lb or 84.4 to 95.3 t) increased the range from 1,930 to ...

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by DL_Mech
Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:28 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why did the Delta 727-100 not last long?
Replies: 7
Views: 1282

Re: Why did the Delta 727-100 not last long?

Pre 1982, DL was not known for keeping jets for a long time. Early L-1011s traded to Boeing and DC-9s to Southern and Ozark are all examples of jets disposed of before the end of their useful lives. Also, DL was known for consistent cockpits at that time. The current hodgepodge of 757 cockpits would...

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by DL_Mech
Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 236
Views: 51345

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Pictures of G-VBIG scrapping in the Daily Mail. Looks like they will be making skin tags for all those Disney World vloggers who want a piece of “Tinker Belle.” http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8320419/Death-747-Iconic-Boeing-jet-dismantled-scrap.html http://blog.virginatlantic.com/tinker-bel...

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by DL_Mech
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 725
Views: 110626

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

LHA320 wrote:
Both 764 fleets are powered by the CF6 and the 764 is only certified on the GE CF6.


Specifically, the B8F version. Another oddball engine.

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by DL_Mech
Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 377 Cabin question
Replies: 48
Views: 8606

Re: Boeing 377 Cabin question

That flight attendant in the picture might still be working at my carrier. I’ll ask around. :rotfl: You win the internet today! He was obviously kidding, but it is possible. If the picture was taken in 1955 and she was 20 years old she would be 85 today. There are a handful of F/As at my airline th...

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by DL_Mech
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:02 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: DL Portland Asia hub in the 1980's
Replies: 34
Views: 3180

Re: DL Portland Asia hub in the 1980's

...except that DL flew nonstop ATL-NRT with MD11s for years on end. Maybe so. But didn’t the MD-11 range increase post-delivery due to McDoDo PIP’s? Could the pre-PIP MD-11 make ATL-NRT? DL received about half of their MD-11 deliveries between 1994-1998. Most of these likely had the PIPs incorporat...

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by DL_Mech
Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 377 Cabin question
Replies: 48
Views: 8606

Re: Boeing 377 Cabin question

CV990A wrote:
wernerga3 wrote:


I love how the ad quotes a surcharge of $125 for the 'suites' at the front of the aircraft. And to think I once got excited when BA offered me an upgrade to Premium Economy for $125! Now, granted inflation, but still!


$125 in 1950 is about $1330 today.

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by DL_Mech
Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:03 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Non photographed airliners?
Replies: 35
Views: 5723

Re: Non photographed airliners?

klm617 wrote:
Braniff Boeing 707-227 N7071


There are photos of N7071 pre-crash since it was Braniff’s first 707.

I have only seen one picture of CV-880 N8804E before the pilot training crash.

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by DL_Mech
Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:11 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Non photographed airliners?
Replies: 35
Views: 5723

Re: Non photographed airliners?

Continental placed an order for several ( five ?) 767-324 aircraft They were built but never delivered to Cal and went to other carriers Are there any pictures of these aircraft in Continental colors ? I have seen a picture of HL7505 on the Everett flightline in full Asiana colors. On the same line...

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by DL_Mech
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:13 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Convair 880 engine inlet intakes?
Replies: 16
Views: 2402

Re: Convair 880 engine inlet intakes?

The 880 entry door is a plug door in that it is larger than the opening in the fuselage. In order to open the door, it must first move upwards to clear the door stops that the door sits against (similar to an Airbus door). Boeing and Douglas doors swing inward first in order to clear the opening. ht...

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by DL_Mech
Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta fleet 1999
Replies: 32
Views: 6053

Re: Delta fleet 1999

The 737-300 was mostly[i] [/i] but not completely based out of SLC. IIRC the 737-300s as a whole came to DL from WA, so that's where most of the aircraft stayed, was based out west. -I flew a 733 ATL-HSV-ATL in 2001. The 733s that stayed out west were the steam gauge cockpit -347s that came from We...

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by DL_Mech
Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am - new/modified livery at the end?
Replies: 20
Views: 5235

Re: Pan Am - new/modified livery at the end?

Both of these late 89/90 deliveries to Pan Am have black N-numbers and gray painted Clipper names. The words Pan and Am are also spaced closer together on this 727.

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by DL_Mech
Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:24 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: L1011, so many versions ?
Replies: 13
Views: 2435

Re: L1011, so many versions ?

