I wonder about one aspect of all the flight and simulator tests. When the test pilots go through systems and aircraft situations in the sky or in the simulator, I am certain that MCAS was part of those tests. However, were they testing (a) MCAS actions as specified or (b) MCAS actions with erroneous...Jump to post
astuteman wrote:I think it's really, really sad for the oh so many people at Boeing doing their best to make this right. My thoughts and best wishes are with you (as they also are with the families of the victims)
It is never a good day when the top article in WSJ is your company lying to the regulators... This doesn't _necessarily_ change the engineering of what has to change in the aircraft & training, but this really isn't good. It puts a legal, ethical, and liability strain on the company and particul...Jump to post
Jamake1 wrote:Looks like one of the props sliced through the fuselage.
Sqlblr and Rowberto, thanks for great reports from the actual incident! Very interesting reading. Also, As an impartial observer, it never would've occurred to me that the OP was being critical of United, but what do I know. +1 I realise that some folks on the site may have a history and/or may be s...Jump to post
IIRC, AA flew a route that arrived at 6am and left shortly thereafter. But the route is a triangle route, flying to somewhere else in Bolivia (maybe Sucre) before heading back to US. So that takeoff doesn't need so much fuel... A mandatory picture from in-flight cabin altitude just before landing to...Jump to post
Well, MCAS prevented those two airframes from stalling, ever again. On a more serious note, the debate about stall prevent system or not seems a bit too much drama about naming things. We do know what the system does, how much does it matter what it is called. FWIW, I used to think that if the creat...Jump to post
727LOVER wrote:HOW DO YOU PROSECUTE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO DEALT IT?
On a positive note, while there will be pain in getting this aircraft back in the air, the JATR makes a number of very rational recommendations and I think aviation will be safer as a result. That's a good thing, even if it had to be learned to the loss of many lives.Jump to post
Observation O3.4-B: Extension of MCAS to the low-speed and 1g environment during the flight program WAS DUE TO UNACCEPTABLE STALL CHARACTERISTICS WITH STS ONLY. The possibility of a pitch-up tendency during approach to stall was identified for the flaps-up configuration prior to the implementation ...Jump to post
I also wonder if the stall recovery procedure is really what should have been applied. The pilots possibly correctly identified the stall warnings and stick shaker as faulty, no? Either that, or they were still confused by everything that was going on. To be clear, the aircraft was never stalling. I...Jump to post
Revelation, you are taking individual conditions (e.g., stick shaker) and concluding that pilots needed to run specific actions based on them. But you ignore the broader situation in the cockpit of having many other individual conditions/alarms going on, so the first task isn't necessarily to do som...Jump to post
The same year, Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger safely landed a US Airways flight on the Hudson River in New York after a bird strike disabled the engines. He told lawmakers in June that the 737 MAX crew could have been confused as they struggled to maintain control of the aircraft. “I can tell you fir...Jump to post
Again, for the pilots-did-it crowd: The accident did not result from the lack of a single failure of someone forgetting to do something, be it about maintenance action, "turning off MCAS", or controlling the speed of the airplane. We don't really know for sure, yet of course. But MCAS desi...Jump to post
Here's what the Wall Street Journal wrote about the upcoming conclusions of the investigation: Indonesian investigators have determined that design and oversight lapses played a central role in the fatal crash of a Boeing 737 MAX jet in October, according to people familiar with the matter, in what ...Jump to post
While he is at it, better inspect the carpets for perfection as well #learnfromyourneighboursJump to post
A bit of tribe thinking in this thread. And painting things and actions in unnecessarily bad light. When in reality things are probably moving along over the course of a normal process. I don't mean to say that the aircraft will be released tomorrow, but I'm 100% certain it will at some point, perha...Jump to post
It is interesting to see the usual posters shift their attacks as the situation changes. From maintenance to pilots to training... and most recently, non-US regulatory agencies. I applaud the EASA for doing their job, and making a list of very reasonable requirements that must be satisfied, and bein...Jump to post
... Ky told the European Parliament’s transport committee Sept. 3 that EASA has decided to recertify parts of the MAX’s flight control systems itself....
oschkosch wrote:http://m.aviationweek.com/commercial-av ... be-changed... Ky told the European Parliament’s transport committee Sept. 3 that EASA has decided to recertify parts of the MAX’s flight control systems itself....
