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by panova98
Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 131695

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

*UA3411, Republic Airlines, DBA United Express. Now let's see, which contract of carriage do I use? Is it Republic's, United Express', United's?" Probably as they say when you check the rules on your fare, something like "the more/most restrictive rule applies!" "Sorry, sir, you ...

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by panova98
Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Proposed Essential Air Service elimination
Replies: 170
Views: 14826

Re: Proposed Essential Air Service elimination

This EAS program has been repealed more often than the House has repealed Obamacare, and they're both still here and I'll bet you they'll be here for a long time.. Sure, the EAS is crazy, like funding for most everything for transportation in our country is. And, like cars and driving will take care...

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by panova98
Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA2254 744 Dulles to Harrisburg
Replies: 5
Views: 2911

Re: UA2254 744 Dulles to Harrisburg

COSPN wrote:
Penn state bowl game


Ask and ye shall receive! Thanks!

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by panova98
Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA2254 744 Dulles to Harrisburg
Replies: 5
Views: 2911

UA2254 744 Dulles to Harrisburg

Interesting Monday noon flight today. Why?

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by panova98
Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC 088 (PVG-YYZ) Diverted YYC; Heavy Turbulence
Replies: 23
Views: 9794

RE: AC 088 (PVG-YYZ) Diverted YYC; Heavy Turbulence

I'll bet there are more than just a few flight crew folks on here who could just scream about the seat belt issue like this and others. Me, not now or ever a flight crew person, but if you"ve flown even a couple of times, you know, like, where are people's minds, or maybe we should all take a scienc...

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by panova98
Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA To Leave DXB
Replies: 166
Views: 24542

RE: UA To Leave DXB

There are 2 sides to every story, and in this matter, I would submit there are probably a hundred. First, the Fly America Act. It was part of law (Public Law 93-624), effective Jan. 3, 1975). It was often referred to as the "Save PanAm" law, but of course it failed to do that. Before the Act, there ...

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by panova98
Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DOJ: Is Atpco Effectively Fare Communication?
Replies: 44
Views: 5530

RE: DOJ: Is Atpco Effectively Fare Communication?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/enilria" class="quote" target="_blank">enilria</a> (<a href="#27" class="quote">Reply 27</a>):<br/><i>That's a guess. The DOJ has a pretty lame ...

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by panova98
Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DOJ: Is Atpco Effectively Fare Communication?
Replies: 44
Views: 5530

RE: DOJ: Is Atpco Effectively Fare Communication?

Posts about ATPCO generally are not best sellers. But, in any event, if you're reading this thread, you're probably pretty passionate about this stuff. In my early years, I used to subscribe to ATPCO's domestic tariffs, back when there stilll was a CAB. UPS must have made a fortune with its daily de...

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by panova98
Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 787-8 To ANC
Replies: 31
Views: 11643

RE: United 787-8 To ANC

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/jOHNcLIPPER" class="quote" target="_blank">jOHNcLIPPER</a> (<a href="#25" class="quote">Reply 25</a>):<br/><i>All airlines do this...</i></font>...

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by panova98
Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 787-8 To ANC
Replies: 31
Views: 11643

RE: United 787-8 To ANC

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/rdh3e" class="quote" target="_blank">rdh3e</a> (<a href="#22" class="quote">Reply 22</a>):<br/><i>I'll bite, what's a 4-position flight number?<...

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by panova98
Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 787-8 To ANC
Replies: 31
Views: 11643

RE: United 787-8 To ANC

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/adamblang" class="quote" target="_blank">adamblang</a> (<a href="#11" class="quote">Reply 11</a>):<br/><i>Does <acronym title="United Airlines (...

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by panova98
Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 787-8 To ANC
Replies: 31
Views: 11643

RE: United 787-8 To ANC

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/EA+CO+AS" class="quote" target="_blank">EA CO AS</a> (<a href="#13" class="quote">Reply 13</a>):<br/><i>Ah, so you're THAT guy... </i></font></t...

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by panova98
Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 787-8 To ANC
Replies: 31
Views: 11643

RE: United 787-8 To ANC

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/airzim" class="quote" target="_blank">airzim</a> (<a href="#10" class="quote">Reply 10</a>):<br/><i>The challenge with many of these very large ...

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by panova98
Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 787-8 To ANC
Replies: 31
Views: 11643

RE: United 787-8 To ANC

UA is absoluletly an abomination with its "change-of-gauge," 1-stop, direct flights, and "with stops" flight marketing shenanigans. I've complained about this to <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> and DOT for years. No other airline does this like <acronym title="United Airlines (US...

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by panova98
Fri May 15, 2015 3:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Frequency On Regionals Vs. Mainline Service.
Replies: 8
Views: 1515

RE: Frequency On Regionals Vs. Mainline Service.

