http://nyc787.blogspot.com has updated the 787 delivery schedule to L/N 769 The two Air NZ 789s for 2018 delivery and the first for Air Tahiti Nui are: L/N 749 (ZB012 c/n 38182) Everett -- due 10 Sep 2018 -- ZK-NZN? -- owned L/N 750 (ZB908 c/n 39297) Charleston -- due 18 Sep 2018 -- F-O??? -- lease...Jump to post
UA to use 77W on SFO-AKL flights, frequency will be adjusted accordingly 29OCT17 – 17DEC17 6 weekly instead of 7 weekly (Day x1 from SFO, Day x3 from AKL) 18DEC17 – 22MAR18 7 weekly instead of 10 weekly http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/274584/united-adds-777-300er-auckland-service-i...Jump to post
Has anyone seen any real numbers on NZ freight loads to/from US destinations? I often wondered how much of a factor freight was in their reluctance to put the 789s in their original configuration onto US routes. The common view on a.net seems to be that freight is now becoming marginal in long-haul...Jump to post
Does anyone know whether NZ's 789 service is load restricted west-bound? Given the low frequency, do they offload passengers very often? I'd imagine it would be costly to reaccommodate. And has there been any change since the 789 replaced the 772? Westbound IAH -AKL the Code 2 789 is good for max p...Jump to post
PA515 wrote:ZK-OKC as NZ28 AKL-IAH has just done a U turn over northern Mexico and is now heading for LAX. IAH appears to have been closed for some time, so a bit strange they left it so late to divert.
My view is that NZ will shoot for the "big apple" NYC at some point. Before that it will probably be ORD. I expect that they will want to do both with one type since the sub fleets to do each would be be relatively small. In my view they will need the most efficient ~8500nm airplane they c...Jump to post
I can see pressure on Boeing from both QF and NZ for an earlier EIS for the B777-8X. This type looks a very good fit for the ULH aspirations of both carriers.Jump to post
[ Not sure why we see so much 77E bashing on this thread. The 77E is still very good at what it does,apart from fuel burn it is a far more versatile aircraft than the 787. Not only does it carry more pax over the same distance as the 787 it has a larger premium cabin and the ability to carry signif...Jump to post
My predictions of 2-3 yrs ago exactly... (We all love a bit of confirmation bias ;) ) Re comments that they should wait for the 777, id say that the potential to use cash they have tied up in A380 deposits would be a significant factor in the decision process. If they took the 777s, you'd have to a...Jump to post
There was a comment on Austbt that caught my attention. While this probably is no more than a rumour at this stage but QF management are in discussions with Airbus about converting the 8 388's not taken up into A359ULR's. While QF is probably talking to Boeing as well about the 778/779 it will be i...Jump to post
I agree. Based on what has been said to date, QF will not need EDTO>180 for the 789 till they start MEL-DFW, . How long such an application might take? I Know this probably should not considered a guide, but NZ needed 5 months to get AKL-EZE approval.Jump to post
[ ZK-NZL and ZK-NZM, the next 789's are due for delivery on October 12 and November 14 2017 respectively. I believe -NZM will be the first with the new Trent 1000 J3 engines. The first 787 overall, or the first for NZ? Will that one be for a new ULH flight with newer more powerful and more fuel eff...Jump to post
So is another ATR going to be the next delivered, or a A320 NEO? What is the current estimated delivery sequence? ZK-MVQ, the next ATR is due next month. ZK-NZL and ZK-NZM, the next 789's are due for delivery on October 12 and November 14 2017 respectively. Info on future deliveries for ATR, 320/32...Jump to post
I doubt any Q300s are leaving soon. So far nine have been fitted with ADS-B with each one taking about five days. None of the ATR72-500s have been fitted with ADS-B. ZK-NEB returned to service today and it looks like NEC will be next. The ADS-B equipped Q300s are NEB, NED, NEF, NEG, NEH, NEJ, NEK, ...Jump to post
[quote="keesje"]The A350 MTOW was raised last month, by 8 tonnes. That seems a significant bump in maximum payload (more than 10%). [quote/] The A350ULR still has a way to go! Last week in Part 3 of the Leeham series on QF SYD-LHR which QF say they can do in an ESAD of 9500nm Leeham calcul...Jump to post
I will disagree with you that they don't want anymore 789's, I would be surprised if they didn't take the remaining 6 on option, although maybe they could be converted to another type? Perhaps the 78X ? [quote/]Would NZ go 778 and not 779? Use the 778 ULH say NYC and have the same configuration for...Jump to post
I do agree with you, while QF with PER-LHR and UA with LAX-SIN are very long I'm sure they won't carry any freight and may block a handful of seats they seem a fair bit longer than anything NZ would attempt with the aircraft. . UA1 to SIN is going out full in J and typically 10 to 13 seats availabl...Jump to post
however during the 01 June 2017 Investor Day presentation, Chief Financial Officer Rob McDonald said the 777-200ER replacement would start from around 2022 and if they required wide-body units for the early part of next decade they could do that with operating leases. He said they have an option on...Jump to post
There are about 6 posts over the past 24 hrs that call for responses. Starting with the 789 and any implied deficiencies. First I am certain that NZ are operating these at something less than the maximum allowable MTOW. Probably at the MTOW when they took delivery of the first one. Thus they don’t h...Jump to post
DavidByrne wrote:I'm wondering if a ORD route would be served by 77W if the suggestion that SFO will switch to 789 turns out to be correct.
