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Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2023

Can somebody here comment on the status of KLM's A332 and A333 interiors? I believe KLM had announced the A330s cabin refurbishment back in 2018. https://www.futuretravelexperience.com/2018/03/klm-introduces-new-airbus-330-200-cabin-interior/ Were all A332s and A333s refurbished or was it just the A...

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Re: India Aviation - 2023

I can't comment on LH or AF but recently flew DL/KLM combo into BOM (Y) and I agree with you that it was extremely subpar. The A330 was dated, the seats were uncomfortable, my seat jack for the earphones was broken and the entertainment system was clunky and basically 2010s. No choice of food - eve...

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Re: India Aviation - 2023

Not really. I think they implemented the transit visa rule only if you are traveling to the UK. If you are traveling anywhere else, you usually do not need a transit visa. Nothing has changed if you are traveling to the US. The transit visa rule is definitely back on (traveling West to East) if you...

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Re: Delta LAX Terminal modernization opening

I assume VS will move back to T2 to co-locate again with DL and so Upper Class passengers can have convenient access to the Delta One Lounge? Does VS need to move to T2? Can they not stay at TBIT? And is the D1 lounge going to be built at T2? I was under the impression the gate area of T2 was not g...

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Re: Delta LAX Terminal modernization opening

Will DL be using the north end gates at TBIT? How many do they have access to? Last time I flew out of those gates, about five years ago, that end of the terminal was not very impressive. Has it been remodeled since? It’s my understanding there are no plans to rebuild it like the rest of TBIT. I be...

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Re: Delta LAX Terminal modernization opening

I assume VS will move back to T2 to co-locate again with DL and so Upper Class passengers can have convenient access to the Delta One Lounge? Does VS need to move to T2? Can they not stay at TBIT? And is the D1 lounge going to be built at T2? I was under the impression the gate area of T2 was not g...

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Re: What Have been the Best Airports In Attracting New Airlines and Routes?

Sfo has added mad, bcn, doh, fco. Del, bom, blr, lis, bne, mel, chc, ppt, sin, nan, ory, sgn and that's only international . Given covid and down cycle in tech this is remarkable. All of these in last 5 or 6 years. The SFO airport has not attracted all the routes you mentioned. The routes are added...

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Re: India Aviation - 2023

Lufthansa flies Frankfurt to Chennai with a similar schedule to the upcoming Frankfurt to Hyderabad route. I know that the Frankfurt to Chennai route is seperate, but it seems to do well with connecting traffic arriving in the first morning bank of flights from Germany and Europe, along with long h...

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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion - 2023

Has MAN-LAX been flown before? I think the issue with the route is that it would have to rely heavily on O&D at both LAX and MAN. Something like 4x weekly A339 might work. It's definitely something VS could try out at some point. There are far more connections on DL from LAX than LAS. LAS is de...

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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion - 2023

Interesting that VS is launching MAN-LAS and not MAN-LAX. Or did I miss the LAX announcement? In spite of all the tourist traffic to LAS, I would have thought LAX would have the better yields. Has MAN-LAX been flown before? I think the issue with the route is that it would have to rely heavily on O...

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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion - 2023

Virgin today are going to announce the return of Manchester to Las Vegas, a route last served in 2020. They’d planned daily flights for Summer 2020 following the demise of Thomas Cook, IIRC they served it 3 or 4 times a week beforehand. MAN-LAS has always traditionally done rather well and it is ni...

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Re: Delta LAX Terminal modernization opening

This might have been addressed deep in this thread somewhere, but in Delta's media kit for LAX expansion/reno, they say that Delta serves the top 19 of 20 markets for LA passengers. Then below, they contradict themselves and say they serve 18 of top 20 markets. So, who are those one or two markets ...

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Re: India Aviation - 2023

There is also the added complication of Germany requiring some Indian passport holders to have a transit visa enroute to India. I don't know why they reinstated that silly rule. I am pretty sure they are losing a decent amount of traffic to that, particularly in the post Covid immigration scenario....

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Re: Airport Mistakes

ONT. The new terminal that opened in 1998 should of been one large terminal with a parallel concourse like SNA. SNA has a parallel concourse? Not sure what you are saying. There is no parallel concourse at SNA. SNA is one long terminal split into three mini-terminals A, B and C. Terminal C was adde...

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Re: Airport Mistakes

CVG's design of international arrivals for destination flyers is lengthy. Have to deplane, collect checked bags, go through passport control and customs, re-check checked bag, and go through TSA, travel from concourse B to terminal, and then re-collect bag at the regular bag claim just to get to th...

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Re: Smaller cities with 2 commercial airports

Not a city but the state of Goa in India has two airports, GOI and the new GOX just about 30-35 miles apart.
Goa is tiny in size compared to most cities.

