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by PVG
Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: AA To Feature Enhanced Business Class For Upcoming 787-8s
Replies: 35
Views: 7141

Re: Rumor: AA To Feature Enhanced Business Class For Upcoming 787-8s

Will AA refit the Zodiac seats off the other aircraft? Some product consistency would help. I wish the US3 would put proper curtains back on their aircraft- block out the galley light! Realistically curtains don’t make an aircraft any less safe once a person of threat is onboard.... I recently flew...

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by PVG
Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: AA drops ORD-PEK/PVG, reduces NRT
Replies: 684
Views: 119358

Re: UPDATED: AA drops ORD-PEK/PVG, reduces NRT

What if AA wet leased CX crew and equipment for a route like this? CX could probably earn better yields and also rotate aircraft for their HKG routes more efficiently. Anyone think that they could pull that off?

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by PVG
Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA Union Blames Meltdown on IT Outsourcing to India
Replies: 128
Views: 17671

Re: BA Union Blames Meltdown on Indian Workers

Lower costs for BA = Lower ticket prices for you. More like: Lower costs for BA (or any other major) = more profit to please the shareholders= new fees, lower service due to cut costs, but somehow explained to the public as "economy minus" Or= Fewer people in the UK employed at well payin...

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by PVG
Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350 in service thread - 2015-2017
Replies: 1036
Views: 188524

Re: A350 In Service Thread - Part 3

Honestly disappointing ride on SQ. To me it seems like an 777NG. I guess that it is operationally more efficient, but from a passenger standpoint, nothing special to say. When comparing the 777 from SQ and CX the A350 will be a disappointment as they will have less space in the cabin for the same a...

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by PVG
Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350 in service thread - 2015-2017
Replies: 1036
Views: 188524

Re: A350 In Service Thread - Part 3

Honestly disappointing ride on SQ. To me it seems like an 777NG. I guess that it is operationally more efficient, but from a passenger standpoint, nothing special to say.

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by PVG
Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific profits plunge 82% amid fierce competition
Replies: 60
Views: 14464

Re: Cathay Pacific profits plunge 82% amid fierce competition

For one, CX charges over the top prices for people based in HK. I only fly them for work now, as I find flying home for Christmas or holidays much cheaper on Emirates, Asiana, United and Air Canada. The service is good, but you can see the cutbacks in the meals, especially in the tray, quality, and...

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by PVG
Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Xiamen Airlines Applies For US Service (SEA & JFK)
Replies: 39
Views: 8243

RE: Xiamen Airlines Applies For US Service (SEA & JFK)

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/GCT64" class="quote" target="_blank">GCT64</a> (<a href="#35" class="quote">Reply 35</a>):<br/><i>I am surprised, and somewhat disappointed, tha...

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by PVG
Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thai Airways, The 787, And LAX- Why Not?
Replies: 51
Views: 9592

RE: Thai Airways, The 787, And LAX- Why Not?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/LAXintl" class="quote" target="_blank">LAXintl</a> (<a href="#7" class="quote">Reply 7</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> Why not? Even if ...

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by PVG
Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thai Airways, The 787, And LAX- Why Not?
Replies: 51
Views: 9592

Thai Airways, The 787, And LAX- Why Not?

Wouldn't it make some sense for <acronym title="Thai International (Thailand)">TG</acronym> to switch to the one world alliance and feed North American traffic to <acronym title="Cathay Pacific (China-Hong Kong)">CX</acronym> and JAL and European to <acronym title="Qatar Airways">QR</acronym>? With ...

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by PVG
Mon May 11, 2015 10:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Former "Obama Pilot" Slams TK
Replies: 44
Views: 17059

RE: Former "Obama Pilot" Slams TK

I flew TK twice last week and for the first time. The onboard service was ok. I will say that the safety culture was not what you experience on other airlines. I honestly will have to think twice before I would fly with them again.

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by PVG
Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Dossier: QR Considered Shutdown In 2009!
Replies: 171
Views: 21085

RE: US Dossier: QR Considered Shutdown In 2009!

If there weren't chapter 11 laws, Continental, United, Northwest, and US Airways would have went out of business many years ago. American and Delta would have survived and picked up the pieces. Jetblue and Southwest or a new competitor starting from scratch sans legacy costs would probably be flying...

