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by slcguy
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SAS 737-600 Retirement
Replies: 61
Views: 8993

Re: SAS 737-600 Retirement

I would guess the Janet (EG&G) 736s will be around for a long time and be the last ones flying. They don't get many hours on them due to short flights. They do get a fair amount of cycles but less than most airline aircraft. Because of the short flights they usually only go up to medium altitude...

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by slcguy
Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:04 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: The Tristar automated descent control system
Replies: 41
Views: 3326

Re: The Tristar automated descent control system

Think there is a lot of confusion here based on the original post's terminology. Yes the L-1011 had the most advanced autopilot/autothrottle and autoland system of it's time but not much different and led to what is found today on most modern planes. The DLC (direct lift control) using the spoilers ...

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by slcguy
Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta 757 hard landing this morning at Azores PDL
Replies: 178
Views: 55401

Re: Delta 757 hard landing this morning at Azores PDL

Sorry if I missed this, but I’ve only read “hard landing” and “rough landing.” Can someone describe the type of landing that would cause this type of damage? For example, nose gear first or main and nose gear at the same time. This looks like something that has happened several times in the past. M...

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by slcguy
Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:00 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Stapleton Airport question - how bad was it, really?
Replies: 28
Views: 5391

Re: Stapleton Airport question - how bad was it, really?

Seeing a common theme here. Stapleton wasn't a bad airport, it served the Denver area well for 60+ years. The city of Denver and associated Colorado front range simply expanded beyond it's capacity as well as being a hub for more than one airline exceded it's limits. Best we remember it for its part...

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by slcguy
Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:40 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Stapleton Airport question - how bad was it, really?
Replies: 28
Views: 5391

Re: Stapleton Airport question - how bad was it, really?

Having flown though Stapleton as a kid in the 1960s and as an adult in the 70s and 80s, I don't remember it as being as bad as people make it out to be. The terminals were in decent shape although crowded without enough gates. Frontier and Continental resorted to remote parking some aircraft using t...

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by slcguy
Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:14 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Airliners with air stairs
Replies: 44
Views: 4295

Re: Airliners with air stairs

Before D B Cooper 727s had tail stairs. After that they were rarely used. Once at RNO the jet bridge froze solid on a very cold night and that was the only way to board. Actually, they were used all the time, at Continental our policy was the aft stairs be down and locked at the gate, always, main ...

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by slcguy
Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago spent billions and possible broken promises on O'Hare Airport's expansion plan?
Replies: 22
Views: 5283

Re: Chicago spent billions and possible broken promises on O'Hare Airport's expansion plan?

Don't won't to sound rude but as soon I saw Chicago, knew where this was going. As a contrast there is the new terminal complex being built in SLC, a large sum of the cost is from money the SLC Dept. of Airports has accrued over the years, federal grants that airports can receive for improvements, b...

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by slcguy
Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:18 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Captains admonishing FO's for using speed brake on descent
Replies: 52
Views: 8957

Re: Captains admonishing FO's for using speed brake on descent

In a perfect world, you should be able to go to flight idle and start your descent and not need spoilers or add additional power until on final with gear and flaps down if you do it right. Unfortunately it is not a perfect world. You have weather concerns, ATC vectors, speed and altitude restriction...

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by slcguy
Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:55 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How much are these commercial landing fees?
Replies: 5
Views: 1482

Re: How much are these commercial landing fees?

https://slcairport.com/assets/pdfDocume ... -Final.pdf
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SLC publishes all their fees. Here is the complete list for FY2020. Luckily to answer your question, landing fees are the first on the list.

https://slcairport.com/assets/pdfDocume ... -Final.pdf

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by slcguy
Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A220 route additions
Replies: 344
Views: 22414

Re: SFO, ATL, SJC, MSY, SNA, FAI, LAS to gain A220 service by year-end 2019

Those flights were operated by the domestic 763. One of the flights was ATL-SLC-HNL. I think SLC-HNL is a 752 now. Correct me if I'm wrong. Interesting. I didn't know the 757 could do it. Especially in the summer with the heat and altitude of SLC. I thought they would just run it with a 763ER. Big ...

