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by DL747400
Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1897
Views: 330820

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

I agree, it's an easier pill to swallow having an extra day off vs working the same 40 hrs but now with a pay cut. The other part is by reducing everyone to 30 hrs you create more 30 hr work, example 3 40 hr workers is equivalent to 4 30 hr workers, which helps with furloughs while payroll stays th...

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by DL747400
Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1897
Views: 330820

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Maybe, but remember most of us are already under 25% pay cuts. There have some nominal benefit cuts as well. But wasn't that 25% pay reduction introduced as a temporary measure intended to help weather the worst of the pandemic? Wasn't it driven by moving from a 5-day/40-hour work week to a 4-day/3...

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by DL747400
Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1897
Views: 330820

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

I'm thinking Delta grossly underestimated how many people would actually take the retirement packages. :checkmark: Agreed. I suspected that this would be the case. Based on what I'm hearing, you are not alone in this belief. It will take more than a few weeks for the dust to settle. There is about ...

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by DL747400
Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't Hawaiian wait for the A321LR/XLR?
Replies: 69
Views: 13958

Re: Why didn't Hawaiian wait for the A321LR/XLR?

I'm not sure anyone would want to fly 11 hours on a narrowbody. HA has the A330 and eventually the 787 for routes like HNL-JFK. :checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark: I think it's just nice to be able to get up and walk around on long flights. It's just easier to do on a widebody. The ceiling is also ...

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by DL747400
Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM slap on the wrist for discrimination
Replies: 31
Views: 5375

Re: KLM slab on the wrist for discrimination

Perhaps you meant to say "Slap" on the wrist? KLM was in a no-win situation in this case, but KLM should not have been placed in this position in the first place. There cannot be laws written to address every possible situation. That is where common sense and communication come into play. ...

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by DL747400
Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1897
Views: 330820

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Last I heard today it was over 1900. I am not gonna be surprised to see over 2200 sign up for it. Question remains as to how many will back out though. I'd expect the number of pilots who sign up for the retirement package and then retract it before the deadline will be quite small. They've likely ...

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by DL747400
Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership
Replies: 323
Views: 40263

Re: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership

Doesn't AA's pilot union have to give their approval before a deal like this can move forward? And if so, why would they agree to something like this? Seems like this will make it easier and more necessary to reduce AA staffing (including pilots).

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by DL747400
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Frontier Has Cancelled 97 Flights So Far Today??
Replies: 43
Views: 9310

Re: Frontier Has Cancelled 97 Flights So Far Today??

Another reason to not fly F9. Never have and never will. Sounds like a very poorly run operation and I really feel for their customers.

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by DL747400
Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1897
Views: 330820

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Some tighter credit restrictions on a DL line of credit: Delta Air Lines Inc (DAL.N) said on Thursday it has amended its $2.65 billion credit facility agreement with covenants, which include restricting the U.S. airline’s ability to pay dividends or repurchase stock before Sept. 30, 2021. The amend...

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by DL747400
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 5631

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

DL_Mech wrote:
The DL inaugural in 1978 was flown with pair of leased TWA L-1011-100s.


:checkmark: Thanks for the correction! Yes, the DL -500s came later.

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by DL747400
Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 5631

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

Delta inaugurated TATL service in 1978, with ATL-LGW service using the Lockheed L-1011-500 TriStar: https://news.delta.com/delta-celebrates-30-years-trans-atlantic-service April 30, 1978, was another era in air travel. Crude oil was $13 per barrel, compared to more than $115 today. Delta reservation...

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by DL747400
Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - July 2020
Replies: 93
Views: 8179

Re: AA pilot union wants US govt to purchase seats to maintain seating caps

Then why I am subsidizing people's desire to go fly to states to go play free and loose and potentially spread the virus? So they can have middle seats open? Can't have it both ways. While I know that is not why everyone is traveling, why would the government pay for social distancing on an airplan...

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by DL747400
Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - July 2020
Replies: 93
Views: 8179

Re: AA pilot union wants US govt to purchase seats to maintain seating caps

Yeah well the story I linked to was dated June 25th as well, so I'm not sure what your point is? I could not find that this had already been posted or discussed, so feel free to provide the link to an earlier thread if you have one.

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by DL747400
Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - July 2020
Replies: 93
Views: 8179

AA pilot union wants US govt to purchase seats to maintain seating caps

Just saw this: American Airlines Pilots Want Load-Factor Caps Subsidized https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/airlines-lessors/american-airlines-pilots-want-load-factor-caps-subsidized This statement sums up the APA proposal: "In practice, this would require the government to purchase all mid...

