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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:28 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2108
Views: 138491

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

You won't find a link on this but the hospital all the other "referral hospitals" send surplus patients is full in Mesa County Colorado. They have beds, a whole ward ready. The nurses are saying "no, there is no need for another year of hell." Administrators started assigning nur...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order
Replies: 163
Views: 26875

Re: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order

Again, I'm certain DL's satisfied with the 739, but the narrative that they loved the aircraft to the point of paying a premium for it over the 321 is almost unquestionably false. No one has claimed that. To be clear we don’t know how much of a premium DL is willing to pay for A321s over the 739 ei...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates 5.5bn Loss
Replies: 65
Views: 10721

Re: Emirates 5.5bn Loss

First I believed for years EK had a great model. India still has high fuel taxes and needs more airport capacity limiting the avoidance of hubs outside of India. Dubai is still well located. They needed a 3rd runway at DXB (I know, not possible), not so many Jumbo size widebodies with a higher cost ...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:43 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Cristiano Ronaldo snub wipes billions off Coca-Cola's market value
Replies: 24
Views: 970

Re: Cristiano Ronaldo snub wipes billions off Coca-Cola's market value

Aaron747 wrote:
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
[threeid][/threeid]
Aaron747 wrote:

Heineken....alcohol-free beer...what's the difference? :lol:


Ah, 5% difference


I keed, I keed. Stuff just tastes so light it's got no zip. de Smedt it sure as hell aint.

Anyone else remember when vending machines had Beer...

Another button next to coca-cola...

:old:

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021
Replies: 127
Views: 23691

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021

Someone 83
First, thank you for the information. Is there a source for total E2 deliveries? Hopefully total, this quarter, and this month. It looks like a nice end of quarter surge is starting.

Lightsaber

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order
Replies: 163
Views: 26875

Re: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order

I too suspect nothing official until the next quarterly report. The Delta 739 configuration is terrible. I don’t understand why American took so much flack about oasis and densifying when Delta had already been doing it. DL is the only U.S. carrier I can think of that uses the half size forward gall...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hong Kong government will not renew work permit for Cathay expat cabin crew
Replies: 12
Views: 2765

Re: Hong Kong government will not renew work permit for Cathay expat cabin crew

Always sad when crew are dismissed. How many are effected? I suspect any foreign pilot either uses the 7 year residency to be considered local, or they will be released after the next renewal.

Lightsaber

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing MAX-10 First Flight Thread
Replies: 65
Views: 9247

Re: Boeing MAX-10 First Flight Thread

This is good news. I expect -10 sales to be announced soon. I assume the EU still wants angle of attack data? What was the final solution? (I lost track when alternatives were proposed). I am assuming it allow it better runway performance than the 9? If it does, which I'm also assuming to be the cas...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:08 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 322
Views: 21547

Re: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

A really well written article on coronavirus/vacinations, safety indoors at restaurants, but what struck me is the first estimate of Ro for Delta: 5 to 6 https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/amp/a-tale-of-two-covid-nations-peter-hotez-interview-16253231.php I'm going from memor...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:19 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2108
Views: 138491

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

The lawsuit against Houston Methodist is going to appeal. Historically, the judge has 28% of cases overturned. https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2021/06/17/vaccine-requirement-houston-hospital-could-spark-nationwide-trend/7709591002/ I like how the employees demand proof of 100% ...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:09 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2108
Views: 138491

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jun/17/coronavirus-live-news-tokyo-plans-to-lift-emergency-before-olympics-germanys-curevac-jab-shows-47-efficacy?page=with:block-60caf40c8f08d12b4aec5d60#block-60caf40c8f08d12b4aec5d60 More than 350 Indonesian doctors have contracted Covid-19 despite bein...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates 5.5bn Loss
Replies: 65
Views: 10721

Re: Emirates 5.5bn Loss

The age of the returned 77Ws is facinating (Yes, I am an AvGeek...). The 16 year old frames (2005) will hopefully become 777-300ERSFs. The 2011 frame, a mere decade old, is interesting... In this market I cannot predict the fate. To be honest, if EK were to be forced to mark its fleet to true market...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 129
Views: 37853

Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

I thought the A220 for Air Austral are replacements for the 738 only. But is it a replacement for the ATR too ? Is the A220 capable to land and take-off from ZSE airport (St Pierre in Réunion island). The only route from this airport is ZSE-MRU (no flight as of today, probably due to the covid). ZS...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:53 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2108
Views: 138491

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

Novavax's vaccine candidate seems to have done well in trials, showing a efficacy rate around 90%: https://globalnews.ca/news/7947294/novavax-covid-vaccine-effective-large-study/ Vaccine maker Novavax said Monday its shot was highly effective against COVID-19 and also protected against variants in ...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:38 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 322
Views: 21547

Re: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

Late edit: They are using one of the hotels to rapid discharge minor cases where they unlikely to contaminate anyone else, have a nurse walk the halls twice a day (make sure they do not need to go back to the hospital, a common event with coronavirus, even a week later, and free up staff for seriou...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:32 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Cristiano Ronaldo snub wipes billions off Coca-Cola's market value
Replies: 24
Views: 970

Re: Cristiano Ronaldo snub wipes billions off Coca-Cola's market value

I was expecting a much sharper drop in the stock price. $54.67 isn't that much below $56.24 (monthly high).

Coca Cola is so many drinks, e.g. Dasini water, that they have a good base income.

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by lightsaber
Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:16 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 322
Views: 21547

Re: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

https://health.mesacounty.us/covid19/datadashboard/
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Huh, Hospital filled up a bunch, but only 3 more coronavirus patients. I cannot explain why and I'll let those I know there... rest.
https://health.mesacounty.us/covid19/datadashboard/

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chaos erupts onboard Azul flight
Replies: 12
Views: 5986

Re: Chaos erupts onboard Azul flight

Please post with links or state in some fashion this is your opinion.

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2108
Views: 138491

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

Just heard, Curevac seems to be out of the game. They do only reach an efficacy of less than 50% (47%) in comparison to placebo. And now I have to find a link, best in English.... EDIT: Link in Gerrman. https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/covid-impfstoff-von-curevac-verfehlt-bei-zwischenana...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:14 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 322
Views: 21547

Re: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

For my relatives, finally talking medical staff fatigue: https://www.cpr.org/2021/06/16/mesa-county-is-seeing-more-covid-cases-as-vaccination-rates-stagnate/ In Mesa County, health care workers are exhausted. And the COVID-19 cases keep coming. ... While nearly half of all Coloradans are fully vacci...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:12 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 322
Views: 21547

Re: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

Interesting article. And while it doesn't specifically say so, the ending is act on the science we know - get vaccinated, and be careful especially if you are around other people who are vulnerable. We don't know it all, but we know enough. And, that lines up with me. The only difference is that I ...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order
Replies: 163
Views: 26875

Re: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order

Delta liking the 737-900ER is a part of the equation, but it's only one part of the equation. Because a limited number of airlines operate the 737-900ER, there are fewer airlines that are competing for used frames, pushing the price down when compared to more popular models. Over 80% of the product...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 129
Views: 37853

Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

That's absolutely fascinating, but how many aircraft do they plan to deliver in 2021? Good news, I missed the announcement of a ramp to 6/month! https://www.compositesworld.com/news/airbus-updates-single-aisle-aircraft-production-plans- A220 Family: Currently at around rate five aircraft per month ...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:40 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Lawsuit Against Houston Hospital Mandating Vaccine for Employees Fails
Replies: 87
Views: 2966

Re: Lawsuit Against Houston Hospital Mandating Vaccine for Employees Fails

Definitely work on a vaccine for the kids!!! I have a child ready and willing, below age 12. A fact of working in the medical field is there are always a few people who feel the need to try to outsmart their doctor. We could debate all day about the various reasons why but it’s something physicians ...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:33 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 322
Views: 21547

Re: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

20% of asymptomatic are getting long haul symptoms. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9693223/A-FIFTH-asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-develop-long-Covid-conditions.html Ok, I'm obsessed as since my ling haul symptom is the inability to taste fat after a trivial case of coronavirus, I'm no...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order
Replies: 163
Views: 26875

Re: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order

It just paid 62million for not to purchase 4 a350 last year Devil you know v Devil you don't. DL needed to get frames off the books last year and the price was right to do so. DL has a need for frames now and in the future, and the price is right . So I estimate DL saved $40 to $80 million net on t...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant News and Discussion Thread - 2021
Replies: 342
Views: 41298

