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by aerotech777
Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:33 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Portable External Oil Cooler
Replies: 11
Views: 2629

Re: Portable External Oil Cooler

My companies version of the Boeing 737 MAX and NG AMM includes the PEOC. Unfortunately it references using instructions on the PEOC to connect it to the plane. Thanks for confirming that the PEOC is mentioned in the 737 AMM. I only just realized it was the case drain flow by itself that gets cooled...

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by aerotech777
Sun Jun 05, 2022 10:31 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Portable External Oil Cooler
Replies: 11
Views: 2629

Re: Portable External Oil Cooler

Thanks for the feedback. There is only mention in the AMM to avoid operating the hydraulic system without enough fuel in tank for cooling, and to monitor hydraulic temeprature in case of overheat. But generally speaking at maintenence stage there is no real reason to operate the hydraulic system for...

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by aerotech777
Mon May 30, 2022 5:58 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Portable External Oil Cooler
Replies: 11
Views: 2629

Re: Portable External Oil Cooler

Thanks for the feedback. I've never personally seen such a device used. It seems this device is relatively new, may be used since 2 years. That's why I am asking if AMTs are using this device. You must be referring to an External Hydraulic Cart. It is used in heavy Maintenance eg when the Aircrafts ...

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by aerotech777
Sun May 29, 2022 2:27 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Portable External Oil Cooler
Replies: 11
Views: 2629

Portable External Oil Cooler

Hi, As you know sometimes hydraulic power unit (mule) is used for aircraft maintenance especially inside hangar. I have been told there is portable external oil cooler (PEOC) which is used inside hanger on 737 MAX. This PEOC is used to cool the hydraulic pumps (electrically driven) when the fuel tan...

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by aerotech777
Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:02 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Safety Hazards In/Around Aircraft
Replies: 13
Views: 3768

Re: Safety Hazards In/Around Aircraft

General Maintenance Manual, General Policies and Procedures Manual, Ground Operations Manual. These are Some of the different manuals, among many others, that operators use to govern their maintenance and ground operations. They are FAA approved and violating the procedures in those manuals can res...

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by aerotech777
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:35 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Safety Hazards In/Around Aircraft
Replies: 13
Views: 3768

Re: Safety Hazards In/Around Aircraft

Pilot are also exposed to noise. Why pilots are NOT included in this policy? mea culpa.

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by aerotech777
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:02 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Safety Hazards In/Around Aircraft
Replies: 13
Views: 3768

Re: Safety Hazards In/Around Aircraft

Where are the instructions for LOTO located? They are in the AMM. If you don't follow the instructions in the AMM for LOTO, you're in violation of the FAR's. If you have policies or procedures in your GMM, GPP, GOM , whatever, for LOTO and you're not folloing those procedures, you're in violation o...

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by aerotech777
Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:03 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Safety Hazards In/Around Aircraft
Replies: 13
Views: 3768

Re: Safety Hazards In/Around Aircraft

Press Release – FAA Proposes $210,000 Civil Penalty Against Alaska Airlines For Immediate Release May 3, 2012 Contact: Allen Kenitzer or Mike Fergus Phone: (425) 227-2004 SEATTLE – The Federal Aviation Administration is proposing a civil penalty of $210,000 against Alaska Airlines of Seattle for al...

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by aerotech777
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:39 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Boeing 727 flap sequence
Replies: 26
Views: 3623

Re: Boeing 727 flap sequence

Such an impressive flaps system! Flaps used to be so impressive on old aircraft, they extended so much. In today's aircraft, you can barely see them. What was impressive was the maintenance effort required to keep them working. All the flaps. slats and Krugers were robust. The slats were all metal....

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by aerotech777
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:05 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Safety Hazards In/Around Aircraft
Replies: 13
Views: 3768

Safety Hazards In/Around Aircraft

As you know working on and around airplane in hangar or flight line can present safety hazards. I am not talking about safety hazard caused by vehicles and equipment around aircraft in the ramp or in the hangar, but the powered or active (electric power on, hydraulic, pneumatic...etc) aircraft itsel...

