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by DL_Mech
Thu May 26, 2022 8:15 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Greek composer Vangelis dies.
Replies: 9
Views: 996

Re: Greek composer Vangelis dies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKqLAVyRaXw


The whole “Friends of Mr. Cairo” album was pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjyFydbgBG4
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Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
I really like "I'll Find My Way Home" that he wrote and recorded together with Jon Anderson from Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKqLAVyRaXw


The whole “Friends of Mr. Cairo” album was pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjyFydbgBG4

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by DL_Mech
Thu May 26, 2022 5:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Fleet Thread - 2022
Replies: 1063
Views: 219256

Re: Delta Fleet Thread - 2022

Out of curiosity, is there a way to find out what ship number (B767-300ER) was flying on 13th October 1997 from VIE to ATL? It was my 1st TATL flight. Would there be a chance that this particular 767 is still in the DL fleet? IIRC, the routing of that aircraft was ATL-VIE-BUD-VIE-ATL if that helps....

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by DL_Mech
Wed May 25, 2022 10:03 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Names Airlines have given to their business class
Replies: 15
Views: 1361

Re: Names Airlines have given to their business class

TWA: Trans World One, Ambassador Class

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by DL_Mech
Sat May 21, 2022 2:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff International 1982 - 2022
Replies: 91
Views: 9340

Re: Braniff International 1982 - 2022

I’ve always been curious as to why the original 747 “Big Orange” never received the “Ultra” livery. Does anyone have any insight why Big Orange didn’t get it. Big Orange was supposedly one of the highest utilization 747s in the world flying DFW-HNL-DFW. Probably could not afford to take it out of s...

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by DL_Mech
Fri May 13, 2022 1:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta pilots climb in/out of 737 cockpit window
Replies: 35
Views: 8625

Re: Delta pilots climb in/out of 737 cockpit window

He probably got the okay from flight operations to do this.

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by DL_Mech
Fri May 13, 2022 1:17 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Question for Mechanics
Replies: 14
Views: 3628

Re: Question for Mechanics

She could get a job at Pemco in Tampa if she wants to stay local.

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by DL_Mech
Fri May 13, 2022 1:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta pilots climb in/out of 737 cockpit window
Replies: 35
Views: 8625

Re: Delta pilots climb in/out of 737 cockpit window

I would have shut the cabin door and moved the jetway over instead of crawling off a belt loader. But can the Captain's window be opened from outside. Somebody said the First Officer's window could be, no mention of the Captain's window. It cannot. The window release handle is shown in the upper le...

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by DL_Mech
Wed May 11, 2022 7:14 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What is the most collectively hated airliner?
Replies: 37
Views: 3947

Re: What is the most collectively hated airliner?

My wife used to take a commuter flight which was either CRJ200 or SF340. She used to ask me to make sure she was on the CRJ200. It always depends on what the comparison is. The CRJ200 has a real lavatory. The EMB120/SF340 had lavatories, but were tiny and awkward. The low windows on the CRJ200 are ...

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by DL_Mech
Tue May 10, 2022 7:18 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: When were towbar less tugs first introduced?
Replies: 11
Views: 3276

Re: When were towbar less tugs first introduced?

those old school Hough T500s my favorite albeit extinct GSE equipment! The Hough Paymover T500 is a sexy beast. Every early 747 operator had them. After 50 years of service they are not really needed anymore. A few years ago I saw an original Delta T500 sitting in the driveway of a house. That wasn...

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by DL_Mech
Tue May 10, 2022 12:50 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: CFM Engine High Oil Consumption
Replies: 28
Views: 3570

Re: CFM Engine High Oil Consumption

LMP737 wrote:
DL_Mech wrote:

There were remote servicing points inside the tailcone, but these were not used at my airline.


FedEx must have added them to the MD-11 they acquired from Delta.


They were there, just airline policy not to use them (don’t know why).

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by DL_Mech
Mon May 09, 2022 11:13 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: CFM Engine High Oil Consumption
Replies: 28
Views: 3570

Re: CFM Engine High Oil Consumption

AirKevin wrote:
DL_Mech wrote:
If the truck was not available, you could climb inside the tailcone and open up the “patio.”

That looks really falloffable.


It was loads of fun. Slippery Skydrol everywhere, one slip and you fall to your death (at least AA put up one of the safety rails). But the view up there was fantastic.

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by DL_Mech
Mon May 09, 2022 11:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EasyJet to take out seats so it can fly with fewer crew.
Replies: 86
Views: 14066

Re: EasyJet to take out seats so it can fly with fewer crew.

