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by NYCAAer
Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DFW Airport marks 40 years as an American Airlines hub
Replies: 14
Views: 2588

Re: DFW Airport marks 40 years as an American Airlines hub

And also the AA hub meant the demise of Braniff, probably more noteworthy than the DL hub closure.

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by NYCAAer
Mon May 24, 2021 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Let's buy a BAC 1-11
Replies: 50
Views: 7664

Re: Let's buy a BAC 1-11

It would be incredible to bring thus aircraft to the US and restore it as Mohawk Airlines. If you want to put a 1-11 into Mohawk colours you'd do better to rescue N1117J from Orlando. That one was originally delivered new to Mohawk back in the sixties. Mind you, N1117J has been sitting at Orlando f...

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by NYCAAer
Thu May 20, 2021 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Let's buy a BAC 1-11
Replies: 50
Views: 7664

Re: Let's buy a BAC 1-11

The short ones we saw in the States were the right proportion unlike the 500's which looked rather strange with the small rudder. They were perfect......... I still feel it was the loudest jet to operate in the the US. I remember watching the BAC-1-11s of Mohawk from the outdoor observation deck of...

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by NYCAAer
Tue May 18, 2021 11:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Let's buy a BAC 1-11
Replies: 50
Views: 7664

Re: Let's buy a BAC 1-11

Only if we can paint it in the black and gold livery of Mohawk in the 1960s/early 1970s!

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by NYCAAer
Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM News and Discussion Thread - 2021
Replies: 281
Views: 61519

Re: Air France KLM News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Loving the new safety video. I'm not sure, but is the lady the same one from the "France is in the air" safety video from a few years back? It looks like her, but she sounds different. Yes, it’s the same actress. She’s grown up and matured a bit since the last video. She’s a French-Spanis...

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by NYCAAer
Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan am and TWA move from ORY to CDG
Replies: 26
Views: 5161

Re: Pan am and TWA move from ORY to CDG

I have done some digging around, in 1990 Pan Am flew the following from Paris CDG CDG to Geneva PA114 A310 daily CDG to Miami PA135 747 4 weekly CDG to New York JFK PA115 747 PA119 A310 both daily CDG to Tel Aviv PA118 727 daily CDG to Washington IAD PA141 A310 daily In addition PA134 went onto Fra...

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by NYCAAer
Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan am and TWA move from ORY to CDG
Replies: 26
Views: 5161

Re: Pan am and TWA move from ORY to CDG

AA relocated from ORY to CDG in October 1999. American viewed its Paris location at ORY as a competitive advantage given its proximity to central Paris, and resisted the move as long as possible, but the French government forced all the TATL carriers to shift to CDG that were not already there and ...

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by NYCAAer
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan am and TWA move from ORY to CDG
Replies: 26
Views: 5161

Re: Pan am and TWA move from ORY to CDG

The idea was that all North Atlantic flights would move from ORY to CDG, meaning all US airlines would have to move, and that process would take time. I cannot remember the overall timeframe, but I distinctly remembering it seemed to take AA a very long time to make the move which worked well for u...

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by NYCAAer
Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:21 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: DC-3/DC-4s on transatlantic routes
Replies: 8
Views: 2088

Re: DC-3/DC-4s on transatlantic routes

The first transatlantic flight to operate after WWII was an American Overseas Airlines DC-4 in October of 1945. The routing was New York-Gander-Shannon-London. Pan Am and Air France also operated the DC-4 on transatlantic routes, and I believe TWA did as well. Air France operated the DC-4 to New Yor...

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by NYCAAer
Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 10/27/2020:DL PSP-SEA,CUN-CVG/RDU,EYWLGA Daily;UA Adds BER Breaks Curse,Extends Sun Adds;4B BWIORF,EUGPDX
Replies: 52
Views: 10895

Re: OAG Changes 10/27/2020:DL PSP-SEA,CUN-CVG/RDU,EYWLGA Daily;UA Adds BER Breaks Curse,Extends Sun Adds;4B BWIORF,EUGPD

So now AA won’t be restarting JFK-GRU and JFK-EZE as previously planned on December 17th. And DFW-MAD is going away for the winter as well. It’s going to be a rough winter for international flights, or lack thereof.

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by NYCAAer
Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: American Airlines Business & Finance Discussion
Replies: 597
Views: 113855

Re: Doug Steenland to join B.O.D. at American

Former NW CEO DOug Steenland is set to join AA's board. http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2020/American-Airlines-Names-Douglas-M-Steenland-to-its-Board-of-Directors-CORP-EXEC-10/?utm_source=News_Alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsroom_Alerts I'd like to think people can change, but ...

