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by slcguy
Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:17 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: L1011-250 Payload Range
Replies: 15
Views: 3510

Re: L1011-250 Payload Range

The -250 modification was the ultimate variant of the full size L-1011 (non -500). Was this modification developed by Lockheed or outside aircraft modification company for Delta Air Lines or a combination? Either way only 8 were produced, with the last six -1s ordered by Delta being modified as -250...

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by slcguy
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:38 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Boeing 737-800NG Flaptrack circle
Replies: 12
Views: 1356

Re: Boeing 737-800NG Flaptrack circle

Do access panels for maintenance or inspection really require a thread? All aircraft from basic GA up to top of the line commercial/military have them in one form or another. The location, size and shape are determined by function. In this case would you really want to remove the whole flap fairing ...

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by slcguy
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:11 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 40 years of Airplane (Surely you can't be serious?!)
Replies: 32
Views: 1794

Re: 40 years of Airplane (Surely you can't be serious?!)

Leslie Neilson and Robert Graves (sadly both passed on to that great jump seat in the sky) Actually the actor's name was Peter Graves not Robert. Showing my age here, I remember him in Mission Impossible when I was a kid. Also for trivia nuts, Peter Graves was the younger bother of James Arness, AK...

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by slcguy
Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air Cargo B747-LCF
Replies: 18
Views: 3469

Re: Atlas Air Cargo B747-LCF

They are crewed by 747 crews. Yes, obviously they are 747 crews, but the original post does make a good point. This is a highly modified aircraft that seems would require some additional training or familiarization. Doubt a regular 747 line pilot could just bid a Dreamlifter flight. Whether it is d...

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by slcguy
Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1195
Views: 260901

Re: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly

Just a note to moderaters, maybe a lot of these 6-8 month old threads should be closed. Covid -19 changed everything! All the new routes, aircraft upgrades or retirements, new orders and new service threads that started early this year are meaningless now! We'll be lucky to see an airline industry s...

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by slcguy
Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Strange Delta 757 flights today out of Orlando KMCO
Replies: 21
Views: 8372

Re: Strange Delta 757 flights today out of Orlando KMCO

Who actually owns these old Delta birds? Delta, a private Trust/Leasing company or the NBA? Guess it doesn't matter much, they are still operated and maintained by Delta in Delta colors, guess that still makes them Delta. I know it's just a business relationship but was curious. I was doing it from...

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by slcguy
Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Strange Delta 757 flights today out of Orlando KMCO
Replies: 21
Views: 8372

Re: Strange Delta 757 flights today out of Orlando KMCO

Well... The Kings (SAC), Wizards (IAD), Pelicans (MSY), Spurs (SAT) left Coronado Springs (a great resort; we stayed there last year) this evening. The standings aren't totally-clear to me, but I think the Suns (PHX) are done, despite winning all 8 games they played. They beat the Mavs (DFW) tonigh...

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by slcguy
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Weird Flight Plan? FDX 1311
Replies: 11
Views: 5634

Re: Weird Flight Plan? FDX 1311

Interesting discussion...is there an "assigned" crew that handles these type of flights or are they just randomly assigned to them? The flights are probably bid by pilot senority like any other, the pilots that want them get them. Sounds like a more fun day (or night in this case) than ju...

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by slcguy
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Weird Flight Plan? FDX 1311
Replies: 11
Views: 5634

Re: Weird Flight Plan? FDX 1311

Flight 1311 has been known to divert as far west as SLC once in awhile! Usually operated by a 757 or maybe A306, now they may have 763 in the mix too on the sweep flights. Never seen DC/MD10 ,MD11 or 777 used on sweeps, probably too much airplane(expensive) to fly on long roundabout routes not knowi...

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by slcguy
Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:16 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Old Control Tower Equipment
Replies: 3
Views: 1356

Re: Old Control Tower Equipment

The two towers you are referring to at SLC are the old ATC tower on top of Terminal 1, it was decommissioned as an ATC tower in the late 1990s when the current ATC tower opened. All FAA equipment was removed at that time and it was remodeled into offices for the Dept. of Airports. The cab on top has...

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by slcguy
Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:40 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Do Military Aircraft make refueling stops while enroute or are they just refueled while flying?
Replies: 21
Views: 1627

Re: Do Military Aircraft make refueling stops while enroute or are they just refueled while flying?

The answer is both depending on location and mission need. The larger long range aircraft probably just stop for fuel. Fighter types on a long range flight are more likely to need air refueling.

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by slcguy
Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:44 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: F-16 crash at Holloman AFB 7/13/20
Replies: 0
Views: 469

F-16 crash at Holloman AFB 7/13/20

Sorry if this has already been posted. A US Air Force F-16C crashed while landing at Holloman AFB, NM Monday evening. The pilot successfully ejected and only suffered minor injuries. The aircraft was destroyed upon impact. The 54th fighter group has temporarily suspended flight operations while revi...