I'd like to think this is all about reacting to customer revolt. For me, put in a regional and you've lost me as a customer, assuming there is an alternative. Maybe <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> is seeing that in others, too. But <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acron...

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by panova98
Mon May 04, 2015 6:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Washington Dulles - Mobile Lounges
Replies: 43
Views: 10776

RE: Washington Dulles - Mobile Lounges

As was said, the original versions that "mated" with a plane were an adventure what with passengers having to navigate the narrow walkway ramp--mover-to-the-plane. Essentially, you had to go outside on the ramps, battling the cold, wind, snow, rain, you name it! My dear Mom was terrified she was goi...

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by panova98
Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Foreign A/L Route Restrictions From/to US?
Replies: 0
Views: 1141

Foreign A/L Route Restrictions From/to US?

Just, curious. Yes, I know what happened to the cat! No, I make no claim for "need to know" privilege. Why aren't all airlines, regardless of their flag, given the same departure routes, for example, from Dulles, heading overseas? I don't mean the North Atlantic track, just the first few miles from ...

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by panova98
Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: West Bound Fuel Stops This Week Ex: DL5693 Mspyvr
Replies: 8
Views: 3860

RE: West Bound Fuel Stops This Week Ex: DL5693 Mspyvr

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/N628AU" class="quote" target="_blank">N628AU</a> (<a href="#6" class="quote">Reply 6</a>):<br/><i>Seattle had a ton of fog. Three diversions the...

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by panova98
Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: West Bound Fuel Stops This Week Ex: DL5693 Mspyvr
Replies: 8
Views: 3860

RE: West Bound Fuel Stops This Week Ex: DL5693 Mspyvr

The weather the past few days has been "something" most everywhere in the lower 48. Always interesting to see the diversions for whatever. I believe American's 1651, a 737-800 from Miami to Seattle is just about the longest domestic US nonstop going...about 2,720 stat miles, taking about 6:15 to 6:3...

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by panova98
Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What Is In Wendover, Utah?
Replies: 46
Views: 9350

RE: What Is In Wendover, Utah?

Love places like Wendover. No scheduled airline service, just casino charters. Laughlin, Nevada (through the Bullhead City, Arizona airport just across the river) has about 3 or 4 gambling charters every day. Harrah's-Laughlin and Don Laughlin's Riverside use Sun Country 737s and Republic E-170s fro...

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by panova98
Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hidden-City Ticketing Lawsuit
Replies: 90
Views: 14259

RE: Hidden-City Ticketing Lawsuit

Interesting topic. Maybe someone already mentioned it, but a few years back, some in Congress were planning to enact legislation to eliminate the airlines' prohibition on "hidden city" and"back-to-back" ticketing. The Wendell H. Ford Aviation Investment and Reform Act for the 21st Century (sounds pr...

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by panova98
Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: F9 Pulling Out Of MDT
Replies: 32
Views: 8526

RE: F9 Pulling Out Of MDT

People, people, people! We are talking about the airline industry here. I don't trust any carrier, but if you see the names Allegiant and Frontier, you know what you are in for...here today, gone tomorrow. It has nothing to do with Harrisburg. It's just the way these types of carriers operate. Front...

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by panova98
Sat Aug 09, 2014 7:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Federal City Pairs
Replies: 34
Views: 7838

RE: Federal City Pairs

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Vasu" class="quote" target="_blank">Vasu</a> (<a href="#3" class="quote">Reply 3</a>):<br/><i>Can anyone explain to an intrigued non-American wh...

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by panova98
Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any News On The To-be-outsourced UA Stations?
Replies: 61
Views: 10313

RE: Any News On The To-be-outsourced UA Stations?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/CALMSP" class="quote" target="_blank">CALMSP</a> (<a href="#56" class="quote">Reply 56</a>):<br/><i>but are you willing to pay for all that? </i...

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by panova98
Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any News On The To-be-outsourced UA Stations?
Replies: 61
Views: 10313

RE: Any News On The To-be-outsourced UA Stations?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/KGRB" class="quote" target="_blank">KGRB</a> (<a href="#15" class="quote">Reply 15</a>):<br/><i>What's so confusing about it to passengers? They...

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by panova98
Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DOT To Axe 13 EAS Markets, 1 Airline Adding Flts!
Replies: 52
Views: 11226

RE: DOT To Axe 13 EAS Markets, 1 Airline Adding Flts!

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/ScottB" class="quote" target="_blank">ScottB</a> (<a href="#41" class="quote">Reply 41</a>):<br/><i>IMO the key distinction here (and one I have...

