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by deltacto
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 71
Views: 4289

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

Around that time and into the mid-1990s DL also operated from FRA to several East European capitals, part of the old PA network at FRA, along with IST. Toward the end of the FRA hub days for DL, there was also service to India, I think. yes: ATH, OTP, BUD, IST, SVO, PRG, LED, VIE, and WAW all with ...

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by deltacto
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 71
Views: 4289

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

DELTA -I seem to recall Delta had service from DFW as well, to LGW and from ATL to LGW and FRA as far back as the early 1980s, but the order of service starts, I do not know.! DL flew DFW-FRA from the early 80's until 1997 but not DFW-LGW IIRC From Delta's June 1, 1984 timetable DFW-FRA was schedul...

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by deltacto
Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Question about Pan Am's A310-200s
Replies: 77
Views: 10202

Re: Question about Pan Am's A310-200s

I've always wondered about - the ship numbers that Delta assigned to the A-310's
The A310-200's: N801PA thru N807PA became ships 001-007
The A310-300's :N811PA thru N824PA became ships 021-034

So Delta skipped the range 011-020 ... I never understood why.

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by deltacto
Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Question about Pan Am's A310-200s
Replies: 77
Views: 10202

Re: Question about Pan Am's A310-200s

I think both the -200s and -300s flew TATL ultimately. You're right that JFK-HAM, BRU, OSL (FBU) saw them, and the A310 also operated DTW-LHR, JFK-ZRH, and JFK-MXP (and FCO at times). There were I think 15 A313s and 16 A312s if I remember correctly. Not sure about the cabin interiors being configur...

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by deltacto
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA early 747 question
Replies: 75
Views: 9144

Re: AA early 747 question

In 1971 I flew from LAX to WAS (don't remember the airport) in an AA 747. There was a lounge at the rear of the cabin. I took a photo of it which (hopefully) can be viewed here [photoid]http://www.stubchaer.com/AA_B747_1971.jpg[/photoid]. I just joined Airliners and this is my first post, so I'm a ...

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by deltacto
Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TWA Transatlantic Drawdown Time Line
Replies: 106
Views: 10593

Re: TWA Transatlantic Drawdown Time Line

CO did this in the early 90s as well, publishing hundreds of international city pairs as "direct" service (usually under a 4XXX flight number) that was actually a connecting itinerary on two separate flight numbers. The logic was that direct flights (even with aircraft change) display hig...

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by deltacto
Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Pan Am disappear?
Replies: 76
Views: 9671

Re: Why did Pan Am disappear?

I recall flying on Pan Am from JFK to MCO (and back) on a 727 during the 1980’s. Was that a former National route? Also I remember in 1983, while on holiday with my Auntie in the US, we saw a Pan Am 727 @ New Orleans, would that have been one of the routes they got from national? Pan Am did not fly...

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by deltacto
Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Pan Am disappear?
Replies: 76
Views: 9671

Re: Why did Pan Am disappear?

Anyone have a link to 1980s timetables for Pan Am? Departed flights seems to have only the post-2000 reincarnation of Pan Am. I'd love to get refamiliarized with their TATL schedule from JFK from the 1986-1989 period. Departed Flights shows both the original Pan Am and Pan Am II 1985 timetable http...

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by deltacto
Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff Bankruptcy 1983
Replies: 43
Views: 5819

Re: Braniff Bankruptcy 1983

Quoting deltacto up thread a bit...BN went bankrupt in May 1982, not 1983 as asserted in the thread title. Looking forward at the time I was hoping to fly them to Basic Training in June 1982 but with the bankruptcy I ended up nonstop DEN-SAT on Continental 727-200. I came out of Basic Training and ...

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by deltacto
Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff Bankruptcy 1983
Replies: 43
Views: 5819

Re: Braniff Bankruptcy 1983

In watching the documentary, I kept wondering why they didn't declare Chapter 11 earlier, with the intent to reduce costs and reorganize In 1982 this was uncharted territory .... No major airline had ever done that .... Continental was the first to do so in 1983 I'm also curious, what happened to B...

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by deltacto
Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:51 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Odd CAB routes
Replies: 27
Views: 2607

Re: Odd CAB routes

http://www.departedflights.com/NA070174.html
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Another one is National's San Francisco to Atlanta ... their only route to Atlanta

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http://www.departedflights.com/NA070174.html

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by deltacto
Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:22 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Odd CAB routes
Replies: 27
Views: 2607

Re: Odd CAB routes

http://www.departedflights.com/NE060169.html

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and later on Los Angeles - Miami
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Northeast flew Chicago - Cleveland - Manchester .... also Chicago - Detroit - Burlington as shown on this map from 1969

http://www.departedflights.com/NE060169.html

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and later on Los Angeles - Miami

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by deltacto
Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1514
Views: 259760

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

bhmdiversion wrote:
Concourses T, B, C, E are all closed. Walls are up on C and E. B will have some places throughout. Unknown what AATC will do with T - if it will be locked down.


