This time line would make for an interesting next 12 months here on a.net! :D BCA CEO said they could announce in '19 and still keep '25 EIS. Sounds very familiar to Boeing from 2004: "WE NEED ONLY 4 YEARS FROM LAUNCH TO EIS FOR OUR NEW PLANE, THE AWESOME DREAMLINER!!!" Some people will n...Jump to post
Wonderful! She's a beauty!Jump to post
My fingers are crossed for Airbus winning this one. A350-1000ULR will be stunning, capable and efficient machine!Jump to post
I like it.
It's got a bit of the original LaudaAir feeling to it.
KarelXWB wrote:those 320neos are still new as of now and will still be new as of around 2020 with years of backlog. Perhaps more likely to be in 2030-ish time frame, but Airbus was alreeady going to replace A320 series with some new narrowbody in 2030s?
People! Look at the BIG picture. Airbus isn't killing any CS500. If anything, they've just got CS500 handed over on a silver platter! I'd say that Airbus has cleverly killed off CS500. 2017: - CS100 (110 pax) - CS300 (140 pax) - A320neo (170 pax) - A321neo (200 pax) Circa 2020, Airbus will have to e...Jump to post
Boeing did not take the A320 seriously and did not aggressively pursue JetBlue when they were looking for a narrowbody aircraft. Had Boeing been more negotiable with some airlines, the 737- A320 split might have more in Boeing's favor. Never underestimate your competitor. Actually, Boeing didn't ta...Jump to post
Dutchy wrote:So is Canada put in a tax of 300% on Boeing craft? Than Airbus will be the laughing third party in this.
Just as I predicted, this is turning to another "UA will cancel A350 order" - type thread. So... American won't cancel it's A350 order. They'll defer it and increase it to cover replacement of their 777-200ERs, with options for the eventual 777-300ER replacement by A350-1000s. And yes, the...Jump to post
why are people using the word 'protectionism'? Boeing if anything, is practicing sound business ethics. Something we all should have learned growing up. Can't help but recall that USAF tanker procurement fiasco. The words, "sound", "business" and especially "ethics" we...Jump to post
seahawk wrote:The reasoning behind the decision is interesting. When it comes to launch aid, the same is true for Airbus.
This entire proceeding is one big hogwash by one big crybaby named boeing, who runs to the government like a spoiled brat crying when his neighbour's kid has better toys than he does.
Like I said - I hope this bites boeing in the balls BIG TIME. Pun intended.
What did Boeing call their below cost to United deal to block the CS deal for United. I'd say selling under cost makes Boeing a price dumper as well. also sorry guys but Delta was right Boeing had nothing to offer in the seat catagory so if it's price dumping they should file a dispute against Boei...Jump to post
This is going to bite boeing in the @$$ BIG TIME. It's now Canada's turn: here's to the 220% tarriff on all 737s, 777s and 787s bought by WestJet, Air Canada and Air Transat. Bombardier still has the rest of the world. Keep up good job, my fellow Canadians, don't give in to the idiots south of your ...Jump to post
CSeries isn't selling because at least in one recent campaign, Boeing defeated it by offering its own, obsolete and inferior product at a dumping price themselves. Bombardier itself is hampered by issues with the powerplant, however data from Swiss and Air Baltic speaks for itself - the plane is bur...Jump to post
I'm sorry for that, this new quoting mechanism is... flawed, to say the least.Jump to post
I haven't followed the recent discussions as I should. So sorry for asking- do we already know if it will be a single or twin aisle? I always thought it'll be a single aisle. Boeing seems to be fixated on what they call "hybrid cross section": a 767-like 7-abreast passenger cabin with nar...Jump to post
If BBD violates the law should it not be enforced?
Boeing 777-9 is too big for American. 777-300ER is as big as it'll get for a while.
Then, A350-1000 as a replacement.
I'm in the camp that roots for American "doing United". I see American increase the order for A350-900 to replace all of its 777-200ERs with options for larger -1000 as an eventual replacement for its 777-300ERs as well.Jump to post
...and some people still want United to cancel their A350 order.
seahawk wrote:UA only pushed there decision into the future. They might even still cancel the A350.
I'll open the can of worms, what the hell...
United will eventually replace their 777-300ERs with A350-1000, in due time. Now - go ahead. Hate me all you want, Boeing cheergirls. xD
How about just flying the flag of Norway, and maybe Ireland on the tail since Norwegian Air is NOT in any way an American air carrier. After all, United, Delta and American don't need gimmicky tail schemes to convince Europeans that they are something they are not. Obviously, you don't get the poin...Jump to post
Ruscoe wrote:Does anyone know how Boeing is modifying the wing on the 10 to reduce the low speed drag?
scotron11 wrote:Surprised seeing as all the carriers that were "suckered" into the 787 that never delivered EIS.
There's a picture on Twitter showing CS300 with Delta logo.
The 4 additional 77W's will bring UA's fleet up to 18 which casts doubt on whether UA will take delivery of all 35 A35J's currently on order. At the beginning of the fleet review process there was an executive who was question by employees over the Bloomberg article and he told employees at WHQ he ...Jump to post
The writing was on the wall the minute Boeing launched 777-300ER. People, it's time to MOVE ON.
Your "queen" is DEAD.
I am laughing at Leahy's comment on 240 seats on a narrowbody. How many airlines are lining up for this really bad option for the consumer. Boarding and deplaning would take forever thereby damaging operating times. Take a wide body like a B767 type over a narrowbody that long. This plane would be ...Jump to post
Boeing's own b*tching turned against them. Maybe they will finally stop complaining and get their @$$es back to work and start designing real airplanes, not "updating" obsolete 737s.
Because the only way Boeing can sell planes is by giving them away cheap, right. :roll: Thanks for that input John, I mean keesje. Well, Boeing did sell 737s to United at a dumping price before, so they're likely to do that again. Not just cheap, Keesje implied that the 737-10 upgrade is free. I ho...Jump to post
africawings wrote:Dear all;
Is there any possibility for a 747-8 SP?
I don't know if that's quite right. The 764 made more sense for existing 763 operators and the 332 made sense for existing 333 operators. It's not like BA or NH bought the 332 over the 764; they just did not purchase an aircraft of that rough size (the 772 fleets of both no doubt had an impact). In...Jump to post
The 767-400ER was built as a result of a joint request by DL and CO to replace their L-1011 and DC-10 fleets, respectively. As a result, the 767-400ER was basically built to DL and CO specs, not the rest of the industry. Nothing could be much farther from the truth. The 767-400 was built by Boeing ...Jump to post
So, per Boeing's logic, it's OK to sell 737s at dumping price. But if Bombardier does the same for CSeries, it's "unfair", "unjust", "not right"...
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Go Bombardier! Fight the fight!
1. You have no idea who is actually interested in the MAX 10. I do, actually. It's all over Twitter with links to legit media sources. 2. It'll be nearly a decade before a clean sheet debuts - plenty of time to get a return on the MAX 10. Per United and Udvar-Hazy, EIS for NMA/MOM is 2025, if launc...Jump to post