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by Trident
Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cypriot Plane Crash
Replies: 218
Views: 50465

Cypriot Plane Crash

Sounds very similar to Payne Stewrat's Learjet crash a few years ago. Very similar circumstances

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by Trident
Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DC-10 Grounding 1979
Replies: 30
Views: 11663

RE: DC-10 Grounding 1979

"Slight incident"? It was the worst avation disaster in the world at the time!

The 30th Anniversary is next week, I think.

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by Trident
Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rebrandings That Went Wrong
Replies: 31
Views: 5272

RE: Rebrandings That Went Wrong

"Failed Rebranding" does not just mean "A colour scheme I don't happen to like". That's a personal view. My understanding of the original post is that it relates to rebrandings which had a detrimental effect on the airline's image and it's commercial operations. I wouldn't think Aer Lingus' "new" co...

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by Trident
Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:44 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Position Of Engines
Replies: 13
Views: 6212

RE: Position Of Engines

Rear engines have some advantages but not that many. Advantages - Quieter cabin for passengers. A clean and, theoretically, a more aerodynamic and efficient wing. Disadvantages - Access is more difficult for maintenance. A fin mounted T-Tail arrangement is usually required which which needs a strong...

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by Trident
Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?
Replies: 28
Views: 7781

RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Aer Lingus have operated aircraft in all sorts of hybrid schemes. In the 70s I well remember 737-248s <acronym title="Aer Lingus (Ireland)">EI</acronym>-ASA in basic Cameroun livery and <acronym title="Aer Lingus (Ireland)">EI</acronym>-ASB in VASP, <acronym title="Aer Lingus (Ireland)">EI</acronym>...

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by Trident
Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Quietest Airliner In The World?
Replies: 64
Views: 15970

RE: Quietest Airliner In The World?

The Bristol Britannia was known as "The Whispering Giant".

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by Trident
Thu Jan 01, 2004 6:49 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Politics & Aviation
Replies: 3
Views: 558

Politics & Aviation

"Getting along" is boring. People post on this forum to state their opinions and ask for other people's opinions. When opinions differ, arguments simetimes arise - that's life. As long as people behave themselves, act politely and don't allow the debate to descend into a general slanging match, then...

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by Trident
Wed Dec 31, 2003 6:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Old Design?
Replies: 3
Views: 1744

RE: Old Design?

The main advances on airliner design since the 1960s has been in wings. Although Airbus boast about the wonders of digital Fly By Wire, the real secret of Airbus performance is their advanced wing designs. Both the Boeing 737 and 747 are saddled with wings that were drawn up (literally) in the early...

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by Trident
Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Little Airbus Planes In USA, How?
Replies: 20
Views: 6003

RE: Little Airbus Planes In USA, How?

Flying "short range" airliners across the North and South Atlantic has been going on for decades. As someone has already mentioned, even small twins and single engined light aircraft can fly the Atlantic on deliveries. In my plane spotting days back in the 70s we used to make special trips to Shanno...

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by Trident
Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Plane Crashes In Benin, Killing At Least 82
Replies: 1
Views: 4651

RE: Plane Crashes In Benin, Killing At Least 82

253 on a 727? No wonder it never took off.

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by Trident
Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Classic Airline Slogans
Replies: 73
Views: 7486

RE: Classic Airline Slogans

The "I'm (Tammy, Debbie etc), Fly Me" ads were from National. The slogans we're brilliantly parodied in the 1975 10cc song "I'm Mandy, Fly Me".

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by Trident
Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oldest Commercial A/C Still In Service?
Replies: 16
Views: 7691

RE: Oldest Commercial A/C Still In Service?

Has to be something like a DC-3 or maybe even a De Havilland Dragon Rapide.
Is there not a Ford Trimotor still earning its keep somewhere in the US?

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by Trident
Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Question On Foreign Regs?
Replies: 10
Views: 2576

RE: Question On Foreign Regs?

A civil aircraft must have a Certificate of Airworthiness to enable it to fly. Foreign aircraft can fly in another country's airspace only if they have a valid Certificate. Leased aircraft often retain the registration of their original owner, whether it be a leasing company or an overseas airline. ...

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by Trident
Wed Dec 24, 2003 3:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Classic Airline Slogans
Replies: 73
Views: 7486

RE: Classic Airline Slogans

Aer Lingus - "Look up, it's Aer Lingus" British European Airways - "BEA, No. 1 In Europe" British European Airways - "BEA, the Key to Europe" Jugoslav Air Transport - "Things are JATting Better" BOAC - (regarding the expected introduction of Concorde into BOAC service) "Soon there will be two types ...