All of C or just part of C?

I'm wondering what gates Southwest is using

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by deltacto
Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1989: A radical redesign of DFW
Replies: 111
Views: 18321

Re: 1989: A radical redesign of DFW

airporthistory wrote:
As many people here are still following the link to the original blog post mentioned at the top of the thread, I just want to mention again that the full articles can be found here:


Email the moderators .... in this case they may be willing to edit your original post

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by deltacto
Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020
Replies: 542
Views: 99042

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Question about these repatriation flights: Does the host country require the foreign nationals to leave? or does the home country require their foreign nationals return? For example ... with all the Germans in New Zealand ... did the New Zealand government announce the Germans must depart? Or did th...

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by deltacto
Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Moderators to enforce new Social Distancing guidelines
Replies: 61
Views: 9095

Re: Moderators to enforce new Social Distancing guidelines

flyfresno wrote:
Can all the DTW fans simply refrain from new route speculations forever as part of these guidelines?



And PHX too

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by deltacto
Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Historical ops in HKG
Replies: 9
Views: 1298

Re: Historical ops in HKG

an awesome resouce is http://departedflights.com/ HKG in 1983 http://www.departedflights.com/HKG83intro.html HKG in 1989 http://www.departedflights.com/HKG89intro.html HKG in 1996 http://www.departedflights.com/96Iintro.html You can browse individual airline historical timetables at http://timetable...

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by deltacto
Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:58 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why did UA retire the L-1011?
Replies: 31
Views: 6141

Re: Why did UA retire the L-1011?

Did any of these PA L-1011's after UA and DL go to other operators like ATA ? Of UA's 6 L15's ... Delta acquired 5 and LTU acquired 1 .... none went on to fly for any other carrier after Delta and LTU retired them https://rzjets.net/aircraft/?parentid=1342&typeid=152&frstatus=3 Initially De...

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by deltacto
Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:30 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why did UA retire the L-1011?
Replies: 31
Views: 6141

Re: Why did UA retire the L-1011?

http://departedflights.com/UAL1587.html

this is the exact same configuration that Pan Am had

http://www.departedflights.com/PAL151085.html

these aircraft had mid-cabin lavs .... and 3x4x3 seating in coach
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blacksoviet wrote:
Were these three-class aircraft?


yes .... seat map from 1987

http://departedflights.com/UAL1587.html

this is the exact same configuration that Pan Am had

http://www.departedflights.com/PAL151085.html

these aircraft had mid-cabin lavs .... and 3x4x3 seating in coach

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by deltacto
Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: U.S. Air Rebranding to U.S. Airways
Replies: 289
Views: 34791

Re: U.S. Air Rebranding to U.S. Airways

Does anybody remember when USAir retired the 727-100? They inherited them from Allegheny and Piedmont. They had the same range as the 733s. Allegheny acquired 11 727-22's from United in 1978 ... they all went on to fly with US Air and were retired in 1982 and 1983 http://www.aeromoe.com/fleets/us.h...

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by deltacto
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue turns 20
Replies: 88
Views: 8688

Re: JetBlue turns 20 today.

Did jetBlue fly out of T6 when they first started service at JFK?

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by deltacto
Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: History of EWR Terminals A and B
Replies: 5
Views: 977

Re: History of EWR Terminals A and B

While not from 1973, I have a Terminal map published by the Port Authority in 1976 ... alas, no gate numbers https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203306321043397&set=a.10203306271642162&type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203306321043397&set=a.10203306271642...

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by deltacto
Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why no 2L boarding door option on aircraft with tail mounted engines?
Replies: 39
Views: 6321

Re: Why no 2L boarding door option on aircraft with tail mounted engines?

oldannyboy wrote:
727-100 had one.


Yes! Dan Air installed an extra exit door on both sides of the 727-46's they bought from JAL

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by deltacto
Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TWA 85 Hijacking ... 50 years ago
Replies: 2
Views: 1328

Re: TWA 85 Hijacking ... 50 years ago

This pic taken in Bangor shows nose # 7737 ... which corresponds to N737TW ... a 707-131 delivered in 1959 and leased to Veneziana in 1972 https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/16361/production/_107477909_31oct.1969bangorinternationalairporthijackedboeing707ongroundfor36minutesbangordailynewsp...

