Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Airbus News and Orders Thread

What is AA supposed to be ordering? Rumored to be A321XLR Reuters reporting could be up to 50. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/17/american-airlines-in-talks-for-up-to-50-airbus-a321xlr-jets-reuters.html It seems like a reasonable number for a carrier that should really be a shoe-in for the model.

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread

How is that milking? Yes, they had a deferred ceremonial signing, but all the attention was for the service contracts, also in the media. The media I found did only mention signing the contract to buy the 18 777-9, non mentioned other contracts. A press release is not the media. Try this: https://w...

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Airbus News and Orders Thread

Congrats to Airbus for the orders and the launch of XLR, however is it me or the EIS for XLR is a bit longer than expected, usually variants for airbus takes shorter time to EIS, and we all knew they been working on this for a while we are looking at 3.5 years, thats a long time even for aviation. ...

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

Airlines that disagree with your view: Qantas Air France Singapore British Airways Lfuthansa You better Fone up these airlines and explain why + how you know better than them. I feel like this is a repeat of the A380 debate. How’d that turn out? And before you answer, keep in mind that nothing in y...

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

The pedantry that has permeated this forum of late has really lowered my interest in even reading it, much less continue to participate. It was bad enough when it was just the newbies and fanboys, but now that more established and respected members are starting to willfully engage in it as well... ...

Re: Boeing fnally admits mistake re Max issues

Quote: "The FAA says Boeing's troubled 737 Max may not fly again until December" Yikes faa gonna punish them for making faa look foolish Based on the entire beginning to end of this MAX debacle that we have seen so far, Boeing should be put through the ringer. I’m not saying that certific...

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

IMO, the most-likely part of the EK 777X order to be cut is the 35 777-8s. They can shed those and convert the 40 787-10 to 787-9 for similar CAPEX. That frees Boeing to stop active development on the 777-8 as Etihad has already decided against theirs and Qatar will be happy to be allowed to drop t...

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

Maybe add some 787-8’s in there for flydubai and reduce their MAX order whilst he is at it? Remember flydubai and EK are owned by the same company with ultimatly the same boss. The money comes from the same wallet and would benefit both. Someone had mentioned potential XLR for flydubai. Perhaps Boe...

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

When EK ordered the A330neo/A359, the conventional wisdom seemed to be that they would cancel the 7810 order and instead add 20 +/- 777X’s. Now it sounds like it’d be keeping the 787 order, albeit as -9’s, then reduce the 777X order by 30 +/- frames. The reduction, though, could be done by pushing ...

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

When EK ordered the A330neo/A359, the conventional wisdom seemed to be that they would cancel the 7810 order and instead add 20 +/- 777X’s. Now it sounds like it’d be keeping the 787 order, albeit as -9’s, then reduce the 777X order by 30 +/- frames. The reduction, though, could be done by pushing t...

Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements

The 321 was already outselling Boeing by far. They were in no need to rush things as they were making plenty of money. the a320 leads the nb market, but only by like 8%. why not hit boeing while they're down and further the lead? make that 23%. 6506 to 5008 ordered frames neo to MAX Does the tape m...

Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements

Scorpio wrote:

PlanesNTrains wrote:

That'd be interesting, and perhaps a bit surprising, given that they are said to be interested in exercising A220 options.

I think you're mixing up your airlines codes: KQ = Kenya Airways. KE = Korean Air.

Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements

MileHFL400 wrote:

Seems to be a strong rumor circulating that KQ will order/ lease up to 25 E190 E2’s.

Re: Boeing 737 replacement, back on the table in summer 2019?

Nothing new really. We have known about Boeing’s dilemma for over a decade now. We are still waiting for Boeing’s move. I think a pivot of NMA to NSA right now would be like an investor selling on bad news, which is a bad strategy. I think the way Boeing can recover financially and reputationally i...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

AA's CEO gave a crisp answer yesterday (flying mid August, first scheduled flight Sept 3rd) that some partisans are rejecting in favor of a click bait out of context article that was based on selectively quoting part of a statement made by a FAA official said to be trustworthy which in turn was bas...

Re: First 777-9 for Lufthansa rolls out of final assembly

Well, in LH's case, "full livery" is actually a relative notion. It will be white, white, white. Some people even say it's not really a livery at all. That's because it's not. It's just basic titles on white. By the way, I thought these 777s were being manufactured in CHS not PAE? CHS is ...

Re: Rumour: 777X First Flight Likely Delayed Due GE9X Issues

https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/06/08/the-revolutionary-boeing-777x-jet-is-running-behin.aspx Apparently issues with the GE9X stator actuation mechanism which was the object of a re-design recently. First flight slated before the year end instead of end of June, with EIS for late 2020 or possib...

Re: 777X First Flight Delayed to Year End Due GE9X Issues

I just fail to see how a few weeks or even a 2 months delay can be reported in the thread title as "delayed to year end". The tread opener simply misread the article and people are jumping to try to explain something that hasn't even been mentioned in the article. The thread title should ...

Re: SV to order Airbus

It seems Americans didn’t put enough pressure to take the deal to Boeing.. most likely to replace older A330s & older 777s.. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-airshow/saudia-airline-close-to-placing-order-for-airbus-aircraft-sources-idUSKCN1TD0UV?il=0 So they only order Boeing if pressu...

Re: Mitsubishi to buy the CRJ program?

I'm still not clear on what's wrong with the name? When Airbus bought into the CSeries, they named the Canada operations Airbus Canada. I don't see anyone concerned about Airbus Canada, so why Boeing Brasil? Lots of people, including myself, kicked up a big fuss at the name change to A220. Lots of ...