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by DL747400
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CARES Act Aid Extension for Airlines
Replies: 86
Views: 12426

Re: CARES Act Aid Extension for Airlines

I realize this would be a major antitrust issue, but if they shrank their capacity on PHX-MSP for example, to three flights a day spread out among WN, DL, AA. It seems like it could be for the greater good rather than the race to the bottom capitalist situation. However this is totally unorthodox i...

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by DL747400
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:12 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines, Air Canada and Westjet end COVID-19 seat blocking
Replies: 20
Views: 1269

Re: American Airlines, Air Canada and Westjet end COVID-19 seat blocking

jaybird wrote:
Not true .. only 1 airliner has 100% air from the outside - that's the Boeing 717. Other airliners recycle around 50% of the cabin air and 50% draw from the outside.


:checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark: Thanks very much for pointing that out! Was waiting for someone else to chime in.

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by DL747400
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:01 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines, Air Canada and Westjet end COVID-19 seat blocking
Replies: 20
Views: 1269

Re: American Airlines, Air Canada and Westjet end COVID-19 seat blocking

Already discussed here: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=22294161#p22294161 IMO, it is completely reckless and irresponsible to sell commercial aircraft cabins to 100% capacity in the midst of a pandemic. Carriers doing this are placing their employees and customers at much greater ri...

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by DL747400
Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:54 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American to use all seating July 1
Replies: 18
Views: 1226

Re: American to use all seating July 1

The reality is that keeping middle seats open does nothing for actual health, it is a feel good measure. Enforced mask policies are more effective than 18" of separation. I respect your opinion, but disagree. In this environment, I'm grateful for every single inch of additional separation from...

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by DL747400
Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American to use all seating July 1
Replies: 18
Views: 1226

Re: American to use all seating July 1

A stunning and disappointing move, especially in light of the fact that both DL and WN have seating caps and blocked middle seats in place at least through September 30th. This gives people a reason to book away from AA and UA in markets where DL and/or WN options exist and are similarly priced.

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by DL747400
Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1897
Views: 330820

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

6200 takers on the departure packages so far, 80/20 split between retiring and opt out. I'm thinking that people may be stunned by the final number of package takers. Many more early retirements than voluntary severance, but it would not surprise me at all if we see 30-50% of the 90,000 employees t...

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by DL747400
Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BBD ejection strategy: got lucky or sound decision-making?
Replies: 40
Views: 5284

Re: BBD ejection strategy: got lucky or sound decision-making?

Totally luck. Although reasonable people knew that there WOULD someday be another global pandemic, no one knew the timing, so the timing of BBD's decisions was purely coincidence.

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by DL747400
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - June 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 18353

Re: US Airlines/Airports mandating face masks?

DL requires all passengers to wear face covering (nose/mouth) and provides one if you arrive at check-in without one.

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by DL747400
Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alitalia's DC10s
Replies: 29
Views: 5607

Re: Alitalia's DC10s

Assuming that it's a cabin outflow valve which I'm seeing just forward of the wing in that scanned pic, I must say that is quite a substantial nicotine stain flowing out behind it! (cough, cough).

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by DL747400
Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas Project Sunrise developments
Replies: 48
Views: 5166

Re: Qantas Project Sunrise developments

Good grief, not another thread on this!

Time to face reality and admit that the sun has set on Project Sunrise.

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by DL747400
Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DFW Airport Is Now The World's Busiest Airport
Replies: 41
Views: 9152

Re: DFW Airport Is Now The World's Busiest Airport

Considering the mess 2020 has been, why is that even important? :checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark: Totally agree with you. It's not at all important and is totally meaningless, since it tells us nothing about whether the demand is originating and where it is ultimately destined. Most of it is mere...

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by DL747400
Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - June 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 18353

Airline cabin interior design trends in a post-COVID19 world

There are multiple proposed designs in this article: https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/cabin-interiors-covid-19-design-trends Some designs are new. Other designs are variations of what we've seen over the past few months. One design really stood out to me at a time when DELTA and other carriers...

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by DL747400
Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 5/31/2020: JUNE GLOOM; WN Makes Move for ATL;AA Exits OAK-PHX,PHL-YOW;DL Exits YOW-DTW/LGA;FI Exits PHL/PDX
Replies: 86
Views: 13957

Re: OAG Changes 5/31/2020: JUNE GLOOM; WN Makes Move for ATL;AA Exits OAK-PHX,PHL-YOW;DL Exits YOW-DTW/LGA;FI Exits PHL/

Just to validate enilria claims about what Southwest is trying to do. There is a whole thread here that was created. https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1446637 IMO, that separate thread validates nothing at all in terms of the claim in this thread by the OP saying that "kn...

