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by ytz
Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Now it's been reported that the Ethiopian Captain was never trained in the MAX simulator that Ethiopian had. Surely after the Lion Air Crash you would think that since they did have the MAX simulator that they would have rotated their crews through it and practiced these runaway trim and MCAS scene...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

I see that after the first wave of Boeing apologist, we have now new tales to taint the ET pilots. I guess ET and similar airlines will notice how Boeing throw them under the bus as fast as they dare and that will have consequences... It's an interesting question. Boeing's veiled slander has financ...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

... - but still any competent pilot would have seen an issue with the Electric Trim and disconnected it as did the pilot on the previous Lionair flight. How many pilots ran across this problem and "did the right thing" (TM, in your view) and survived? ( Is this actually a reportable issue...

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by ytz
Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC and WS Lack of Flights Between Largest Canadian Areas
Replies: 40
Views: 6590

Re: AC and WS Lack of Flights Between Largest Canadian Areas

The sad fact is that there are only three large Canadian metropolitan areas. Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver. Calgary, Edmonton and Ottawa are large-ish. All six of these places have year round non stop access on Air Canada, and at least seasonal non-stop on Westjet. The rest of these cities are j...

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by ytz
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

I have told you that the Lion Air crew manually took control of the trim and CORRECTED IT OVER TWENTY (20) TIMES. No. No they most definitely are not. They are there to follow the book to the letter. It is now quite obvious you know sweet FA about how a commercial pilot is supposed to operate. I've...

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by ytz
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

I wonder if the patronising idiots who claimed that “an abundance of caution” is some kind of anti-American plot will ever apologise? No. Of course they won’t. Casual xenophobia seems to be the order of the day, US members especially. Very sad. Not willing to risk your life on an airplane you don't...

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by ytz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

No Boeing can sell planes to whomever they want but there must be a training standard to which all airlines comply to before operating the planes. We have to dumb-down aircraft handling because it's simply infeasible to skill-up every pilot to an extreme level. Even the military can't achieve that....

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by ytz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

No Boeing can sell planes to whomever they want but there must be a training standard to which all airlines comply to before operating the planes. The fault should then rest on the airlines that are cutting corners to get people in the cockpit whether they have met the world standard of training or...

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by ytz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

One thing I have been wondering...and bothering me a ton. Why now? This model has been in service for TWO years! If the only thing that has changed over the years is the Humans operating it..... Numbers. Two years ago they had one airplane in service. Now they have ~350. They were probably just com...

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by ytz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

If it is proven that these two accidents are not the fault of the airplane but crew training issues can AA and WN go back and sue the US government for not allowing them to operate a perfectly safe aircraft. On what grounds do you get to sue? There's no right to sell your products or fly in a count...

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by ytz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

MSPNWA wrote:
Deep down, for many this isn't about safety.


Indeed. For all those who avoided grounding for days, this seems to be true.

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by ytz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Like I say - once the wider world starts to understand whats happened here this will change the airline industry forever. Books, documentaries and films to come from this. Sackings, resignations and I wouldn't even rule out jail sentences either in due course. Honestly not sure. FAA already seems t...

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by ytz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

One could argue that they did have professional principles and they acted upon them, in that they deemed there was a very high likelihood -based on available information- that they were similar enough in result to warrant their actions. One could argue that they did not just blindly believe Boeing ...

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by ytz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Science and professional principals, should take in to account, statistics, and statistically we have a problem here. Exactly. The MAX has an crash rate that's an order of magnitude higher that the type its replacing, and every other type introduced in the last two decades. With two very similar in...

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by ytz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Traditionally FAA and EASA have followed each others certifications. I hope that mutual acceptance hasn't been damaged. It has been damaged, the acting management at the FAA has been incredibly compliant to Boeing wishes. They did not ground the aircraft when everyone else including their close par...

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by ytz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Pluto707 wrote:
After 47 pages of posts, my conclusion: MCAS was not the cause, but it gave the final blow


I'm with this too. They had issue right from the take off roll from the looks of it.

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by ytz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Putting up a link from Hindustan Times. Original article was from Bloomberg but if people are hitting the paywall, the full article is in this one. https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/clue-linking-mysterious-boeing-737-max-disasters-came-from-space/story-jxj0hMt6koypZpPtV5kq2J.html This artic...