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by slcguy
Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:42 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Glider Ballast
Replies: 15
Views: 2721

Re: Glider Ballast

Guess if you are non smoker and somebody is near the end of the runway while you are on short final is smoking, if you time it right and your aim is good you might put out the cigarette. LOL Even then 320lbs (40gal) of water dumped over 2-3 seconds from an aircraft at 55 knots will result in a fine ...

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by slcguy
Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why did DL remove Winglets on some of their 757 fleet?
Replies: 17
Views: 4845

Re: Why did DL remove Winglets on some of their 757 fleet?

Yes, I'm aware of that. The question I responded to asked if the winglets were actually removed or if it was a plane that never had them installed in the first place. As you can see in the pictures I posted, N650DL started out without winglets, had them installed, and then removed. Isn't that what ...

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by slcguy
Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United A319 emergency landing at EWR (June 30)
Replies: 34
Views: 10357

Re: Newark ground stop, what is going on?

Wow I bet that was quite a show as it was going down the runway with a lot of smoke and sparks! Wonder if any video will turn up. I would imagine there is also some wing flap damage from tire debris.

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by slcguy
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How often does an engine come off?
Replies: 19
Views: 3383

Re: How often does an engine come off?

As stated in most cases it is on-condition or damage (FOD / bird strike etc). In some cases it may be also be accessary equipment (hydraulic/ electrical/ pneumatic). If the problem may take time to repair (difficulty in troubleshooting the problem or parts availability etc) they may swap out the eng...

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by slcguy
Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: DC-7 vs Starliner
Replies: 1
Views: 415

Re: DC-7 vs Starliner

To be more specific it should be the DC-7C and the L-1649 Starliner. The DC-7A/B were more in the L-1049 class and the DC-6s were in the L-749 class. Don't have the answer to your question but the DC-7C and the L-1649 Starliner as well as the B-377 Stratocruiser were the epitome of the classic pisto...

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by slcguy
Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:12 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Lower cabin altitude A350/787- does the crew notice?
Replies: 13
Views: 4070

Re: Lower cabin altitude A350/787- does the crew notice?

Probably not in real time. They won't takeoff and get up to cruise altitude and say "this is so much nicer" except maybe for noise levels, cabin altitude and humidity won't be noticed. Where they would probably notice is after a long day of multiple legs or after a long haul flight and get...

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by slcguy
Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:02 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A320neo Hydraulics System
Replies: 3
Views: 1677

Re: A320neo Hydraulics System

Does it still bark? LOL

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by slcguy
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why did DL remove Winglets on some of their 757 fleet?
Replies: 17
Views: 4845

Re: Why did DL remove Winglets on some of their 757 fleet?

Looks like they were removed. See N650DL below, from left to right, in 2006, 2013, and 2017. 1018046,2468125,5376457 No 757s were produced by Boeing with winglets. Yes, I'm aware of that. The question I responded to asked if the winglets were actually removed or if it was a plane that never had the...

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by slcguy
Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:47 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why did DL remove Winglets on some of their 757 fleet?
Replies: 17
Views: 4845

Re: Why did DL remove Winglets on some of their 757 fleet?

So its actually removed or just not installed? Looks like they were removed. See N650DL below, from left to right, in 2006, 2013, and 2017. 1018046,2468125,5376457 No 757s were produced by Boeing with winglets. N650DL was delivered to Delta without them, went on to become a Song Aircraft also witho...

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by slcguy
Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Buzzsaw sound on takeoff
Replies: 56
Views: 10265

Re: Buzzsaw sound on takeoff

On some engines there is growling sound before the fans have even spooled up as well as at full power when it is growl and buzz. Anybody that ever flew on an L-1011 knows that sound. The buzz only happened at takeoff but the growl happened anytime during flight when power was increased. Those early ...