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by NYCAAer
Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:56 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: American Airlines policy allowing BLM pins faces backlash from workers
Replies: 69
Views: 6515

Re: American Airlines policy allowing BLM pins faces backlash from workers

AA would be wise to stay out of anything conceived as controversial, hence the reasoning when American Airlines was American Airlines, and not America West International, that employees were prohibited from wearing any political pins or buttons, religious symbols and whatever else. As a legacy AA em...

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by NYCAAer
Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:25 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines DC 10-10 3 class
Replies: 34
Views: 4928

Re: American Airlines DC 10-10 3 class

The MD-11 was a fun plane to work, and the initial Pacific version that AA used in all markets including transatlantic, was so modern at the time. There was an LED indicator in the galleys that showed the flight attendants the seat number of where a call light went off. On the right hand side of bus...

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by NYCAAer
Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:41 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines DC 10-10 3 class
Replies: 34
Views: 4928

Re: American Airlines DC 10-10 3 class

AA flew one of the DC10-10 (ER) versions with 3 class F/J/Y on JFK-ORY in the early 1990s. These were the same DC10's used on many JFK-LAX transcons. JFK-SFO operated mainly on the 767-200 ER by then, but there was DC10s thrown into the schedule as well. The DC-10s used on JFK-ORY in that time peri...

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by NYCAAer
Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aviation sector unpaid leaves and layoffs thread
Replies: 1501
Views: 48097

Re: American to cut 19,000 jobs in October

jetsetter629 wrote:
What about corporate employees or have they already been made redundant?


According to Reuters, 1,500 management jobs are being cut. I assume that’s part of the 5,000 announced earlier this year and not additional cuts.

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by NYCAAer
Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BOS to LHR in the 90s
Replies: 39
Views: 6961

Re: BOS to LHR in the 90s

[*]BA, VS, AA, and UA operated BOS-LHR at the time. The UA flight was relatively short lived. It was once daily, on a 767-300ER. It launched in 1998 and ended in 1999 or 2000. Aircraft wise, I believe it was something like this: British Airways (747-200, 747-400, 777-200) Virgin Atlantic (A340-300 ...

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by NYCAAer
Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boarding from the Starboard Side
Replies: 26
Views: 5155

Re: Boarding from the Starboard Side

[twoid][/twoid] At AA JFK back in the late ‘80s we used to deplane and board our DC10’s from the right side sometimes. That was such a weird thing. And I want to say it was gate 5 or 6, but not sure about this. Oh. And we would use both the 1R and 2R doors. I remember that! As a flight attendant, it...

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by NYCAAer
Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:33 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: In-flight magazines
Replies: 31
Views: 2179

Re: In-flight magazinesa

No one reads them anymore. Pretty broad, generalized statement. Maybe, but it stems from my observations of years working as a flight attendant in the premium cabins on long haul. I think the passengers up there would laugh if I asked them what they thought of American Way. The only ones who get ex...

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by NYCAAer
Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:58 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: In-flight magazines
Replies: 31
Views: 2179

Re: In-flight magazinesa

American still has American Way in the seatback pockets, but I noticed it’s much thinner than it used to be. AA also had Celebrated Living in the first and business class cabins, and Nexos, the Spanish and Portuguese language inflight magazine, in all cabins. I’m not sure if Celebrated Living and Ne...

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by NYCAAer
Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1688
Views: 225239

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

There is no blocked seat on the 787 for pilots on the way to Europe. There is only 1 person on break at a time and 2 in the cockpit. 1 person has the entire bunk area just for them. Why would they need a seat in the cabin? I believe the bunk area isn't approved to be occupied on take off or landing...

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by NYCAAer
Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1688
Views: 225239

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

There is no blocked seat on the 787 for pilots on the way to Europe. There is only 1 person on break at a time and 2 in the cockpit. 1 person has the entire bunk area just for them. Why would they need a seat in the cabin? We only block off one J seat for the pilots on the 772 to Europe and South A...

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by NYCAAer
Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1688
Views: 225239

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

The pilot bunks above deck have 2 bunks, but only one seat. On flights to Asia, or other long haul routes where there are 4 pilots, a seat in the business class cabin is needed for the second pilot on crew rest. That doesn't make any sense...if there are 2 bunks, don't tell me AA was forced by some...

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by NYCAAer
Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1688
Views: 225239

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

No seat is blocked on the 787. They have a huge area upstairs where they can rest and sleep. Why would they need a tiny first class seat when they basically have their own bedroom up there? The pilot bunks above deck have 2 bunks, but only one seat. On flights to Asia, or other long haul routes whe...