I still don't get it or missed it between the lines, but why weren't they able to hard-block the seats like LH does for almost a decade now in their 321s (which physically have 205 seats, but blocked down to 200) with the table. see here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Lufthansa_Business_Class...

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by DL_Mech
Sun May 08, 2022 11:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EasyJet to take out seats so it can fly with fewer crew.
Replies: 86
Views: 14066

Re: EasyJet to take out seats so it can fly with fewer crew.

phllax wrote:
Delta did this as well on the 800’s a few years ago to get them to 150.


Found a seat guru link:

https://web.archive.org/web/20041204205042/http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Delta_Airlines/Delta_Airlines_Boeing_737-800_A.php

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by DL_Mech
Sun May 08, 2022 10:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EasyJet to take out seats so it can fly with fewer crew.
Replies: 86
Views: 14066

Re: EasyJet to take out seats so it can fly with fewer crew.

Delta did this as well on the 800’s a few years ago to get them to 150. I don't recall that. I'm looking at DL-origin seat maps from 2005 and 2008 that actually had 150 physical seats. It was before 2005. They removed four 3 seat groups from the left aft portion of the Y cabin (12 seats) and added ...

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by DL_Mech
Sun May 08, 2022 10:00 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Double-hinged flap explained or shown??
Replies: 9
Views: 1333

Re: Double-hinged flap explained or shown??

A good picture showing the lower hinge point and the actuators inside the flap fairings.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/caribb/2591747496

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by DL_Mech
Sun May 08, 2022 6:05 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: CFM Engine High Oil Consumption
Replies: 28
Views: 3570

Re: CFM Engine High Oil Consumption

Just a practical question: In the case of tri-jets, in particular the DC-10 and MD-11, the engine nr. 2 is mounted some 10m above ground. How is the oil level control and top-up performed? Logically, a cherry picker or similar device would be required to access the engine. Or is there a possibility...

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by DL_Mech
Sat May 07, 2022 4:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Midwest Express Cookie Recipe
Replies: 7
Views: 1315

Re: Midwest Express Cookie Recipe

N1120A wrote:
I'm pretty sure they used Otis Spunkmeyer cookies


I remember seeing a box of the pre-made cookies with the Midwest name on it. They were essentially just warmed in the oven, just like the cookies that some airlines served in international business class.

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by DL_Mech
Thu May 05, 2022 12:00 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: CFM Engine High Oil Consumption
Replies: 28
Views: 3570

Re: CFM Engine High Oil Consumption

^ Spot On!

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by DL_Mech
Wed May 04, 2022 10:34 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: CFM Engine High Oil Consumption
Replies: 28
Views: 3570

Re: CFM Engine High Oil Consumption

JT8s always did leave a puddle of oil at the bottom of the airstairs on the 727. In my experience, PW4000s use very little oil compared to a GE CF6. We once had a European outstation “service” the oils on a CF6. They wrote 0 pints of oil uplifted in the logbook. It became obvious that they did not s...

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by DL_Mech
Wed May 04, 2022 10:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aircraft stored at Bruntingthorpe scrapped (RAF Tri-Stars, VC-10's, Super Guppy)
Replies: 36
Views: 6360

Re: Aircraft stored at Bruntingthorpe scrapped (RAF Tri-Stars, VC-10's, Super Guppy)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPgVl8DXIAUOFYI?format=jpg&name=large From:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPgVl8DXIAUOFYI?format=jpg&name=large The engines worth saving are mounted on yellow engine stands (next to the right wingtip). The others, sitting on the ground are probably timed out and not...

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by DL_Mech
Wed May 04, 2022 8:46 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why do we "check in?"
Replies: 72
Views: 7601

Re: Why do we "check in?"

On a train, can you oversell seats and take passengers standing up? Obviously, you cannot do this on an airplane.

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by DL_Mech
Wed May 04, 2022 3:32 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What is the most collectively hated airliner?
Replies: 37
Views: 3947

Re: What is the most collectively hated airliner?

People who complain about the CRJ200 seem to forget about the EMB120 that they replaced. I’ll always remember watching the ice build up on the engine air intake and the sound of the ice chunks flying off the props hitting the fuselage.

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by DL_Mech
Sun May 01, 2022 1:16 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why did Lockheed Paint L-1011 Fuselages During Final Assembly?
Replies: 14
Views: 3557

Re: Why did Lockheed Paint L-1011 Fuselages During Final Assembly?

nws2002 wrote:

I think it is Korean Air Lines.


It is. For those interested, start at L/N 128 (the TWA). The Eastern ship next is out of sequence (L/N 130).

https://www.planespotters.net/production-list/McDonnell-Douglas/DC-9?p=3

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by DL_Mech
Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada Orders 2 New 767 Freighters
Replies: 72
Views: 20330

Re: Air Canada Orders 2 New 767s

Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
Quite impressive to see new 767s ordered since Air Canada got their first 767s 40 years ago.


