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by Flanker7
Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM New route to Riyad
Replies: 16
Views: 3859

Re: KLM New route to Riyad

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1444679&hilit=Klm+asia if you search a bit you will find.
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FCRO wrote:
Why does klm maintain the klm asia livery?

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1444679&hilit=Klm+asia if you search a bit you will find.

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by Flanker7
Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM New route to Riyad
Replies: 16
Views: 3859

Re: KLM New route to Riyad

Silly question, but will KL operates with aircraft painted in the regular livery, or must they adopt the Asia Brand in the same way the do for the PRC and RC with KLM Asia (removing the cross)? I have come to realize that Roman Catholicism in Saudi Arabia is officially barred from being practised. ...

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by Flanker7
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM New route to Riyad
Replies: 16
Views: 3859

KLM New route to Riyad

KLM will start flying to Riyad from September the 28th. The route will be flown 4 times a week with the A 330.-200 . Schedule is Monday, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturday. The return flight to Amsterdam will have a intermediate stop in Damman. Riyad is new to KLM's network.
Source luchtvaartnieuws

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by Flanker7
Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM - Master Thread
Replies: 321
Views: 49280

Re: Air France KLM - Master Thread

Dieuwer wrote:
Seems low risk. Because full flights or empty flights, either way KL gets free money from government.

There will be no free money, details are still worked out but it will not be free.

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by Flanker7
Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: airBaltic to terminate 19 routes from Riga in summer 2020
Replies: 6
Views: 2835

Re: airBaltic to terminate 19 routes from Riga in summer 2020

Data not quite accurate, all three states will be connected with Amsterdam again.

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by Flanker7
Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL Takes Into Account Possibility of AFKL Breakup
Replies: 208
Views: 23567

Re: KL Takes Into Account Possibility of AFKL Breakup

Why KLM ever merged with Air France never made any sense, AF has always been the second worse run airline in Europe after Alitalia. KLM would fit very nicely in the IAG portfolio, especially with their 777 & 787 long haul fleets. ?? When KL merged with AF, KL was loss making while AF was the si...

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by Flanker7
Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL Takes Into Account Possibility of AFKL Breakup
Replies: 208
Views: 23567

Re: KL Takes Into Account Possibility of AFKL Breakup

Why KLM ever merged with Air France never made any sense, AF has always been the second worse run airline in Europe after Alitalia. KLM would fit very nicely in the IAG portfolio, especially with their 777 & 787 long haul fleets. ?? When KL merged with AF, KL was loss making while AF was the si...

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by Flanker7
Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:12 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Random Good music from Youtube
Replies: 49
Views: 2501

Re: Random Good music from Youtube

https://youtu.be/kAl5jucOgro

No explanation needed
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https://youtu.be/kAl5jucOgro

No explanation needed

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by Flanker7
Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:19 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Should DL Pressure Skyteam Partners to Move from NRT to HND?
Replies: 10
Views: 935

Re: Should DL Pressure Skyteam Partners to Move from NRT to HND?

UA857 wrote:
Since DL doesn´t serve NRT anymore should DL by at least convince it´s Skyteam partners to move from NRT to HND?

Delta had no say in the matter, Japan did not grant The Netherlands any slots HND eventhough KLM wanted to fly there.

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by Flanker7
Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM - Master Thread
Replies: 321
Views: 49280

Re: Air France & KLM - Master Thread

An AF A330-200 (F-GZCK) on approach to Pointe Noire (PNR) in The Congo on April 11th, at 20:00, was shot at by intoxicated airport constable. Two bullets pierced the fuselage: one in the fuel tank and the other in the main hold. The repatriation flight was delayed for 24 hours, to allow for a B777-...

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by Flanker7
Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM - Master Thread
Replies: 321
Views: 49280

Re: Air France & KLM - Master Thread

I am not in favour of "master threads" for any topic, particularly if it attempts to cover such a wide scope. I am quite sure that new threads will pop up as and when news worthy events arise within the AF/KLM world. Much better to have a thread devoted to each specific topic, then the re...