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Re: Nastiest Airline Rivalries

Boeing757100 wrote:
Nothing tops QR and DL

Not QR and DL individually. It was part of the US3 vs ME3.
DL parking a A320 at the only A380 capable gate at ATL was just to rub it in and QR happened to bear the brunt since EK and EY did not fly to ATL.

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Re: India Aviation - 2023

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230526-lhjan24hyd

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Re: India Aviation - 2023

sibibom wrote:
Hell has frozen over, first ever Boeing in 6E's livery

https://twitter.com/aviationbrk/status/1662753213332824066?s=20

What's with the tiny font size on the tail?!

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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion - 2023

Just noticed Virgin Atlantic schedule out of IAD this summer is a bit strange, with the arrival from LHR at 10:30pm, but the departure from IAD being at 6pm. Having a plane on the ground for almost 20 hours doesn't seem to be the best use of aircraft utilization Agree. Very strange to be on the gro...

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Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

How many DL LAX routes were added post-COVID or have had their capacity increased from pre to post-virus? AKL, PPT, LHR, MIA, DAL, EGE, IAH, and the extra 3x weekly SYD come to mind. Any others? Don't forget CDG CDG was flown pre-Covid by DL. This is just the resumption of the route. In fact AF is ...

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Re: Small airports that still have several intercontinental flights

SAN has service to Europe But I wouldn't exactly call it a small airport. I think we're talking smaller airports here, SAN is too big. Are we talking cities or airports? Thread title says airport. San Diego is a pretty big city but I wouldn't necessarily call the airport big, especially not for int...

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Re: Small airports that still have several intercontinental flights

SAN has service to Europe

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AA Flight Attendants Suspect Father to be a Human Trafficker

This is an unusual case... never heard of before. https://www.yahoo.com/news/father-traveling-13-old-daughter-100000403.html AA flight attendants suspected a father of being a human trafficker when traveling with his daughter. The flight attendants talked to the daughter when the father was in the l...

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Re: Multi-airport cities where both airports are considered “premium”

SNA in not in Los Angeles, heck it is not even in Los Angeles county. SNA serves the larger LA metropolitan area but is it really a LA airport?
Plus SNA is dominated by WN. It does have a AA lounge and decent service by other carriers as well.

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Re: Multi City Airports - that are usually referred to by just one city…..

CVG - Cincinnati (located in Covington, KY but nobody says that)

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Re: DL134 May 5 Diversion

https://www.yahoo.com/news/delta-flight ... 54560.html

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Re: India Aviation - 2023

Yes AI benefits, but I feel UA pulled the plug too soon. UA pulls out even if there is a slightest dip in the revenues or other issues. They were flying ORD-DEL (non stop both directions) until last month, so the Russian air space restriction did not affect this flight as all other sectors required...

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Re: Europe to Tahiti via LAX ...

Maybe so but it does make a difference because they are still ticketed on TN. if there is a flight delay on the SK flight or something and the connection missed in LAX then no come back on separate tickets. The thing is screw going via the US He has 11 hours at LAX. He should be okay even if his SK...

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Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

And why should DL run SEA-SYD? Has DL said they want to start SEA-SYD? Why will they jeopardize the LAX-SYD flight when they can route any SEA passengers through LAX? SEA-LAX-SYD is more than 700 miles longer than SEA-SYD nonstop, and SEA has better connecting options to Australia through HNL on AS...

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Re: Delta asks DOT to move Haneda route authorities

Delta needs to protect the franchise and not let AA/AS run them off SEA to HND which could unravel the SEA TransPac hub (which is what AS has been trying to do for years). And yes I will argue again that DL does not have the right equipment. They don't have an aircraft to economically fly SEA to SY...

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Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

On Delta’s Partners page AF, KL, VS, MU, KE, AM, LA and WS are prominently displayed. Other SkyTeam members are buried via a link toward the bottom of the page. https://www.delta.com/us/en/airline-partners/overview Why? Does this suggest those airlines are not that valuable to DL? Does this suggest...

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Re: Short flights that are served “better” by trains

Are there any flights that operate from one airport to another in the same metro area? For example MDW to ORD or LAX to LGB? I believe there is LAX-SAN service. That is the closest today from LAX. But maybe sometimes it is faster than doing the 125 miles road trip. I think there was a LAX-SNA servi...

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Re: Europe to Tahiti via LAX ...

hongkongflyer wrote:
bad idea to transit via any USA airport when your final destination is not in USA and have other flight options

Where exactly are you expecting to transit other than USA when you are traveling from Europe to Tahiti??
Are there flights from Canada (maybe YVR?) or Mexico to Tahiti?

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Re: Short flights that are served “better” by trains

Are there any flights that operate from one airport to another in the same metro area? For example MDW to ORD or LAX to LGB? I believe there is LAX-SAN service. That is the closest today from LAX. But maybe sometimes it is faster than doing the 125 miles road trip. I think there was a LAX-SNA servi...

