I remember a few years ago Shanghai - Beijing accounted for half of the profits of China Eastern...
It's not only people are working in CBD, but also the most affluent live in the North East of the city, in dsitricts like Shunyi, close to PEK.
High chances this would be funded by the Chinese under the one road one belt policy.Jump to post
StTim wrote:DLHAM wrote:I think it depends on if Airline XY can fill the extra seats the 77X offers.
And actually how many of those extra seats need to be filled to get better profitability
The core of the short haul market is 150-250 seats. I don't see what Airbus is trying to achieve here. They should focus their resources on the products they have.Jump to post
Good it landed safely.
Air France seems to be trying very hard to break every Airbus aircraft types they had.
Not a lot of connecting from different countries but a lot from different states... I agree geography would anyway remain an issue. The traffic is split between east and west coast. The fact airlines cannot aggregate the traffic in one single point greatly limits the ability for US airlines to opera...Jump to post
Do Europeans complain about everything? The USA makes up about 40% of departures per day globally. It should be no surprise that it makes up a large percentage of the content as well. Other large markets like China are engineered and controlled by a regulator, so there isn't much to discuss. I also...Jump to post
Yes Technically speaking it's possible to satisfy everybody : some boards with subforums give the choice to display on the main page all the messages from all subforums or selected subforums only. I think more topics should remain displayed on page 1 (maybe 75 topics). Reduce the space between each ...Jump to post
I think every route is going from one point to another point ... or maybe you are talking about the "point to point" passengers (passengers who don't connect) ?
In that case UA and AA are already carrying a lot of point to point passengers. So I don't see the point you are trying to make...
People should not be surprised to see Turkish ordering very big aircraft. They have some of the largest connecting traffic waves in the world at IST. Contrary to the general feeling, adding frequencies is not the optimum solution. The A380 (especially second hand) would make more sense but the relat...Jump to post
I wonder what CAAC is trying to achieve here. On secondary long haul routes all airlines are losing money but the big carriers were compensating with more profitable flights from PEK & PVG. They want to increase international competition there but there is already extreme competition with airlin...Jump to post
We have "parked" some 787s as well... or maybe this was just about standard fleet management. These A380s are "early birds", probably not performing as good as the latest ones. With a standard seat configuration the seat cost is still the best and the ownership should be very low...Jump to post
What were you expecting? fares to Asia in general are crazy cheap and have been for awhile.. Part of it I call the A380 effect. If i want to connect through Korea I can go most places dirt cheap and I have. It has nothing to do with the A380. It's mostly because of Chinese airlines that are fightin...Jump to post
What counts is total ticket revenue for a flight vs the cost of the flight and upkeep cost. It is abundantly clear - that MH cannot operate the A380's at even break even cost on a routine bases. , "abundantly clear" they cannot operate the A380 at "even break even cost" and yet ...Jump to post
There is no evidence that the trend is toward so called "point to point". In particular since the rise of Internet. The relative success of the 787 versus the A380 is one example. Not to mention that the market generally shows a preference (ceteris paribus) for direct over indirect, which...Jump to post
It depends on what you mean by "sustainable." The long term trend is towards point-to-point travel, which naturally works against megahubs/connecting cities. Dubai, Abu Dhabi and to some extent Qatar are all working to make themselves more like Hongkong and Singapore (Dubai so far has bee...Jump to post
F100 is right, it's around 40% local. I think it's definitely sustainable for 3 main reasons: - First the current market shares of EK are still low (what makes them big is because they well connect thousands of O&Ds, not because they have high market shares on each O&D) - Secondly, around th...Jump to post
Like most US airlines (but more than the others) the twin aisles of AA are flying on medium ranges on average -but still need a lot of range for a handful of routes. For this network configuration A330neos make a lot of sense, in particular the -800. It's good to see a US airline looking at this air...Jump to post
Very few aviation analysts understood that EK was not a chance for the A380 program, but a main culprit for the lack of A380 sales. The "point to point" debate is irrelevant since the number of route openings per year is very stable. So this was certainly taken into account when deciding t...Jump to post
However, the trend with long haul flights seems to be more routes with smaller planes. The trend is also existing routes upgraded with bigger planes ... we have to be careful with averages -and- the fact there is a lot of publicity around routes being opened and much less around routes being shut o...Jump to post
Whatever the outcome of the investigation at the end the general public will only remember "french staff beating british passengers".Jump to post
