Just to clarify, AA does not own T8. They are a lease holder, not an owner And? This is a very, very old lease. It does not contain a gate-usage provision. In order to add a gate-usage provision, the PA would have to pay the outstanding debt on the terminal, including any debt related to the ongoin...Jump to post
https://crankyflier.com/2020/07/13/jetblue-leaves-a-bad-situation-in-long-beach-for-something-worse-at-lax/ In case anyone is wondering. Based on this part. "Scott explained that JetBlue had wanted to make this move for a long time. It just couldn’t get more than the 2.5 gates it uses at LAX t...Jump to post
That's the curious part. It seems the best case scenario for them is to stay in T5 to be competitive with big 4 + AS, rather than be in a far off terminal. But if they stay in T5, then that would basically mean the other ULCCs are moving out and AA is not getting more gates. I had a theory that AA ...Jump to post
Ah, ok. Because in the satellite view provided above it looks like a tunnel is being built just north of the TBIT headhouse that goes straight into T3 and all the way out to the MSC. That could give Delta some nice gate access. What you see there is the "Far East Tunnel." It is a tunnel f...Jump to post
sabby wrote:LHR-BLR is O&D heavy. So much so that AI added a non-stop and BA are upgrading to A35K. These in addition to ME carriers who keep taking a significant numbers to EU/NA. I think SQ and CX along with EK will feel the most impact of this non-stop.
blink182 wrote:I'm curious about is what this will do to BA's own LHR-BLR flight? Surely high yields from the west coast are going to go to AA?
atlflyer wrote:In the LAWA 2019 Year in Review, it states T6 Modernization will begin shortly. Anyone know any further details? I was unaware it would receive more improvements.
RightRudder wrote:There would be a class action within hours If this would of been over Orange County.
RightRudder wrote:All of the elementary school faculties and children's parents should sue the heck out of Delta. Not to mention all the effected neighborhoods.
And you would be recalling incorrectly. Once the entire project including phased demolition and complete reconstruction of T3 has been completed, DL will have 27 gates in T2/T3 plus a direct connection behind security, providing them with access to additional gates at TBIT as well on a Preferred us...Jump to post
Unless a change of plan occurs within the next 2 - 3 years, MSC South is where AA Eagle will operate from. AA also proposed more T5 gates (as a replacement for the Eagle facility). From what I understand, there is no agreement yet. With the proper extension of the MSC South, AA was expecting to get...Jump to post
LAX-Sky Way once completed will be big for DL, as it will allow DL to hold the most # of gates at LAX if I remember correctly. With the expansion, I see DL making a play for some of the larger routes like LAX-Chicago/South Florida/Houston/Philadelphia (None of which will be easy), and then some mid...Jump to post
Not really sure what you're going on about, but the originally advertised design actually looked like this: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQcWmVMi_tt3X158iNHRpV68JVHqZ228U9e3aXCjqd3afsjgjeLsg This should be obvious. That's a concept plan based on the design by Pelli. In the w...Jump to post
There will not be ceiling tiles over TSA or the two concession areas, this is confirmed. This is beyond embarrassing, to spend 1 Billion dollars on a new terminal and value engineer the ceiling so it looks like a Costco. CMAR projects always under deliver on with design because the construction man...Jump to post
Statement from AA: "Further, this change in partnership is not expected to have a significant financial impact to American, as the current relationship provided less than $20 million of incremental revenue to American, and the proposed joint business without Chile would have provided limited u...Jump to post
The more interesting part of the announcement are the images of the new T4/T5 at LAX. Awhile back, AA released a video with the design, but pulled it. In the video promoting the new sponsorship, the design remains the same. Hopefully, AA follows through. https://www.therams.com/video/american-airlin...Jump to post
At first this did seem kind of odd, but after reading over their reasoning it actually sounds like a pretty good idea. They can basically use it as a new home for everyone currently in T5 (Spirit, Jetblue, Allegiant, Hawaiian) which would allow a quicker transfer of the remainder of T5 facilities t...Jump to post
3 gates are currently out of service due to MSC construction. One question I have is if/when the north end of TBIT will finally be built out once the MSC is done and the bus terminal for the remote gates is no longer needed. A baggage sorting and storage building was built in its place, the place o...Jump to post
Interesting item for consideration at the next LAWA board meeting for July 18. They are proposing making 4 gates at the MSC multi apron ramp system (MARS) gates for either one group V or two group III aircraft at a time. Document says LAWA anticipates 3 international carriers will have most of thei...Jump to post
Boof02671 wrote:Totally different situation and APA never paid AA one penny.
They can fine the hell out of the union. That still doesn't stop AA mechanics from working slowly if they so choose to do. Not just the "hell out of the union," but insolvency. Would the threat of insolvency (for the union) make the AA mechanics work faster? Years ago, that is what a judg...Jump to post
Hawaiian's position seems reasonable: No domestic baggage claim at TBIT, There is a domestic baggage claim at TBIT. EY uses that since passengers are pre-cleared at AUH. The Hawaiian argument is that there is no domestic baggage claim in TBIT or MSC for Hawaiian's use. Instead, check-in and baggage...Jump to post
I would need to see what is in Hawaiian’s contract with LAWA before I know what each party ‘needs’ to do. It is a non-signatory airline with no preferential gate rights. Technically, LAWA can force Hawaiian to move. But Hawaiian could also sue LAWA and hold up the progress on any projects (e.g., T9...Jump to post
Hawaiian unhappy about the direction of developments at LAX: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/hawaiian-alleges-discriminatory-treatment-at-lax-458595/ V/F Hawaiian can and should force LAWA to subsidize its rent at the MSC or find gates elsewhere. LAWA needs the gates at T5 to replace the...Jump to post
One more look. ... Still ugly.Jump to post
In the morning light, it still looks ugly...Jump to post
The titles look wrong - the color provides no dimension against a Euro-white background.
