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by tropical
Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing website updated to match FR's Boeing 737MAX200 rename
Replies: 109
Views: 4804

Re: 737-8200?

I am not too sure rebranding is very effective when the product in question is safety related and the public is genuinely worried they might put themselves in danger by using it. Whether their concerns are justified or not, If someone is buying plane tickets and is genuinely afraid of flying on a MA...

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by tropical
Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing website updated to match FR's Boeing 737MAX200 rename
Replies: 109
Views: 4804

Re: 737-8200?

N14AZ wrote:
jeffrey0032j wrote:
On a less serious note, I don’t know why but the name reminds me somehow of Harry Potter’s broomstick Nimbus 2000…


Funnily enough the broomsticks in Harry Potter also have a tendency to pitch up...

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by tropical
Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:41 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why didn’t Delta order the 737 MAX?
Replies: 54
Views: 6301

Re: Why didn’t Delta order the 737 MAX?

https://simpleflying.com/delta-737-max-benefit/
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Interesting article on Simple Flying today not on why DL didn't order the MAX, but on the happy consequences (at the present time at least) of them not doing so:

https://simpleflying.com/delta-737-max-benefit/

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by tropical
Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 850
Views: 122633

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Given that the total costs of the grounding will run into billions (whatever the number of billions might end up being), Boeing continues to needlessly shoot itself in the foot by announcing a victims compensation fund of just $100m, which works out at less than 300k per passenger. I’m sure lawyers...

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by tropical
Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 850
Views: 122633

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Given that the total costs of the grounding will run into billions (whatever the number of billions might end up being), Boeing continues to needlessly shoot itself in the foot by announcing a victims compensation fund of just $100m, which works out at less than 300k per passenger. I’m sure lawyers ...

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by tropical
Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 850
Views: 122633

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Question to those with the technical know-how: putting aside the financial side of things for a moment, if instead of creating and installing MCAS Boeing had simply designed the MAX without it and opted to tackle the different handling characteristics of the model by requiring additional training fo...

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by tropical
Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:45 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?
Replies: 124
Views: 16621

Re: Airbus seeks to break Boeing/AIG deal

It's tit-for-tat stuff, and far from unprecedented. As we all know, Boeing just couldn't stomach the thought of the all-Airbus narrowbody order American Airlines was going to place back in 2011, and went to extraordinary lengths to sabotage the deal, with fateful consequences. One could also mention...

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by tropical
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The first Airbus A320 to break the 30-year in service mark
Replies: 81
Views: 18620

Re: The first Airbus A320 to break the 30-year in service mark

Several people have made reference to the increasing costs of HMVs as an airplane ages. My response: so what? Its still several tens of millions of dollars less than a new airplane and the engines/fuel burn are essentially unchanged comoared to a new CFM56 powered variant. I find myself wondering w...

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by tropical
Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Airbus pencils in orders for new A321XLR jet.
Replies: 197
Views: 44718

Re: Reuters: Airbus pencils in orders for new A321XLR jet.

Ultimately, it’s not as if the paying public will be able to do much about a possible proliferation of NB a/c on long haul anyway. In any case, public passenger opposition to it cannot be too strong or widespread, or the various 757 transatlantic routes in existence wouldn’t have lasted long. Speaki...

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by tropical
Wed May 29, 2019 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 453
Views: 42831

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

I wonder if other equally questionable statements made by A or B bosses over the years had/ would have resulted in as popular a thread as this one (or even merited a thread being created in the first place). The A380 really does seem to stir all kinds of emotions and ruffle feathers amongst A-netter...

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by tropical
Thu May 23, 2019 11:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 453
Views: 42831

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

it is funny that people that claim to be aviation enthusiasts are discussing this forever like bean counters. was 380 success? from our perspective? definitely. maybe not for some investors, but i dont really care. they wont die from it. was Concorde a success? definitely. was Apollo success? defin...

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by tropical
Wed May 22, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 453
Views: 42831

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

Wasn't there also a significant change in the price of aviation fuel between the time the A380 was conceived and the time it entered service? That might have played a part too...