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by panova98
Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Effect Of The Silver Line On IAD Growth
Replies: 11
Views: 3216

RE: Effect Of The Silver Line On IAD Growth

I think we're getting a little ahead of ourselvers thinking about the Silver Line to Dulles--like even by 2018 or 2019. Now, we Americans aren't too into public transportation, but it should be <acronym title="CSA Czech Airlines">OK</acronym>, if it ever gets to Dulles. The first phase of the Silver...

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by panova98
Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DOT To Axe 13 EAS Markets, 1 Airline Adding Flts!
Replies: 52
Views: 11226

RE: DOT To Axe 13 EAS Markets, 1 Airline Adding Flts!

Certainly, some very good points and questions. Just for the record, from DOT stats. At Nov. 1, 2013, there were 117 communities being subsidized under the EAS program (excludes Alaska but includes 2 routes in Hawaii and 1 in Puerto Rico). Total annual amount of subsidy was: $219,879, 243. As I allu...

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by panova98
Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DOT To Axe 13 EAS Markets, 1 Airline Adding Flts!
Replies: 52
Views: 11226

RE: DOT To Axe 13 EAS Markets, 1 Airline Adding Flts!

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/lightsaber" class="quote" target="_blank">lightsaber</a> (<a href="#15" class="quote">Reply 15</a>):<br/><i>Lancaster is located directly on one...

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by panova98
Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DOT To Axe 13 EAS Markets, 1 Airline Adding Flts!
Replies: 52
Views: 11226

RE: DOT To Axe 13 EAS Markets, 1 Airline Adding Flts!

Congress to the small communities of America: "DROP DEAD!" Congress to the rest of America trying to schedule a day-trip to the small communities of Amerca: "YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK!" Congress is intent on seeing that the EAS eligibility rules are such that NO small community will qualify for a subs...

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by panova98
Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA To Start Seasonal IAD-JAC
Replies: 9
Views: 3363

RE: UA To Start Seasonal IAD-JAC

There really are some beautiful places in our country and Jackson Hole is certainly one of them! Earlier this Spring <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> was offering <acronym title="Washington - Dulles International (IAD / KIAD), USA - Virginia">IAD</acronym> to <acronym title="Jacks...

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by panova98
Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dirty Jobs' Mike Rowe's Commentary On The CRJ700
Replies: 82
Views: 27439

RE: Dirty Jobs' Mike Rowe's Commentary On The CRJ700

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/DashTrash" class="quote" target="_blank">DashTrash</a> (<a href="#33" class="quote">Reply 33</a>):<br/><i>They don't have any to keep. </i></fon...

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by panova98
Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant Down To Two Hawaii Routes
Replies: 38
Views: 12080

RE: Allegiant Down To Two Hawaii Routes

Hello!

We are talking about Allegiant here, no? Is any route they start up, ever safe? If it is, they must have screwed up!

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by panova98
Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dirty Jobs' Mike Rowe's Commentary On The CRJ700
Replies: 82
Views: 27439

RE: Dirty Jobs' Mike Rowe's Commentary On The CRJ700

I'm sure that <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> has every intention in the world to farm out every last route it can to the regionals and the little planes. I doubt that lavatory issues have ever entered any of their decisions. I do enjoy flying on the 9-seaters--the Cape Air C409s...

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by panova98
Sun May 18, 2014 8:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Places UA DOESN'T Fly RJs To.
Replies: 55
Views: 9398

RE: Places UA DOESN'T Fly RJs To.

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/LOWS" class="quote" target="_blank">LOWS</a> (<a href="#22" class="quote">Reply 22</a>):<br/><i>Surely, I'm not the only person who saw this thr...

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by panova98
Tue May 13, 2014 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New 'Low-Fare Airline' TBA Coming To Dulles
Replies: 136
Views: 16744

RE: New 'Low-Fare Airline' TBA Coming To Dulles

What a year for the DC area: RGIII, Dan and the Skins, honor all the native Americans by winning the Super Bowl. Ovie and the Caps win the Stanley Cup. The Nats, Mr. Boswell tells me, are but a few days from clinching a spot in the World Series, and The Wiz, who'd a thought. Isn't it tonight they fi...

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by panova98
Wed May 07, 2014 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Hub To Hub
Replies: 82
Views: 13532

RE: UA Hub To Hub

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/toxtethogrady" class="quote" target="_blank">toxtethogrady</a> (<a href="#37" class="quote">Reply 37</a>):<br/><i>I see no reason for <acronym t...

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by panova98
Tue May 06, 2014 10:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Hub To Hub
Replies: 82
Views: 13532

RE: UA Hub To Hub

Taking <acronym title="Washington - Dulles International (IAD / KIAD), USA - Virginia">IAD</acronym>, for example, pick a day, say Thursday, May 8: To <acronym title="Chicago - O'Hare International (ORD / KORD), USA - Illinois">ORD</acronym>, 3 are regionals--600a, 332p, and 714p. To <acronym title=...