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by NYCAAer
Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1688
Views: 225239

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

The 787 has crew bunks upstairs for the pilots and flight attendants. There is no blocking of seats. Yes there are crew bunks. But from what I understand, there is one J seat reserved for pilot resting due to contractual obligations. I don't know the criteria as I mentioned before. However, the 788...

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by NYCAAer
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership
Replies: 724
Views: 110404

Re: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership

AA’s share in the JV with BA is much lower, more like 35-40%. 50% is another assumption, all of this is pure speculation again without facts.

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by NYCAAer
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership
Replies: 724
Views: 110404

Re: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership

JFK-MXP more then likely has to do with the corporate travel from my years of flying the route. Once I flew JFK-MXP on AA in Y, for $350RT on their 767 in February. In economy there were only 30-40 passengers while business was full. The others are quite similar: EK (good access to the U.S and all ...

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by NYCAAer
Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership
Replies: 724
Views: 110404

Re: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership

Not transatlantic. He said it was the first time they made money flying internationally, which includes some of those new Caribbean destinations they added. Not 100% sure, but I think someone earlier said JFK's TATL lost money overall? Hard to see how JFK international would make money overall if t...

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by NYCAAer
Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership
Replies: 724
Views: 110404

Re: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership

Seems like Delta finally pushed American to its last resort: to rely on other brands in key markets. While this partnership (B6 and AA) can be a successs, it is certain admission that American can never go it alone again without digging itself out of a deeper hole. I think one scenario that can hap...

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by NYCAAer
Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership
Replies: 724
Views: 110404

Re: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership

N649DL wrote:
Uh, sorry to rain on the the parade here, but didn't this happen back in like 2011 with AA & B6 with a Short-Lived "East Coast" Codeshare? Just checking...?


Yes, it was around 2008-2011 or so, until the merger with US killed the deal.

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by NYCAAer
Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership
Replies: 724
Views: 110404

Re: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership

a post-COVID schedule in peak summer month probably looks like this 10x LAX 4x SFO 4x PHX 6x MIA 2x DFW 4x CLT 2x ORD 4x LHR 1x CDG 1x MAD 1x TLV 1x GRU 1x EZE 1x Caribbean leisure 40 to 45 flights sound about right. AA probably had close to 120 slots before this started. Your numbers are leaving o...

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by NYCAAer
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership
Replies: 724
Views: 110404

Re: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership

Correct me if I am wrong, but with these partnerships AA+B6/AS will now be the largest carrier in NYC, BOS, LAX, SEA, South Florida, Dallas, DC, PHX, & CLT? Since they all remain standalone carriers, no. AA isn’t the largest carrier in BOS. I don't know about NYC either...UA and DL may still be...

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by NYCAAer
Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta airlines Q2 2020 earnings thread
Replies: 128
Views: 15278

Re: DAL Q2 2020 earnings thread

As crazy as it sounds I still don’t see 17.5K off the payroll as enough if we’re talking “avoiding furloughs” all-together. Granted, not including pilots, but per the sounds of it on APC, doesn’t seem like more than 1500 or so will take it? Realistically you’re looking at a 20% reduction in force i...

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by NYCAAer
Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta airlines Q2 2020 earnings thread
Replies: 128
Views: 15278

Re: DAL Q2 2020 earnings thread

What I found truly amazing is that 15,000 employees agreed to take an early retirement. The number doesn’t include the pilots, that’s still being determined. At AA in flight service, when early retirement was offered early on during COVID-19, only 875 or so flight attendants took it, despite many m...

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by NYCAAer
Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - Q3 2020
Replies: 213
Views: 11840

Re: Airlines practicing social distancing in their cabins

I flew AA for the first time since COVID-19 this past weekend, on LGA-DFW-LGA. The flight was maybe 25% full on the outbound, and about 35%-40% full on my return flight. Everyone in coach had a row of 3 seats to themselves, unless they were a family traveling together. On my return flight, a man acr...

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by NYCAAer
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta airlines Q2 2020 earnings thread
Replies: 128
Views: 15278

Re: DAL Q2 2020 earnings thread

What I found truly amazing is that 15,000 employees agreed to take an early retirement. The number doesn’t include the pilots, that’s still being determined. At AA in flight service, when early retirement was offered early on during COVID-19, only 875 or so flight attendants took it, despite many mo...

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by NYCAAer
Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The American VS Delta War Timeline
Replies: 23
Views: 5441

Re: The American VS Delta War Timeline

I think we're entering into an era of a more competitive, combative American under the leadership of Raja. Except that American still lags far behind Delta on product. AA can compete all they want with their Spirit and Allegiant product, but Delta wins every time with PTVs and customer-focused serv...

