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by cedarjet
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DC-8 at Santa Monica?
Replies: 16
Views: 5179

DC-8 at Santa Monica?

Production of Douglas jets moved to Long Beach because of limited real estate and the short runway at Santa Monica, but SMO remained HQ for a while so I wonder if an (empty, minimum fuel) DC-8 (or for that matter DC-9) ever visited for a naming ceremony or similar? Can’t find any evidence of it happ...

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by cedarjet
Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: jetBlue's London In flight service details
Replies: 79
Views: 11496

Re: jetBlue's London In flight service details

Thank you to those who replied to my skepticism about transatlantic travel in 2021. I’m not saying demand doesn’t exist, at least for leisure travel, and I know progress with the vaccine is good. But it’s already April and the UK has tightened restrictions lately, with £7,000 fines for anyone stoppe...

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by cedarjet
Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: jetBlue's London In flight service details
Replies: 79
Views: 11496

Re: jetBlue's London In flight service details

Have I been sleeping for a year or are we all playing fantasy a.net? Because there’s no way anyone who isn’t a dual national and with a valid (non-leisure) reason to travel is crossing the Atlantic in 2021. Are they just going to fly half a dozen essential workers and as much mail as they can stuff ...

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by cedarjet
Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines final 747-100 interior
Replies: 9
Views: 3980

Re: American Airlines final 747-100 interior

This thread is worthless without pics meme goes here

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by cedarjet
Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA B38M Pitch Trim Issue 3/29/21
Replies: 41
Views: 11808

Re: AA B38M Pitch Trim Issue 3/29/21

These birds have been in storage for two years, many of them in rainy and humid Seattle. They’re going to have tech issues for their entire lives.

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by cedarjet
Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Russian MC-21 and supply chain challenges
Replies: 34
Views: 6562

Re: Russian MC-21 and supply chain challenges

The Superjet failed because Sukhoi succeeded at the difficult bit — creating an efficient and comfortable modern jetliner — and failed at what I would have thought was the easy bit — providing decent tech support

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by cedarjet
Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am DC-8 32/33
Replies: 10
Views: 3117

Re: Pan Am DC-8 32/33

One thing I do recall, after the fuel crises of Oct.73-March of 74..those were WFU as they drank Jet-A. Those engines were designed for 12-15 cent fuel..as I recall by summer of 74 jet-A was around 35 cents..more or less. hope this helps. Sold to Delta in 1968 (although a handful retained the Pan A...

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by cedarjet
Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Trump's Parked 757 N757AF
Replies: 113
Views: 30946

Re: Trump's Parked 757 N757AF

I think it’s more about ability and willingness to pay. This is the bird that got the water cannon salute taxiing into La Guardia the day after the 2016 election. Now shabby and abandoned with a missing engine in rural New York state. What a difference four years makes. Would a person like Trump fly...

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by cedarjet
Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 633
Views: 89042

Re: "Cargo" A340s. What's it all about?

I’m curious about this too. Is it possible to hit max gross weight with a full belly and main deck payload loaded through the passenger doors? I guess the economics work or it wouldn’t happen but I’m surprised it’s worth the effort.

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by cedarjet
Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:17 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Which aircraft will replace the Airbus A330-200 at Air France?
Replies: 60
Views: 9196

Re: Which aircraft will replace the Airbus A330-200 at Air France?

AF needs to stimulate France's economy so no doubt they will be buying more Airbus frames. Not so fast mon ami. Air France have always been big Boeing customers, right from the 707 days (with less than thrilling results, crashed six, the second one to hit the volcano in Guadeloupe was on its maiden...

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by cedarjet
Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:35 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will we ever see anything like The Residences ever again?
Replies: 22
Views: 3114

Re: Will we ever see anything like The Residences ever again?

The three-room suite on Etihad was an attempt to use the space creatively. The whole front end of the A380 wasn’t quite right, lot of wasted space on both decks but especially upstairs either side of the staircase. Emirates put the shower room, Etihad put the Residence, Qantas had a little lounge, A...

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by cedarjet
Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737, shrinked 707?
Replies: 32
Views: 7087

Re: 737, shrinked 707?

You bet it’s the same in many ways. Boeing boasted to its customers that commonality between the 707, 727 and 737 was something like 80%. The centre pedestal of a 737 Max is identical to that of a 707. That so much of a 707 is still on the production line in 2021 shows how right that version of Boei...

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by cedarjet
Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:46 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Could Amazon start passenger service?
Replies: 19
Views: 3028

Re: Could Amazon start passenger service?

UPS had 727s that converted into passenger liners every weekend with RORO pallets of seats and quick change interiors. Main problem was the planes were so bashed up by tens of thousands of flights that they were all flying bananas and the interiors proved to not be interchangeable, so come Friday ni...