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by slcguy
Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20
Replies: 9
Views: 1282

Re: Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20

SLC has now seen most all of the largest aircraft, all B-747-100 thru -8i including the Dreamlifter, A-380. C-5 and AN-124. The only one left is the AN-225. Guess it's only a matter of time before it shows up here too.

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by slcguy
Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20
Replies: 9
Views: 1282

Re: Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20

I didn't go out to the airport to see it, but it just past my house on downwind, yes it is the Dreamlifter, impressive site, what a beauty!

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by slcguy
Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20
Replies: 9
Views: 1282

Re: Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20

Ok, now the second hour of morning news, they are saying Dreamliner instead of Dreamlifter which would mean a 787. That makes more sense, if it turns out to be a 787 it will be a minor event. Will have to wait and see what shows up. Haven't we learned yet to not listen to the news regarding aviatio...

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by slcguy
Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20
Replies: 9
Views: 1282

Re: Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20

Thank you Red, looks like initial reports of a Dreamlifter were correct, think I may make a drive out to the airport to see this.

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by slcguy
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20
Replies: 9
Views: 1282

Re: Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20

Ok, now the second hour of morning news, they are saying Dreamliner instead of Dreamlifter which would mean a 787. That makes more sense, if it turns out to be a 787 it will be a minor event. Will have to wait and see what shows up.

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by slcguy
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20
Replies: 9
Views: 1282

Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20

I was shocked when I heard this on the local TV morning news! A Boeing 747 Dreamlifter is expected to arrive SLC today. Why? Carrying 787 parts, nope. Load will be 500,000 units or pounds of face masks! Didn't think the Dreamlifter was intended to be used for anything other than transport of 787 str...

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by slcguy
Tue May 26, 2020 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC Terminal Construction Updates
Replies: 210
Views: 52989

Re: SLC Terminal Construction Updates

Where will the light rail train station be at the new terminal, or will it still be where it is and people need to walk over to the new terminal? Eventually the light rail will extend to the new terminal but not initially. The extention of the rail line can't be completed until the existing roadway...

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by slcguy
Sat May 16, 2020 2:21 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Lockheed, uniquely talented company
Replies: 40
Views: 3109

Re: Lockheed, uniquely talented company

Lockheed's historic aircraft portfolio is an three-waymix of civilian ( trend-setting, well-designed but usually over-complicated ); Skunk Works ( revolutionary ) and run-of-the-mill military ( F-80, C-5 / 141, S-3 ). I'd even lump the C-130 into the latter category; it's barely competent for most ...

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by slcguy
Fri May 08, 2020 7:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Person killed by plane on runway at Austin
Replies: 97
Views: 25412

Re: Person killed by plane on runway at Austin

Tragic event, will be interesting to find out how that person got onto the movement area. Barring a split second or two of seeing the aircraft coming and not being able to do anything death would have been instantaneous. What struck me is that there were 54 people on the aircraft in the current situ...

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by slcguy
Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:50 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: CRJ200 or CRJ700
Replies: 2
Views: 545

Re: CRJ200 or CRJ700

Not knowing exactly what you're looking for I can't give you a definitive answer. Here is just my opinion based on observations. Personal use/Business: Unless you need an aircraft that size, you might consider the shorter Challenger 600 series business jet. It is the aircraft the CRJs were developed...

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by slcguy
Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:49 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 757-200 range
Replies: 15
Views: 2864

Re: 757-200 range

Actually I believe the PW 2000 series has a little better fuel specifics than the RR aircraft BUT....that is offset be some other maintenance/reliabilty issues. Both are good engines. A far as Trump buying a RR product, I suspect that is more of his ego than anything else. :checkmark: Confirmed. He...

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by slcguy
Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian A350 in SLC
Replies: 31
Views: 8946

Re: Ethiopian A350 in SLC

There’s a Latam 763 inbound from LIM (LP2548) scheduled to arrive 1811 today Thanks for info, I see that now on flightaware. Still makes me nervous, all these full widebody flights coming from around the world headed to here. Love having these airlines/airplanes coming in but what are they bringing...

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by slcguy
Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian A350 in SLC
Replies: 31
Views: 8946

Re: Ethiopian A350 in SLC

My understanding is that the missionaries are all being told to self-isolate for 14 days on arrival, regardless of symptoms or exposures. I worry more about the arrivals from Asia than those from the southern hemisphere right now. In addition to the flights you mentioned, I believe there has also b...

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by slcguy
Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian A350 in SLC
Replies: 31
Views: 8946

Re: Ethiopian A350 in SLC

DL 8874 B77L SYD-SLC passing Hawaii now, expected 1440L at SLC. I understand the Mormon church wanting to bring the missionaries home. But afraid Salt Lake could become a Covid hot spot. In addition the last 2 weeks have had 5 flights from NRT, 4 from SCL, 2 from Guatamala and one from MSP (up gauge...