Thanks Bestwestern. I would never consider HGH as 3rd airport of Shanghai, considering the distance between the two (1.25h bullet train rider or ~2h drive time via motorway). It's like calling Nagoya Airport the third airport of Osaka or Tokyo. Nagoya is really separated vs. Tokyo while Hangzhou is ...Jump to post
If true, the reaction of the airport worker is "understandable". That said, understandable does not make it right. Had the airport staff member kept his cool, this passenger would likely be facing assault charges instead of the staff member facing legal and employment repercussions. Agree...Jump to post
I would not consider Hangzhou as a secondary city. It's the 3rd airport of Shanghai. If one US airline can make it it's certainly UA from SFO. For the other US airlines if they really want to operate to the secondary cities with their own metal I think they would have been better of having a hub in ...Jump to post
Expect 2 or 3 exceptions, only Chinese carriers can make the transpacific secondary routes work - considering in many cases 2/3 of the trip cost can be subsidized for a period of at least 3 years. Yet US airlines are not that vocal like they are against the ME3. My guess it's because it's a new mark...Jump to post
There is a video on the SUN website. Before making judgment on the french etc. you should better watch it. Although the employee should be fired for losing control it is clear that it was the passenger who first attacked the employee physically.Jump to post
Agree with PanHam. When on many flights you have up to 80% of connecting traffic, you don't care that much which hub you are going through as long as the connecting banks are there. Lufthansa's strategy is to control the traffic, not let the traffic control the airline.Jump to post
Wasn't it recently send some of their newly minted A380s to storage due to overcapacity? With US and EU hitting them hard on subsidies/ tax preference 'accusation' and 'closing their skies', where are they are going to deploy those new 20 A380, if the rumour is indeed true? Even if they are meant f...Jump to post
VLAs are nothing but capacity dumping machines. It's a bit simplistic. When the regional jets have been replaced by the 737/A320s from the LCCs it could be been seen as "capacity dumping machines" . But the fact is LCCs are making greater profits with their "capacity dumping". H...Jump to post
It's a bit funny to see Boeing being the victim of the new so called "point to point" strategy of Lufthansa... A recent interview from LH's CEO clearly shows they are going to do more multi-hubs as the economy/yields from Germany allows that. 777-9X therefore becomes too big except maybe f...Jump to post
As a millennial myself Joon just comes across as Korean to me. . Yes, or Chinese (like Loong Air) Might as well just named the company iJoon if they wanted to continue "old man out of touch with youth trying to be cool" theme. My feeling as well. I fear many of these spin off airlines hav...Jump to post
Let me tell the essence: These problems only exist because the French side doesn't want to work significantly harder for the same pay. That's it. I think there are a lot of preconceived ideas. Studies from the OECD show the opposite : more working hours for the french and more productivity per hour...Jump to post
AMS is a better hub because it's smaller, not because it' more efficient (like MUC versus FRA). From my experience, the KLM crew is rude and the food is clearly well below average. I think all of this is based on a lot of preconceived idea. We have to be fair, connecting at CDG with AF is no longer ...Jump to post
11ab is interesting. The A380 when comparing with similar cabin layout already had the lowest seat cost. The marginal costs of these 11ab seats must be very low. It can be used as a sub class to compete against some ultra low costs airlines on certain markets.Jump to post
seahawk wrote:If you can serve the market better with an extra family and can sell 4000 frames it is worth it.
From the aviationweek article :" that it is not a single aircraft they are looking at, but a family with different range and seating versions" Yes it has to be a family, one type would not work. But still prefer to have a few sub optimized aircraft than having too much types to deal with. ...Jump to post
Matt6461 wrote:Be careful with taking "routes" as some exogenous, metaphysical fact to which airliners must respond. Looking at DXB-LHR in 2000, one surely would have said its pax numbers didn't justify 8x daily A380's.
As stated before many long haul aircraft aircraft in Asia do up to 3 short rotations between 2 long haul flights. Also the MoM would be too small in capacity to replace many of these twin aisles. Never forget the revenue part of the equation... The MoM could very well end up doing transatlantic kind...Jump to post
Boeing are doing the right thing in taking great care to ensure whatever they do launch, leaves Airbus with a real challenge in countering. The problem I see (and I guess, quite a few others), is that their target area is extremely small relative to most programs. For comparison the 787 program lau...Jump to post
The Boeing MOM keeps getting larger. It started out as a 757 replacement, but is now the size of the 787-8. And as they speak to airlines little doubt the seat count will further increase. We could read this as an acknowledgment that the 787 does not manage to shoot down the A330 on shorter segment...Jump to post