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Re: Los Angeles Basin (BUR/LAX/LGB/ONT/SNA) Aviation - 2023

If only LAX would somehow have some type of plan. It will forever be a mix of old and new terminals. T1 headhouse looks different from T1.5. T2 headhouse facade is 70s while T3 is brand new. T4 will have half the western headhouse a barrel shaped roof while the eastern portion is brand new. The con...

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Re: Breeze Airways - News and Discussion - 2023

Any insight into how the SNA-CVG or SNA-PIT routes are doing?

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Re: AA first class passenger "dragged" off after being refused a pre departure beverage

I’d love to see your source that defines an aircraft cabin as a public place. Last I checked American Airlines charges you to be there. It’s not a shopping mall or sidewalk where the public is free to wander. Big difference. Huh?? Public place does not always mean free use. You pay to get on a bus ...

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Re: Potential Air India A350-900 Routes

I don't know if the A359 can make BOM/DEL-LAX profitably.

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Re: Nonstop between LAX and India, still in the works?

Definitely not. No US3 is going to attempt LAX-India non stop in the near future. US3 non stops are going to be limited to - SFO,SEA,ORD,JFK,EWR,ATL at the maximum to start with by the US3. LAX-DEL/BOM may be attempted by AI that's about it. Don't think SEA is going to see any nonstops to India any...

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Re: Nonstop between LAX and India, still in the works?

AI came closest to starting DEL-LAX in 2017 but canned it at the last minute.
I believe they had even announced a service start date.

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Re: Delta LAX Terminal modernization opening

If you notice (in the link below) on level 1 in Bradley West, there is a "security checkpoint" as well as "passport control" in red. Passport control & security check in Bradley West? Doesn't make sense. Do you know what that is? https://maps.lawa.org/?s=eyJvbmxpbmUvaGVhZGVy...

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Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

Boeing757100 wrote:
rjbesikof wrote:
What resumes this month internationally?

ATL-TLV
ATL-DUS
ATL-STR
LAX-LHR
MSP-HND

and of course, SLC-ICN

It will be interesting to see how LAX-LHR does. DL operated the route for some time around 2015 or so but that did not last too long. I believe it was the B763 at that time.

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Re: Hawaiian Air Terminal at LAX

PSAatSAN4Ever wrote:
So, when T3 is finally rebuilt and opened again to passengers, will HA move again?

T2 and T3 will be all DL and DL partners only. HA will not be at T3.

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Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2023

We’re quickly approaching the busiest time of year and I noticed AF parking/storing 77W’s. Specifically, F-GZNT is now listed as stored @ ORY as of the end of January. This has to be one of AF’s newest 77W’s, no? Source - https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/boeing-777-300er-f-gznt-air-france/385...

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Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

What happened to all the DL A359s flying transatlantic? Just one from DTW and one ex-LATAM A359 from ATL? Wasn't all DTW-AMS on the A359 last spring/summer? Can we get a list of where all the DL A359s are currently flying to in their network? Currently: ATL-CPT ATL-HND ATL-HNL (A35L) ATL-ICN ATL-JN...

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Re: Opinion: If The Airline Calls A Doctor For You, You Need To Be Removed From The Plane

I flew CX880 today, HKG-LAX and we left about 25 minutes late because a passenger was feeling unwell and they called a physician to the plane - they allowed this passenger to travel however. We get to LAX about 10 minutes late but our gate at TBIT is occupied so we dock about 45 minutes late. Every...

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Re: Opinion: If The Airline Calls A Doctor For You, You Need To Be Removed From The Plane

Whilst I get your concern, I have an issue with your timeline of events and am requesting clarification here. You said you ended up getting off the plane 65 minutes late, which resulted in passengers missing their connections. You also said you got to LAX 10 minutes late and had to wait another 45 ...

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Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

All daily flights DL70/71 ATL-AMS A333 DL72/73 ATL-AMS A333 DL74/75 ATL-AMS A35L DL256/257 BOS-AMS A333 DL258/259 BOS-AMS A333 DL132/133 DTW-AMS A359 DL134/135 DTW-AMS A333 DL136/137 DTW-AMS A333 DL160/161 MSP-AMS A333 DL162/163 MSP-AMS A333 DL164/165 MSP-AMS A333 DL46/49 JFK-AMS A339 DL48/47 JFK-A...

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Re: Virgin Group suing Alaska Airlines over trademark royalties

AS should just put a "Virgin Fee" on every ticket and signs everywhere explaining the fee is to pay Virgin for not using their name. Maybe the bad publicity will get Virgin to agree to waive the payments it if they remove the signs and fees. Don't think it will be Virgin that gets the bad...

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