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by ytz
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:30 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Is Boeing’s reputation now tainted?
Replies: 28
Views: 2676

Re: Is Boeing’s reputation now tainted?

Boeing will survive this. But the problem for Boeing is that scandals like this are simply adding to the distrust in the US and elsewhere in institutions and large companies. This is all contributing to a coming wave of demand for serious oversight. And that has implication for every industry. And p...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I just want to know why they didn't gain altitude in those first 3 minutes.

Will also be interesting to see if their FDR data has the same mismatches as Lion Air.

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Also, Boeing wants/needs to know the actual cause as well. Doctoring data to reduce liability for this accident does nothing for them if there is a design flaw. If they keep selling a model with a fundamental flaw, there will be more crashes and the 737 MAX will have all orders cancelled and the pr...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I am with you on this one. There are two lines of thought that are really troubling me. One, the 200 hour pilot was sitting next to an 8,000 pilot and had at least basic knowledge of the systems and procedures. I am sure that they worked together and tried to solve the problem. We have no idea what...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I think this is very significant. We have a worldwide grounding of the Max due to this crash. Irreparable harm has been done to the poor souls on board, Boeing, 737, many airlines and great stress placed on the flying public. All of this comes down to the actions and / or reactions of the pilots. O...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobip

This will only add another layer of antitrust/people dismissing the outcome. Not a good choice if you ask me. What the rest of the world thinks is irrelevant. The only relevant audience is the Ethiopian public. As long as the think the investigation is credible, the Ethiopian government will be fin...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

If the reports are true that the NTSB was "pressuring" Ethiopian official to give them the FDR and CVR, then the only incompetence I'm seeing right now is from the NTSB. Upon being told that they didn't want it read in DC, the NTSB should have done everything it could to facilitate delive...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobip

France Has Black Boxes (7:47 a.m.) The voice and data recorders from the crashed Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 Max have arrived in France, a spokesman for the French BEA air-accident investigation office said. :bouncy: so airbus now has the blackboxes So I get why they didn't want to send the black...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I think this is very significant. We have a worldwide grounding of the Max due to this crash. Irreparable harm has been done to the poor souls on board, Boeing, 737, many airlines and great stress placed on the flying public. All of this comes down to the actions and / or reactions of the pilots. O...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Yep. And this is part of the problem with an MCAS type bandaid. You now have pilots worried about issues and pulling the trigger on the MCAS while in a phase of flight where they would be closest to stalling. Add in possible erroneous indications on airspeed and altitude and you have a really danger...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Poor training or proficiency isn't likely to result in two crews reporting airspeed or altitude indication errors and controllability problems and then crashing the aircraft in the same phase of flight with approximately the same attitude. What's the probability of something like that being just cr...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

How do people still not get this? Flying in a given airspace is a privilege. Not a right. As such the burden of proof to show that the aircraft is safe enough to operate in a given airspace falls on the OEM. We aren't talking about individual civil rights here - and characterizing it in terms of pr...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Didn’t say it was punishment. Hence you don’t ground it without a valid reason. Two similarly contextual crashes which were preceded by crew reports of issues are a damn good reason to ground. The only folks who disagree are those who don't get how aviation safety works. Grounding is not a punishme...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

You don’t ground a fleet without data to back it up. Grounding is not a punishment for having proved unsafe. Grounding is the opposite of "permission to fly". "Permission to fly" is a reward for having proved as safe as reasonably possible. How do people still not get this? Flyi...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Poor training or proficiency isn't likely to result in two crews reporting airspeed or altitude indication errors and controllability problems and then crashing the aircraft in the same phase of flight with approximately the same attitude. What's the probability of something like that being just cr...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

If the Max is found to have serious design issues and too unsafe for passengers, maybe use them for cargo, courier service ? Can these 400 odd max be absorbed for cargo operations.? Doesn't work like that. It's either airworthy or its not. Nobody wants it plowing into an apartment building or mall ...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Poor training or proficiency isn't likely to result in two crews reporting airspeed or altitude indication errors and controllability problems and then crashing the aircraft in the same phase of flight with approximately the same attitude. What's the probability of something like that being just cra...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