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by tropical
Wed May 22, 2019 9:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 453
Views: 42831

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

In fact many people might argue that it is the *duty* of a company's representative to big up their products and try to make them sound as successful as possible, even when the truth lies elsewhere. You won't hear the CEO of Airbus claim the A380 is 'a failure' anymore than you'd hear the CEO of Bo...

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by tropical
Wed May 22, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 453
Views: 42831

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

Spinning any lie into being truth is the new normal now, whether it comes from Airbus or Boeing. It is the new way of doing business in the world tell them what they want to hear and for the most part it will be believed because it makes people feel good. And if you get called out for bending the t...

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by tropical
Wed May 22, 2019 4:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 453
Views: 42831

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

I think it is an industry success, and should demand comes back, Airbus would have the technological advantage over Boeing for VLAs. How? If the demand should come back after the line shuts down will Airbus start production again? No. What technological advantage will it have over a clean sheet des...

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by tropical
Wed May 22, 2019 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 453
Views: 42831

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

In a recent Airways Magazine article, it said Airbus saw a market for 1000 Airbus A380s. In the end, only about 250 of them will actually be delivered and flown by customers. I'd say that's falling short of the target goal. An engineering success? For sure. A technical success? Jury is out. A sales...

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by tropical
Wed May 22, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 453
Views: 42831

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

It will not be a direct commercial success, but there is far more than that when assessing the overall legacy success of a program and its benefit for the manufacturer. The A380 completed the portfolio of an aircraft manufacturer that went from not even existing a few decades prior, to one of the to...

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by tropical
Fri May 17, 2019 12:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 383206

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

I still do not understand why there is a discussion about training and pilot quality and possible errors in this thread. The recent NYT article had this quote from Boeing VP Mike Sinnett that answers your question: “The assumption is that the flight crews have been trained,” Mr. Sinnett said in the...

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by tropical
Sat May 11, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 383206

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

This is a surprise. Despite the problems, Boeing is not suffering badly as of yet. https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/04/13/boeing-crushes-airbus-q1-aircraft-orders-737-max.aspx Just a guess that Q1 was still a little too early for exposure to the unraveling of the bad news. Its good PR that, &quo...

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by tropical
Fri May 10, 2019 9:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Airlines to lease/buy up to 30 A321neo’s
Replies: 52
Views: 10693

Re: China Airlines to lease 14 A321NEO

Sorry, I do not believe this. A professional organization will not be led by feelings of temporary problems with the MAX8/9. It could perhaps more likely to be a covert message to the US government in relation to the ongoing trade dispute? The US just announced an increase of its trade tariffs on C...

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by tropical
Fri May 10, 2019 7:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Airlines to lease/buy up to 30 A321neo’s
Replies: 52
Views: 10693

Re: China Airlines to lease 14 A321NEO

Originally the decision is to be made between A320/NEO or MAX 8/MAX 9, but the recent crashes of the MAX has led to the NEO winning. Sorry, I do not believe this. A professional organization will not be led by feelings of temporary problems with the MAX8/9. It could perhaps more likely to be a cove...

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by tropical
Wed May 08, 2019 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767: Fuselage size always limited profitability??
Replies: 85
Views: 10299

Re: Boeing 767: Fuselage size always limited profitability??

The 767 is still being produced, the 757 is not. The 767 has outsold the 757 by nearly 200 units. Why does everyone still act like the 757 is god's gift to aviation? Just my own perception of course but I always got the impression that the 757 is so revered amongst airplane enthusiasts because of i...

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by tropical
Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2019 Orders
Replies: 182
Views: 52336

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2019 Orders

What intially seemed like a strong year (at least relative to the trend) for Boeing orders this 2019 reversed and plunged overnight with Jet folding, in addition to the obvious MAX order freeze. With around two-thirds of 2019 remaining, Boeing has enough time to make this year brighter than this - ...

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by tropical
Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Narrowbody vs widebody costs trans Atlantic
Replies: 58
Views: 9124

Re: Narrowbody vs widebody costs trans Atlantic

As narrowbodies become ever more commonplace in Trasatlantic routes in the coming years, I wonder if passenger preference will become a factor. Many passengers (me included) much prefer the extra space and the 'long haul feeling' of a WB bird for long haul flights, even if the seat pitch is exactly ...