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by Flanker7
Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM - Master Thread
Replies: 321
Views: 49280

Re: Air France & KLM - Master Thread

Hey, I thought with so many changes going on with AF/KL at the moment, I thought we could have Master Thread, to keep it all in one place. Please feel free to add info or updates that you find. Air France Cabin Refresh: All A330's are now complete. 77W COI fleet: F-GSQX is apparently currently in f...

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by Flanker7
Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:07 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Different flights, unusual visitors.
Replies: 19
Views: 1418

Re: Different flights, unusual visitors.

Kent350787 wrote:
Another Condor 763 flight departing SYD now.

I didn't see th KLM plane :(


A second flight is planned, you might still see one.

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by Flanker7
Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020
Replies: 1158
Views: 116674

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

KLM is sending a 777-200 to SYD as we speak to pick up stranded pax. There will be a few more flights the next coming days. Routing will be AMS-KUL-SYD.

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by Flanker7
Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 143
Views: 13470

Re: Spanish Aviation during this crisis

What aviation? I could count the number of planes in the sky on the fingers of one hand... Isolate the sick and the elder, that's it. They are destroying this country's economy with this quarantine. Yes let's go business as usual and give this virus a free pass on the rest of your countryman. Wake ...

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by Flanker7
Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:08 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Can underwear being too heavy set off the TSA bodyscanner machine?
Replies: 25
Views: 1610

Re: Can underwear being too heavy set off the TSA bodyscanner machine?

TUGMASTER wrote:
PatrickZ80 wrote:
The only thing that can set off a bodyscanner is metal.


Not true.... I use the body scanner everyday, and around 50% of the time , it shows up as a square at the back of my head.
I have absolutely zero metal in my head...!!!

What, you have a square head? :lol:

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by Flanker7
Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

petertenthije wrote:
Flanker7 wrote:
So what are we going to discuss now, how good the 777 looks, if only the 787 had a upper deck. All good comes to an end, to bad it had to be the 747.

We could discuss if Delta is going to buy the retired jumbos? ;)

Forgot about that, I'm sure the will :lol:

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by Flanker7
Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

So what are we going to discuss now, how good the 777 looks, if only the 787 had a upper deck. All good comes to an end, to bad it had to be the 747.

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by Flanker7
Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

Not quite, today is the last day with outbound flights. Tomorrow will be the last day with inbounds. You are quite right, with corona and recovering from surgery I've literally lost track of time. You too? I can finally walk after 6 months and they shut the world down. grumble grumble. Can't believ...

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by Flanker7
Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

petertenthije wrote:
Flanker7 wrote:
The final day has come, the last ever KLM 747 pax are coming home, MEX being the last one.

Not quite, today is the last day with outbound flights. Tomorrow will be the last day with inbounds.

You are quite right, with corona and recovering from surgery I've literally lost track of time.

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by Flanker7
Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

The final day has come, the last ever KLM 747 pax are coming home, MEX being the last one.

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by Flanker7
Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Images: KLM 747 at AMS 1971-1991
Replies: 30
Views: 5136

Re: IMAGES: KLM 747 at AMS 1971-1991

Great pictures I definitely prefer the original livery KLM’s 747 Classics were delivered with Then again that’s the case with most airlines for me these days, what passes for a paint scheme just gets worse and worse I think with a few notable exceptions like SIA who know better than to tamper for n...

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by Flanker7
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The new domestic service standard: just water. DL now onboard.
Replies: 207
Views: 28161

Re: The new domestic service standard: just water. DL now onboard.

This is not cost driven but to minimize exposure to crew. Its happening in Europe as well. KLM on European flights will make sure that a sandwich and water is placed on the seat prior to boarding and will ask passengers to even take their own trash from board. All this to limit the time spent in th...