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by slcguy
Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Surprising history of hijackings to Cuba: Facts, Figures, & Questions
Replies: 44
Views: 4855

Re: Surprising history of hijackings to Cuba: Facts, Figures, & Questions

I created this post about a week ago about the 3/17/1970 Hijacking of EA 1320. The co-pilot was shot and killed, the pilot was also shot and badly wounded but survived. This hijacking led to USA law and rules in the first steps of security for those boarding flights in the USA to reduce hijackings....

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by slcguy
Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Surprising history of hijackings to Cuba: Facts, Figures, & Questions
Replies: 44
Views: 4855

Re: Surprising history of hijackings to Cuba: Facts, Figures, & Questions

Yes I remember those days growing up when hijackings to Cuba were almost a daily occurence on the nightly news. This is what led to security screening at US airports in the early 1970's. This early screening resulted in a dramatic drop in hijackings to just a few for nearly 30 years. Then 9/11 happe...

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by slcguy
Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CRJ Jet Blast rips hangar out of the ground like a leaf
Replies: 26
Views: 6848

Re: CRJ Jet Blast rips hangar out of the ground like a leaf

What is amazing is that aircraft that was inside the hangar stayed put........ Hangar it was in blew away but the plane inside stayed in place, probably with some damage though. Say what?? Check facts first!! https://www.ksby.com/news/local-news/jet-blast-damages-airplane-structures-at-san-luis-obi...

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by slcguy
Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CRJ Jet Blast rips hangar out of the ground like a leaf
Replies: 26
Views: 6848

Re: CRJ Jet Blast rips hangar out of the ground like a leaf

Wow, the Cessnas off to the side of blast were rocking but the hangar took the direct hit. What is amazing is that aircraft that was inside the hangar stayed put. Can't tell what type. It appears to be a tail dragger, Possible warbird, aerobatic or old GA type. Hangar it was in blew away but the pla...

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by slcguy
Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL 8955, military charter or medical relief flight?
Replies: 15
Views: 2500

Re: DL 8955, military charter or medical relief flight?

Note that the two flights aren’t necessarily related. This looks to me like separate ELP-ADW and ADW-POB missions and their associated positioning flights that happen to use the same flight number. Don't forget the POB-ELP-ATL leg. You don't reposition POB to ATL via ELP lol. I had the right idea b...

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by slcguy
Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL 8955, military charter or medical relief flight?
Replies: 15
Views: 2500

Re: DL 8955, military charter or medical relief flight?

Note that the two flights aren’t necessarily related. This looks to me like separate ELP-ADW and ADW-POB missions and their associated positioning flights that happen to use the same flight number. Don't forget the POB-ELP-ATL leg. You don't reposition POB to ATL via ELP lol. This is all one flight...

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by slcguy
Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL 8955, military charter or medical relief flight?
Replies: 15
Views: 2500

Re: DL 8955, military charter or medical relief flight?

Don't know why ELP, but that's the way it is scheduled.

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by slcguy
Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL 8955, military charter or medical relief flight?
Replies: 15
Views: 2500

DL 8955, military charter or medical relief flight?

Today 3/28/20 DL 8965 (B763) departed SLC at 1422 UTC scheduled route SLC-ELP, ELP-ADW, ADW -ATL. Changing to a B752 and continuing on ATL-POB, POB-ELP, ELP-ATL arriving ATL tomorrow afternoon 3/29/20. Guessing they are military charters based on the ELP, ADW, POB stops and are flying medical person...

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by slcguy
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread
Replies: 52
Views: 8563

Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

Another unusual flight for SLC this evening, 3/24/20.. Probably bringing Mormon missionaries home. Ethiopian ETH 8705, B788 flew in from JNB with two enroute fuel stops. JNB-LFW flying time 5:29. LFW-IAD time 11:11, IAD-SLC time 4:23. Arrived SLC at 9:34pm local. With over 4 hours ground time at LFW...

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by slcguy
Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC
Replies: 41
Views: 7712

Re: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC

It was jarring at first, and resumed after 1300 GMT commercially. GA and cargo were cleared prior. My concern is the FAA tower closed so they relocated ATC to split between en route and terminal. Terminal control is using the old ATC tower Delta has used as their ops/coordination center. The remain...

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by slcguy
Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airplane in grass at IAH? North side of airport...
Replies: 11
Views: 3791

Re: Airplane in grass at IAH? North side of airport...

Interesting subject, didn't know that plane was there. Mods might want to change the thread title though. Makes it sound like a plane ran off the in to the grass tonight. Pulled up the thread to see what was going lol.