Agreed. An original operator ordering brand new airframes. Not likely to see United or Delta order a new freighter.

Gee-Whiz info: Air Canada was first to order the large forward cargo door.

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by DL_Mech
Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:44 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why did Lockheed Paint L-1011 Fuselages During Final Assembly?
Replies: 14
Views: 3557

Re: Why did Lockheed Paint L-1011 Fuselages During Final Assembly?

http://www.airlineratings.com/wp-content/uploads/uploads/DC-9s-at-peak-production.jpg From: https://www.airlineratings.com/wp-content/uploads/uploads/DC-9s-at-peak-production.jpg What is interesting about the 1967 production line photo above is that it is U-shaped. The TWA is next out the door foll...

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by DL_Mech
Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:46 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why did Lockheed Paint L-1011 Fuselages During Final Assembly?
Replies: 14
Views: 3557

Re: Why did Lockheed Paint L-1011 Fuselages During Final Assembly?

I guess Lockheed built a larger paint hangar at Palmdale, as later deliveries were assembled unpainted. 6309331 Not just the L-1011, If I’m not mistaken DC-8 and DC-9 fuselages were painted before final assembly. http://www.airlineratings.com/wp-content/uploads/uploads/DC-9s-at-peak-production.jpg F...

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by DL_Mech
Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:47 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why did Lockheed Paint L-1011 Fuselages During Final Assembly?
Replies: 14
Views: 3557

Re: Why did Lockheed Paint L-1011 Fuselages During Final Assembly?

This is from a former member of this forum who worked on the production line during its heyday: Lockheed painted the fuselage of the L-1011 prior to wing and aft body mate and final production. They had a special paint hanger that just fit the fuselage, sans wings and vertical stabilizer. The area a...

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by DL_Mech
Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:40 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 with extensive wing paint peel?
Replies: 35
Views: 7630

Re: 787 with extensive wing paint peel?

AirKevin wrote:
I believe the correct term is speed tape.


Available in all shapes and sizes.

http://skygeek.com/shop/?search_query=3M+aluminum+foil+tape

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by DL_Mech
Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:39 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 737 rear galley/toilet configuration
Replies: 5
Views: 1968

Re: 737 rear galley/toilet configuration

CRJ900 wrote:
The galley in the cabin is most likely an underbin auxiliary cart stowage.


Also, the galleys mounted forward of the lavatories could be taking up space where there was not enough room for a row of seats.

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by DL_Mech
Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:46 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 737 rear galley/toilet configuration
Replies: 5
Views: 1968

Re: 737 rear galley/toilet configuration

Wouldnt it make more sense to have the single galley monument immediately next to the main galley space? Or is this the only way to have the FA seat attached to the toilet wall? It is possible to put a double attendant seat on one side and a galley on the other. This is the configuration that Singa...

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by DL_Mech
Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:40 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Location of data plate on Airbus aircraft
Replies: 17
Views: 2547

Re: Location of data plate on Airbus aircraft

[quote="gregorygoodwin”]But why would a commercial airliner have a plate stipulated by an E.A.A. regulation?[/quote] Not an EAA regulation, but it’s in the code of Federal Regulations. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2014-title14-vol1/pdf/CFR-2014-title14-vol1-sec45-11.pdf Paragraph (e)...

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by DL_Mech
Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Trans Air switch to the L1011
Replies: 14
Views: 5492

Re: American Trans Air switch to the L1011

janders wrote:
I had some business dealing with them back in the day and tend to recall it was availability of ex DL L-1011 frames Boeing had for resale.


This. DL traded ships 701-711 as partial payment for 737-232s.

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by DL_Mech
Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:49 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Location of data plate on Airbus aircraft
Replies: 17
Views: 2547

Re: Location of data plate on Airbus aircraft

From the EAA website: We now know that the aircraft must be identified by means of a fireproof plate containing the information specified in 45.13, the pertinent part of which states: 45.13 Identification data. (a) The identification required by § 45.11(a) and (b) shall include the following informa...

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by DL_Mech
Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:11 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Location of data plate on Airbus aircraft
Replies: 17
Views: 2547

Re: Location of data plate on Airbus aircraft

Something of interest along the lines of this topic. When we (FX) began to receive our 757 conversion aircraft, I recall seeing a small data plate on the right side of the fuselage just aft of the pressure bulkhead. This was years ago and it was on maybe two aircraft and I've never seen them since....