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by NYCAAer
Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did the air France Concorde fly in the original livery?
Replies: 24
Views: 4794

Re: Did the air France Concorde fly in the original livery?

The only changes to the AF Concorde livery over the years was a change in the font of “Air France” on the fuselage, and the Hippocampe was removed from the sides by the nose, replaced with small titles “Groupe Air France.” The SkyTeam logo appeared by the entry door, and it never wore any Air France...

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by NYCAAer
Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 6096

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

That’s correct, AA discontinued EWR-LHR and brought it back. I was sitting standby on reserve in June 1991 in operations at EWR, and a flight attendant on special assignment asked me if I’d like to volunteer to help welcome the LHR passengers at EWR on July 1st, for the inaugural. Being young, naive...

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by NYCAAer
Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 6096

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

This is awesome. Thank you for sharing. JFK-LYS, as I recall was very short lived (less than a year) and I remember an F/A friend telling my family (I was only 16 then so I don't remember all the details) saying it almost never went out full. There is a long history of US-France (non Paris) service...

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by NYCAAer
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2786
Views: 332546

Re: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes

To summarize the long haul routes that were not mentioned in the press release (indicating that they are presumably not being discontinued, and may have already had restart/launch dates announced): LAX-HND (presumably still 2x daily based on route award) LAX-CHC (presumably starting W21) DFW-DUB DF...

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by NYCAAer
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 6096

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

AA started DFW-LGW on a 747-100 in 1982, when it took over the route authority from the demise of Braniff. The equipment changed to a DC-10-30 in 1984 when the 747 classics were traded for DC-10-30s from Pan Am, who in turn inherited them from the National merger. DFW-FRA and DFW-ORY were added in ...

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by NYCAAer
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 6096

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

That's a lot to sum up over the past 35-40 years but from what I recall: AA: IIRC, they were flying TATL out of JFK when Pan Am was still doing so (as mentioned to ORY.) They also were very focused on an Int'l profile at ORD in the early 1990s (remember the flags hung throughout the terminal in Hom...

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by NYCAAer
Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 6096

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

Yes, if you go back far enough, AA was the first to return to Europe after World War II, in October 1945, with a DC-4. The first route was from La Guardia to London via Gander and Shannon, I believe. My parents were friends with an older couple who met during WWII. He was an American G.I. stationed ...

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by NYCAAer
Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 6096

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

Going back to the US5, the first TATL service on US was CLT-LGW which was inherited from Piedmont. This was followed by PIT-FRA in 1990, which was closely followed by PHL-MAN/CDG in 1991, and CLT-FRA in 1992. PHL started service initially to ORY. We were flying to ORY at AA and we all said, “Oh my ...

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by NYCAAer
Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 6096

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

Going back to the US5, the first TATL service on US was CLT-LGW which was inherited from Piedmont. This was followed by PIT-FRA in 1990, which was closely followed by PHL-MAN/CDG in 1991, and CLT-FRA in 1992. PHL started service initially to ORY. We were flying to ORY at AA and we all said, “Oh my ...

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by NYCAAer
Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 6096

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

After I wrote my post, I remembered a few more things. DFW-MAD was flown with the 762, and the DFW-ORY and DFW-FRA flights switched to the 763 as more were delivered. The 763 was then used on ORD-ORY, making ORY an all-763 station. Eventually DFW-MAD became the 763, and there were a few unsuccessful...

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by NYCAAer
Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 6096

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

AA started DFW-LGW on a 747-100 in 1982, when it took over the route authority from the demise of Braniff. The equipment changed to a DC-10-30 in 1984 when the 747 classics were traded for DC-10-30s from Pan Am, who in turn inherited them from the National merger. DFW-FRA and DFW-ORY were added in 1...

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by NYCAAer
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2786
Views: 332546

Re: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes

USAirALB wrote:
I would expect routes such as CLT-CDG/FCO, MIA-MXP to come back fairly quickly once international travel largely resumes. I also wouldn't be surprised to see LAX-GRU resume as well, given that it is a relatively large local market.


From what I’ve heard, GRU was bleeding cash out of LAX.

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by NYCAAer
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2786
Views: 332546

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

I imagine in the very, very long term, 2022-23 frame, some of this stuff will come back when demand recovers. Charlotte-Paris and Miami-Milan for example are no brainers to return down the line when leisure demand recovers. I bet those are the first two to come back. There is also some strategy to ...

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by NYCAAer
Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2786
Views: 332546

Re: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes

CLT-FCO and PHL-BUD are the two main cuts that don't make sense to me, but other than that I get it. Seasonal summer flying with little premium demand on both routes. Agreed but CLT-FCO fills the demand in the summer without any issues and makes money. It isn't as if they are selling all the seats ...

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