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by Trident
Sun Dec 21, 2003 7:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Does An Airplane Cross The Ocean?
Replies: 21
Views: 8107

RE: How Does An Airplane Cross The Ocean?

No big deal really. When I was an avid spotter in the 70s, I used to regularly log deliveries of small single engined aircraft and light twins such as Cessna 172s, Beech Bonanzas, Cessna 421s etc as they staged through Shannon on their way from the US to Europe. On one occasion I remember logging tw...

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by Trident
Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 10 Aircraft That Changed Aviation
Replies: 73
Views: 10557

RE: 10 Aircraft That Changed Aviation

There are certain aircraft that contributed greatly to the development of aviation, both civil and miltary. There is also a lot of crossover between these two divisions of aviation. A military development will often have major implications on civil aircraft. For example, the Boeing 247 has already b...

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by Trident
Tue Dec 02, 2003 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 10 Aircraft That Changed Aviation
Replies: 73
Views: 10557

RE: 10 Aircraft That Changed Aviation

The Gloster Meteor WAS NOT the first "truly jet powered" aircraft. It was predated by the Heinkel He178, the Gloster Whittle E28/39, the Heinkel He280 and (perhaps) the Messerschmitt Me262. The Trident had nothing to do with BAC, it was originally built be De Havilland whoich became part of the Hawk...

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by Trident
Tue Dec 02, 2003 7:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 10 Aircraft That Changed Aviation
Replies: 73
Views: 10557

RE: 10 Aircraft That Changed Aviation

A very "America" centered survey to say the least.

Military aircraft are important and have changed the world. In aviation terms they have usually been the first to introduce new technologies and in the wider scheme of things, have sometimes changed history - eg. the Boeing B-29.

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by Trident
Sun Nov 30, 2003 2:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Whats The Loudest Aircraft In The World?
Replies: 144
Views: 58386

RE: Whats The Loudest Aircraft In The World?

These old Russian aircraft are only loud in camparison to more modern types. In their heyday they would not have been considered an awful lot different to their western counterparts.

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by Trident
Sun Nov 30, 2003 2:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airplanes Designed For A Specific Airline
Replies: 31
Views: 4132

RE: Airplanes Designed For A Specific Airline

Up to the 1970s, most British airliners were designed with one of the national airlines in mind - Armstrong Whitworth Argosy, De Havilland DH66 Hercules, Handley Page HP42 Heracles, Armstrong Whitworth Ensign, Short C Class Flying Boat - All designed for Imperial Airways. Vickers <acronym title="Ser...

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by Trident
Sat Nov 29, 2003 10:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A Successful Emergency Landing On Water?
Replies: 16
Views: 11221

RE: A Successful Emergency Landing On Water?

A SATA Caravelle ditched near the Azores around 1977/78 I seem to remember.

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by Trident
Sat Nov 29, 2003 7:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Whats The Loudest Aircraft In The World?
Replies: 144
Views: 58386

RE: Whats The Loudest Aircraft In The World?

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Hawker Siddeley Trident, especially rhe 3B variant. It was significantly louder than the BAC 1-11, being powered by three (rather than two Speys) plus the RB162 booster jet. Military wise, the loudest I've heard are the <acronym title="Swissair">SR</acronym>-71...

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by Trident
Thu Nov 27, 2003 3:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Are There Any Preserved Space Shuttle Carriers?
Replies: 15
Views: 4014

RE: Are There Any Preserved Space Shuttle Carriers?

NASA took the 747/Shuttle combination to the Paris Air Show in 1983 and stopped off on the way back at Stansted. The Shuttle on board was the non-space worthy "Enterprise".

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by Trident
Thu Nov 20, 2003 4:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NWA's Avros
Replies: 8
Views: 1964

RE: NWA's Avros

I hate the fact that they are called "Avros". To me they are BAe 146s. The design had no connection with Avro being a former Hawker Siddeley based project and being given a number from the old De Havilland block of designations. (<acronym title="Atlantic Coast Airlines (USA)">DH</acronym>/HS 121 Tri...

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by Trident
Thu Nov 20, 2003 4:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: No Desire For Tail Mounted Engines?
Replies: 16
Views: 5370

RE: No Desire For Tail Mounted Engines?

The idea of placing the engines under the wings (as pioneered on the Boeing B-47 Stratojet) was to reduce the bending moment of the wings. If the engines had been placed anywhere else the wings would have to be made stronger to counteract this bending, thereby making the aircraft heavier. The popula...

