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by columba
Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 1048
Views: 321480

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023

The new branding was promised for over a year. Nothing ever happened. I'd speculate about something like "Lufthansa Discover" or "Discover by Lufthansa" being the final intended branding. Could the dispute be about using Lufthansa name or logo elements for discover? LH have a tr...

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by columba
Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 1048
Views: 321480

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023

There 's a piece in Flight this week (behind paywall) talking about possible further acquisitions of short- and medium-range freighters. One would have thought this might mean A321 and A333 conversions respectively, as the heading says "no new widebodies". I can't see them going for 767s ...

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by columba
Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 1048
Views: 321480

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023

https://www.cityairlines.de/en/home.html
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Lufthansa is about to launch a new airlines based in Munich to support their European network named City Airlines
Website :
https://www.cityairlines.de/en/home.html

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by columba
Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 913
Views: 316659

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Apparently LH has changed its first 787 destination instead of Toronto the first long haul flight will go to Newark

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by columba
Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 913
Views: 316659

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Official press release: https://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/newsroom/releases/first-lufthansa-boeing-787-arrives-in-frankfurt.html On which domestic routes out of FRA will the first 787 be deployed for training purposes the coming period? According to the captain interviewed on Instagram it will be F...

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by columba
Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 913
Views: 316659

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

The first 787 just landed in FRA...very happy to see LH flying a new Boeing model. Always happy landings!!

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by columba
Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 913
Views: 316659

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Any news when LH will receive their first 787?

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by columba
Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Condor News and Discussion Thread 2022
Replies: 244
Views: 58381

Re: Condor News and Discussion Thread 2022

There are reports saying that Condor might place an order for 40 A320NEO family aircraft in Farnborough.

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by columba
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 913
Views: 316659

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Surprised Lufthansa dragged their feet on the A350s that were available from SU and Qatar.. Don't know how many are left after the TK and pending AI deals.. At the very least they could have placed them with Swiss so they could retire their A340s. Bringing in 777Ws makes little since at these high ...

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by columba
Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 913
Views: 316659

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

I think the A380 is more likely than fresh 77Ws… Don´t think so...A380 would be a logistal nightmare and a stand alone type. 77W could be operate with 787s, 777-900s as well as the LH Cargo and Swiss. If the price is right I think from a business point of view 77W make more sense for LH than a coup...

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by columba
Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 913
Views: 316659

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Well, I guess it would be more expensive the maintain the engines of a small subfleet of 4/6 A380s while I have a pool of 777s with Aerologic, LH Cargo and Swiss.....

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by columba
Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 913
Views: 316659

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

77W is still more efficient than the A380 today if you don't get a full cabin on the Whale Jet. Reactivating the A380 from deep storage takes 8-10 weeks, they would be back at the very end of the summer season at the earliest. So this is useless and not realistic. Agree, also the A380 would need a ...

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by columba
Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:47 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Updated: Germany selects F-35 and Eurofighter Typhoon for Tornado replacement
Replies: 1830
Views: 314309

Re: Updated: Germany selects F-35 and Eurofighter Typhoon for Tornado replacement

Nothing is firm yet, there will be more ground based AD not only for Patriot improvements - TLVS the successor of MEADS will be part of it and likely a short range system by Rheinmetall based on the Boxer pattform...

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by columba
Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 913
Views: 316659

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2022

According to the website aerotelegraph LH will have to wait a little bit longer till they receive their first 787

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by columba
Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 913
Views: 316659

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2022

Blerg wrote:
Looking at that website, does it mean CL will retire E95 but keep the E90? I guess it makes sense since they are adding A319s.

I believe they need those for London City.

P.S.
As asked above any news on the Dreamliner?

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by columba
Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 913
Views: 316659

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2022

Happy 2022 to all of you here, just wanted to ask if there is any news on the 787s?

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by columba
Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Brussels Airlines New Livery
Replies: 235
Views: 63292

Re: Brussels Airlines “New Chapter”

Most boring "livery" ever......

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by columba
Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

Aero.de reports that the A220s - if ordered . would be part of Cityline. that would make tremendous sense IMO, so are we looking at 220-100s? Cityline operates A319s too, so I guess -300s would be the most logical. A221s would be a surprise, but LH is known for surprise orders sometimes ;) I think ...

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by columba
Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

Aero.de reports that the A220s - if ordered . would be part of Cityline.

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by columba
Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show Thread 2021
Replies: 70
Views: 15388

Re: Dubai Air Show Thread 2021

I have heard rumours that the Lufthansa 787 Whitetails will be arriving as a demonstration to others that whitetails are availabe and that Boeing can have them available for airlines should they need/want them. OMAA That would be great news, I hope that the 787s will arrive soon, today you could re...

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by columba
Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/lufthansa-w ... -1.1676294
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Lufthansa is interested in more A220 for its regional fleet:

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/lufthansa-w ... -1.1676294

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by columba
Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

https://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/newsr ... erlin.html
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It is official the first 787-9 will be named Berlin:

* Official naming ceremony and first flight next year
* Lufthansa to receive a total of five “Dreamliners” in 2022

https://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/newsr ... erlin.html

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by columba
Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

B744 D-ABVU and D-ABVZ are on their way to XMN for maintenance right now. Seems to act as a reminder that there are lots of international MROs that can do 744 maintenance at low prices, A380 less so. I didn't think about this.. Because I can not for the life of me see how operating a 744 is more ef...

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by columba
Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

Lufthansa has flown their last A380 in FRA to desert storage in Teruel, Spain - who would have thought then years ago that the 747-400 will last longer with LH than the A380.