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by DL747400
Sun May 31, 2020 8:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 5/31/2020: JUNE GLOOM; WN Makes Move for ATL;AA Exits OAK-PHX,PHL-YOW;DL Exits YOW-DTW/LGA;FI Exits PHL/PDX
Replies: 86
Views: 13957

Re: OAG Changes 5/31/2020: JUNE GLOOM; WN Makes Move for ATL;AA Exits OAK-PHX,PHL-YOW;DL Exits YOW-DTW/LGA;FI Exits PHL/

I *know* from sources that this is an attempt to get more gates in ATL. While they may be able to squeeze them into their current gate holdings, this will be justification for more common use gates. Of course you do. :roll: Your post is nothing more than another attempt at starting a rumor and your...

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by DL747400
Thu May 28, 2020 3:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: DL to acquire 7 A350’s from QR
Replies: 96
Views: 24297

Re: Rumor: DL to acquire 7 A350’s from QR

I smell DL trying to bring QR into their fold. Would not bode well for OneWorld. Both together can buy majority stake in IAG, Delta(UK) would get control of LHR hub. OK, I'll bite. Care to elaborate? Interesting fantasy at the very least. Is it a signal that QR takeovers DL and we will see Qatari A...

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by DL747400
Thu May 28, 2020 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA staff layoffs coming
Replies: 86
Views: 13303

Re: AA staff layoffs coming

It's a realistic looking memo. Meanwhile, management has been making commitments that it will not file Chapter 11. I would put about as much faith in that statement from Doug as I would "we will never loose money again." That’s a tired chord to keep playing. It was extremely foolish to sa...

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by DL747400
Wed May 27, 2020 11:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: A major US airline likely will go out of business this year,
Replies: 308
Views: 41543

AA's Doug Parker says U.S. Carriers Will Survive Without Bankruptcies

Yeah, he SAYS this, but who actually believes him? Does he really think that people see him as credible? After all, he also said AA would never lose money again. :roll: Parker Says U.S. Carriers Will Survive Without Bankruptcies https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/airlines-lessors/parker-says-us-...

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by DL747400
Sat May 23, 2020 4:01 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A380 perfect for social distancing
Replies: 9
Views: 1428

Re: A380 perfect for social distancing

International flights are supposed to resume in the next few months, yet we don't have a vaccine, nor even a decent treatment, against coronavirus. Social distancing is practiced everywhere, some airlines are already doing it, others are fighting against it. The A380, with its unmatched floor area,...

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by DL747400
Thu May 21, 2020 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA to partner with the Cleveland Clinic and Clorox
Replies: 24
Views: 2579

Re: UA to partner with the Cleveland Clinic and Clorox

It would probably be better if they just went about this as an industry. A rising tide lifts all boats. Its naive to think we are going to have airline trying to brag about who is cleaner than other. Its also naive to think that corporate travel buyers are going to think, "well we are only goi...

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by DL747400
Thu May 21, 2020 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: American Airlines Business & Finance Discussion
Replies: 354
Views: 65593

Re: FT: Investors bet AA will file for BK

AA's debt it at historical cheap interest and even if they had paid off more aircraft you cant borrow against them now anyway (certainly not at any affordable rates). Not true. DL was able to raise significant funds by borrowing against a portion of their owned fleet. At very reasonable rates. http...

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by DL747400
Wed May 20, 2020 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: American Airlines Business & Finance Discussion
Replies: 354
Views: 65593

Re: FT: Investors bet AA will file for BK

AA's debt it at historical cheap interest and even if they had paid off more aircraft you cant borrow against them now anyway (certainly not at any affordable rates). Not true. DL was able to raise significant funds by borrowing against a portion of their owned fleet. At very reasonable rates. http...

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by DL747400
Tue May 19, 2020 2:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Delta to Convert Some Planes to All Delta One Suites
Replies: 64
Views: 15725

Re: Rumor: Delta to Convert Some Planes to All Delta One Suites

International travel will not just open up and go back to normal. There will be restrictions. Don't tell that to the "back to the business as usual" crowd, who believes that everything and everyone will be back to 2019 levels by Labor Day. The people who are insisting on their rights to N...

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by DL747400
Mon May 18, 2020 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: American Airlines Business & Finance Discussion
Replies: 354
Views: 65593

Re: FT: Investors bet AA will file for BK

Could even go chapter 13. When was the last time a major corporation sought C13? C13 is too long and drawn out, so more likely to be C11 or C7. Survival of the underlying corporation requires getting into C11, completing reorg and and shedding debt/cost as quickly as possible, then emerging. The lo...

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by DL747400
Mon May 18, 2020 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Delta to Convert Some Planes to All Delta One Suites
Replies: 64
Views: 15725

Re: Rumor: Delta to Convert Some Planes to All Delta One Suites

did I miss something, ex-A321T? When did these A321T get taken from AA? You already know this, but there are a number of folks who believe that it is only a matter of time before AA files for bankruptcy or collapses. See this other thread: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=144...