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by PVG
Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific To Seattle?
Replies: 39
Views: 13604

RE: Cathay Pacific To Seattle?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/blrsea" class="quote" target="_blank">blrsea</a> (<a href="#34" class="quote">Reply 34</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> They could also t...

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by PVG
Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific To Launch Dusseldorf
Replies: 58
Views: 15151

RE: Cathay Pacific To Launch Dusseldorf

I think that DUS is the mid-west of Germany. Alot of steel making and associated specialty industries (foundries, auto parts etc..) are based in that area, or within a 1 hour/90 minute drive.

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by PVG
Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SAA Gets Another Round Of State Aid
Replies: 34
Views: 4595

RE: SAA Gets Another Round Of State Aid

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/AirNiugini" class="quote" target="_blank">AirNiugini</a> (<a href="#27" class="quote">Reply 27</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> I think t...

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by PVG
Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CX- 2 New Destinations 2015
Replies: 89
Views: 18521

RE: CX- 2 New Destinations 2015

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Kashmon" class="quote" target="_blank">Kashmon</a> (<a href="#53" class="quote">Reply 53</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> There's no doub...

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by PVG
Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CX- 2 New Destinations 2015
Replies: 89
Views: 18521

RE: CX- 2 New Destinations 2015

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/mfe777" class="quote" target="_blank">mfe777</a> (<a href="#14" class="quote">Reply 14</a>):<br/><i><acronym title="Linea Aerea IAACA-LAI (Venez...

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by PVG
Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta: Red Wine In Tetra Pak (Yuk..)
Replies: 198
Views: 21772

RE: Delta: Red Wine In Tetra Pak (Yuk..)

it's the reason why the U.S. Is the most competitive industrial nation at the moment. Someone at <acronym title="Delta Air Lines (USA)">DL</acronym> figured out that they save "x" amount of weight by getting rid of glass bottles. It's the same if you stay at a holiday inn type hotel in the US, they ...

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by PVG
Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Is DFW-HKG/PVG Doing?
Replies: 32
Views: 6183

RE: How Is DFW-HKG/PVG Doing?

I took the <acronym title="CURRENT: Hong Kong - International (Chek Lap Kok) (HKG / VHHH), China - Hong Kong AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG</acronym>/<acronym title="Dallas / Fort Worth - International (DFW / KDFW), USA - Texas">DFW</acronym>...

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by PVG
Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Is DFW-HKG/PVG Doing?
Replies: 32
Views: 6183

RE: How Is DFW-HKG/PVG Doing?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/LAXdude1023" class="quote" target="_blank">LAXdude1023</a> (<a href="#15" class="quote">Reply 15</a>):<br/><i>If <acronym title="American Airlin...

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by PVG
Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pilot Fundraiser For Life Saving Cathay Passenger
Replies: 9
Views: 3785

RE: Pilot Fundraiser For Life Saving Cathay Passenger

this is very typical of CX. The on board experience is second to none, the customer service experience on the ground is often very poor. It often feels like I'm dealing with robots!

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by PVG
Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jetstar Hong Kong Might Never Fly
Replies: 93
Views: 12587

RE: Jetstar Hong Kong Might Never Fly

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/TimTam" class="quote" target="_blank">TimTam</a> (<a href="#19" class="quote">Reply 19</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> Air China is a ma...

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by PVG
Tue May 06, 2014 4:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CX Union: "Uniforms Are Too Sexy"
Replies: 21
Views: 22352

RE: CX Union: "Uniforms Are Too Sexy"

I'm on <acronym title="Cathay Pacific (China-Hong Kong)">CX</acronym> several times a month. I never even noticed this issue until I read it in the newspaper the other day. If the employees are uncomfortable with the uniform, then the company should accommodate. I don't see that it would be a big de...

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by PVG
Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CX Placed An Order For 21 777-9X
Replies: 226
Views: 39354

RE: CX Placed An Order For 21 777-9X

Wouldn't they benefit from a small fleet of say 20 787’s to serve some smaller markets non-stop? Say Zurich, Munich, Milan, Manchester, Stockholm or Copenhagen? It seems to me that is something that they can try to counter some the ME competition.

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by PVG
Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SAA To Announce Fleet Renewal Plan Soon
Replies: 35
Views: 13873

RE: SAA To Announce Fleet Renewal Plan Soon

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/KarelXWB" class="quote" target="_blank">KarelXWB</a> (<a href="#9" class="quote">Reply 9</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> No, it means th...