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by deltacto
Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: GA LHR and AMS Routes News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 85
Views: 24228

Re: Garuda to close London again, reduce Amsterdam

KNO is Medan in Indonesia in case any one else did not know it

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by deltacto
Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Japan allocates Haneda international slots to 9 nations
Replies: 398
Views: 92307

Re: Japan allocates additional Haneda international slots to ANA & JAL

LAXintl wrote:
Foreign route allocation for ANA - JAL

ANA
USA - 6
China - 2
Russia - 1
Australia - 1
India - 0.5
Italy - 1
Turkey - 1
Scandinavia - 1


JAL
USA - 6
China - 2
Russia - 1
Australia - 1
India - 0.5
Finland - 1


How will JAL and ANA each use half a slot for India?

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by deltacto
Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airport Pocket Guides from the 1980s/90s
Replies: 14
Views: 2214

Re: Airport Pocket Guides from the 1980s/90s

Somebody posted a fantastic gallery of detailed terminal maps here within the last couple years from either the OAG or another source, if this helps. One of them showed gate locations for airlines at many airports. 3 years ago Zachary Shapiro shared these airport diagrams from 1985 on iCloud I dont...

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by deltacto
Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The 5 New "T" Gates in ATL
Replies: 65
Views: 11648

Re: The 5 New "T" Gates in ATL

More information about the history of D: When the midfield terminal at ATL was being designed, the original plan was for Delta to have all of A and half of B (which is what they got). Eastern would get the north half of B and the north half of C. Southern would be in the other half of C. D would be...

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by deltacto
Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The 5 New "T" Gates in ATL
Replies: 65
Views: 11648

Re: The 5 New "T" Gates in ATL

A little off topic but when ATL opened in September 1980, "D" was all others. I remember Frontier had D2, Republic had "D" South. Piedmont had "D" North, except for BN had D-36 and NW had D-35/37 (I think). I forgot where OZ was on "D" North? The others like ...

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by deltacto
Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airport Past: EARLY DFW - AA Ops
Replies: 22
Views: 3913

Re: Airport Past: EARLY DFW - AA Ops

Anyone else notice the Alaska 727? The AS 727 was operating on the interchange either with Braniff or American FAI-ANC-SEA-DFW-HOU ... Initially the interchange was between Braniff and Alaska ... after BN shut down, AS switched the interchange to AA AS route map from 1975 showing the interchange wi...

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by deltacto
Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airliners Past: A Braniff Boeing 747 video
Replies: 35
Views: 4931

Re: Airliners Past: A Braniff Boeing 747 video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvfsmj3C1m4 The longest action footage of a Braniff International Boeing 747-1230B operating a run into Boston's Logan International Airport. AWESOME video !! I've only seen a very few pics of Braniff 747's at Logan ... now you post a video !! Where did BN park at Lo...

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by deltacto
Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How were Alaska Airlines services to Russia in the 1990s!?
Replies: 23
Views: 6421

Re: How were Alaska Airlines services to Russia in the 1990s!?

http://www.departedflights.com/AS010995.html
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Route maps from June 1994 and January 1995 show Magadan, Khabaravosk, and Vladivostock

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http://www.departedflights.com/AS010995.html

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by deltacto
Thu May 30, 2019 8:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA191 40 Year Anniversary coming up
Replies: 155
Views: 20806

Re: AA191 40 Year Anniversary coming up

Not much different here on ANet as evidenced by the by TheflyingDisk. What's with the snark? I'm just saying it as it is. I know damn well that the Western DC-10 accident is pilot error, and the ANZ DC-10 accident is "an orchestrated litany of lies"... Cool off. I have no idea what the li...

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by deltacto
Wed May 22, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: NW vs UA Who was stronger in TPAC network?
Replies: 43
Views: 4413

Re: NW vs UA Who was stronger in TPAC network?

You are absolutely correct, just for grins n giggles do you remember the day of the week, the 747 routed via PDX? It was the same day, both directions, so we had two UA 747's on the ground at PDX next to each other. I flew the ORD-PDX leg of this flight, it was awesome service. The day was Tuesday....

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by deltacto
Tue May 21, 2019 10:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DFW Announces Terminal F Plans & C Renovations
Replies: 83
Views: 10715

Re: DFW Announces Terminal F Plans & C Renovations

The reason they haven't updated C after they did A and E is that the Asbestos abatement was going to cost more than demolishing the terminal and build a new one. Why was C different than A,B or E? If memory serves me right, 3E aka "C" had a unique design. It was originally designed withou...

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by deltacto
Sun May 19, 2019 8:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airport PAST: Dallas Love Field - Southwest 727 Braniff 747 Delta 747 plus
Replies: 61
Views: 8751

Re: Airport PAST: Dallas Love Field - Southwest 727 Braniff 747 Delta 747 plus

My question is was there one with a black 'BI' and one with an orange 'BI' tail, or were thy both orange 'BI' tails, any one know? I seen to recall one wearing a black 'BI' only the only 747 with a black "BI" on the tail was N9666 ... a 747-123 leased from American March 1978 til June 198...