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by slcguy
Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: King Air crash in Hawaii, with multiple fatalities
Replies: 18
Views: 5924

Re: King Air crash in Hawaii, with multiple fatalities

Latest update, now 11 fatalities. Don't know the specifics on this aircraft but if it was used for skydiving you can count on it being an older King Air (like 40+). Newer King Airs are too much in demand for private corporate flying. Plus skydiving aircraft are used hard and put away wet, worked ver...

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by slcguy
Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: King Air crash in Hawaii, with multiple fatalities
Replies: 18
Views: 5924

King Air crash in Hawaii, with multiple fatalities

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/6- ... y_20190622
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A King Air crashed on the island of Oahu this evening. Details still coming in. First reports said 6 dead, now been updated to 9. RIP

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/6- ... y_20190622

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by slcguy
Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:09 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why is the A330 still in production but the 767 isn't (for pax)?
Replies: 32
Views: 2651

Re: Why is the A330 still in production but the 767 isn't (for pax)?

Am I the only one that idiot gets on their nerves?

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by slcguy
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:34 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can the A340-500 do the longest posible flights?
Replies: 31
Views: 5325

Re: Can the A340-500 do the longest posible flights?

I'm guessing a B777-200LR would be in the running. Already a long haul plane, A privately owned one would be carrying less payload than an airline version leaving a lot of weight carrying ability for fuel. With the large cargo area capacity could install a number of aux tanks.

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by slcguy
Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:17 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Is the P-8A Poseidon the only one 737 model with raked wingtips?
Replies: 5
Views: 1436

Re: Is the P-8A Poseidon the only one 737 model with raked wingtips?

Yes, airport design group III <118' wingspan as well as gate space issues are the reason. The same applies to the A320 series, it's no coincidence that 320 and 321s with sharklets also come in just under 118'. The same applied to the larger 767 a design group IV aircraft, when blended winglets were ...

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by slcguy
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:21 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What airlines have had their aircraft sunk?
Replies: 20
Views: 3202

Re: What airlines have had their aircraft sunk?

While not planned, two of the Boeing 314 flying boats, one Pan Am and one American International were sunk intentionally in 1945 and 1946,. Both made emergency landings in the open ocean and were deemed to not be repairable on site and not feasible to be towed to a port (although they tried to tow t...

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by slcguy
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 757-200 hard landing at EWR
Replies: 166
Views: 40351

Re: United 757-200 hard landing at EWR

What is it with the 757 haters on this site? Yes the 757 can be bent if nose is lowered too rapidly, more common on the 767. Not appearent in this case. In this case a bad landing causing blown main gear tires and a bounce that the pilots didn't/couldn't control resulted in a nose wheel first touchd...

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by slcguy
Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta SLC-DTW lands due to fire scare
Replies: 3
Views: 906

Re: Delta SLC-DTW lands due to fire scare

Guess it made for a good spotter night at Cheyenne. A321 and B752 are not normal visitors much less having both there at the same time.

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by slcguy
Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:45 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Landing fees in special cases
Replies: 13
Views: 2048

Re: Landing fees in special cases

Dear a.netters, I would like to ask a few questions about landing fees in special/abnormal scenarios. In normal operations, things are quite clear to me: When you land an airoplane at the destination airport, you'vo got to pay the landing fee. Now, what happens in a few special / abnormal operation...

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by slcguy
Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:44 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: All white liveried B757.
Replies: 9
Views: 1904

Re: All white liveried B757.

White, military reg, US Air force titles on the side? We've had 99-6143 here a few weeks ago, was quite surprised to see a 757 next to all the tiny private jets. 99-6143 is one of the C-32Bs. Their missions are as mysterious as the Comco aircraft. It is possible that these are the same aircraft, pr...