IIRC the -50 was a heavier weight landing gear on a late build -1 airplane. The -100 has increased center tank capacity. The -200 is a -100 with -524 engines. The -250 was a Lockheed designed structural mod for late -1 airplanes with Increased tankage over the -100/-200 and -524 engines. The -500 is...

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by DL_Mech
Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am - new/modified livery at the end?
Replies: 20
Views: 5235

Re: Pan Am - new/modified livery at the end?

The N-number is also painted in black instead of blue.

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by DL_Mech
Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1133
Views: 249448

Re: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly

Does anyone know why the seating differed between the M88 and the M90? The M88 had the two seats on the right while the M90 had the two seats on the left (when looking forward). The 3-2 seating allowed for a full width galley in the back. http://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/1/81719_1059704123.jpg While 2...

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by DL_Mech
Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1133
Views: 249448

Re: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly

Look at all that flammable metalized mylar insulation. (Later corrected by an AD)

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by DL_Mech
Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:12 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: MD-11 Lavatory System
Replies: 3
Views: 1538

Re: MD-11 Lavatory System

The L-1011 used a logic control box to flush the forward and aft lavatories. The box contained pump control circuits, fail sensing and timing circuits . This allowed three motors to service five lavatories. In the event of a failure, one pump was sufficient to flush all five lavatories. Normal opera...

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by DL_Mech
Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1133
Views: 249448

Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

https://youtu.be/5TUhVPbxgZU


Looks like someone forgot to close the external power door upon departure.
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Ishrion wrote:
Final MD-88 out of Sarasota this morning, 32 year-old N917DL:

https://youtu.be/5TUhVPbxgZU


Looks like someone forgot to close the external power door upon departure.

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by DL_Mech
Fri May 29, 2020 8:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IMAGES: Pan Am Worldport opened 60 years ago today
Replies: 51
Views: 9251

Re: IMAGES: Pan Am Worldport opened 60 years ago today

That's great! Is it just stored there or actually displayed? Would love to see photos! It is on display. http://afar-production.imgix.net/uploads/images/post_images/images/Yoq93e2X8K/original_918238f1e06878ab3361baf927ae344a.jpg?1440705160?ixlib=rails-0.3.0&auto=format%2Ccompress&crop=entro...

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by DL_Mech
Thu May 28, 2020 11:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IMAGES: Pan Am Worldport opened 60 years ago today
Replies: 51
Views: 9251

Re: IMAGES: Pan Am Worldport opened 60 years ago today

I wonder if DL / Port Authority salvaged anything from the terminal? The "Delta Air Lines" sign that was atop the zodiac "fence" is in the DL Flight Museum in ATL. http://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_fill,w_695,g_auto,q_auto,dpr_1.0,f_auto,h_460/dnlswugr...

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by DL_Mech
Tue May 26, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 747-400 elevator control system
Replies: 14
Views: 2317

Re: 747-400 elevator control system

On the 744 Stab Trim is all electric (no manual stab trim levers in the cockpit). Why did they drop the manual trim levers on the B747-400 but keep/reintroduce them on the newly designed B777 6 years later? The Stab Trim levers in the 777 are for alternate Stab Trim control. There are actual contro...

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by DL_Mech
Mon May 25, 2020 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Will Have 7,000 Extra Pilots in Fall
Replies: 176
Views: 23659

Re: DL Will Have 7,000 Extra Pilots in Fall

catiii wrote:

No offense to Hertz employees, but Hertz was a victim of mismanagement well before the COVID outbreak. They shouldn't get bailed out for bad business decisions.


It is somewhat satisfying to see Carl Icahn take it in the shorts on that one.

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by DL_Mech
Tue May 19, 2020 12:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 777 - 25 years in commercial service
Replies: 147
Views: 14151

Re: 777 - 25 years in commercial service

The 10ab 777's have been here for over a decade already. I'm lucky that my only flight on a 777 (10ab) happened back in 2011 and I've been lucky enough to avoid it since then. Once again Boeing designed the width as such that it enabled airlines to implement these awful seating arrangements. It was...

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by DL_Mech
Sun May 17, 2020 5:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 725
Views: 110626

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

bennett123 wrote:

Are any numbers available for DL?.