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by columba
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:43 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why didn't IL-62's leading edge design become popular in commercial jets?
Replies: 14
Views: 5794

Re: Why didn't IL-62's leading edge design become popular in commercial jets?

Some might argue it was the Vickers VC 10 that was the original design or even on a smaller scale the Lockheed Jetstar which had its first flight in 1957....

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by columba
Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

https://twitter.com/lufthansaNews/statu ... 1274430473
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Lufthansa announced on twitter the first 787 destination: It will be Toronto
https://twitter.com/lufthansaNews/statu ... 1274430473

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by columba
Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

Any news regarding the first 787?

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by columba
Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:52 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: First C-130J-30 for Germany painted
Replies: 21
Views: 7678

Re: First C-130J-30 for Germany painted

Very nice....sometimes good things need a while finally a German C130..

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by columba
Fri Aug 06, 2021 4:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

As to the reason why LH brings back the 744 and not the A380. LH has the 747-8 still in the fleet and it makes more sense to bring back a type where they still have personal and infrastructure for. Reactivating a small subfleet and bring back all the crews, equipment etc would cost a lot more....

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by columba
Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

Since the A320Neo is also getting the raccon mask - any chance we will see it with the 787/777X as well as part of the new livery?

Also any idea when the first 787 will be in the paint shop? I guess right now, they are being checked thoroughly which will take a few weeks time....

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by columba
Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

For their A32x fleet LH group has introduced standardized seats. Part of the idea of homogenous seating is in part due to the transferring of aircraft between individual parts of Lufthansa Group. I can imagine that they also plan something like this with the 787 and A350 fleet (if Swiss is getting t...

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by columba
Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

Given Swiss has just announced they are retrofitting all their B77Ws with premium economy I’d say that is doubtful. I think they are refitting with the standard LH group seat, so I wouldn't think too much of that. Sounds like it would not happen overnight, so it could happen to keep all 777s at LH ...

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by columba
Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:41 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Updated: Germany signs order for Five Boeing P-8A Poseidon Aircraft
Replies: 248
Views: 34628

Re: Updated: Germany signs order for Five Boeing P-8A Poseidon Aircraft

or 5. also buy the P8

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by columba
Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

According to German Media the A321P2F will be already converted 2nd hand aircraft - makes sense as the conversion of own aircraft would take some time. And in another forum there is this rumor floating around: OS is getting 787-9 as of the phase out of the 767 LX is getting A350-900 to replace A340-...

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by columba
Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

wakymike wrote:
A little off topic,

but does anyone know if or when Edelweiss should get A320neos, resp. A330neos for long-haul?


I doubt LH Group will order the A330NEO - they decided in favor for the 787.

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by columba
Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Rumour: Austrian to receive Whitetail 787's

Good afternoon all. A rumour doing the rounds at OS currently, is that, of the 20 787's the LH Group originally ordered, the initial four will be delivered to Austrian as current White-Tail 787's. These will all be the undelivered Norwegian 787-9s which are all currently in storage. These aircraft ...

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by columba
Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:30 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Updated: Germany signs order for Five Boeing P-8A Poseidon Aircraft
Replies: 248
Views: 34628

Re: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread

And considering the longevity of these aircraft, they should be flying with that cross into the 2040s and perhaps 2060s as well. Might even be around for the 100th anniversary of the 737's first flight... Only if the French doesn't get their act together with the A320 MMA. Otherwise, those frames w...

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by columba
Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

Revelation wrote:

Cheers, columba, you've been here a long time. Just saw gkirk in the Euro 2000 thread in non-av. Feels like old times! :old:


Thanks, indeed a long time it is good to see that some of the older members are still here after all those years.....

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by columba
Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

https://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/newsr ... unich.html
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OMAAbound wrote:
Rumours are that some of the LH A346's are returning to service.

OMAA


Confirmed:

https://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/newsr ... unich.html

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by columba
Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:18 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Updated: Germany signs order for Five Boeing P-8A Poseidon Aircraft
Replies: 248
Views: 34628

Re: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread

https://www.flugrevue.de/militaer/moegl ... fuer-p-8a/

Looks good to me
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texl1649 wrote:
A very logical procurement, but I have to say a new 737 with a Luftwaffe cross on it will be amusing to see.


Artist rendition:
https://www.flugrevue.de/militaer/moegl ... fuer-p-8a/

Looks good to me

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by columba
Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 283
Views: 64197

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

Have they already decided which regs will be given to B789s? The reg's have been announced according to Lufthansa Fleet Group Website First 5 will be D-ABPA D-ABPB D-ABPC D-ABPD D-APBE and continue for any others which arrive later in the delivery process. Funny how that they have only given Reg's ...

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by columba
Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

Lufthansa thread at airliners.de

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by columba
Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 644
Views: 176023

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2021

Rumours are that some of the LH A346's are returning to service. OMAA According to a german forum this is true - the 5 that are not put up for sale: D-AIHI MSN 569 D-AIHP MSN 771 D-AIHT MSN 846 D-AIHU MSN 848 D-AIHV MSN 897 A346 are needed to offer a first class at MUC is mentioned to be the reason...

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by columba
Fri May 21, 2021 12:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Condor Majority Interest Acquired by Attestor
Replies: 16
Views: 3465

Re: Condor Majority Interest Acquired by Attestor

They were rumors years ago that Condor already decided in favor for the 787 - there was also a leaked photo of a huge poster of a 787 in Condor

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