Re: Allegiant News and Discussion Thread - 2021

The Aircraft Fleet Plan in the Earnings Call shows them drawing down 7 x 177-seat A320s this year, (26 to 19) so retiring those four, and three others, makes sense. The transcript is available: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4424482-allegiant-travel-company-algt-ceo-maury-gallagher-on-q1-2021-res...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:44 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Lawsuit Against Houston Hospital Mandating Vaccine for Employees Fails
Replies: 87
Views: 2966

Re: Lawsuit Against Houston Hospital Mandating Vaccine for Employees Fails

Would it not be easier to vaccinate the vulnerable and not force healthy and informed people to take the vaccine? That is not the recommended course of action by epidemiologists and public health management expert. I cannot for the life of me understand why laypersons continually challenge professi...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest faces another IT outage, all flights stopped.
Replies: 77
Views: 12073

Re: Southwest faces another IT outage, all flights stopped.

CALMSP wrote:
was flying through DEN on my way to GJT and every gate on C was full of WN and then I counted 27 just on the west side of the airport waiting for gates. What a mess.

Photos Please.

This is interesting...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order
Replies: 163
Views: 26875

Re: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order

Based on internal rumors and recent hints from the VP of Flight Operations, Delta could announce an aircraft order in the coming days for around 7 A350s and 27-30 used 737s. If DL has the cash on hand and the price is right, why not. As they say on wall street, buy when there's blood in the streets...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 129
Views: 37853

Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Did they share the same production line? E2 re-uses the same production line as E1. All subsystems are based on already developed platforms. Economies of scale is already there. But I am going off topic here. Just saying that you might be looking at the wrong side. Very same production line for Md-...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Relaunch of the Dornier 328
Replies: 210
Views: 42077

Re: Relaunch of the Dornier 328

I believe there is a market for smaller than 70 seat aircraft in the US. It may only be 1/3 of what it was at it's peak, but it's there. The existing 70 seaters and downsized CRJ-550 will not survive forever. They will cycle out or aging aircraft maintenance costs will ground them. No one bought pr...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:20 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 322
Views: 21547

Re: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

Oh no, my relative's area had a surge in cases. Now a small area, but this might be enough to require another coronavirus ward. Was, 44 hospitizations for coronavirus yesterday, today 49 (one more out of county resident hospitalized too). It is case by case, but this might be enough to force anothe...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:09 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 322
Views: 21547

Re: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

Oh no, my relative's area had a surge in cases. Now a small area, but this might be enough to require another coronavirus ward. Was, 44 hospitizations for coronavirus yesterday, today 49 (one more out of county resident hospitalized too). It is case by case, but this might be enough to force another...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:05 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 322
Views: 21547

Re: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

Measles was worse. While one varriant, the vaccines work. We just need a high global vaccination rate. Speaking of colds (and flus), when mRNA vaccines are available, I will sign up. We could reduce infections. I expect employers to increase mandates. Lightsaber Measles is not a great comparison. F...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 129
Views: 37853

Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

The only issue with your comparison of the E2 with 717 is that the E2 is part of the E-Jets family, which has delivered more than 1500 units in 15 years of service. Although the brand name is E2, the project names are ERJ 190-300 (E190-E2), ERJ 190-400 (E195-E2) and ERJ 190-500 (E175-E2). This is a...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 129
Views: 37853

Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

How many aircraft do they plan to deliver in 2021? I'm not sure of the total, but JetBlue, Breeze, and AirFrance will all start accepting deliveries. This is the year that the A220 grows to 4 major customers! :hyper: https://simpleflying.com/air-france-a220-delivery-september-2021/ We do know produ...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates 5.5bn Loss
Replies: 65
Views: 10721

Re: Emirates 5.5bn Loss

Forbes is not kind in their reporting: https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2021/06/15/emirates-airline-reveals-extent-of-coronavirus-damage-to-its-business/amp/ $3.1 bn in government support which is $1.1 bn more than previously known, 88% drop in business... plus repeated reporting of number...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pratt & Whitney - Future widebody engine?
Replies: 28
Views: 3652

Re: Pratt & Whitney - Future widebody engine?

