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by chrisjake
Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 366
Views: 33168

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021

Do any of you (fellow) old-timers remember a charter airline called American Eagle Airlines (no connection to AA at all) that was supposed to have operated B707 charter flights from CLE to FRA in summer of 1980 (and possibly 1981)? I did find an article about it, but still cannot locate any additio...

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by chrisjake
Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 366
Views: 33168

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021

^^ Fun stuff. I remember TAG (which stood for Taxi Air Group btw) Airlines' Doves seemed like they were constantly in-n-out of BKL. Burke was a busy little airport back then.

I also recall that those TWA one-stop Europe 707's thru JFK stuck around for many years...into the 1980s.

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by chrisjake
Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 366
Views: 33168

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021

Looks like UA is trying to compete with the F9, NK, and G4's of the world, doing point-to-point flying. At first I thought this was about CLE, but reading the UA press release, its more about Hilton Head and/or Myrtle Beach, SC--we just benefit from this new UA strategy. Those two little places are...

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by chrisjake
Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 366
Views: 33168

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021

https://www.wkyc.com/article/travel/uni ... 6fb064e457
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United announces 5 new nonstop leisure routes from CLE for the summer

https://www.wkyc.com/article/travel/uni ... 6fb064e457

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by chrisjake
Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 366
Views: 33168

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021

Went past the 100th Bomb Group restaurant a couple of times today and noticed nobody in the parking lot watching planes. There's ALWAYS someone up there when I go by. On my last pass by I took a look and noticed the parking lot gates are now all locked up. I knew the restaurant was closing..but the ...

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by chrisjake
Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 366
Views: 33168

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021

The parallel runways can definitely handle all types other than the AN225 and A380. When a 747 or A340 (and some select others), a runway check is required by City Ops. This is due to the runway WIDTH only being 150ft instead of 200ft. The longer wingspan aircraft overhang the edge of the runways w...

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by chrisjake
Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 366
Views: 33168

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021

The flights never even flew. They just kept pushing the date back further and further and then just removed Cleveland from their booking engine completely. I think it’s safe to say they’ve dumped us for Cincinnati. I don't think they would have had much success here anyway. I'll be surprised if the...

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by chrisjake
Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

Another schedule extension from Frontier through December 2021. As for routes that have seemed to be in limbo, CLE-MSP, CLE-PUJ, CLE-FLL, CLE-SAN, CLE-AUS, CLE-CHS are all not on the schedule. Probably safe to assume they’ve been cut. Is CLE-RDU still on the schedule? For the last couple of years, ...

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by chrisjake
Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69522

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

Western Global N542KD is sitting in Cleveland as I type this. They've replaced UPS MD11s on their SDF-CLE-SDF run the last couple of days.

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by chrisjake
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

MohawkWeekend wrote:
Did I see a C-17 sitting on the ramp today? My car is so small you can't see the field completely from Brookpark Rd. Also an F-15 just flew over at around 6000 feet southbound. To early for a flyby at the Yankee - CLE game.


Presidential debate is in town tonight as well

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by chrisjake
Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

phy576 wrote:
Why is there a Delta flight from Detroit to BKL today? It's a 757. It landed around 8, and seems headed to Milwaukee around 11. Is this a chartered Trump campaign flight for DL?


Its taking the Cincinnati Reds to Milwaukee for their next series.

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by chrisjake
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

CLE has quite the cargo history. I can recall seeing cargo planes from American, United, Airlift, Air Canada, Zantop, Flying Tiger, Trans Continental (DC-6's!), SMB Stage Lines, Airborne, UPS, FedEx and I'm probably forgetting some. Those of you that have been in Cleveland for awhile might remember ...

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by chrisjake
Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

July 24, 2020 is the 60th anniversary of regularly scheduled jet service at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport by United Air Lines, followed a week later by American Airlines. Take a look at when “Jetmania” swept Cleveland with the arrival of the early jets. Please read and share my new articl...

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by chrisjake
Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

Looks like CLE will have 2 jetBlue A320's RON starting in October. The flight from RSW arrives at 845pm and FLL arrives at 1205am. Flights leave the following morning at 7am for FLL and 8am for RSW.