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by aerotech777
Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:07 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Oxygen masks dropped accidentally
Replies: 10
Views: 1851

Re: Oxygen masks dropped accidentally

Thanks guys for the feedback. I thought may be in nowadays aircraft the operation of the oxygen switch is inhibited on ground (works only in flight: air/ground switch) Dalmd88 confirmed it is possible to activate accidentally the oxygen switch. I read some of these articles before I posted my post i...

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by aerotech777
Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:39 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Oxygen masks dropped accidentally
Replies: 10
Views: 1851

Oxygen masks dropped accidentally

I never saw or heard about dropping aircraft masks accidentally on ground when I was working long time ago as AMT in B737-200 and B727. So I assume pilots (on the first flight of the day) when testing the oxygen masks, they have to use the test switch on oxygen box without turning the oxygen switch ...

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by aerotech777
Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:36 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Emergency oxygen cylinders European airlines
Replies: 14
Views: 3074

Re: Emergency oxygen cylinders European airlines

I will clarify my second question because it seems I was not clear. I was wondering if oxygen bottles are installed inside hangar: assembly line for aircraft manufacturers or maintenance hangar for airlines. For example if aircraft manufacturers install the oxygen bottles outside the assembly for sa...

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by aerotech777
Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:25 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Emergency oxygen cylinders European airlines
Replies: 14
Views: 3074

Re: Emergency oxygen cylinders European airlines

When I worked on the line, I reckon about one aircraft in 10 arrived with used oxygen bottles. We never changed the bottles, because it was a nightmare to ship the bottles around as cargo (dangerous goods). Really really difficult for a small outstation to arrange.. But we carried spare masks. If t...

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by aerotech777
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:40 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What is that on this 737’s landing gear?
Replies: 9
Views: 4794

Re: What is that on this 737’s landing gear?

I used to work on 737-200 long time ago and we had few planes with gravel deflector. We used longer jack to raise the strut higher to remove the wheels. If I remember correctly the vortex dissipators were removed from the engines later on (at least for the airline I was working for) because of blade...

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by aerotech777
Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Out of Curiosity: Two Different Engines on Same Airframe Safer?
Replies: 24
Views: 3647

Re: Out of Curiosity: Two Different Engines on Same Airframe Safer?

Not really in the same subject of the thread, but different engines are installed for example on a same aircraft for testing new engine (common practice). Even one UDF engine (Propfan) was installed on aircraft (I think it was B727) to test purpose. I remember when Boeing was saying that in Boeing 7...

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by aerotech777
Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:45 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Lion Air crash from maintenance perpective
Replies: 13
Views: 2646

Re: Lion Air crash from maintenance perpective

I forgot to mention that there is risk of damaging the ADM during the flush if the AMT exceeds certain pressure with the ADM connected to the system.

I am wondering if a leak check for pitot and static system is recommended for such defect (IAS and ALT disagree).

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by aerotech777
Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:14 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Lion Air crash from maintenance perpective
Replies: 13
Views: 2646

Lion Air crash from maintenance perpective

There was a lot of talk regarding Lion Air Crash especially about MCAS, pilots, AOA sensor, etc... There was also talk about the poor safety record. I would like to talk about aircraft maintenance, more importantly about the compliance with the procedures in the AMM (Aircraft Maintenance Manual) and...

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by aerotech777
Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:58 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Compressor wash and carbon deposits
Replies: 22
Views: 3603

Re: Compressor wash and carbon deposits

Thanks for your replies. the LIX wash system we used flushed all kinds of soot and Carbon out of the engine, It took a long time but it's now used to restore engine performance. It will restore proper Spray pattern to the Start Nozzles and clean the total Gas Path, I just wish I'd have invented it!!...

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by aerotech777
Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:39 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Compressor wash and carbon deposits
Replies: 22
Views: 3603

Re: Compressor wash and carbon deposits

Thanks guys for your replies. I am a former AMT, so I am little bit familiar with jet engines and ignition system in the jet engines. It is my bad, I should say igniter plugs instead of spark plugs. I know the combustion in jet engines self-sustains but the ignition is turned on certain critical pha...