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by PVG
Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Trend In Business Class Seat
Replies: 32
Views: 15996

RE: The Trend In Business Class Seat

It sounds like you were in the old seats. The new seats offer more space and if you sit in the center rows, the seats are joined so can talk to your family/ friends if you want.

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by PVG
Sat May 25, 2013 4:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aboulafia: Airbus The More Reliable Jet Maker
Replies: 48
Views: 15033

RE: Aboulafia: Airbus The More Reliable Jet Maker

"The A350XWB’s success is more than just Airbus taking advantage of Boeing’s misfortunes. Instead, it represents a return to form for the European jetliner, which had lost a decade with its futile pursuit of the tiny superjumbo market. After over a dozen years of trying, the 500-seat A380 has garner...

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by PVG
Mon May 13, 2013 5:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SAA New CEO; Cash Running Out; Seeks Turn-around
Replies: 56
Views: 9775

RE: SAA New CEO; Cash Running Out; Seeks Turn-around

They put the former head of the power utility in charge? I suggest that we google "ESKOM" and you'll see what a mess that company is as well. The problem is incompetent government lead cronyism! All industries in <acronym title="South African Airways">SA</acronym> that are government run/owned lose ...

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by PVG
Sun May 12, 2013 2:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Would Cathay Ever Start A Latin America Route?
Replies: 78
Views: 11671

RE: Would Cathay Ever Start A Latin America Route?

I think that they should seriously look at <acronym title="CURRENT: Hong Kong - International (Chek Lap Kok) (HKG / VHHH), China - Hong Kong AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG</acronym>/<acronym title="Johannesburg - OR Tambo International (Jan S...

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by PVG
Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: GoGo Wi-Fi Gets More Money To Stay On Air
Replies: 42
Views: 8639

RE: GoGo Wi-Fi Gets More Money To Stay On Air

I've used it several times and it is incredibly convenient and efficient to have Internet on a flight. What I would try is to give it to say <acronym title="Delta Air Lines (USA)">DL</acronym> for free and have them offer it is as a free service on all flights where the plane is equipped. That will ...

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by PVG
Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas And Emirates- And So It Begins
Replies: 126
Views: 27941

RE: Qantas And Emirates- And So It Begins

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Lofty" class="quote" target="_blank">Lofty</a> (<a href="#26" class="quote">Reply 26</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> I fly a lot like ma...

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by PVG
Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dragonair (KA) Rebranding?
Replies: 36
Views: 11871

RE: Dragonair (KA) Rebranding?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/CX+Flyboy" class="quote" target="_blank">CX Flyboy</a> (<a href="#15" class="quote">Reply 15</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> They've nee...

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by PVG
Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Crying Flight Crew Leads To Panic
Replies: 52
Views: 24262

RE: Crying Flight Crew Leads To Panic

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/smws" class="quote" target="_blank">smws</a> (<a href="#34" class="quote">Reply 34</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> Fireman working in Ne...

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by PVG
Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Crying Flight Crew Leads To Panic
Replies: 52
Views: 24262

RE: Crying Flight Crew Leads To Panic

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/smws" class="quote" target="_blank">smws</a> (<a href="#32" class="quote">Reply 32</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> all true. Except that...

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by PVG
Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Crying Flight Crew Leads To Panic
Replies: 52
Views: 24262

RE: Crying Flight Crew Leads To Panic

I was on an Air China 747 flight many years ago landing at the old Kai Tak airport in Hong Kong. The weather changed drastically on the approach and I could see from the window that we were going to miss the runway after that sharp turn that they used to make there. I'm not sure, but I'd estimate th...

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by PVG
Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rave Reviews For Boeings 787
Replies: 122
Views: 31844

RE: Rave Reviews For Boeings 787

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/imiakhtar" class="quote" target="_blank">imiakhtar</a> (<a href="#73" class="quote">Reply 73</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> Are you kid...

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by PVG
Fri May 25, 2012 8:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ Flights To JNB - Money Maker?
Replies: 26
Views: 8111

RE: SQ Flights To JNB - Money Maker?

This flight is almost always full and sold at close to full fare most of the time whenever I've looked at it. I think that they make money with the route. I avoid it because of the seat. I have a friend who uses <acronym title="Qatar Airways">QR</acronym> frequently, he tells me that their fares are...