From the FAA SDR website:

N860DA: 90562 Hours/ 11296 Cycles (Feb. 2020)

N861DA: 90521 Hours/ 10979 Cycles (Feb. 2020)

N701DN: 60879 Hours/ 5341 Cycles (Apr. 2020)

N702DN: 58781 Hours/ 5087 Cycles (Mar. 2020)

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by DL_Mech
Fri May 15, 2020 4:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virtual tour of UA 727-022
Replies: 73
Views: 8577

Re: Virtual tour of UA 727-022

What a time capsule! I was surprised to see the canisters of RainBoe rain repellant on the aft cockpit wall. They were deactivated some time in the mid -90s due to being a carcinogen. Since this plane was in storage, they were never removed. At one time this plane did have galley ovens. There are si...

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by DL_Mech
Tue May 12, 2020 9:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Planes in boneyards that are never scrapped
Replies: 35
Views: 9751

Re: Planes in boneyards that are never scrapped

Here's a good one most people have forgotten about. At KMGE near Atlanta, there is an ex-Delta L1011 and a gaggle of C-130s that were originally destined for the Iraqi Air Force (IIRC). https://goo.gl/maps/TvJmS6fHtVwYfmsD9 The L-1011 is N781DL which blew the aft P Dome over the Pacific Ocean. http...

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by DL_Mech
Sat May 09, 2020 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fleet/Nose Numbers
Replies: 38
Views: 3439

Re: Fleet/Nose Numbers

I know we've explained upthread how some Fleet/Tail Numbers are created for some US airlines; however, I've worked with plenty of people outside the US who did not understand that the Tail Number could be completely different than the Registration Number. It's not obvious to everybody. Here's a goo...

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by DL_Mech
Fri May 08, 2020 6:31 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 747-400 horizontal stabilizer tank question
Replies: 22
Views: 3183

Re: 747-400 horizontal stabilizer tank question

AFROBINSON808 wrote:
2) On stock 747-400's operating without the stabilizer tank, is the entire tank removed, or just the outboard sections of the tank?


unimproved wrote:
There is no tank, you just make part of the stabilizer leak proof and add plumbing.


:white:

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by DL_Mech
Sat May 02, 2020 8:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1133
Views: 249448

Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Dalmd88 wrote:
NWAESC wrote:
Are the Tech Ops Town Halls on DLNet or SkyHub?

SkyHub under Techops happenings. Thursdays at 11am.


TechOps happenings is a closed group. I assume only TechOps people can view the town halls.

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by DL_Mech
Sat May 02, 2020 4:45 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: First aircraft type with Autobrakes / Autospoilers / Autothrottles?
Replies: 18
Views: 1783

Re: First aircraft type with Autobrakes / Autospoilers / Autothrottles?

Max Q wrote:

Was there another option on the 707 ?


This one almost looks like it came out of the 747.

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by DL_Mech
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:34 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Jon Proctor has "flown west"
Replies: 10
Views: 1772

Re: Jon Proctor has "flown west"

Does anyone know what will happen to his collection of photographs? Could they be archived by a museum?

Jon was a great guy and a wealth of information. He will truly be missed.

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by DL_Mech
Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:47 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: LNAV mode on Sperry 177 autopilot (B737-200)
Replies: 2
Views: 1219

Re: LNAV mode on Sperry 177 autopilot (B737-200)

DL 732s were PDC equipped, but the L Nav switch was placarded “inop.” The 737-300 used a similar mode control panel (SP-177) but was FMS equipped so a V Nav Switch replaced PDC and L Nav was active.

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by DL_Mech
Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:04 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 757-200 range
Replies: 15
Views: 2791

Re: 757-200 range

Who has a tanked 752 other than the USAF? Corporate jet?

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by DL_Mech
Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Narrow Body Thread - 2020
Replies: 110
Views: 19405

Re: Delta Narrow Body Thread - 2020

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
They got the bare minimum in terms of an interior refresh from DL only getting new carpet and seat covers.


Some ships received new 737NG style ceiling panels to cover the holes left by the video monitors. A waste of money if you asked me. The 5500s were not as bad as some made them out to be.

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by DL_Mech
Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JFK Terminal 2 Final Flight
Replies: 26
Views: 6816

Re: JFK Terminal 2 Final Flight

superjeff wrote:
Delta acquired Northeast in 1972. That's when they got into that terminal. They took over Braniff's space as well, as Braniff moved into the old United Terminal.


Photo of DL at JFK prior to NE merger:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kenfielding/6794811181

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