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2019 Orders

Momo1435 wrote:

Boeing booked no new orders in May.

Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements

A BLOW FOR BOEING 797? AMERICAN CONSIDERS A321XLR Source American Airlines is considering to buy the A321XLS to replace its last 34 Boeing 757-200. If that happens it will be a blow for Boeing and its 797. The order might be announced at the Paris Airshow, or it might be too soon. This was discusse...

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Definitely smoke rising to the east of town.

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

I dropped my wife off at T3S tonight then drove over to the Starbucks on Priest and Washington but it was closed. While sitting planning my next move, a BA 744 on approach did a go around right overhead and the quick cellphone clip showed it to be the Negus livery. So I hustled over to the “viewpoin...

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

Boeing just can’t catch a break. 2019 is a year to forget for the company. It all started with 737 MAX crash, 787 manufacturing safety concern, recent 737 airworthiness directives, lawsuit from left, right and center and now a possible delay for 777x EIS. They pretty much have that kind of year (or...

Re: Boeing in Negotiations With China for Largest-Ever Jetliner Order - Report

smartplane wrote:

China is an extremely strategic purchaser.

Their airlines alone don't make multi-billion dollar purchase decisions.

The order will dangle, just out of reach, until the US elect a different President.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

Seattle Times is reporting possibility of pushing back the 778 timetable in response to lack of demand... Not surprised considering the state of the order book. Boeing did the same with the 777-200LR. Well, I don't know how much it would cost, but pushing back those expenditures would be useful rig...

Re: Boeing in Negotiations With China for Largest-Ever Jetliner Order - Report

Educate me. Has Europe been in a trade war with China recently, or even within the last 20 years? A trade war with tariff increases and retaliation? I'm not trying to start a political debate, but I don't think your recollection of history is correct (though I'm always willing to be educated). Euro...

Re: What is (realistically) next for SEA?

I’m no expert but I could see CLE, BDL, and CLT. BNE and SYD? Both?

Re: Alaska to announce new Paine Field route this week, along with other changes (June 3rd, 2019)

Hawaii (2 year round, 2 seasonal) destinations, Seasonal Mexico (SJD, PVR), JFK, DCA, BOS, ORD, MCI, DAL, AUS, are some of the available connections, some longer than others. I expect PAE to be timed for banks out of PDX, timed - morning 8-11am bank, mid-day 11am - 3pm bank & an evening departu...

Re: Alaska Airlines California Strategy

That ship has sailed. There has long been an airline for intra-California and short-haul from California. It used to be United. Now it's Southwest. On short-haul, frequency matters -- nobody wants to wait three hours for the next 80-minute flight. AS can't put up 3 or 4x daily successfully against ...

Re: Alaska Airlines California Strategy

It's been stated that "SFO-PHX is a given." I ask, if so, why did Virgin never get around to it? I stated up-thread that SFO-PHX is a no-brainer . Not sure if that’s what you’re referencing but I certainly don’t think AS today is planning routes like VX did several years ago. AS has a dec...

Re: Boeing in Negotiations With China for Largest-Ever Jetliner Order - Report

this would probably already have gone through if it was not for the trade war escalation. this was rumored back when a trade deal and an end to the trade war was expected a few months ago. Much of the reason China orders the way they do is to be able to leverage those massive orders for the bigger ...

Re: Alaska Airlines California Strategy

That ship has sailed. There has long been an airline for intra-California and short-haul from California. It used to be United. Now it's Southwest. . You mean PSA, not United... I thought of PSA also. However, UA did also have a large intra-California presence back in the old days. Western did too....

Re: More safety issues for Boeing...

Eh, this is standard AD stuff that is getting magnified due to the Max. You have to be kidding, since when has it become okay to say AD's are normal, they are not, they are issued to rectify serious design flaws or procedures or any abnormalities that affect flight safety. Maybe you're getting conf...

Re: Boeing in Negotiations With China for Largest-Ever Jetliner Order - Report

Incentive for Trump to stop the trade war. These orders probably only goes through as an integral part of the new trade deal. Why there’s no reason to stop it now. It’s probably part of bargaining chips. it’s just as important for China to come to a conclusion to the trade war. Many act like it’s j...

Re: Alaska Airlines California Strategy

I am a monthly flyer between SAN and SMF. WN runs about 11-13 flights a day. AS has three flights. This amount of flights probably serve their locals and gives another option when the WN flights are full, which is almost always. A note, Allegiant has twice weekly service from SAN to SCK (Stockton) ...

Re: More safety issues for Boeing...

Ya, I agree. I'm tired of the combativeness that happens - including my own. I just want to read about planes.airlines, learn a bit, and move on with my day. But agendas....

Re: Alaska Airlines California Strategy

[Alaska is the airline for Washington State, Oregon, Alaska, and a little SFO/LAX. If you want to fly SMF/SJC/SAN-SEA/PDX, sure, they'll do that. AS doesn't begin to have the resources to tackle WN in the broader California market. I get your point about WN being a bigger player, but AS has 20 dest...

Re: Alaska to announce new Paine Field route this week, along with other changes (June 3rd, 2019)

It occurred to me that the times of the new PSP flights are very nicely suited to hotel stays: arrive the Springs ~3pm and after the turn there, the return flight leaves just before 4! So those folks who don't have homes in the desert are being nicely accommodated for their pay-to-stay arrangements...