If their GTF is truly scalable to any thrust level that could be their entry back in to the widebody market Only after all the bugs are worked out on the narrow body side of the house first and the engine matures to where the airlines are comfortable with the reliability. It took longer than plan, ...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest faces another IT outage, all flights stopped.
Replies: 77
Views: 12073

Re: Southwest faces another IT outage, all flights stopped.

2nd glitch making financial news just within last hour: https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/southwest-airlines-suffers-technical-issues-for-second-straight-day/ar-AAL4RO5?ocid=BingNewsSearch Southwest Airlines said it was working Tuesday to restore normal operations after a technology-related issu...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2021
Replies: 127
Views: 26233

Re: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2021

Re possible "commercial penalties" I was looking at the bigger picture in terms of guaranteed asset values, buyback support, financing, etc. Plus the residual value hit to the worldwide fleet once a type goes out of production. All of which may, as suggested, add up to a small sum. There ...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest faces another IT outage, all flights stopped.
Replies: 77
Views: 12073

Re: Southwest faces another IT outage, all flights stopped.

Flights resumed: https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/southwest-airlines-operations-return-to-normal-after-tech-issue-grounded-flights-nationwide/ar-AAL41vQ?ocid=BingNewsSearch Interesting that weather information stopped them. Lightsaber As the other poster said, this is new and current. I was li...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Steven Udvar-Hazy: 737 needs replacement
Replies: 144
Views: 14909

Re: Steven Udvar-Hazy: 737 needs replacement

I think the next narrow-body from either Boeing or Airbus has to be a significant improvement. All composite, with open-rotor engines. It looks like open rotors (nee propfans) are getting interest again. That said, Boeing needs to milk the 737 cash cow for now. The 2030 timeframe will be good timin...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates 5.5bn Loss
Replies: 65
Views: 10721

Re: Emirates 5.5bn Loss

From a quick look at the financials in the annual report the net result is overwhelmingly an operating loss, not due to asset write-downs of aircraft, parts, etc. It looks like only about $128 million (AED 500 million) was from an aircraft impairment charge. So, if they're going to have a significa...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates 5.5bn Loss
Replies: 65
Views: 10721

Re: Emirates 5.5bn Loss

Please go back to my 2015 and earlier posts celibrating their business model. You would do everyone a favour if you linked to the posts in question, rather than referring to them. "Calibrating Emirates Business Model lightsaber" doesn't really find anything now. Sure here is one link, but...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest faces another IT outage, all flights stopped.
Replies: 77
Views: 12073

Re: Southwest faces another IT outage, all flights stopped.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/s ... NewsSearch

Interesting that weather information stopped them.

Lightsaber
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Flights resumed:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/s ... NewsSearch

Interesting that weather information stopped them.

Lightsaber

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:33 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Lawsuit Against Houston Hospital Mandating Vaccine for Employees Fails
Replies: 87
Views: 2966

Re: Lawsuit Against Houston Hospital Mandating Vaccine for Employees Fails

... The vaccines have been proven safe and effective. There are 3 to choose from. The anti-vax histeria needs to end Pick one. ... I wish OSHA had mandated all essential workers be vaccinated. ... Lightsaber They are unofficially safe, officially benefits outweigh risks per EUA definition. FDA can ...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:19 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 322
Views: 21547

Re: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

More data on Delta, 64% more transmittable than Alpha, so the ~2.6x more transmittable than the original Wuhan variant. The chance of hospitizations keeps going up, now considered twice as likely to hospitilize. I believe that is because of all the pediatric cases, so unusual for coronavirus. https...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 129
Views: 37853

Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Good news, I missed the announcement of a ramp to 6/month! https://www.compositesworld.com/news/airbus-updates-single-aisle-aircraft-production-plans- A220 Family: Currently at around rate five aircraft per month from Mirabel, Quebec and Mobile, Alabama locations, the rate is confirmed to rise to a...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates 5.5bn Loss
Replies: 65
Views: 10721

Re: Emirates 5.5bn Loss

From a quick look at the financials in the annual report the net result is overwhelmingly an operating loss, not due to asset write-downs of aircraft, parts, etc. It looks like only about $128 million (AED 500 million) was from an aircraft impairment charge. So, if they're going to have a significa...

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