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by chrisjake
Thu May 21, 2020 12:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippine Airlines nonstop Manila - Miami
Replies: 21
Views: 5430

Re: Philippine Airlines nonstop Manila - Miami

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/PAL ... /KLAX/PGUM
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Looks like they decided to detour to Guam on the way from LAX-MNL. Fuel or medical? 77W should be able to do LAX-MNL

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/PAL ... /KLAX/PGUM

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by chrisjake
Tue May 12, 2020 5:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

Does CLE have around 30 flights a day now? SW - 10, DL - 6, UA - 4, AC - 0, AA - ? Spirit - ? Frontier - ? Allegiant - ? B6 - ? Last I heard was AA was at about 8. F9 and NK arw both at 1 less than daily, G4 is anyone's guess. They have flights scheduled but most seem to cancel. I have counted betw...

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by chrisjake
Sat May 09, 2020 12:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Person killed by plane on runway at Austin
Replies: 97
Views: 25623

Re: Person killed by plane on runway at Austin

On liveatc.net, it starts at 11:45 into the archive for Tower #1 at AUS, with DL819 (an A220 with a very clear radio) calling in and being cleared to land. WN is given taxi instructions and says "standby". WN then tells TWR that they believe there's a person on the runway. TWR tells DL819...

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by chrisjake
Fri May 08, 2020 5:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Person killed by plane on runway at Austin
Replies: 97
Views: 25623

Re: Person killed by plane on runway at Austin

On liveatc.net, it starts at 11:45 into the archive for Tower #1 at AUS, with DL819 (an A220 with a very clear radio) calling in and being cleared to land. WN is given taxi instructions and says "standby". WN then tells TWR that they believe there's a person on the runway. TWR tells DL819...

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by chrisjake
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

That's pretty cool...I've never seen that. I spent 3 yrs working for Marriott-Host in the early 80s at CLE and that is exactly how I remember it. Looks it was filmed right when Braniff started service, Allegheny became USAir and North Central became Republic.

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by chrisjake
Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

https://clevelandmemory.contentdm.oclc. ... 483/rec/50

Cleveland Memory Project has plenty of old Cleveland photos and drawings to peruse through. Quite a few from both CLE and BKL
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Found it: https://clevelandmemory.contentdm.oclc. ... 483/rec/50

Cleveland Memory Project has plenty of old Cleveland photos and drawings to peruse through. Quite a few from both CLE and BKL

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by chrisjake
Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

Yes, AL Commuter to Galion & Mansfield! They used to fly the DH Heron on the route. Those were the days... yep, like this guy: https://www.flickr.com/photos/chris_jacobs_photography/6551560541/in/photolist-jwttUK-aYtwuz-aYWsGn https://www.flickr.com/photos/chris_jacobs_photography/6546305289/in...

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by chrisjake
Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

Do you guys recall if it was Allegheny or US Airways Commuter that operated C-212 (Spanish military transports converted to airliners) into Cleveland? I painfully learned the lesson never to drink 2 beers before you board a 200 MPH aircraft with no bathroom. The flight was just from CMH to CLE but ...

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by chrisjake
Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

Do you guys recall if it was Allegheny or US Airways Commuter that operated C-212 (Spanish military transports converted to airliners) into Cleveland? I painfully learned the lesson never to drink 2 beers before you board a 200 MPH aircraft with no bathroom. The flight was just from CMH to CLE but ...

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by chrisjake
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

I flew it, more than once. I would always get back to S.Florida in the evening and have the long drive north to Tamarac where I lived at the time. Made for a very late night.

re: TWA 800/803... You are correct... TWA 700/703 became 800/803 at one point.

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by chrisjake
Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

The Pan Am 727 originated at JFK and did JFK-CLE-CVG. It always did JFK-CLE, but at different times it would continue on from CLE to CVG or IND or MSP. It was a JFK international feeder, just like TWA's daily 707, flight 700/703. Pan Am also fed their Miami hub from Cleveland for years. When I live...