The globe (tail) looks generic --- boxy and inert.
The wavy cheatline looks like an afterthought. What color is it? It should have been the same color as the globe for the sake of coherence.
If this is it, it reminds me of the packaging the Ralphs grocery store used in the 80's for their generic line of products.
Not looking good.
Op-Ed with the opinion that United offers the best opportunity and public benefit for use of HND slots as its proposing to operate 3 additional frequencies, not just shift existing service from NRT to HND. https://atwonline.com/airports-routes/op-ed-united-offers-biggest-opportunity-new-tokyo-route...Jump to post
Flight Global has story with a bit more detail. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/lax-plans-concourse-0-and-terminal-9-expansions-457251/ LAWA spokesperson says both new facilities would be operational prior to 2028 Olympics. Show me the money. Show me the the time. Terminal projects take ...Jump to post
“An American spokesman says the airline is working with LAWA on plans to relocate its regional facility that would be demolished to make room for terminal” “The 12-gate Terminal 9 would rise east of Sepulveda Boulevard on land occupied by hangars and a regional concourse used by American. The 109,4...Jump to post
So both AA and Dl cannot be too happy that WN and UA are getting 11 and 12 gates added to their existing ones. Now that this is out, I would imagine that both will be complaining they are geographically restricted from additional expansion and need more gates to compete. 3...2....1 WN and UA are no...Jump to post
You’re is from 2014, mine is more current Really? The footnote appears in the Notice for Prep that came out today . The footnote is consistent with what was said in the LAWA Board Meeting. The Eagle facility stays intact until it is no longer needed. It will no longer be needed once AA's Eagle ops ...Jump to post
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AA is giving up the Eagle’s Nest by 2024 and the hangar and a new hangar will be built. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/american-set-to-begin-lax-terminal-redevelopment-450127/ AA is not giving up the Eagle Terminal by 2024. That article is wrong. See the LAWA Board Meeting at the 1:35 m...Jump to post
I would bet money on these 10 getting picked: AA: DFW1, LAX DL: SEA, DTW, ATL, PDX HA: HNL1 UA: EWR, ORD, IAD Then it gets interesting. By process of elimination, there are 9 bids for the last 2 spots. I would guess: - DL's HNL#1 eliminates HA's HNL#2 & HNL#3, because if the DOT awards any more...Jump to post
Helmut Jahn is this generation's Frank Lloyd Wright - he work is cherished the world over (and several of his works are in the process of getting landmarked), and will be for generations to come. Many people walk through T1 never really appreciating it, but there are many people who do... architect...Jump to post
I'll buy the mug from you ;) I agree with everything you said. Because I am designer, T1 played a big role in why I am so loyal to United. Every time I step into that building, whether it be leaving for a trip or coming back home, the magnificent space makes me glow inside. T1 and Rhapsody in Blue....Jump to post
Equating “the gays” with Liberace, lavender boa, and cosmos isn’t stereotyping? This gay begs to differ. Not into any of those yet I’m “a gay’. I think you are over-reading. He was suggesting that "the gays" would be in on the joke. The joke is that the male FA uniform looks like somethin...Jump to post
ORD just does an awful upkeep of the facilities in general. The outside of T1 is a perfect example. After years of not cleaning the metal panels on the sides and roof, they are black! My guess is they can no longer be cleaned. If they would have been cleaned once a year, they might not have that is...Jump to post
The male FA uniform looks like something Liberace would wear as a flight attendant. I’m sure The Gays are going to get a good chuckle out of seeing The Straights wearing that uniform. Gurl just needs to accessorize with a lavender boa and she’ll be ready for the Polaris Cocktail Service. Cosmos? Co...Jump to post
What UA lacks in the deep South they make up for in the West. Two geographic and economic crown jewels; DEN is the de facto 'capital' of the intermountain region and SFO is....well...SFO (even with operational issues). If I remember correctly, it's $300 million. That was the amount Smisek associate...Jump to post
Frankly, the only way to ensure traffic is always free flowing in the horseshoe is congestion pricing. And US politicians in general are deathly afraid of implementing this tried and proven tool to manage traffic volume. Metro has already floated the idea to pay for all the 2028 transit projects. I...Jump to post
You are looking at it the wrong way - don't forget that the structure being built is about 50% more square footage than in the original design. You can't simply scale it up. Some things have to be re-engineered and of course keeping the costs low is always a requirement. It's easy to create column ...Jump to post
Not sure how you can judge intricacy of design from a very poor quality photo There is a lot you can tell. For example, compare Pelli's rendering of the central atrium/skylight with the check-in desks (left) to the construction photo of the same view. Pelli designed a column-free space. But that's ...Jump to post
As a frequent Delta passenger I see exciting artist depictions of what the Terminal 2 and 3 rebuild will look like in the coming years. But judging from the recent holiday traffic around the LAX horseshoe this past Christmas and New Years, how can a plan for a people mover and a new Metro Line stat...Jump to post
LAX772LR wrote:Twilight shot of the new terminal by a member of the NOLA Spotters Fbook page.
First time I've seen it all lit up, including the garage, excluding the international concourse. Beautiful!
Can someone fill me in on the status of the Studies that have been mentioned in the last LAWA BOAC meeting? I had no idea the following studies were budgeted - -Terminal 9 Initial Planning (NASIP) -Terminal 1 East Initial Planning (NASIP) -TBIT Optimization Program Initial Planning -T2 FIS Moderniz...Jump to post