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by DL_Mech
Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:43 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Please help identifying this aircraft
Replies: 6
Views: 2333

Re: Please help identifying this aircraft

Is that an American Airlines stripe?

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by DL_Mech
Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF 011 go around - Possible flight control issue
Replies: 106
Views: 32330

Re: AF 011 go around - Possible flight control issue

Would the Gear Override switch have silenced the Master Warning?

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by DL_Mech
Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2022
Replies: 671
Views: 125349

Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2022

Any updates on the AA191 crash site? I was unaware that a tollway was going to be built on the site and google maps shows substantial construction activity. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:A1uPPQWn4CMJ:https://chicago.suntimes.com/metro-state/2019/5/24/18637885/ohare-airport-wes...

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scbriml wrote:
I think there was a thread about this in civ-av a while ago.

Here you go:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454155&p=22512005


Repaired link to make it easier to read.

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454155&p=22512005

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by DL_Mech
Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:51 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Boeing 727-200 C
Replies: 4
Views: 1744

Re: Boeing 727-200 C

20938 / 1105 Last active with First Air as C-GXFA, retired in 2013 Just curious is this an after market conversion because this aircraft was a 727-233 built as an all passenger aircraft for Air Canada. Does not look like a convertible to me. http://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/C-GAAG

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by DL_Mech
Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:43 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Eastern Airlines 727-200 configuration in the 1980ies
Replies: 13
Views: 2201

Re: Eastern Airlines

Here are FIVE different configurations all from 1989: http://departedflights.com/EA72S0889.html Now that's kick-ass! There's only one configuration with first class... was there really that little demand for that class at the time? Note three of the five configurations are for the BOS-LGA-DCA shutt...

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by DL_Mech
Sat Apr 02, 2022 7:22 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Seat Guru Not Accurate Anymore?
Replies: 11
Views: 1805

Re: Seat Guru Not Accurate Anymore?

SeatGuru also assumes that every seat in front of a bulkhead has limited recline. This is not always true. Seat pitch and recline data is always called out for on the Layout of Passenger Accommodations (LOPA) when the interior is installed.

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by DL_Mech
Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Fleet Thread - 2022
Replies: 1063
Views: 219256

Re: Delta welcomes its 1st Airbus A321neo

Is this the first time that the registered trademark symbol has been painted on a Delta aircraft? http://news.delta.com/sites/default/files/2022-03/20220302-p4108-msn10437-delta-a321neo-stills-taxi-f1-hr-008.jpg From: https://news.delta.com/sites/default/files/2022-03/20220302-p4108-msn10437-delta-a...

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by DL_Mech
Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:41 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Most Iconic Airport Buildings in the US
Replies: 18
Views: 1964

Re: Most Iconic Airport Buildings in the US

I would say that the most iconic building at ATL is only famous for its neon sign. http://prometheus.med.utah.edu/~bwjones/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Fly-Delta-Jet.jpg From: https://prometheus.med.utah.edu/~bwjones/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Fly-Delta-Jet.jpg 1973 Commercial: http://youtu.be/8ZQoTjU...

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by DL_Mech
Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Eastern 737-800 crashes in Guangxi, southern China
Replies: 1166
Views: 440920

Re: China Eastern 737 "Missing Contact"

Spetsnaz55 wrote:

Looks like a piece of lower wing panel to me


I agree. The oval openings are where the tank access plates are located.

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by DL_Mech
Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta in talks to purchase 100 737MAX-10's
Replies: 343
Views: 87968

Re: Delta in talks to purchase 100 737MAX-10's

The standard used to be the measurement between the armrests would give you seat width. That seems to have gone away with the MAX (using cushion width instead?). Classic/NG Page 54/58: http://www.boeing.com/resources/boeingdotcom/commercial/airports/acaps/737NG_REV%20C.pdf MAX Page 26: http://www.b...

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by DL_Mech
Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Fleet Thread - 2022
Replies: 1063
Views: 219256

Re: Delta Fleet Thread - 2022

I was on N702TW today and it still had the sidewalls and overhead bins as originally delivered to TWA. Didn't DL re-do all of the 757 interiors, or just their original ones? N702TW was delivered in 1996. This is an original DL 757 pictured in 1999 (ship 678 delivered in 1992) with these bins so ass...

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by DL_Mech
Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:50 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: How many airlines' 777s still have 9AB economy seating?
Replies: 19
Views: 3451

Re: How many airlines' 777s still have 9AB economy seating?

When I flew DL JNB-ATL a couple of years ago it was 9 abreast and just that one seat missing compared to the EK 3-4-3 layout made all the difference on that long flight. Off topic slightly but my first 777 flight was BA LHR-LAX way back when and the centre block was 5 seats. That must have been awf...

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