My DL contacts say ORD-LAX is “in the works.” As a former DL intern, I would take that as legitimate. I can’t see thus happening until the move to T5 though. Same with VS returning. Market is there, but yield isn’t there. Looking for a contract to seal the deal. UA is killing it with High J and AA h...Jump to post
Based on this forums homers: BA from MAN - AUS/BNA/BOS/DFW/DTW/IAH/PHX/YYZ is given.
In reality, BA is not starting MAN - USA (including Canada since a poster here always brings YYZ into USA route threads).
They had 10 years to prepare! I have no sympathy for them.Jump to post
While DFW is a great hub (only ATL is better for DL), let’s be realistic on some international flights: ATH: Only served seasonal from EWR / JFK / PHL / ORD. This is a pipe dream. NGO: Toyota alone will not fill this route. LAX didn’t have NGO with 10x the O&D and Toyota. KIX: ORD has significan...Jump to post
bravotango75 wrote:bravotango75 wrote:Ishrion wrote:
Looks to be 259: https://www.flightsfrom.com/DFW/destinations
That has to be a mistake, how can Dallas have more destinations than BOS?
Auto industry! Stealing all the LATAM O&D that should be at the Motor City!
Some people actually believe that!
Maybe AA will add BCN, BRU, and ZRH in the future.Jump to post
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... june-2020/
BNE-ORD starting a few days earlier. Are advanced bookings good?
Jal and Latam have codeshare agreements between GRU-JFK-TYO and GRU-BOS-TYO. I could swear that GRU-LHR-TYO was also an option. Wouldn't TYO-YYZ-GRU be better as it would avoid transiting through the US? It could be similar to CAN-YVR-MEX. Why don't you just give this a rest? If they don't want to ...Jump to post
I could definitely see AZ serving ATL, MSP and maybe DTW seasonally. Ages ago AZ was to announce IAH service and regretfully it never happened -- they they hooked up with Skyteam. Not with DL flying the route. FCO is extremely seasonal as mentioned, but non-JFK DL hubs have enough service. Yes, the...Jump to post
The fan clubs in CLT, PHL, and PHX will be disappointed that MNL won’t be their first Asian nonstop.
Not going to happen, even from DFW or LAX. MIA has a lot of MNL traffic, but yields that make AA ORD-China look good and we know how that worked out.
Even with the Air Italy, AV and WW setbacks, ORD keeps moving forward! FI going daily double offsets WW, AA adding seasonal to ATH and upgauging 3 LHR to 789 (1 is seasonal), Y4 to QRO, and TP starting in June. ET going to 5x weekly. Looking forward to 2020, LY is now confirmed! It’s just a matter o...Jump to post
Interesting that ORD is on this list at all. The delays at the airport are down significantly when compared to before the newer runways came online. Maybe because ORD was slot controlled in the past and has had delay problems as well. Most of this is changing due to the new runway configuration, ev...Jump to post
And anetters think PHL is AAs new Asia hub with 22 a day to NRT? ORD has more F / J per day than that and AA can’t make it work. Good luck PHL! And CLT?
I can see JL doing HND-BOS/DFW/LAX/MIA/ORD/SEA, but HND-AUS/BNA/CLT/PHL/PHX/RDU make little sense.
I would guess the following will be required / demanded:
I can’t find where I saw this, but anyone else see or hear that Avianca is pulling out of ORD. May 19th... GUA is only booking in full fare Y in May 4x a week: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/282910/avianca-ns19-us-inventory-changes-as-of-12feb19/ And AV just announced a GUA hub. ...Jump to post
Hadn't noticed this before (CDA email): https://i.postimg.cc/dtKMQv6B/Screen-Shot-2019-03-06-at-8-13-43-AM.png https://i.postimg.cc/9FxB8YD7/Screen-Shot-2019-03-06-at-8-35-25-AM.png This is interesting that ticketing/check in will be in Terminal 2, but flights will still arrive and depart from gate...Jump to post
MIA to South Africa or hubs with big populations to CMN are the only routes that make sense for AA to Africa. As mentioned above, DFW is not an oil market! IAH is the oil market in Texas. DFW has some HQs, but the employees and commercial airline travelers are in IAH. DFW to West Africa would be a t...Jump to post
If CLT is that important to AA to Asia, than why didn’t AA apply for CLT-HND? There is a reason AA doesn’t fly and won’t fly CLT to Asia: it would lose more money than ORD was loosing. LAX is bleeding too, but less than ORD. People here “want” routes that are not needed. Face it, AUS, CLT, and RDU a...Jump to post