News on cnn: https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/08/20/politics/faa-boeing-737-max/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fedition.cnn.com%2F An international panel created after two Boeing 737 MAXcrashes is expected to recommend the Federal Aviation Administration change the way it certifies planes and address safe...Jump to post
If you use the hidden city ticketing to your benefit, if anyone asks, be sure to say that you suddenly got nausea and had to exit the airport. When the airlines start honouring their part of a fair deal (not the one they dictated), e.g., by not bumping passengers who paid for their trip. Or actually...Jump to post
I believe a modified shuttle could definitely have done a moon landing. "The shuttle glides onto a smooth landing on the Sea of Tranquility" (Seems silly to carry those mighty wings to another planetary body. Particularly, as SpaceX has shown, they not particularly necessary on earth side...Jump to post
Walsh has every right to buy whatever he wants. I plan to fly other carriers until there’s enough statistical evidence that the jets are safe.Jump to post
I find it unusual that Ireland can't even afford a basic jet trainer when countries of similar size and GDP, such as Finland and Denmark, can afford multiple squadrons of proper jets like F-18s and F-16s, and now even F-35s. If you'd like to to trade places on the map, Finland would be up for it :-...Jump to post
Starlionblue, the picture is not visible at least for me (I'm in Europe, so maybe this is because of newspaper GDPR problems, same as for the article).Jump to post
Incredible video & photos! Beautiful bird.Jump to post
I think we can talk of three different classes of fixes and the time to turn them around: 1) Software point fix: small number of months 2) Software redesign: large number of months 3) Hardware replacement: one year or more Yes. To quote Jon Ostrower from https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-safety/fa...Jump to post
to me, it has always been completely irrelevant that MCAS was intermittent. The big failure that was missed is that the same thing that would cause MCAS cause a runaway stabilizer ALSO caused other issues simultaneously. This factor is the reason that I believe the lack of documentation of MCAS and...Jump to post
I came here to read about the issues recently discovered per various news sites, to see how they might affect return to flight. But what found was continued tirade, often by the same person or persons about pilots. Sure, there may have been path to avoid a crash, and the exact procedures in this com...Jump to post
As SQ317 says, Finnair is connecting Europe to Asia. That is their business model, not tourists from Finland or the Nepalese restaurant works going back home. The question is if there's enough Europe-wide demand for Nepal that it makes sense for AY to gather those customers and fly them to Nepal. I'...Jump to post
Obviously, this is a miss by AC, even if the sleeplessness and door height are probably exaggerated. Kudos for her for using the flashlight to draw attention. Are cockpit doors usually left open when the aircraft is empty? I would have turned the radios on: "This is AC 123. Request immediate to...Jump to post
jfk777 wrote:Cry me a river, Korean has the Schipol of Asia and wants to limit a small Scandanavian airline's flight to a Korea's second city.
The Muilenburg death watch has begun: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/a-question-at-the-paris-air-show-will-boeing-ceo-muilenburg-survive/ Thank you for posting this. And I agree about the analysis of timing that you posted later, Revelation. Back to the article. Slattery see...Jump to post
I'd love to know more about this, in particular the timing of when such people were pulled in relative to various statements made by the CEO. I'd love to know if the current strategy of admitting only the smallest flaw (we put too much workload on the pilots, etc) is something endorsed by these out...Jump to post
I don't think the MAX specifically needed more training as I see the real problem is lack of hand flying skills and confidence in flying without the nannies. I think there is a really simple test to prove your assertion wrong. All other things being equal, had they been flying NG instead MAX, this ...Jump to post
Had they escaped the initial situation, the crucial question becomes whether the crew would have been able to determine what stall speed they had, and not accidentally slow down too much when landing. And would that have been a doable landing speed. My guess is that the answer would have been yes......Jump to post
The Swiss cheese holes, not a single reason. Bad maintenance (forklift), bad design (not locking slats after hydraulic failure, stick shakers run off only one hydraulic system), bad procedure (assumed all high lift devices are operational), lack of mandated safety devices (warning about slats, stick...Jump to post
So what happen if a Russian aircraft(s) that was being shadowed flew into that nation's airspace. If it didn't turn around would it be somehow forced down? It would be extremely unprofessional and embarrassing if they did this. The US & Russia may poke and prod one another, but that's kind of a...Jump to post
They don't do aerial refueling. Also, remember that it is a command post and needs to respond to potentially changing events. Even if you can make it to the destination without refueling, perhaps they want enough fuel onboard so that (for instance) have the ability to turn around and fly somewhere e...Jump to post