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by cedarjet
Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Olivier Dassault killed in helicopter crash
Replies: 33
Views: 5483

Re: Olivier Dassault killed in helicopter crash

I do think helicopters are quite dangerous (and I have rotary wing training in my logbook). What compounds the problem is that high pressure clients, perhaps not understanding risk management very well, consider the pilots who always get the mission done are the “best”, but in reality land they are ...

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by cedarjet
Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Batik Air A320 lands with nosegear turned 90 degrees
Replies: 52
Views: 9354

Re: Batik Air A320 lands with nosegear turned 90 degrees

Happened to a Brazilian A330 operator landing at JFK as well, although weirdly, after a lot of preparation for an emergency and possible crash, it straightened out a few seconds before touchdown!

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by cedarjet
Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:55 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Western Sydney Airport VS Sydney Kingsford Smith Airport. Which one will be bigger?
Replies: 16
Views: 1990

Re: Western Sydney Airport VS Sydney Kingsford Smith Airport. Which one will be bigger?

Is it definitely going ahead? Can’t see international traffic returning to 2019 levels for years. If they want to take some pressure off Kingsford-Smith (which isn’t under pressure) and do something for the environment they should build a high speed rail line to Melbourne. I guess when you’ve got a ...

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by cedarjet
Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pope Francis visit to Iraq
Replies: 35
Views: 8022

Re: Pope Francis visit to Irak

Not sure about now but pre Covid, Iraqi Airways served a range of destinations in Europe including Berlin, Copenhagen, Düsseldorf, London (Gatwick), Manchester, Minsk and Stockholm with their brand new fleet of ~20 737-800s. So no issue flying a charter to Rome. (And thank you RJA321 for correcting ...

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by cedarjet
Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:19 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Flights between metro area airports
Replies: 47
Views: 3636

Re: Flights between metro area airports

Continental had a dedicated DC-9-10 for Houstons Intercontinental to Hobby, the Proud Bird Express. United San Francisco to Oakland by 727. That’s so short that since the BART extension, you can do that route today by subway train. FedEx used to fly a 727 Memphis to New York JFK to New York LGA. Tha...

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by cedarjet
Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: " You're flying the Friendly Skies!"
Replies: 27
Views: 4988

Re: " You're flying the Friendly Skies!"

Great compilation. Oddly reminds me of flying Northwest in the early 90s and the flight attendant included their then advertising line, “some people just know how to fly” in her arrival PA as per corporate policy and passengers were laughing because it sounded so canned.

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by cedarjet
Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: CSA/Czech Airlines declared bankrupt - operations to continue
Replies: 118
Views: 28080

Re: CSA/Czech Airlines collapse imminent - all staff furloughed

Balkan, CSA, Interflug, TAROM and LOT were the big eastern bloc airlines. Let’s hope the latter two hang on. Well LOT seem to be in good shape. Not sure about TAROM but no news is good news I guess.

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by cedarjet
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:20 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Footage of old turbojet Aircraft taking off?
Replies: 33
Views: 6056

Re: Footage of old turbojet Aircraft taking off?

Unbelievable footage! Didn’t realise these birds were still heavy smokers right to the end. Btw the CV-990A was actually turbofan powered, albeit in a weird set up with the big fan at the aft of the engine, worth a Google if you’re not already familiar. It’s the GE CJ-805-23 engine you’re looking fo...

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by cedarjet
Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: "Dry airspace"
Replies: 37
Views: 5064

Re: "Dry airspace"

It’s interesting what can come with overflight rules. To me the most obvious case is countries insisting on a certain number of flights per week actually landing at that country’s main airport, usually because said country is in bad shape and lacks true demand, so it’s a way of artificially creating...

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by cedarjet
Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737 going around several times at MAN
Replies: 7
Views: 2120

Re: B737 going around several times at MAN

In the early days of the pandemic when I guess it was hoped this wouldn’t be a multi-year event, Ryanair earmarked a chunk of the fleet to keep ready for a restart of operations (starting a Boeing after 6 days is an engineering issue) and were going to not only do regular circuits at Stansted for re...

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by cedarjet
Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QR 77W at CLT
Replies: 25
Views: 5064

Re: QR 77W at CLT

As a oneworld hub Charlotte must have to been in the top five of Qatar’s USA to-do list. Wonder if it was ever considered in any detail.

JohanTally wrote:
Thanks for the answers. Mods feel free to delete

Don’t encourage them!

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by cedarjet
Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Two ATR 72 of CSA impounded at PRG
Replies: 17
Views: 4497

Re: Two ATR 72 of CSA impounded at PRG

While I’m a fan of historic flag carriers and had a great trip to Beirut on Malév in August 2001 which you can guess included my last couple of jumpseat rides before you-know-what, reality is Budapest had more traffic than in Malév days within a couple of years. easyJet and Wizz et al do a better jo...