Any update on ORDs performance? Based on this forum; it’s an atrocious money losing route and only there because UA and the city of Chicago “pressured” the CEO of NZ (who used to work in Chicago) fly this route. We all know ATL, AUS, BNA, BOS, CLT, DFW, DTW, MIA, PHL, PHX, RDU, & SEA are much be...Jump to post
AUS? The Californiaizatin of Texas is happening before our eyes! Just a matter of time before AUS to AKL/BJS/BNE/CTU/HKG/HND/ICN/KIX/MEL/MNL/NGO/NRT/PVG/SIN/SYD/TPE are required! And that’s just Asia! Throw in BOG/BSB/GIG/GRU/GYE/LIM/SCL/UIO. Finally: AMS/ARN/ATH/BRU/BUD/CDG/CPH/DME/DUS/EDI/FCO/HEL/...Jump to post
B6 is trading JFK and BOS to AA for ORD. Really. AA reduced ops at JFK to make it an O&D operation and is growing PHL as their hub ops. They don't want JFK as a Hub. This was a sarcastic joke. B6 isn’t leaving BOS AA is not keen on expanding JFK AA at ORD is a pure lower 48ish plus LHR and CUN....Jump to post
Given the tech connections between the Chicago area and India the suggestion AA couldn't make this work appears to not bode well for the long-term viability of their ORD hub... AA has shown no interest or intent to connect pax through ORD internationally on their own metal. Only JV carriers. ORD ha...Jump to post
Jewish population does not = demand to Israel. NY/NJ, MIA, and LA have large Israeli populations. I personally think ORD-TLV can work due to connections. We know AA won’t fly it and UA doesn’t have the gates at ORD. Sure, UA could probably make it work (9pm departure from ORD and 5am arrival at ORD)...Jump to post
I wouldn't be surprised to see a summer seasonal PHL-CMN or even PHL-RAK. Morocco is getting to be extremely popular now with Americans. US had, and now AA has a lot of experience in doing these seasonal routes, and I feel like they could probably make Morocco work. RAK would be my first guess for ...Jump to post
DL and UA are begging for this. Others as well. A big market and Boeing is sitting in there ass for years. If Boeing doesn’t announce this year, Boeing can’t complain when DL, FI, and UA give Airbus 300 orders. Orders for what? Airbus doesn't have a 763-sized aircraft. I guess DL and UA can order A...Jump to post
I doubt DL will get all 6 or even 5 requests. My locks: AA: DFW (1) LAS LAX DL: ATL DTW PDX SEA HA: HNL UA: EWR IAD ORD Each of the big 3 get 3 with DL getting 4 and HA getting one. That leaves 1 open, let the games begin! JL: BOS DFW (AA guaranteed 1, this will supplement) LAX ORD (AA drops NRT). S...Jump to post
DL has DTW adequately covered to the UK and Italy (and AMS as well). I’ve never heard of DTW-MAN about to be announced twice! When at what airline? ORD lost MAN after 32 years, the one time “best performing” TATL route per flight attendants (a reliable source). AA f—-ed this route up by using crap p...Jump to post
ORD has limited gates for expansion for the foreseeable future. Upgauging is how ORD is growing.
If / when the satellite gates and T2 are built / rebuilt, ORD will be hard pressed to get to 700. In 10 years that could change, but who knows what ORD will be like in 10 years.
QF has stated publicly that BNE-ORD on a 789 will happen if the JV with AA is approved. SYD-ORD is not possible today, but Project Sunrise would bring aircraft capable of flying SYD-JFK/LHR/ORD. Can you elaborate on what "Project Sunrise" is? I have heard this many times but I am unfamili...Jump to post
With Sydney Australia being announced recently as a "Sister City" to Chicago. Could this possibly signal the start of air services between SYD and ORD? in some way shape or form, not necessarily non-stop? Kinda like when the New Zealand All Blacks played a few friendly matches at Soldier ...Jump to post
klm617 wrote:So with all the extra HND slots opening up for the Japanese carriers does anyone see NH or JL starting DTW-HND ?
My feeling is that there's at least a 50% chance that DL gets either 5 or all 6 of their requests. They went to significant lengths in their application to highlight the competitive dynamics between DL and the JVs, including the flexibility the JVs have through their Japanese partners to move gatew...Jump to post
What about JL and NH predictions? These could be impacted by what AA / UA receive. JL: BOS DFW (AA will get 1 for sure) ORD (AA will probably drop NRT) CLT / MIA / PHX / PHL (tie into AA hubs) AUS (I’m reaching) NH: BOS DEN (UA didn’t apply) IAD / IAH / ORD (depending on UA) LAX SEA Did NH and JL a...Jump to post
What about JL and NH predictions? These could be impacted by what AA / UA receive.
DFW (AA will get 1 for sure)
ORD (AA will probably drop NRT)
CLT / MIA / PHX / PHL (tie into AA hubs)
AUS (I’m reaching)
DEN (UA didn’t apply)
IAD / IAH / ORD (depending on UA)