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by Trident
Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Was The BAC 1-11 A Success Or Failure?
Replies: 43
Views: 8505

RE: Was The BAC 1-11 A Success Or Failure?

I don't think that the BAC 1-11 ever made much in the way of profits for BAC or British Aerospace. However, it was a well built and reliable machine. I well remember my uncle, who was a technical instructor with Aer Lingus, telling me in 1975 that the 1-11 208s in the fleet were in much better shape...

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by Trident
Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Same Plane As Jet And Turboprop
Replies: 43
Views: 5929

RE: Same Plane As Jet And Turboprop

Vickers did convert one of the Viscount prototypes to fly with two Rolls Royce Tay turbojets. It was purely a test bed aircraft and there was never any intention to put it into production. Even earlier, Vickers had converted a piston engined Viking to run on two Rolls Royce Nenes.

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by Trident
Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:14 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why Black Box?
Replies: 12
Views: 7019

RE: Why Black Box?

The term "Black Box" used to refer to almost any electrical apparatus installed in an aircraft. It probably arose in the years just before World War 2 when new fangled radio and navigational equipment began to be installed in aeroplanes for the first time. For a generation of pilots brought up on ai...

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by Trident
Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: About Pan Am
Replies: 7
Views: 3202

RE: About Pan Am

Pan Am had been sick for decades. I well remember a headline in "Time" magazine from 1970 stating "Pan Am in a Tailspin". It was only a matter of when, not if, they would eventually go under. Locekrbie was a major blow but they still survived for another three years before the final collapse.

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by Trident
Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oldest Aircraft In Service?
Replies: 13
Views: 5623

RE: Oldest Aircraft In Service?

It depends on what you mean by "in service". A number of airlines keep historic aircraft for publicity purposes and occasionally fly passengers in them. Other airlines use older aircraft for sightseeing flights (eg. Ford Trimotors etc). As far as honest to goodness, daily scheduled services the answ...

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by Trident
Sat Nov 01, 2003 5:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Much Variation Among Concordes?
Replies: 4
Views: 2209

RE: How Much Variation Among Concordes?

Very informative stuff - thank you.

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by Trident
Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Do You Write Registration Number Down?
Replies: 41
Views: 5689

RE: Why Do You Write Registration Number Down?

I am a "semi-retired spotter". I used to log registrations at my home airport (Dublin) from about 1973 but since I "grew up" have not indulged in the hobby too frequently (lack of time, other interests, work etc). However, I have been known to make the odd note when travelling from or to an airport ...

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by Trident
Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA Fleet/Livery News!
Replies: 28
Views: 10419

RE: BA Fleet/Livery News!

BA's first scheme lasted from 1974 to 1984/85. The reason why it was changed after only ten years was because of the upcoming privatisation of the airline. It was felt that the old scheme needed to be got rid of so that the newly privatised airline could move forward with a fresh image. In the event...

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by Trident
Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA Fleet/Livery News!
Replies: 28
Views: 10419

RE: BA Fleet/Livery News!

Good riddance. A disastrous marketing decison not to mention a hideously expensive burden on maintenance costs. It was instrumental in costing Rob Ayling and his board their jobs. At the time they were introduced I did not hear one employee at <acronym title="British Airways">BA</acronym> say that t...

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by Trident
Mon Oct 06, 2003 4:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Best A/c Start Up Noise!
Replies: 44
Views: 3689

RE: Best A/c Start Up Noise!

Any big recioprocating piston engine. Lots of smoking, popping and banging, flames from the exhaust stacks etc.

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by Trident
Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Caravelles---details of who ordered what.
Replies: 21
Views: 3861

RE: United Caravelles

United acquired Capital's fleet of Viscounts folllowing the merger. Maybe that's what you are thinking of. Initially, Sud Aviation had a marketing deal with Douglas to promote the Caravelle in North America. The deal ended after a very short while. Oddly enough, Douglas' first short haul jet, the DC...

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by Trident
Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737 Classic V DC-9
Replies: 13
Views: 3726

RE: 737 Classic V DC-9

Boeing were slightly late out of the gate with their short haul jet. The project got the go ahead in 1965, the same year the DC-9 first flew. Deliveries began in 1968, two year after the DC-9 had entered service. However, by the mid 70s the 737 was drawing level with the DC-9 and, by the end of the ...

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by Trident
Thu Sep 04, 2003 7:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why No Skylights In Airplanes?
Replies: 29
Views: 7781

RE: Why No Skylights In Airplanes?