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by cedarjet
Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reasons for DC-8 stopping production earlier than the 707?
Replies: 24
Views: 6077

Re: Reasons for DC-8 stopping production earlier than the 707?

True that 1970s 707s were mostly military but there were a few very late-build passenger liners — CAAC, Kuwait, Nigeria Airways etc. The last ones I’m aware of were delivered to Saudia, around 1977. Weird there were 707s less than ten years old when Airbus were building A320s.

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by cedarjet
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New JetBlue Mint Studio suite
Replies: 170
Views: 19202

Re: New JetBlue Mint Studio suite

I won’t fly this for two reasons. One is the old style herringbone is the worst of all worlds, airlines that had it first time round got rid of it as fast as they could except for leisure carrier Virgin Atlantic. I experienced it on Cathay and Air Canada and it’s crap. The second reason is that ther...

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by cedarjet
Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Odds of buying older generation jets like 707, DC-10/MD-11?
Replies: 56
Views: 7284

Re: Odds of buying older generation jets like 707, DC-10/MD-11?

If you restored a Boeing 707, people wouldn’t pay to fly on it because it’s so similar to a 25 year old 737-400. Indeed if you painted a 707 in current Ryanair livery and parked it next to one of their 737-800s, a general member of the public would not be able to tell you which one was the antique. ...

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by cedarjet
Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pegasus A320NEO landing with nosegear at 90 degrees at BSL
Replies: 28
Views: 5318

Re: Pegasus A320NEO landing with nosegear at 90 degrees at BSL

This seems like an Airbus trademark at this point

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by cedarjet
Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why no second commercial airport for Atlanta?
Replies: 186
Views: 22017

Re: Why no second commercial airport for Atlanta?

The whole point of Atlanta is it’s a — the — connecting hub. A second airport would have zero Delta flights, so that’s 80% of the market right there that won’t move over. What’s left, a handful of United and Spirit A320s, and a BA 777-200ER. Hardly seems worth the effort. And is Hartsfield actually ...

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by cedarjet
Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Would Alaska 261 not crash if the stabiliser trims werent touched?
Replies: 23
Views: 5727

Re: Would Alaska 261 not crash if the stabiliser trims werent touched?

The crew were criticised because of a couple of lines on the CVR about trying to be test pilots, and in answer to your question, it is possible the tail might have held together if they hadn’t touched anything but the aeroplane was basically unflyable. Really awful accident. Shame on Alaska Airlines...

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by cedarjet
Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Ukraine and Ukraine International question
Replies: 5
Views: 1313

Re: Air Ukraine and Ukraine International question

I flew Aerosvit JFK KBP in April 2010 and other than being two hours late, was a really nice ride. Very bashed up old 767-300ER but comfy, decent food, all good. I’ve flown Ukraine International quite a few times short haul, never tried them long haul although 8 abreast on a 767 is brutal. I like th...

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by cedarjet
Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:24 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Biden’s Safety
Replies: 80
Views: 4764

Re: Biden’s Safety

The media have made the country ungovernable. Half the population were told every night Obama was a Kenyan Muslim, then the other half were told every night that Trump is a Russian spy. Madness

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by cedarjet
Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:16 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Are Americans Ready To Talk About Mass Mental Illness?
Replies: 50
Views: 3591

Re: Are Americans Ready To Talk About Mass Mental Illness?

The media has made the country ungovernable. Half the people think Obama was a Kenyan Muslim, the other half think Trump’s a Russian spy. Madness

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by cedarjet
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:48 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why do AnadoluJet operate SAW-STN rather than Turkish Airlines operate IST-STN?
Replies: 3
Views: 433

Re: Why do AnadoluJet operate SAW-STN rather than Turkish Airlines operate IST-STN?

I took THY in October 2008 STN-IST (737-800) en route to Damascus, returned to LHR (A330-300), so not only did the flight exist but it was apparently common-rated with Heathrow (I say that because I wouldn’t have asked the booking engine to fly me out of one and back to the other, it must have been ...

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by cedarjet
Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:25 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Flying an unmodified, original 747-100 in 2021
Replies: 26
Views: 8139

Re: Flying an unmodified, original 747-100 in 2021

Well the Iranian Air Force is still flying an old 747-131, I wonder if they’ve updated it along the way OR because it’s military it’s exempt from regulations OR they accept that it can only be deployed within Iranian airspace.

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by cedarjet
Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sriwijaya Air 737-500 (SJ182 CGK-PNK) crashes shortly after takeoff
Replies: 829
Views: 234865

Re: Sriwijaya Air 737-500 (SJ182 CGK-PNK) crashes shortly after takeoff

Sriwijaya Air has a poor safety record, even for Indonesia. Plenty of incidents and a fatal accident within the last 12 years, especially with such a small number of aircraft. Recently they severed their relationship with Garuda and there were conflicts over payment for maintenance services and fea...