It might be a bit early to say that. Also, those reports might mean nothing. Too early to say without even seeing the reports ourselves and just vague media references... we all know how often the media gets it right! (never > media getting it right > 0 times in history) They linked directly to the...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I keep going back to those NASA safety reports. Autothrottles not responding. Uncommanded pitch with autopilot. I think there's more to this than MCAS. I suspect some kind of sensor issue or some gremlins in their automation. I’m guessing these reports are due to poor piloting and lack of system kn...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I keep going back to those NASA safety reports. Autothrottles not responding. Uncommanded pitch with autopilot. I think there's more to this than MCAS. I suspect some kind of sensor issue or some gremlins in their automation. I’m guessing these reports are due to poor piloting and lack of system kn...

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by ytz
Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 743115

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I keep going back to those NASA safety reports. Autothrottles not responding. Uncommanded pitch with autopilot. I think there's more to this than MCAS. I suspect some kind of sensor issue or some gremlins in their automation.

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by ytz
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 3 SUNWING 737Max heading to Windsor
Replies: 19
Views: 5959

Re: 3 SUNWING 737Max heading to Windsor

I am going to bet at least 3 months. It's going to be longer than the 787 grounding.

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by ytz
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How does Boeing "survive" this crisis?
Replies: 53
Views: 5805

Re: How does Boeing "survive" this crisis?

Long term the biggest impact I could see is if there's an investigation into the cozy relationship between the FAA and Boeing. There's a certain amount of regulatory capture that works in Boeing's favor that I could see going away after this incident exposed it quite publicly. Their certification c...

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by ytz
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How does Boeing "survive" this crisis?
Replies: 53
Views: 5805

Re: How does Boeing "survive" this crisis?

I think Boeing will come out of this a better company. Short-term. They'll figure out what the issues are with the MAX. Be they technical, human factors, etc. Long-term. They'll need to rethink whether underinvesting in product development got them into the position where they had to rush the MAX an...

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by ytz
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How does Boeing "survive" this crisis?
Replies: 53
Views: 5805

Re: How does Boeing "survive" this crisis?

What if it's not the airplane? Two crews both report problems with their data (airspeed and altitude). And then both don't just pancake, but nosedive in at high speed, just a few minutes later. But sure, it's not the airplane./s If it isn't, Boeing can get on with giving english lessons to foreign ...

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by ytz
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

That Dallas News article is particularly problematic. Looks like issues with automation beyond MCAS. And personally, I've long suspected this is more than MCAS. Especially with ET, now that we know the Capt on the ET crew was briefed on MCAS.

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by ytz
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

I'm saying some in here were calling for a grounding minutes after the crash. Such uninformed claims and knee-jerk reactions are what some of us are in disagreement with. So are you now in agreement with all those aviation authorities around the World that have grounded the 737MAX while having any ...

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by ytz
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

They grounded the 737 MAX because if we use the 777 as an industry example, it was 18 years before 'the Koreans' managed to kill someone in one. The MH events do not count either. The MAX has already killed 357 in under two years, and within 5 months of each other during the climb. None of the fata...

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by ytz
Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

The Senate has announced they will hold hearings on air safety and the MAX now after the ET crash. https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/12/politics/congress-reaction-boeing-737-richard-blumenthal/index.html See. This is exactly why I think Boeing should have pulled the trigger on a precautionary grounding t...

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by ytz
Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

And apologize for what? Saying it's stupid to scream "ground!" on THE night of a crash before (1) more evidence is obtained (now happened) and before (2) rational-based regulators not from authoritarian governments see sufficient correlation to make a radical move (also now happened)? ......

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by ytz
Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

Whoops. Whoops what? Three reactionary authoritative governments grounding before looking? ....that's more like * yawn * TCCA or EASA doing so, BEFORE primary contribution to crash found? ***that*** would be a "whoops." When you're done yawning we'll take that whoops when you're ready. Ho...

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by ytz
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745857

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

I think this is correct, but it definitely is sad that any of what is bolded would be a factor in the decision since that is more financial/politically motivated than safety minded. At the end of the day though, God forbid something else happens the FAA and TC will point right to Boeing who claims ...

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