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by slcguy
Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:06 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: All white liveried B757.
Replies: 9
Views: 1904

Re: All white liveried B757.

Could be the Comco aircraft. Mysterious aircraft associated with the government. Also there are the little known all white C-32B operated by the Air Force, not to be confused with the blue and white C-32A VIP planes.

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by slcguy
Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How much smaller is the B777-300ER/B777-9 compare to the B747-400?
Replies: 23
Views: 3820

Re: How much smaller is the B777-300ER/B777-9 compare to the B747-400?

The 744 has a little bit of an advantage on pax count due to seating in the upper deck which the 77W obviously doesn't have. Without the upper deck the seating difference isn't much. As stated before the 777 has the advantage on cargo space.

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by slcguy
Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:19 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Aircraft tilting back on ground due to weight imbalance
Replies: 25
Views: 3890

Re: Aircraft tilting back on ground due to weight imbalance

The B-727-200 (passenger or freighter) could easily tip back during loading/unloading if the tail stairs are not lowered first. Seen a couple over the years when ground crews got complacent and didn't lower the stairs. If aircraft is to be parked for awhile with stairs up, they may add some addition...

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by slcguy
Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: US Airports with US military bases
Replies: 25
Views: 1962

Re: US Airports with US military bases

SLC also has an ANG base, KC-135s. 151st ARW.

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by slcguy
Sat May 25, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Citation Crash off of Florida Coast
Replies: 11
Views: 3965

Re: Citation Crash off of Florida Coast

I'm guessing pilot incapacitation from pressurization problem from what's been reported, It was at FL 390, which is high enough to not give much time to react to a problem that isn't obvious (like rapid depressurization). Second possibility is medical problem with pilot, heart attack etc. Third poss...

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by slcguy
Tue May 21, 2019 6:31 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airline types developed specifically for one carrier
Replies: 71
Views: 7842

Re: Airline types developed specifically for one carrier

The Lockheed Constellation for TWA. Howard Hughes who ran TWA at the time dictated a lot of the specs the plane had to meet.

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by slcguy
Mon May 20, 2019 6:14 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Hand flying commercial jets - routes
Replies: 38
Views: 5030

Re: Hand flying commercial jets - routes

You’d really cancel for a deferred autopilot? How hard is it to hand fly? Like I said, I’ve done two Atlantic crossings in C-5 and six on non-autopilot-equipped fighters. Do a 7.8 with 7 refuelings or a 10.2 with three ARs. Actually, RVSM made it easier to hand fly—you had to stay below F285 and mu...

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by slcguy
Mon May 20, 2019 5:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airport PAST: Dallas Love Field - Southwest 727 Braniff 747 Delta 747 plus
Replies: 61
Views: 8287

Re: Airport PAST: Dallas Love Field - Southwest 727 Braniff 747 Delta 747 plus

Thanks for posting. First 747s I ever saw in person were at Love Field in August 1971. American and Delta. Even at 15, I was an AV-geek. I was impressed to say the least!

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by slcguy
Sat May 18, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Perfomance difference between King Air 350 and B1900D
Replies: 12
Views: 3874

Re: Perfomance difference between King Air 350 and B1900D

B1900D uses PT6A-67D, rated 1200SHP. 350 uses PT6A-60A, rated 1050SHP. 1900D is a bit heavier, but it's negligible (10%, is less than power difference). Initial climb rate is pretty much similar as well. It's the cruise altitude that makes difference - assuming both cruise at approx 190KIAS, 1900D ...

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by slcguy
Tue May 14, 2019 5:23 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Thinking about getting a license. But is it right for me?
Replies: 13
Views: 2189

Re: Thinking about getting a license. But is it right for me?

As others have posted, if you are the pilot, turbulence and motion sickness don't affect you near as much as if you were just a passenger. Also, in bad turbulence don't chase everything the plane does, just maintain basic heading and altitude with a fairly level wings. If you hit a bump and you lose...