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by tropical
Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 716625

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Whereas it is still possible that once the final report comes out it might rule human error might have been *partially* to blame (even though it is looking less likely by the day to me, but never mind that for now), surely it is beyond any doubt by now that Boeing will certainly shoulder a significa...

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by tropical
Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 714060

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

I don't think for a second that the MAX problems or possible design flaws are unsolvable. An effective software fix couple with additional sensor redundancy and comprehensive pilot training would almost certainly result in an a/c that is way more than adequately safe to operate, even if a bit less f...

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by tropical
Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?
Replies: 127
Views: 16835

Re: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?

Boeing had the new narrowbody in development farther down than today's NMA. It was nearing authority to offer decision. EIS was planned for 2018. Then, American issued RFP for replacement of 300 old aircraft, Airbus was winning it, Boeing panicked and rushed 737 reengine to meet 2016 EIS. The rest ...

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by tropical
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?
Replies: 188
Views: 21343

Re: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?

It happened to me last year when I flew to MAD on a late evening flight. I can't remember if it was with BA or Iberia Express though. There was certainly no lack of available bridges at the time. I was told later by a friend who works at the airport that such occurrences are usually down to a shorta...

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by tropical
Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 714060

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Someone explain to me a valid reason why we allow planes that aren't stable to be designed and approved in the first place? Why did Boeing choose to design an unstable aircraft? I think the answer is straightforward: they did not want to let Airbus' A320 gain and hold a decisive edge over the 737 f...

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by tropical
Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 594356

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

True. WN alone also flew 40,000 MAX flights 90,000+ hours before the grounding with no incidents. WN thinks its safe now. Just saying. So you agreeing with StTim that 90,000+ hrs is a trivial number and WN are bonkers? Praise the Lord. :bouncy: As has already been repeated in these forums; 90,000 h...

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by tropical
Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:06 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airbus response to Boeing's troubles
Replies: 16
Views: 3598

Re: Airbus response to Boeing's troubles

If the existing A320 assembly lines had plenty of available extra capacity left, or if a new plant could be planned and built from scratch in a year, A could benefit immensely. But that of course is not the case, and even if the ongoing MAX situation were to result in mass dissatisfaction in the mod...

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by tropical
Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 594356

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

This will probably seem a very basic/ stupid question to those of you with good knowledge of such matters (not to mention pilots etc), so apologies in advance. But I was wondering if runaway trim problems affect non-FBW aircraft only, or whether FBW planes can also experience such malfunctions?

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by tropical
Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 714060

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

I seem to remember reading that the procedure for MCAS failure (due to a faulty sensor for instance) is not only to switch it off but to keep it switched off for the remainder of the flight. If that is indeed the case, how much more vulnerable would the MAX be to experience a stall if it found itsel...

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by tropical
Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 714060

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Regardless of the financial cost, would it be technically viable to retrofit two extra AoA sensors on the MAX already built, and/or add them to those frames yet to be built? If so, perhaps Boeing should be forced to add the extra sensors as a condition for removing the grounding order.

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by tropical
Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 714060

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Will get interesting if the FAA rubberstamps the fix and other safety authorities in Europe, China etc. refuse to follow suit.... On the one hand you could understand if other safety agencies wish to conduct their own assessment to ensure the fix is comprehensive enough. As an aside, the argument c...

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by tropical
Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 714060

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

It is possible and perhaps likely the investigation concludes the flying or ground crew in one or both crashes might be partially to blame. But if MACS was indeed involved, there is absolutely no outcome in which Boeing is not partially to blame also. If a system is so critical it can make a plane u...

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by tropical
Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 441
Views: 131870

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

That is one fantastically good-looking bird, it's got to be said!

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by tropical
Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:43 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Norwegian check-in at MAD: what a mess
Replies: 4
Views: 1683

Norwegian check-in at MAD: what a mess

First off I should make clear that I don't blame Norwegian for this. I suspect they might have little control over it and are as unhappy as us passengers. I was very surprised when my flight from MAD to LGW yesterday was said to depart to T2. That terminal had always been exclusively used for domest...