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by panova98
Mon May 05, 2014 8:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EAS Markets
Replies: 7
Views: 2582

RE: EAS Markets

knope2001, Great work, and I respect your opinions, too. Might not always agree with you, but nevertheless I appreciate your work. I have ridden on the service from a hub to a particular EAS community (I won't say which one right now) many, many times. Over time, the hub changed, as did the carrier....

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by panova98
Mon May 05, 2014 12:25 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Diversion Fuel Dump UA1662?
Replies: 15
Views: 6159

RE: Diversion Fuel Dump UA1662?

UA lists it as aircraft #3209. I see FlightAwawe no longer shows the path of the roughly hour and a half, mostly 5,000 foot. many looped flight from <acronym title="Washington - Ronald Reagan National (DCA / KDCA), USA - Virginia">DCA</acronym> to <acronym title="Washington - Dulles International (I...

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by panova98
Sun May 04, 2014 2:37 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Diversion Fuel Dump UA1662?
Replies: 15
Views: 6159

RE: Diversion Fuel Dump UA1662?

Thanks codc10, UA's Flight Status says flight landed. Hope all's well.

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by panova98
Sun May 04, 2014 2:07 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Diversion Fuel Dump UA1662?
Replies: 15
Views: 6159

Diversion Fuel Dump UA1662?

Just wondering, is this a diversion to <acronym title="Washington - Dulles International (IAD / KIAD), USA - Virginia">IAD</acronym> on Sun. morn, <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> 1662 737-800 <acronym title="Washington - Ronald Reagan National (DCA / KDCA), USA - Virginia">DCA</a...

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by panova98
Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:59 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: UA Fare Sale?
Replies: 15
Views: 4583

RE: UA Fare Sale?

Something very strange going on here. I could swear I and at least one other poster had this topic started in the civil aviation forum, not here in the Polls forum. I saw it there...then, bang it got obliterated and I never knew where it went until now. Maybe <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">U...

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by panova98
Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:38 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: UA Fare Sale?
Replies: 15
Views: 4583

UA Fare Sale?

Anyone else happen to be looking at fares on united.com sometime around 2pm EDT and wonder if they had hit the lottery?

I booked a seat, have a confirmation number, and wonder whether it will stand. Anyone?

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by panova98
Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ELY NV To Lose EAS Air Service
Replies: 11
Views: 5723

RE: ELY NV To Lose EAS Air Service

The EAS program has been discussed many times here. We all have opinions about the value of the program. What is it now, about a $200 million annual program? Money paid to airlines that fly the routes to serve small communities, the people who live, work, and play there and for everyone else in the ...

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by panova98
Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: De-Icing-How Is This Managed-ORD, LIT
Replies: 8
Views: 4477

RE: De-Icing-How Is This Managed-ORD, LIT

Thanks all. Great info. At <acronym title="Chicago - O'Hare International (ORD / KORD), USA - Illinois">ORD</acronym>, UAX ops were busy, to say the least and passengers were not in a particularly good mood, even if it was Christmas. Planes were sitting around everywhere, many, if not all for de-ici...

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by panova98
Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: De-Icing-How Is This Managed-ORD, LIT
Replies: 8
Views: 4477

De-Icing-How Is This Managed-ORD, LIT

For many of us this past week, weather and de-icing played a major factor in our enjoyment/displeasure of our travel. For us passengers, not involved in airline or aiport management, it would be helpful if someone could explain how de-icing management works. My trip was intended as a <acronym title=...

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by panova98
Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cape Air Offering $12 Fare LEB-BOS Or HPN
Replies: 26
Views: 5690

RE: Cape Air Offering $12 Fare LEB-BOS Or HPN

Flown Cape Air many, many times. In all types of weather.

Very small, but well run. Simple, quality service. If only there were more such carriers.

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by panova98
Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant To Start Service From Reno
Replies: 23
Views: 5425

RE: Allegiant To Start Service From Reno

These major-city, intrastate routes seem so interesting. <acronym title="Las Vegas - McCarran International (LAS / KLAS), USA - Nevada">LAS</acronym>-<acronym title="Reno / Tahoe - International (Cannon) (RNO / KRNO), USA - Nevada">RNO</acronym>, <acronym title="Philadelphia - International (PHL / K...

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by panova98
Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TWA B727's - Great Video!
Replies: 34
Views: 12589

RE: TWA B727's - Great Video!

Now there's a plane that could make some real noise. Living at the Virginia end of the Teddy Roosevelt bridge across the Potomac, on days with low cloud ceilings and the river noise abatement procedures weren't/couldn't be followed, you knew when a 727 was flying over. Power up! (Of course, the <acr...

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