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by chrisjake
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

I forgot the PanAm 310. Pan Am also ran a 727-200 from Cincinnati to Cleveland briefly. I forget why they flew that (maybe to feed the flight to Detroit and the London) but my sister-in-law took the flight cause it was only like $25. Also didn't know about the UA/AA 767's. I think the EA L-1011 was...

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by chrisjake
Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

Did any of you guys go on the United DC-10 Open House? When the DC-10's began service, they brought one in at the first gate on D and let the public walk on board for a tour. I didn't realize that AA brought a 747 to Cleveland. So in terms of widebodies that were scheduled into CLE, NW had the DC-1...

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by chrisjake
Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

I never saw the AA 747, just the DC-10. I have OAG's back to 1975 packed away...since I'm stuck at home I'll try to dig some out from back then. I always saved OAG's back then too...never saw listed, simply a small PD post about a 3 day week substitution (August only in 78 or so) that alerted me an...

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by chrisjake
Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

Did any of you guys go on the United DC-10 Open House? When the DC-10's began service, they brought one in at the first gate on D and let the public walk on board for a tour. I didn't realize that AA brought a 747 to Cleveland. So in terms of widebodies that were scheduled into CLE, NW had the DC-1...

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by chrisjake
Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

I never saw the AA 747, just the DC-10. I have OAG's back to 1975 packed away...since I'm stuck at home I'll try to dig some out from back then.

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by chrisjake
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

It seemed out of nowhere circa 1979, both UA (DC-8-61) and AA (DC-10) started flying night coach JFK-CLE-LAX after the "oil crisis" capacity cutbacks. Departues from CLE were around 11:15pm. I saw in the PD that coming in August (79?) AA would substitute the DC-10 with a 747 three times a...

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by chrisjake
Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

In my youth, back in the 70s, I lived for a time on the Strongsville/Berea border and I could always tell the time of day by the arrivals of the Allegheny Commuter/Fischer Brothers DeHavilland Herons which always used runway 36 for their arrivals from Mansfield.

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by chrisjake
Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:50 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Odd CAB routes
Replies: 27
Views: 2766

Re: Odd CAB routes

Northeast flew Chicago - Cleveland - Manchester .... also Chicago - Detroit - Burlington as shown on this map from 1969 http://www.departedflights.com/NE060169.html http://www.departedflights.com/NE060169.jpg and later on Los Angeles - Miami I believe the CLE flight went into Burlington and the Det...

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by chrisjake
Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

As of today, United has about 71 planes parked in CLE. 37 ERJ, 32 737, 1 320 and 1 E75. Anybody able to get some pictures of what this looks like around the field? Curious to see where/how they're parking them in CLE after seeing all the pics of PIT. https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/49734...

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by chrisjake
Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

avtcle wrote:
United is parking around 40 737s in Cleveland for the foreseeable future. They’ll be coming in for the next couple of days. From what I understand they’ll squeeze many in around Concourse D and around the maintenance campus.


Nice to see that CLE is valuable to UAL in some way. :roll:

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by chrisjake
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 1025
Views: 119505

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2020

greenair727 wrote:
The article says 400 R&D employees will move to CLE from MSP---those people (and their families) will travel where ever and travel back home to MSP to see family and friends


...which is exactly why Sun County starts MSP-CLE in 2020

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by chrisjake
Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Freight Peak Season 2019 Discussion
Replies: 109
Views: 12874

Re: Freight Peak Season 2019 Discussion

So the Western Global aircraft that were flying Peak for UPS have almost-all returned now to either RSW (WGN's home) or SHV (its recently-created in-house maintenance shop). Most went to these locations on 12/24/19. 542KD to RSW 411SN to RSW 412SN to SHV on 12/24 but went flying on 12/26 for USTRAN...

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by chrisjake
Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1568
Views: 254061

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019

CLESpotter95 wrote:
Super Guppy is bringing the Orion spacecraft to NASA Glenn today. Anyone have an idea of when it will arrive at CLE?


Its not for NASA Glenn, its for NASA Plum Brook in Sandusky and the Guppy will be landing at MFD around 1430.