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by Flanker7
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM A310 Questions
Replies: 48
Views: 6048

Re: KLM A310 Questions

Pretty sure that KLM A310s flew AMS-YHZ-YOW and back, probably for a season. That route started with the 747, then A310, then was flown under wet lease by Martinair's A310 and ultimately 767. That route was mainly for DOD, F16 pilots used to train low level flying in Canada and KLM used the A 310 t...

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by Flanker7
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

Its last arrival can be followed live here.
Die wordt live uitgezonden op het YouTube-kanaal NH Airtime. Naar verwachting komt het toestel rond 15 uur aan, maar dat kan nog veranderen.

Translate
Expected arrival 1500 dutch time. YouTube channel of NH Airtime. Arrival will be broadcasted live.

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by Flanker7
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

It looks like the last commercial arrivals are this Sunday; PH-BFL KL736 from Curacao, arriving at 08:07 PH-BFY KL714 from Paramaribo, arriving at 08:57 PH-BFT KL686 from Mexico, arriving at 15:12. Looks like KL686 from Mexico will be the last ever commercial KLM 747 flight. Looks like its going to...

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by Flanker7
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The new domestic service standard: just water. DL now onboard.
Replies: 207
Views: 28161

Re: The new domestic service standard: just water. DL now onboard.

So do they compensate the business class passengers? The have received a mail with explanations why, cannot say for sure if any form of compensation is in place. Well I'll make sure to avoid KLM for my long-haul business class trips in the forseeable future then. Entirely up to you , it's not going...

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by Flanker7
Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The new domestic service standard: just water. DL now onboard.
Replies: 207
Views: 28161

Re: The new domestic service standard: just water. DL now onboard.

VSMUT wrote:
Flanker7 wrote:
same meals throughout all classes with no drinks services other then water runs.


So do they compensate the business class passengers?

The have received a mail with explanations why, cannot say for sure if any form of compensation is in place.

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by Flanker7
Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The new domestic service standard: just water. DL now onboard.
Replies: 207
Views: 28161

Re: The new domestic service standard: just water. DL now onboard.

This is not cost driven but to minimize exposure to crew. Its happening in Europe as well. KLM on European flights will make sure that a sandwich and water is placed on the seat prior to boarding and will ask passengers to even take their own trash from board. All this to limit the time spent in the...

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by Flanker7
Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:50 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Things to do while social distancing
Replies: 90
Views: 3260

Re: Things to do while social distancing

Recovering from Knee surgery, readings books, doing a lot of fysio exercises, going through A.net posts. That's about it.

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by Flanker7
Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

I found some photos in the book, The Grand lady classic, unfortunately cannot upload. Can PM one of you I you like, I have that book! :D There's indeed one small photo of the small cargo area of in that configuration in that book. When browsing through it, it makes you sad knowing it will be all ov...

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by Flanker7
Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

I found some photos in the book, The Grand lady classic, unfortunately cannot upload. Can PM one of you I you like,

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by Flanker7
Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

I'm sure that most of you already found this group on Facebook but for thos who haven't have a look at it. Great videos, photos comments etc worth having a look at. Almost every departing 747 is doing a wing roll and for many cockpit it's their last flight. Lots of videos have ATC comments. Farewell...

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by Flanker7
Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

The combi 747s have a fixed bulkhead between the passenger cabin and the maindeck cargo hold. It is therefor not simply a matter of removing seats. Unless an item fits through the passenger door, it is not going in the passenger cabin. Moving the bulkhead would require structural changes. Consideri...

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by Flanker7
Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

ex-topmanager of klm says in an open leter klm should keep the 747M as freighters, because there now is such a big need for freighters. https://luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/categorie/2/airlines/ex-topmanager-klm-schrijft-open-brief-elbers-houd-de-747-combis-alsjeblieft-langer sorry Dutch only Here’s ...

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by Flanker7
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 336499

Re: IB & KL flights not allowed to land at GYE

My thoughts, complete idiots. Empty flights to help people get home with hardly any risk involved. Fire whoever's in charge.

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by Flanker7
Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: If you thought toilet paper shortages were a problem...
Replies: 23
Views: 1835

Re: If you thought toilet paper shortages were a problem...