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by deltacto
Fri May 17, 2019 7:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airport PAST: Dallas Love Field - Southwest 727 Braniff 747 Delta 747 plus
Replies: 61
Views: 8751

Re: Airport PAST: Dallas Love Field - Southwest 727 Braniff 747 Delta 747 plus

Braniff originally ordered two 747s in the late 1960s, but cancelled the second one before it would have been delivered in early 1971. Had this aircraft been delivered, it would have been painted green, and referred to as "the big watermelon". For many years, there was a model made in the...

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by deltacto
Mon May 13, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?
Replies: 69
Views: 9548

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Speaking of Hubs how much bigger was the CVG hub at its peak compared to the DFW hub? CVG peaked in 2004 ... 162 DL Mainline and 433 DL Connection .. total of 595 (DL Mainline peaked in 1996 at 219) http://www.departedflights.com/DLCVGhub.html DFW peaked in 1993 ... 256 DL Mainline and 95 DL Connec...

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by deltacto
Sat May 04, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 57486

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

Why hasn’t this thread been locked??? There’s absolutely no evidence the support the assertion that the 359 can’t fly LAX/SYD — just lots of heresay that ‘my dog humped Ed Bastian then barked three times which translates into the 359 sucks.’ Nor is this thread about DL and LAX/SYD ... it’s turned i...

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by deltacto
Fri May 03, 2019 7:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL, why no B77W?
Replies: 57
Views: 13073

Re: DL, why no B77W?

As I would screenshot the section of the Wikipedia link that provides the information on the A310, and I would appreciate if you or anyone else could PM me and explain how to post pictures on this website. Anyway the section is in the retired AC section. type: [img]PictureLink[/img] where "Pic...

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by deltacto
Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 2702
Views: 413963

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

tlecam wrote:
Back when United was in C, the San Francisco bound 757/767s often used C17.


Yes !!
And before that TWA L10's and 747's !

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by deltacto
Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 410368

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Due to the last thread being long please continue discussion regarding Boeing 737MAX grounding below. For the time being we will open a thread each quarter however that is subject to review Just a reminder to debate the topic and not each other and if quoting from other sources make sure it is with...

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by deltacto
Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 4/28/2019: AA Adds DFW-SAP/TGU,MIA-SCU;BA Exits FLL;KL Back in BOS for Winter;AM/WN/D8 Roll MAX Cuts Forward
Replies: 65
Views: 12195

Re: OAG Changes 4/28/2019: AA Adds DFW-SAP/TGU,MIA-SCU;BA Exits FLL;KL Back in BOS for Winter;AM/WN/D8 Roll MAX Cuts For

Another question...recently, someone posted a link to a website where you can put in a city pair and see all flights by all airlines on the route, one airline at a time, and even all flights at that airport in chronological order, like a schedule. I thought I bookmarked it, but I can’t find it. Doe...

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by deltacto
Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:59 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Delta Airlines January 24, 2000
Replies: 6
Views: 1284

Re: Delta Airlines January 24, 2000

https://wandr.me/bts/

this also shows 2 red-eye flights like nagara484 found
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BTS transtats is a great site

another good site:

https://wandr.me/bts/

this also shows 2 red-eye flights like nagara484 found

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by deltacto
Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610033

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Wow! SOMEONE REMEMBERS !!!!!! OK, I can sleep easy tonight... :) FWIW I also remembered :) Up thread I posted the following :yes: and :yes: and :yes: The first of those nods was me acknowledging you as the source of most of the good stuff posted here. The other two nods was me agreeing with what yo...

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by deltacto
Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta and JFK before 1991
Replies: 7
Views: 1828

Re: Delta and JFK before 1991

http://www.departedflights.com/JFK91.html
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Like SCFlyer said, DL operated out of what is now T2

Here is a JFK terminal map from October 1991 ... just one month before the Pan Am acquisition

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http://www.departedflights.com/JFK91.html

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by deltacto
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: US DOT awards Haneda slots
Replies: 821
Views: 152421

Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

I wonder if DL will keep some NRT operation.... what happens to MNL and SIN service? I guess we will see... With reduced, or potentially even no feed, the intra-Asia flights are toast from NRT. Since the Manilla and Singapore flights are fifth freedom, the flight numbers must be a continuation of a...

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by deltacto
Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 564
Views: 93811

Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2019

jplatts wrote:
There would likely be more demand for WN service out of AUS than out of any of DL's current hub or focus cities except for ATL and LAX if DL establishes a hub or focus city at AUS.


what are you trying to say? that once DL opens their hub at AUS, that WN's traffic will increase as well ?

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