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by chrisjake
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1568
Views: 254061

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019

[url][/url] If they follow previous aircraft routing this aircraft should arrive as UA2204 from ORD , spends the night and departs as UA763 to DEN at 7:00 am the next morning. Awesome. I'll be there at 0530 Wednesday! May have to hold your horses. Just checked FR24 and the Star Wars Livery N36272 i...

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by chrisjake
Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Miami Air new livery
Replies: 17
Views: 5805

Miami Air new livery

https://worldairlinenews.com/2019/10/10 ... ew-livery/

Looks a lot like another airline's recent new livery. At least it doesn't have billboard titling like almost every other airline on the planet.
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https://worldairlinenews.com/2019/10/10 ... ew-livery/

Looks a lot like another airline's recent new livery. At least it doesn't have billboard titling like almost every other airline on the planet.

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by chrisjake
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will anyone pick up AA’s retired MD80’s ?
Replies: 50
Views: 12168

Re: Will anyone pick up AA’s retired MD80’s ?

Wouldn't surprise me if Aeronaves TSM grabbed some. They seem to have gravitated to the CRJ and MD80 lately.

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by chrisjake
Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:04 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Looking for Dulles IAD spotting info - hotels and stuff
Replies: 20
Views: 12623

Re: Looking for Dulles IAD spotting info - hotels and stuff

Some observations after spotting at IAD over this past weekend. First....thanks to all for their insight, it helped greatly in finding the locations. IAD is a beautiful airport, and that terminal is really something special to see in person. As for spotting, the locations were perfectly described on...

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by chrisjake
Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Looking for Dulles IAD spotting info - hotels and stuff
Replies: 20
Views: 12623

Re: Looking for Dulles IAD spotting info - hotels and stuff

The day is near. We're booked at the Crowne Plaza in Sterling for the weekend of 7/27. One quick question, my buddy is coming with me and he has never seen an A380 before....I see that Air France and Emirates will fly in A380s that weekend. Is there a specific runway they use at IAD? I see Mikhail's...

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by chrisjake
Fri May 31, 2019 1:53 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Looking for Dulles IAD spotting info - hotels and stuff
Replies: 20
Views: 12623

Re: Looking for Dulles IAD spotting info - hotels and stuff

Mikhail, thanks for that post. That's some great info! I'm going to take some time and study everything you've mentioned. I was considering a side trip to BWI, but that may change to DCA now that you've mentioned it. Thanks!!

Chris

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by chrisjake
Fri May 31, 2019 12:21 am
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Looking for Dulles IAD spotting info - hotels and stuff
Replies: 20
Views: 12623

Looking for Dulles IAD spotting info - hotels and stuff

I'm going to be taking a spotting road trip to Washington Dulles in about a month or so. I found a few websites online showing where the spotting locations are, but I would love to hear from some locals or regulars about the ins-and-outs of the area, or what their favorite locations are and why. I'v...

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by chrisjake
Wed May 29, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio
Replies: 89
Views: 10051

Re: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio

Lets not forget CLE also had service to Belgrade at one point. That was Budapest, on MA. Or, hey, was there Belgrade, too?? Did they manage to attract not one, but several looney airlines? Depending on the day of the week, JAT flew DC-10s either CLE-ORD-BEG-CLE or CLE-ORD-LJU-CLE I believe it was 2...

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by chrisjake
Fri May 24, 2019 3:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1568
Views: 254061

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019

I noticed Castle Aviation, a freight feeder, has switched from Cessna Caravans to Fairchild-Swearingen SA-227s. Specs are a little scanty on cargo versions of the new plane. Is this a step up in capacity for them? Unless something has changed recently, Castle has used a variety of Caravan's, Metrol...

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by chrisjake
Mon May 20, 2019 3:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1568
Views: 254061

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019

Ncflyer: I've read your posts to articles in the PD. Apparently Susan Glaser disaproved of my critique of Cleveland politicians and deleted my posts. Whoa---that's big news. That's big news? Cleveland.com has been doing that for years. I've had dozens of comments that criticized city hall deleted. ...

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by chrisjake
Mon May 13, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW-LAN. Why?
Replies: 69
Views: 8467

Re: DTW-LAN. Why?????

Excellent! Thank you tjwgrr!

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