... think of the deprivations being faced by our friends in AMS: Sex clubs in Amsterdam’s “Red Light” district were told to close down and long lines formed at marijuana coffee shops on Sunday, as the Netherlands imposed tight restrictions to prevent the spread of coronavirus. The government ordere...

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by Flanker7
Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:34 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Is there any possibility of an AF-KLM breakup?
Replies: 30
Views: 3869

Re: Is there any possibility of an AF-KLM breakup?

I would disagree. SAS does just fine as a stand alone entity and i’d say KLM has an even stronger network. You mean the SAS that has been on the verge of bankruptcy for the better part of the past two decades and to a great extent relies on Norwegian domestic PSO routes? They have been bailed out b...

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by Flanker7
Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:21 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 747-300 GE Engines
Replies: 33
Views: 3831

Re: 747-300 GE Engines

The -300 SUD had engine fan blade problems caused by the airflow pattern being disturbed by the stretched upper deck on take-off, especially when the aircraft banked left of right. We, SAA, had a few inboard engines throw fan blades due to this phenomenon and P&W had to send out a team to inves...

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by Flanker7
Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

KL staff in general are quite sentimental about these birds imho, I'm sure they will give it a proper send-off post crisis. They are effectively just grounding them. That remains to be seen. Cash is one of the vocal points right now so having them moved and parted out means cash. Having them sittin...

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by Flanker7
Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM considers A321 order
Replies: 271
Views: 50683

Re: KLM considers A321 order

Could the corona virus possibly have any impact on these decisions? Anything cash-out will be cancelled / reduced. KLM often proved faster & more decisive than most airlines in crisis. In the past they came out relatively stronger because of it. A bit off-topic, but KLM won't order anything soo...

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by Flanker7
Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

FlyingHonu001 wrote:
It saids 6x...there are actually 7 frames left, implying one could still be used for active service?


None will be used , every single one apart from the freighters are going out.

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by Flanker7
Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KLM retires all 747 by end of March

Also, there is already an existing topic on the phase-out of the KLM 747's. I would have posted it there but figured it's quite a dramatic change of events. I thought this was the existing topic? After all, it is named "KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread". Is there another topic?...

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by Flanker7
Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:58 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will the Coronavirus be the end for the 747?
Replies: 23
Views: 1590

Re: Will the Coronavirus be the end for the 747?

I did for KLM, all remaining 747 are retired by the end of March.

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by Flanker7
Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

Dutchy wrote:
marcelh wrote:
So that means also that this thread will come to an end way earlier than expected...


Yes, this thread should be closed. Too bad.

We can rename it, memories flying the KLM 747 and keep going a little longer.

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by Flanker7
Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

A true end of an era, I have flown on all of them across the world, from my first ever BFA to JFK and last one BFY from ORD. Great memories for sure, I'll miss flying her.

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by Flanker7
Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KLM retires all 747 by end of March

AMS18C36C wrote:
I'm waiting for a reliable source a swell. But considering the current sharp decline in air travel, not very surprising if true.

Also, there is already an existing topic on the phase-out of the KLM 747's.

I would have posted it there but figured it's quite a dramatic change of events.

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by Flanker7
Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KLM retires all 747 by end of March

[quote="AirwayBill"]Sad but not surprising if true.

Anyone cares to provide a reliable source?[/quot

As said my wife flies the 747 with KLM and she has been informed. News can also be found on Facebook, farewell klm747

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by Flanker7
Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

Re: KLM retires all 747 by end of March

Today KLM announced that all remaining 747 will be retired by the end of March. A real shame but under the current circumstances understandable. You will have to take my word for it, my partner is crew on the 747. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLM#Fleet suggests there were 2 pax and 5 combi left, a...

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by Flanker7
Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309334

KLM retires all 747 by end of March

Today KLM announced that all remaining 747 will be retired by the end of March. A real shame but under the current circumstances understandable. You will have to take my word for it, my partner is crew on the 747.

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