Am I right in saying Arthur Hagg designed both the De Havilland Albatross airliner and the Airspeed Ambassador?

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by Trident
Wed Sep 03, 2003 3:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why No Skylights In Airplanes?
Replies: 29
Views: 7781

RE: Why No Skylights In Airplanes?

Pne of the test Concordes was fitted with skylights in 1973 so telescopes could be mounted in the fuselage. The aircraft then chased the moon's shadow across the Atlantic during a total solar eclipse. The NASA Lockheed C-141 flying laboratory also had skylights in the roof for telescopes and other t...

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by Trident
Wed Sep 03, 2003 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Anyone Following QinetiQ 1?
Replies: 8
Views: 2400

RE: Anyone Following QinetiQ 1?

To answer my own question - yes. Attempt has been abandoned for the year.

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by Trident
Wed Sep 03, 2003 3:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Anyone Following QinetiQ 1?
Replies: 8
Views: 2400

RE: Anyone Following QinetiQ 1?

Just to let you know, the inflation process has been halted because a serious tear has developed in the envelope.

Is the effort doomed?

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by Trident
Wed Sep 03, 2003 2:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1-11's - What Did You Think Of Them?
Replies: 23
Views: 4719

RE: 1-11's - What Did You Think Of Them?

I'd say noiser - it's partly the supersonic crackles you can hear in the exhaust note. Similar to what you hear on the Space Shuttle (but not THAT loud).

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by Trident
Wed Sep 03, 2003 1:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Anyone Following QinetiQ 1?
Replies: 8
Views: 2400

RE: Anyone Following QinetiQ 1?

Getting good coverage here (Farnborough Hants) as Farnborough is the home of QintetiQ (what a stupid name). I have my reservations about this project as it is essentially a publicity stunt to try and get the QinetiQ brand some worldwide attention. From what I can gather there is going to be very lim...

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by Trident
Mon Sep 01, 2003 2:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1-11's - What Did You Think Of Them?
Replies: 23
Views: 4719

RE: 1-11's - What Did You Think Of Them?

They were VERY loud - although not as loud as the Trident since the Trident has THREE Speys compared to the 1-11's two. I flew in Aer Lingus, Dan Air and <acronym title="British Airways">BA</acronym> I-11s at various times. My uncle was a technical instructor ar Aer Lingus and I remember him telling...

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by Trident
Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Your DC-10 Memories
Replies: 60
Views: 5678

RE: Your DC-10 Memories

Trans International DC-10s arriving at Dublin, ferrying Irish troops to the Lebanon for UN peace keeping duties in 1978.

My first flight to the USA - British Caledonian DC-10 - Gatwick - Houston in 1981.

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by Trident
Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA Still Called Speedbird?
Replies: 18
Views: 3278

RE: BA Still Called Speedbird?

Speedbird dates back to the days of Imperial Airways, so its even older than BOAC.

One of my favourte BOAC ad slogans from 1973 -

"Soon there will be two types of airlines, those that fly Concorde and those that take twice as long".

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by Trident
Mon Aug 25, 2003 6:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Favorite Airplane Sounds
Replies: 73
Views: 4093

RE: Favorite Airplane Sounds

How about a Griffon powered Spitfire - even better than the Merlin versions in my opinion. In fact, even better than a Griffon Spitfire is an Avro Shackleton - four Griffons.

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by Trident
Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Favorite Airplane Sounds
Replies: 73
Views: 4093

RE: Favorite Airplane Sounds

The four Rolls Royce Dart turboprops on a Vickers Viscount being wound up to full throttle on the ramp.

A Trident at full throttle on the brakes at the runway threshold just before commencing its take off run (makes a JT8D seem quiet).

Alas, these sounds are no more.

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by Trident
Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: National Air & Space Museum (Washington D.C.)
Replies: 20
Views: 4271

RE: National Air & Space Museum (Washington D.C.)

I certainly wouldn't place the London Science Museaum ahead of the NASM. They are both great. The Science Museum's Airliner Collection is at Wroughton in Wiltshire and is very good.

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by Trident
Sun Aug 24, 2003 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B-17 "Memphis Belle" At MKE
Replies: 17
Views: 3184

RE: B-17 "Memphis Belle" At MKE

Since the making of the feature film in 1989, a few of the B-17s used in the film have been repainted in "Memphis Belle" colours. Over here in the UK, the famous B-17 "Sally B" , which also was used in the movie, now sports the full "Memphis Belle" scheme - although she still performs as "Sally B"..

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