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by DL747400
Mon May 18, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Delta to Convert Some Planes to All Delta One Suites
Replies: 64
Views: 15725

Re: Rumor: Delta to Convert Some Planes to All Delta One Suites

SQ tried an all business class layout but even they on their A359ULRs have some economy seats. I'm not saying it could not be done but I do think it would be nearly impossible for Delta to turn a profit on a flight operating in an all business class layout. Prior to COVID19, this was a true stateme...

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by DL747400
Mon May 18, 2020 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B6 MINT? Is it done?
Replies: 20
Views: 5956

Re: B6 MINT? Is it done?

I would think the space of Mint would be in high demand. That remains to be seen, since the business models of ALL airlines have just been made irrelevant. The personal space afforded by Mint won't necessarily be in greater demand if economy receives similar distancing. If economy receives increase...

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by DL747400
Sun May 17, 2020 7:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Emirates to decommission 40% of A380 fleet
Replies: 504
Views: 90748

Re: Rumour: Emirates to decommission 40% of A380 fleet

scbriml wrote:
LightChop2Chop wrote:
Think of all these airports that spent billions to get 380 ready. What a waste


Which airports spent billions to get A380s?


He meant collectively, but of course you knew that. Airports around the world made terminal, jetway, ramp, taxiway and runway improvements in order to accommodate the A380.

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by DL747400
Sun May 17, 2020 12:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PAE/Paine Field 10-week suspension
Replies: 11
Views: 2720

Re: PAE/Paine Field 10-week suspension

Makes sense to get the work done now. With so many people not traveling at present, I don't see this affecting any significant number of people.

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by DL747400
Sat May 16, 2020 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada to layoff 20K workers effective 7 June '20
Replies: 60
Views: 11536

Re: Air Canada to layoff 20K workers effective 7 June '20

This is not shocking in the slightest. AC have simply arrived at the same conclusion that demand will not be returning quickly and they know that they do not have the funds to keep everyone on the payroll until it does. As a result, they are simply shifting a good portion of their payrolls onto the ...

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by DL747400
Fri May 15, 2020 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Will Have 7,000 Extra Pilots in Fall
Replies: 176
Views: 23746

Re: DL Will Have 7,000 Extra Pilots in Fall

There were pilot furloughs at DL following 9/11. The COVID19 crisis is many times worse than 9/11 ever was. You can bet your boots there will be significant pilot furloughs at DL later this year and into 2021 if there are not enough takers for the voluntary severance and early retirement packages. S...

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by DL747400
Fri May 15, 2020 3:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA planning layoffs but not AA, DL etc..?
Replies: 110
Views: 14951

Re: UA planning layoffs but not AA, DL etc..?

There were furloughs at DL following 9/11. All but the most oblivious members of the population know that the current crisis is many times worse than 9/11 ever was. You can bet there will be significant furloughs at DL later this year and into 2021, just as there will be at most carriers. Anyone who...

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by DL747400
Fri May 15, 2020 1:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175371

Re: WSJ: Virgin Atlantic in Talks to Raise More Than $900 Million

I do not believe that VS will fail, nor will they be allowed to fail. That said, if VS fails, DL loses a significant portion of their overall LHR access currently afforded by the VS slot portfolio. It would be difficult if not impossible for DL to be able to recover from this within the foreseeable ...

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by DL747400
Tue May 05, 2020 11:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 753 and 764 Survival
Replies: 67
Views: 15443

Re: 753 and 764 Survival

In terms of your travel later this summer, nobody can tell you today with any degree of certainty what type of aircraft will be used to operate your upcoming flights. This was always something that was fluid, but even more so now with the unprecedented groundings and fleet reshuffling brought about ...

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by DL747400
Tue May 05, 2020 11:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aerolineas Argentinas to absorb Austral Lineas Aereas
Replies: 14
Views: 2689

Re: Aerolineas Argentinas to absorb Austral Lineas Aereas

Finally! A bit of logic and common sense out of AR and the Argentinian government.

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by DL747400
Tue May 05, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Would you spend an additional hour in a car to avoid COVID-19 hassle?
Replies: 25
Views: 1605

Re: Would you spend an additional hour in a car to avoid COVID-19 hassle?

You are not alone. A great many people are going to reach the same conclusion, joining those who already have. Short haul air travel has taken another massive blow from COVID, the other being 9/11. In regions and city pairs where reliable passenger rail service exists, the economics have changed (ag...

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by DL747400
Tue May 05, 2020 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United exercises options for 8 787-10s
Replies: 140
Views: 25092

Re: United exercises options for 7 787-10s

Can't help but wonder how and where UA is going to find the funds to pay for these new widebodies? :scratchchin:

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