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by aerotech777
Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:37 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Compressor wash and carbon deposits
Replies: 22
Views: 3603

Re: Compressor wash and carbon deposits

Thanks guys for your replies. I am a former AMT, so I am little bit familiar with jet engines and ignition system in the jet engines. It is my bad, I should say igniter plugs instead of spark plugs. I know the combustion in jet engines self-sustains but the ignition is turned on certain critical pha...

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by aerotech777
Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:31 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Compressor wash and carbon deposits
Replies: 22
Views: 3603

Compressor wash and carbon deposits

Hi, Years ago we had problems with the CFM-56-2 and the -3's We figured out the fuel nozzles were clogging and leaking and failing due to being coked up. We instituted an engine wash program which cleaned the fuel nozzles and all of that ended. But only after having changed 100's of fuel nozzles fir...

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by aerotech777
Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320neo Family Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 689
Views: 213608

Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Hi,


a) How long it takes to build A320 in the final assembly line? I mean here from day one in the FAL to roll out from it.


c) How long it takes A320 from roll out to delivery?

Feedback appreciated.

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by aerotech777
Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:48 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Final assembly Line: Boeing vs airbus
Replies: 2
Views: 1433

Final assembly Line: Boeing vs airbus

Hi, I have some questions regarding Boeing and Airbus FAL (final assembly line). Please disregard the problem of supply chain (engines...etc). I take as example :B737 vs A320 and A350 vs B787. Please be objective and if possible provide evidence. a) What are the advantages and disadvantages of the F...

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by aerotech777
Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:17 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Nose wheel Brakes on Airliners
Replies: 129
Views: 10921

Re: Nose wheel Brakes on Airliners

Hi, I worked on B727 with nose wheel brakes long time ago. If I recall correctly I changed only one time the nose wheel brakes because of hydraulic leak (from the pistons of the brake). I never changed the nose wheel brakes because of the wear in the brakes on B727. Also on B727 I rarely changed the...

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by aerotech777
Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:54 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?
Replies: 143
Views: 16891

Re: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?

Hi, IIMU that the crew's early decision to start the APU (an item they never reached in the checklist), allowing the flight control system to remain in Normal Law with attendant envelope protections, was cited by authorities as a major contributor to the successful outcome of the ditching. I would a...

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by aerotech777
Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:29 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?
Replies: 143
Views: 16891

Re: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?

Hi, Good question. I couldn't find photos showing the aft doors open while in the water. What could have made the A320 tail heavy? Fuel tanks in the horizontal stabilizers? Fully loaded containers? The ditching pushbutton can also be found on the 330/340 and the 350. It does get used in normal ops w...

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by aerotech777
Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:35 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A350 EDP clutch
Replies: 10
Views: 2422

Re: A350 EDP clutch

Thanks zeke for your post. zeke wrote: The clutch disconnect can be used by Crew from the cockpit in response to some faults or can be activated on the pump by mechanics to dispatch the aircraft under the MEL with one of the 4 EDPs inoperative. a) Does the pilot use a switch from the cockpit to disc...

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by aerotech777
Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:11 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A350 EDP clutch
Replies: 10
Views: 2422

Re: A350 EDP clutch

Thanks for the feedback. I am aware of the depressurization solenoid (the switch in the cockpit should remain ON to prolong solenoid life) of the EDP. Since A350 is [b][b] new [/b][/b] aircraft I said may be the EDP is fitted with a clutch as it is mentioned in link above. So I am wondering if the A...

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by aerotech777
Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:58 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A350 EDP clutch
Replies: 10
Views: 2422

A350 EDP clutch

Hi, http://www.smartcockpit.com/docs/a350-900-flight-deck-and-systems-briefing-for-pilots.pdf In the link above (ATA 29, page 29.3), it is said that "The Hydraulic System Monitoring Unit (HSMU) monitors EDP clutch". -What's the function of the clutch in this EDP (engine driven pump)? -Besi...