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by PVG
Fri May 25, 2012 7:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA A318 London-New York Private Flight?
Replies: 36
Views: 21223

RE: BA A318 London-New York Private Flight?

Do you think that they'll ever allow this flight to go LCY/LGA? Since it clears immigration in Ireland,it should be doable?

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by PVG
Thu May 10, 2012 3:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA Club World - Tired And Dated
Replies: 45
Views: 12943

RE: BA Club World - Tired And Dated

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/sq_ek_freak" class="quote" target="_blank">sq_ek_freak</a> (<a href="#19" class="quote">Reply 19</a>):<br/><i>I agree it ain't cheap but I don't...

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by PVG
Wed May 09, 2012 10:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA Club World - Tired And Dated
Replies: 45
Views: 12943

RE: BA Club World - Tired And Dated

They really need to do something, I've decided to avoid BA. The product is seriously dated and it ain't cheap!

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by PVG
Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Announces More Employee Cuts, Station Changes
Replies: 70
Views: 19061

RE: AA Announces More Employee Cuts, Station Changes

I was on an <acronym title="American Airlines (USA)">AA</acronym> domestic flight the other day out of <acronym title="Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX), USA - California">LAX</acronym>. I have to say that the employees seem to be taking this process well and I didn't notice any attitude dire...

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by PVG
Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Long Will The Jury Be Out On The 747-8i?
Replies: 54
Views: 20957

RE: How Long Will The Jury Be Out On The 747-8i?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Stitch" class="quote" target="_blank">Stitch</a> (<a href="#47" class="quote">Reply 47</a>):<br/><i>When <acronym title="Lufthansa (Germany)">LH...

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by PVG
Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Long Will The Jury Be Out On The 747-8i?
Replies: 54
Views: 20957

RE: How Long Will The Jury Be Out On The 747-8i?

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 37): Where does the A380 fit into this? I thought it also had the same trip costs as the 744. Boeing says the 747-8 is more economical than the A380 and Airbus says the A380 is more economical than the 747-8, which is what you'd expect them to say.   <acronym title="Lu...

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by PVG
Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas And China Eastern To Launch Jetstar HK
Replies: 68
Views: 14939

RE: Qantas And China Eastern To Launch Jetstar HK

CX already faces low cost competition into China; the Chinese airlines. They seem to be holding just fine. Why MU feels that they more competition is beyond me?

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by PVG
Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will UAL Upgrade EWR-LHR?
Replies: 100
Views: 13445

RE: Will UAL Upgrade EWR-LHR?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/ORDJOE" class="quote" target="_blank">ORDJOE</a> (<a href="#20" class="quote">Reply 20</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> I think that the ...

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by PVG
Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will UAL Upgrade EWR-LHR?
Replies: 100
Views: 13445

RE: Will UAL Upgrade EWR-LHR?

BA service is not better than UA anymore. I fly them several times a year, there is no validity to that claim.

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by PVG
Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Etihad Airways To Terminate CPT
Replies: 24
Views: 10858

RE: Etihad Airways To Terminate CPT

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/leftyboarder" class="quote" target="_blank">leftyboarder</a> (<a href="#14" class="quote">Reply 14</a>):<br/><i>I might be repeating myself, but...

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by PVG
Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United From Newark To Rio De Janerio
Replies: 55
Views: 12379

RE: United From Newark To Rio De Janerio

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/SCL767" class="quote" target="_blank">SCL767</a> (<a href="#13" class="quote">Reply 13</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> I thought that <a...

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by PVG
Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United From Newark To Rio De Janerio
Replies: 55
Views: 12379

RE: United From Newark To Rio De Janerio

With AA in bankruptcy, shouldn't UA look at expanding MIA again?

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by PVG
Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why So Few B747-8 Orders?
Replies: 71
Views: 30879

RE: Why So Few B747-8 Orders?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/lightsaber" class="quote" target="_blank">lightsaber</a> (<a href="#16" class="quote">Reply 16</a>):<br/><i>Without the A389, there is a larger ...

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by PVG
Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA/AMR Market Cap Now Below $1B
Replies: 186
Views: 22372

RE: AA/AMR Market Cap Now Below $1B

I just read in the <acronym title="Fly FTI">FT</acronym> that only 8% of AMR's debt is unsecured. So, bankruptcy would not really help them much other than to get the unions to agree to concessions. Bankruptcy would most likely have them being taken apart and sold off in pieces. I think that it migh...

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