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by cedarjet
Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When UPS Flew Passengers
Replies: 21
Views: 6502

Re: When UPS Flew Passengers

The planes were so old that they were beaten out of shape by many landings etc, so the interiors weren’t really interchangeable, and they initially suffered delays and cancellations because the QC interior waiting at a station on a Friday afternoon wouldn’t fit. They figured out pretty quickly that ...

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by cedarjet
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Senegal announces Lyon-Dakar 3 weekly
Replies: 20
Views: 2867

Re: Air Senegal announces Lyon-Dakar 3 weekly

davidjohnson6 wrote:
The question all a.netters in Europe want answered (once lockdown ends)... does Air Senegal have rights to sell tickets and carry pax for the sector which doesn't touch Senegal ?

On a domestic sector within France op by non-EU airline? Non.

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by cedarjet
Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:46 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: When did Aeroflot fly to Sydney, Australia?
Replies: 17
Views: 4200

Re: When did Aeroflot fly to Sydney, Australia?

Imagine flying from Moscow to Sydney on an Il-62. Too amazing for words. Heartbroken I didn’t know about it at the time

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by cedarjet
Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:59 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: COVID Test Now Required To Enter Turkey
Replies: 14
Views: 1261

Re: COVID Test Now Required To Enter Turkey

I would imagine it absolutely includes transit passengers. Can’t imagine that it doesn’t. If THY can’t give a good answer, which scenario sounds better:

1. Get it unnecessarily, and are able to travel
2. Don’t get it but turns out the rule applies to transit pax, and thus unable to travel

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by cedarjet
Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada Vanguard belly landing 1960’s Montreal YUL
Replies: 6
Views: 2017

Re: Air Canada Vanguard belly landing 1960’s Montreal YUL

Looks like Eastern had a similar event in Boston on the same day PS welcome back

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by cedarjet
Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rada Airlines takes second Il62
Replies: 44
Views: 8338

Re: Rada Airlines takes second Il62

She’s airborne right now, an Il-62F climbing out of Doncaster UK, destination Bishkek. How exotic is that in 2020?

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by cedarjet
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Question about export of MD80s to Iran and sanctions
Replies: 37
Views: 5203

Re: Question about export of MD80s to Iran and sanctions

B757Forever wrote:
This is the first time I've ever seen "MD80" and "technology" in the same sentence.

Also includes “do not include” and “beyond the age limitations” to be fair...!

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by cedarjet
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - Q4 2020
Replies: 321
Views: 27351

Re: All UK-NL air travel banned due to New COVID

What about U.K. to Düsseldorf followed by a short train ride to Amsterdam?

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by cedarjet
Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:30 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Cathay Pacific A330 replacement
Replies: 43
Views: 4010

Re: Cathay Pacific A330 replacement

Let the fleet shrink by natural attrition, and the young uns soldier on. True for a lot of airlines. Wouldn’t want to be in the business of selling new aeroplanes for the foreseeable future. A359 replace some middle-range route such as Australia and India HK to Sydney is at least nine hours, it’s re...

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by cedarjet
Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:14 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Type Certificate from 767-300 to 767-300ER
Replies: 17
Views: 3515

Re: Type Certificate from 767-300 to 767-300ER

What are the physical differences? I flew on a Delta 767-300A PDX ATL a few years ago which was exciting for my inner spotter as they’re rarer than the ER but the passenger experience and aircraft appearance was indistinguishable from an ER. It’s more than a paperwork difference or a tank fitted but...

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by cedarjet
Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Early Jet Age NWA Transpacific Schedules
Replies: 4
Views: 2158

Re: Early Jet Age NWA Transpacific Schedules

Awful timings. Can’t go into town because everything’s shut, not enough time to go to a hotel except for maybe four hours’ sleep. Wonder what ground arrangements were like?

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by cedarjet
Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is this Emirates new premium economy seat?
Replies: 37
Views: 7961

Re: Is this Emirates new premium economy seat?

Doesn’t look too amazing. For me the one thing you’re paying for in premium economy is to not be sharing an armrest and this seat barely qualifies. And agree their product isn’t that amazing, 10 abreast on a 777 that’s in the air for at least 15h eg flight to the west coast, absolutely horrendous. T...

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by cedarjet
Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today [04DEC].
Replies: 156
Views: 13393

Re: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today.

They would have been absolutely incredible to fly with in the 30s to the 60s. The Flying Boats provided a degree of luxury not found in any heavier-than-air transport since, not even Singapore Suites (and one way SFO HKG was $20k in 2020 money, that’s how exclusive it was). And a 707 down through th...

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