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by aerotech777
Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:14 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Bowed Rotor
Replies: 13
Views: 8228

Bowed Rotor

Hi, I have few questions regarding bowed rotor on <acronym title="Precision Air Services (United Rep. of Tanzania)">PW</acronym> 1100 engine. If I am not mistaken this problem was discovered after the engine was certified. a) Why <acronym title="Precision Air Services (United Rep. of Tanzania)">PW</...

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by aerotech777
Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321neo Out Of Action
Replies: 84
Views: 30734

RE: A321neo Out Of Action

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Part147" class="quote" target="_blank">Part147</a> (<a href="#56" class="quote">Reply 56</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> Both pictures t...

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by aerotech777
Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: QRH: Avoid Icing Conditions
Replies: 4
Views: 3745

QRH: Avoid Icing Conditions

Hi, I was reading 737 QRH (online document) and I found this statement "Avoid icing conditions" for certain cases such wing-body overheat or bleed trip off. First I want to say I am not pilot and I don't know if this document is updated. If I am not mistaken icing conditions mean: <acronym title="Po...

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by aerotech777
Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:40 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: LP Turbine Stages: Leap 1A Vs PW1000G
Replies: 2
Views: 3414

LP Turbine Stages: Leap 1A Vs PW1000G

Hi, Leap 1A (A320neo) is fitted with 7 <acronym title="Lan Peru">LP</acronym> turbine stages. PW1000G (A320neo) is fitted with 3 <acronym title="Lan Peru">LP</acronym> turbine stages. Why such difference for <acronym title="Lan Peru">LP</acronym> turbine stages? Feedback appreciated. Regards

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by aerotech777
Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:58 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: The Efficiency Of Rain Gutters On Aircraft
Replies: 13
Views: 9902

RE: The Efficiency Of Rain Gutters On Aircraft

Quote from another forum: "Boeing 747 aircraft have to be inspected for heavy water ingress to the <acronym title="Manta - General Eloy Alfaro (MEC / SEMT), Ecuador">MEC</acronym> if large amounts of rain water has entered via the forward doors. An electrical nightmare that has had many modification...

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by aerotech777
Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:35 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: The Efficiency Of Rain Gutters On Aircraft
Replies: 13
Views: 9902

RE: The Efficiency Of Rain Gutters On Aircraft

Hi, I have some questions regarding the pic on the following link: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/flightblogger/4348102892/in/set-72157623280980561" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/flightb...348102892/in/set-72157623280980561</a> a) The rain gutter above the cargo door seems bigg...

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by aerotech777
Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:45 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: The Efficiency Of Rain Gutters On Aircraft
Replies: 13
Views: 9902

RE: The Efficiency Of Rain Gutters On Aircraft

a) Besides the regular rain gutters, some aircraft are fitted with additional rain gutters. For example there is rain gutter above the upper hinge on each entry and service galley B 737 <acronym title="Lauda Air (Austria)">NG</acronym>. Why these additional rain gutters (above the upper hinge of the...

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by aerotech777
Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:46 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: The Efficiency Of Rain Gutters On Aircraft
Replies: 13
Views: 9902

The Efficiency Of Rain Gutters On Aircraft

Hi, I have some questions regarding the efficiency of rain gutters (metal strips above aircraft doors) on aircraft. I am talking here about airliners (Boeing, Airbus,...etc.). I mean by efficiency: less corrosion around door entry, comfort for passengers (rain water not dripping on passengers while ...

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by aerotech777
Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:50 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Boeing 737 MAX FBW Spoiler System
Replies: 21
Views: 21483

RE: Boeing 737 MAX FBW Spoiler System

Thanks for the feedback. <table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/boeingfixer" class="quote" target="_blank">boeingfixer</a> (<a href="#2" class="quote">Reply 2</a>):<br/><i>This is a m...

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by aerotech777
Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:20 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Boeing 737 MAX FBW Spoiler System
Replies: 21
Views: 21483

Boeing 737 MAX FBW Spoiler System

Hi, Boeing opted FBW for the spoiler system. Boeing made few changes in B 737 MAX in order to reduce the cost. Yet Boeing adopted FBW for the spoiler system which it seems to me it is big change. Why Boeing opted FBW specifically for the spoiler system ? Why not FBW for rudder, elevator, or aileron ...