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by slcguy
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:49 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Civilian aviation to military?
Replies: 23
Views: 2299

Re: Civilian aviation to military?

Aren't/weren't there CRM issues with military pilots? Isn't that what's wrong with airlines like Korean Air where the FO would allow the captain to crash the plane instead of speaking up? CRM is not an issue with ex-military pilots. It is emphasized in training and even single seat fighter guys ada...

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by slcguy
Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Concorde at Memphis - 1979
Replies: 35
Views: 4521

Re: Concorde at Memphis - 1979

The Concorde also visited SLC in 1979 as part of the Braniff promotional tour. Braniff had just started their 727 service SLC-DEN-DFW at the time which only lasted a couple of years before they went under..

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by slcguy
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777-9 first flight 25 January 2020
Replies: 970
Views: 80852

Re: Boeing 777-9 first flight 25 January 2020

Noshow wrote:
You mean they did or they did not?


They do retract the gear but later in the flight not right after the takeoff.

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by slcguy
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777-9 first flight 25 January 2020
Replies: 970
Views: 80852

Re: Boeing 777-9 first flight 25 January 2020

Slash787 wrote:
Noshow wrote:
Did they retract the gear during the first flight?


No


Actually they do but not until later in the flight. They first do some basic tests/evaluation on flight handling before changing the aircraft configuration (gear, flap setting etc.)

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by slcguy
Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:25 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: tail cones on MD-80s
Replies: 21
Views: 5637

Re: tail cones on MD-80s

I believe the change occurred in January of 1988. The screwdriver tailcone was on the first MD-88 (N909DL) when it was delivered in Dec. 1987. IIRC, all of Delta's MD-82s (901-908) delivered in 1987 had the old tailcone. Were those MD-82s later upgraded to MD-88 standard? As much of a US airline fl...

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by slcguy
Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta 1114 off taxiway at MCI
Replies: 9
Views: 3130

Re: Delta 1114 off taxiway at MCI

Blockplus wrote:
Sounds like braking action nil on taxiways. Doubt there is much damage if any. More of a fluff piece.


What!!!!! You don't think this plane is a write off?

Sorry a.netters, just had to do that LOL.

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by slcguy
Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Delays Dallas Cowboys
Replies: 69
Views: 15410

Re: AA Strands Dallas Cowboys

The Saints on United often use a 753 for short and medium trips, the 764 for longer or if available. Availability is the key now, just not many 763s around like there used to be. Back when Delta ruled the NFL charter market nearly every single team used a 763, just cant spare them like they used to...

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by slcguy
Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Do airlines reuse flight number of their terminated destination?
Replies: 42
Views: 5832

Re: Do airlines reuse flight number of their terminated destination?

On a side note, airlines seem to ban flight numbers that have encountered a catastrophic accident. E. G. AF447. How many airlines refuse to use flight 191 ? (regardless of if they had a crash of flight 191 I mean). Only two I'm aware of are American and Delta, both of which had major crashes with t...

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by slcguy
Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:32 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Boeing 767 freighter
Replies: 3
Views: 1669

Re: Boeing 767 freighter

On a related subject. This Boeing 767-232(BDSF) is the oldest 767 still flying! It's 767 Line No: 6, first flight 2/19/82, used by Boeing as a demonstrator aircraft for a year then delivered to Delta in March 1983 where it flew for 23 years. Converted to freighter in 2006 and still flying for ABX. I...

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by slcguy
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight
Replies: 36
Views: 10196

Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Ok, seems like people are blowing this thing out of proportion (no pun intended). An external slide that was not inflated fell off the aircraft because the cover hatch failed. While the problem needs to be addressed if as said it has happened before, it's not the worlds most major problem, unless yo...

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by slcguy
Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: DC10 varients
Replies: 32
Views: 2401

Re: DC10 varients

bennett123 wrote:
So having the central undercarriage proves it is a series 30, but lack does not prove it is a series 10.


Bottom line is yes. The difference in wingspan might be the best way to tell. Assuming you can tell 155' and 165' just by looking.

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by slcguy
Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: DC10 varients
Replies: 32
Views: 2401

Re: DC10 varients

Thank you Sheik, didn't know the use of the third gear on the -30 was optional depending on weight. At first seeing that pic I thought it was a DC-10-10 which never had the third gear. But yes that pic is a DC-10-30 without the third gear extended. Makes sense that the third gear might not be needed...

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by slcguy
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: DC10 varients
Replies: 32
Views: 2401

Re: DC10 varients

Yes the DC-10-30 and -40s had the third undercarriage under the fuselage like the MD-11 did later. They also had a 10 foot longer wing as compared to the DC-10-10, 165' vs 155'. The primary difference between the -30 and -40 are engines with the 30 having GE and 40 having PW. These are the most obvi...

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