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by slcguy
Tue May 14, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Barking noise A320
Replies: 6
Views: 2226

Re: Barking noise A320

Yes the barking noise is from the hydraulic PTU, most likely heard when sitting above the wing. Can't be sure on this, but what I remember from previous threads on this subject I think newer aircraft have a redesigned system where the barking noise is not made or at least not as noticeable. Either w...

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by slcguy
Mon May 13, 2019 6:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fascinating documentary on ATL
Replies: 7
Views: 2808

Re: Fascinating documentary on ATL

Thanks for posting this. A good overview of some of what it takes to run an airport the size of ATL as well as airline ops for a carrier the size of Delta.

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by slcguy
Wed May 08, 2019 2:16 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Your first flight on jet airliners
Replies: 22
Views: 1247

Re: Your first flight on jet airliners

addendum: A300 Continental Airlines DEN (Stapleton)-LAX (ca. 1990s) ...Sadly. I may never get to fly on a 747 now...Yes I'm an old guy as you can tell LOL. CV240:: Unknown airline. (ca. 1950s) DC6: Continental ABQ-DAL (1957) Viscount 800: Continental ABQ-DAL (1961) DC7: Delta DAL-MSY (1961) And I t...

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by slcguy
Wed May 08, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Your first flight on jet airliners
Replies: 22
Views: 1247

Re: Your first flight on jet airliners

Even though I've made countless flights over the years, they have been mainly been short haul domestic US flights. As a result, there is a lack of larger wide body long range aircraft. Sadly. I may never get to fly on a 747 now. While the jet aircraft list may not be that great, I have flown on a lo...

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by slcguy
Mon May 06, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 818
Views: 142785

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

flaps were extended Yes, flaps were extended. Not going to go back pages in this thread to find links, but the video from inside shows the leading edge extended and the exterior video of the evacuation on the right side shows the right wing with flaps down. Either way, the cause of this started bef...

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by slcguy
Mon May 06, 2019 12:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 818
Views: 142785

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

Rokkarolla wrote:
https://youtu.be/RMwJkZ7QLY4

Anyone already posted this landing footage?


First time I've seen it, looks like they had marginal control of the plane on touch down, just went from bad to worse from there. Definitely higher than normal landing speed.

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by slcguy
Mon May 06, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 818
Views: 142785

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

Isnt the main issue the spectacular heavy landing and bounce? If the plane was 'flyable' to get back to airport (and no fire during approach) then a reasonable landing should have followed. Gear through wing tanks. Dont think any MLG is designed to cope with that. Flight Data will be very interesti...

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by slcguy
Mon May 06, 2019 11:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 818
Views: 142785

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

Don't mean this to sound like the accurate series of events as all is speculation at this point, just my perspective, Based on what's been reported. 1: Aircraft experienced some sort of electrical problem possibly lightning induced or internal. Unknown at this point. 2: Report of flying under "...

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by slcguy
Sat May 04, 2019 10:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Miami Air 737 runway overrun into river at NAS Jacksonville
Replies: 247
Views: 42050

Re: Plane crash in Jacksonville

She does nothing to improve CNN's trustworthiness. I stopped listening to her years ago. She came from NTSB as I recall, but she's full of crap. There's a reason she is no longer with the NTSB and now just a talking head for CNN. Listen to her for 5 minutes! I know having to listen to anything on C...

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by slcguy
Sat May 04, 2019 7:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Miami Air 737 runway overrun into river at NAS Jacksonville
Replies: 247
Views: 42050

Re: Plane crash in Jacksonville

Oh Christ, CNN has Schiavo pontificating already... She does nothing to improve CNN's trustworthiness. I stopped listening to her years ago. She came from NTSB as I recall, but she's full of crap. There's a reason she is no longer with the NTSB and now just a talking head for CNN. Listen to her for...

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