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by aerotech777
Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing And Their Unions - The Future? Part 2
Replies: 92
Views: 9708

RE: Boeing And Their Unions - The Future? Part 2

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Stitch" class="quote" target="_blank">Stitch</a> (<a href="#2" class="quote">Reply 2</a>):<br/><i>According to local news radio, there seems to ...

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by aerotech777
Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:19 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Labor Unions: Boeing Vs Airbus
Replies: 58
Views: 17771

Labor Unions: Boeing Vs Airbus

I have an brief idea about unions at Boeing such IAM 751 or the SPEEA. I don't know about labor unions at Airbus. a) I am wondering if Airbus has unions for machinists, engineers...etc. It seems that Boeing want reduce some benefits for machinists to be more competitive than Airbus. That's what Boei...

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by aerotech777
Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:20 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Vmcg Testing
Replies: 20
Views: 13061

RE: Vmcg Testing

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/OldAeroGuy" class="quote" target="_blank">OldAeroGuy</a> (<a href="#18" class="quote">Reply 18</a>):<br/><i>EASA has allowed the use of lateral ...

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by aerotech777
Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:48 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Vmcg Testing
Replies: 20
Views: 13061

RE: Vmcg Testing

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/zeke" class="quote" target="_blank">zeke</a> (<a href="#14" class="quote">Reply 14</a>):<br/><i>Minimum control speed are a function of the airf...

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by aerotech777
Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:24 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Leak Check (air, Hydraulic, Oil, And Fuel)
Replies: 22
Views: 9285

RE: Leak Check (air, Hydraulic, Oil, And Fuel)

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/yeelep" class="quote" target="_blank">yeelep</a> (<a href="#20" class="quote">Reply 20</a>):<br/><i>737NG AMM 71-71-00 engine vents and drains i...

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by aerotech777
Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:03 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Leak Check (air, Hydraulic, Oil, And Fuel)
Replies: 22
Views: 9285

RE: Leak Check (air, Hydraulic, Oil, And Fuel)

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Apprentice" class="quote" target="_blank">Apprentice</a> (<a href="#18" class="quote">Reply 18</a>):<br/><i>For both Boeing and Airbus, AMM from...

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by aerotech777
Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:27 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Leak Check (air, Hydraulic, Oil, And Fuel)
Replies: 22
Views: 9285

RE: Leak Check (air, Hydraulic, Oil, And Fuel)

Thank you for your feedback <table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/VC-10" class="quote" target="_blank">VC-10</a> (<a href="#4" class="quote">Reply 4</a>):<br/><i>Which type of leak c...

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by aerotech777
Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:46 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Leak Check (air, Hydraulic, Oil, And Fuel)
Replies: 22
Views: 9285

RE: Leak Check (air, Hydraulic, Oil, And Fuel)

Certain hydraulic components require driving the engine driven pump (for example EDP pressure filter, EDP case drain filter, ...etc.). In addition the electric pump provides low hydraulic flow (volume) compared to EDP especially for certain hydraulic users (for example slats if I am not mistaken).

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by aerotech777
Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:19 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Leak Check (air, Hydraulic, Oil, And Fuel)
Replies: 22
Views: 9285

Leak Check (air, Hydraulic, Oil, And Fuel)

Hi, If I am not mistaken dry motoring drives <acronym title="Aerolineas Internacionales SA de CV (Mexico)">N2</acronym>/N3 to around 20%-25% <acronym title="Aerolineas Internacionales SA de CV (Mexico)">N2</acronym>/N3. I am assuming N1 will be driven at very low speed: may be 1% or 3% N1 ??? a) Whe...

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by aerotech777
Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:38 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A320 And A321 Water Tank
Replies: 12
Views: 15258

RE: A320 And A321 Water Tank

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/yeelep" class="quote" target="_blank">yeelep</a> (<a href="#2" class="quote">Reply 2</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> Not Airbus, but the...

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