[I guess what surprises me - amazes me - is that you think Mr. Luxon is so naive - and that the BOD of Air NZ is even more naive to give Luxon that much power.mariner I was interested to see NZ Chairman Tony Carter in action on Investors day. Let there be no question but that Mr Carter is the boss....Jump to post
jhsusman wrote:Anyone hearing anything regarding a NZ AKL to Denver (DEN) announcement? I thought it was being discussed. . .
I think it will be fleet order announcement first, then route announcements (in that flight duration category). I'd say DEN offers little that IAH can't offer, and ORD is a big step for the current fleet so I think US market will wait until next fleet announced. My next pick is to Americas plural, ...Jump to post
Anyone hearing anything regarding a NZ AKL to Denver (DEN) announcement? I thought it was being discussed. . . I don't believe DEN is a possibility for the forseeable future.Because of the altitude the TOW would be significantly reduced on the existing fleet to the point that DEN-AKL. would be litt...Jump to post
On YVR-AKL the 789 is good for ~42t payload. PVG has some pretty heavy freight days. Except for these days the 78X would work just fine into Asia. Maybe a 77W 3x weekly into PVG to take care of freight demand. Would this frequency overcome the need to deadhead 77W crew to and from PVG? I should hav...Jump to post
Regulatory approval? Or more 789's? I'm guessing the 302 seater could make YVR-AKL with full pax and some freight? They are at this stage getting 4 78N's as you call them, personally I think they could end up with 23-25 787's with 10-12 777X's, maybe 778's with a similar capacity to the 77W to be u...Jump to post
This link provides the payload and fuel rationales. My view is that the 95kg allce per passenger incl. bags is too low.
https://leehamnews.com/2017/07/06/qanta ... am-part-3/
I suppose the other option is that John Thomas has seen the patient and is refusing to operate. The parallels between VA and the late 90s days of AN seem to me increasing by the day. I feel sad about it, but airlines that loose big in the boom times like those recently past rarely survive in the mi...Jump to post
Actually, after the teething pains of the 787 program, I'd like to have the 100th or higher LN airframe :) The pains were with the 788. The execution of the 789 and 78X were pretty much flawless. If the 797 ? is the same technology it should go together like a charm. I can see this with a MEW not t...Jump to post
As you know Air NZ management were on the record earlier as saying the 789 couldn't do North America. I took that as shorthand for saying they couldn't do those routes with the sort of payloads (pax + freight) that their business model required. This was a statement by Stephen Jones. It is generall...Jump to post
The 789 is a fine aircraft. Within its payload/range limitations it seems to be doing really well for its operators. Sadly for a-netters it is up against hard limits on both MTOW and fuel. That means you can only get the longer ranges by slashing payload. NZ have cut pax to 270 to allow North Ameri...Jump to post
bill142 wrote:This is a joint VA-EY order.
No, it is quite clear that it is 20 777Xs. Boeing has 33 777 orders ytd. 1 777F for FX (Jan), 8 UFO 77W (March), 4 77W for UA (last week), and these 20 777Xs (last week). With respect, If you go to the orders report dated June 23rd , sorted by model you will see 10 777X in the unid order column and...Jump to post
My take on the report is that there are 10 UFO 777X not 20. The SQ order is still to be entered since the details are still to be finalized. This raises the question who is the customer for the 10 UFO's . NZ?Jump to post