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by tropical
Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IndiGo mulls up to 25 A321LR aircaft
Replies: 36
Views: 6199

Re: IndiGo mulls up to 25 A321LR aircaft

It's been said many times already but damn... how good this bird looks with the raccoon eyes!

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by tropical
Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Emirates firms up order for up to 36 additional A380s
Replies: 494
Views: 61391

Re: Emirates signs a commitment for 36 additional A380's

Congratulations to Airbus and I am very happy for the employees. Some people say that this isn't a big order, but when you consider the size of the A380, it is still quite an achievement. I think the implications of the order are what makes it significant: a vote of confidence in the programme; a s...

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by tropical
Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters:Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
Replies: 695
Views: 88720

Re: Reuters:Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal

Fantastic news :)

I look forward to views and reactions from A.netters cross the Pond as they wake up the the story. There might be a few mouthfuls of cereal flying across breakfast tables.

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by tropical
Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways and the 767
Replies: 100
Views: 23481

Re: British Airways and the 767

I flew to MAD over Xmas and BA used a 767 on both legs. And for the return flight we were in a long haul configured bird as well. I was most pleasantry suprised, as we were forward enough to get premium economy seats. Club Europe passengers also got a nice surprise as they got Club World seats. We ...

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by tropical
Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways and the 767
Replies: 100
Views: 23481

Re: British Airways and the 767

Interesting timing to raise the question, as the last 767s will leave the fleet during 2018. Once they had 28 of them, 7 were sold to Qantas early on, and in latter years the 21 remaining were split into 14 configured for long/midhaul and 7 European/domestic. The long/mid haul examples were indeed ...

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by tropical
Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus Working With Emirates on New Order for Flagship A380
Replies: 948
Views: 707547

Re: Airbus Working With Emirates on New Order for Flagship A380

The overal capacity of the plane is quite irrelevant to the comfort or overall experience by passengers in Y class anyway. There are a number of partitions along the cabin dividing it into smaller sections, and it doesn’t look any different or more daunting than on any other widebody models.

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by tropical
Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus Working With Emirates on New Order for Flagship A380
Replies: 948
Views: 707547

Re: Airbus Working With Emirates on New Order for Flagship A380

A380 is the most consumer friendly aircraft out there today. There are no other airliner i'd rather be sitting on for a 14 hour flight. The hate this aircraft gets is unbelievable to me. A number of people think it is the wrong aircraft, or inferior to competing aircraft, or not as good at its job ...

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by tropical
Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breaking: Heathrow 3rd Runway approved
Replies: 200
Views: 19568

Re: Breaking: Heathrow 3rd Runway approved

Other than the NIMBY brigades, is there a reason we can't have new runways on both LHR and LGW?

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by tropical
Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways intends to introduce BOB catering in Jan 2017
Replies: 108
Views: 18830

Re: British Airways intends to introduce BOB catering in Jan 2017

Here's one thought though: I'm a regular on the LGW-BOD BA flight. One of the reasons for taking BA being that I know I won't have to take my wallet out after paying for the flight. Why would I spend more on a BA flight when EasyJet basically offers the same level of service? While this is my perso...

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by tropical
Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus Considers Split Level Layout For A350-1000
Replies: 71
Views: 26353

RE: Airbus Considers Split Level Layout For A350-1000

In these sad times we live in, I wonder if there might be any security concerns regarding passengers being potentially alone on a different deck to everyone else. Could they do any serious damage if intent on mischief? Would there be a need for a crew member to be present in the lower deck whenever ...

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by tropical
Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair Via Berlin Cheaper Than UK Rail Trip
Replies: 51
Views: 14077

RE: Ryanair Via Berlin Cheaper Than UK Rail Trip

Many 'walk-in' train fares in the UK can cost several hundred Pounds for a one-way ticket. If one can book in advance and travel outside of peak hours, prices are not too bad, but otherwise the UK has some of the most expensive fares in the world, and at times so ludicrously high it can be cheaper t...

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