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by ContinentalEWR
Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US-Dubrovnik - Summer 2021 Results
Replies: 28
Views: 3709

US-Dubrovnik - Summer 2021 Results

With the last days of the Summer 2021 travel season winding down, wondering how EWR-DBV and JFK-DBV performed for UA and DL respectively. DL hasn't confirmed the JFK-DBV flight is returning in Summer 2022 which is somewhat telling. AA was the first of the US3 to fly to DBV nonstop ( from PHL) and di...

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by ContinentalEWR
Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2139
Views: 410367

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021

It’s very clear by now largely everything will be open. That said yes I agree with you fully they will play it more conservative. I’m hearing Miami-Milan will be back and I suspect maybe connecting more dots, stuff like Dallas-Barcelona, but I don’t expect anything like UA. But there is massive pen...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2139
Views: 410367

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021

AA125/126 DFW-HKG-DFW is back in the schedule from 10/30/21 I’m wondering if they are resuming based on cargo demand alone and carrying the few inbound-HKG willing to subject to the quarantine etc. The passenger DFW-FRA-DFW is also upgauging to B77E in December. Seeing SQ jump back on SFO-HKG must ...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2139
Views: 410367

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021

It is almost November. AA better come up with an announcement for international routes for the 2022 season soon. Especially after United's impressing adds. The 787 delivery issues must be complicating things. I think AA prefers to be conservative about new TATL routes right now. I doubt anything wi...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2139
Views: 410367

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021

I'm a bit impressed with some of AA's new routes LF wise: For July AUS-MCO-95.1% BOS-AVL-94.7% BOS-ILM-93.5% AUS-LAS-92.7% BOS-FLL-91.6% JFK-FLL-90.9% AUS-RDU-86.7% JFK-SNA-85.9% AUS-TPA-84.1% JFK-JAC-82.5% BOS-JAC-79.1% Cheap fares will do that. Doesn’t matter where I’m looking, AA always seems to...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 302
Views: 55602

Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q4 2021

I totally agree that, in light of Scott Kirby himself saying Asia traffic is in the dumps and will stay that way 'til at least 2023, predicting anything west was suspect. A lot of these new markets, though, are the sorts of markets the consensus on these boards thought were impossible years ago. Ma...

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by ContinentalEWR
Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14
Replies: 350
Views: 51199

Re: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14

You don’t need FIS for international departures. FRA leaves from B all the time. It probably came down to aircraft availability. Currently United has to ferry international aircraft from Concourse A over to Concourse B for departures. With United taking the 23 gates over at Concourse A in 2022, the...

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by ContinentalEWR
Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14
Replies: 350
Views: 51199

Re: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14

UA spreads TATL arrivals between B and C and it's all pretty efficient. Flew into EWR at peak times pre-pandemic from Europe and never had major issues. I was going to ask about this. Any idea when C international arrivals is opening again? Terminal C international arrivals is already open for sele...

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by ContinentalEWR
Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14
Replies: 350
Views: 51199

Re: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14

I'm not sure why exactly it was cut, loads were consistently in the 70-80s. If Delta can get that on a 757, then I can't see how United would struggle to fill a 737 MAX I think United also has the upper hand since there's a massive Azorean/Portuguese population near Newark which may be more attract...

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by ContinentalEWR
Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14
Replies: 350
Views: 51199

Re: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14

Thanks for the list, Nicknuzzii . I was actually about to ask how many transatlantic flights this would make for UA. All I can think about is what immigration will be like with most of these flights arriving very closely together. Oh, the humanity! (Though while I have departed internationally from...

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by ContinentalEWR
Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14
Replies: 350
Views: 51199

Re: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14

Can anyone breakdown what UA’s EWR transatlantic service look like next summer with frequencies? I think LHR just went back to 2X. Will it stay there for now? Here’s my list that I made myself so there could be a few errors; 1x 787 AMS 1x 767 ATH 1x 767 BCN 3x weekly, 757 BGO 1x 767 BER 1x 777 BRU ...

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by ContinentalEWR
Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14
Replies: 350
Views: 51199

Re: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14

EWR-PDL: DL briefly operated PDL from JFK in 2018/19 and it was cut for 2020 (pre-COVID) I'm not sure why exactly it was cut, loads were consistently in the 70-80s. If Delta can get that on a 757, then I can't see how United would struggle to fill a 737 MAX I think United also has the upper hand si...

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by ContinentalEWR
Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1998
Views: 475971

Re: New Italian airline: ITA Airways

Polot wrote:
I don’t understand the blue in the livery. It looks like it was designed by someone who thinks color = great design (eg half of A.net).


The livery is ugly, but blue is a symbol of Italy. Azzuri. It is much more than football though most closely associated with the sport.

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by ContinentalEWR
Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14
Replies: 350
Views: 51199

Re: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14

What’s the scoop with Bergen, Norway? Big business hub or something? Cruises and amazing countryside. So: mainly Tourism. Much more than that. Norway's second largest city and It is a point of departure for Fjord Cruises and smaller vessels for exploring the region (and it's beautiful) but also in ...

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by ContinentalEWR
Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 302
Views: 55602

Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q4 2021

Note the EWR-PDA (Azores) route is shown as a 38M by the Point Guy. EWR-PDL 2,238 nm in comparison to LAX-HNL 2,221 nm and BOS-SFO 2,350 nm The MAX has the range for EWR-PDA. The MAX flew TATL routes of longer stage lengths in the past. Shouldn't be an issue. Whether it will be a pleasant experienc...

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by ContinentalEWR
Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 302
Views: 55602

Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q4 2021

The KUL, SIN, MNL nonstop predictions were absurd. This was always going to be about TATL. I totally agree that, in light of Scott Kirby himself saying Asia traffic is in the dumps and will stay that way 'til at least 2023, predicting anything west was suspect. A lot of these new markets, though, a...

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by ContinentalEWR
Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 302
Views: 55602

Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q4 2021

Never in a million years would I have guessed most of these. Newark to Bergen, Norway Newark to Palma de Mallorca, Spain Newark to Ponta Delgada, Portugal (Azores) Newark to Tenerife, Spain (Canary Islands) Washington to Amman, Jordan Chicago to Milan, Italy Denver to Munich, Germany Washington to ...

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by ContinentalEWR
Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Skytrax: the new BER airport is horrible
Replies: 71
Views: 17722

Re: Skytrax: the new BER airport is horrible

I flew in and out of BER this summer and can honestly say, the reviews are not wrong. The layout is cumbersome, a bit illogical, and there are numerous inconveniences that are a direct result of the terminal layout. TXL was quaint, but evolved into a mess in its later years. Flew out of the SXF term...

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by ContinentalEWR
Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1998
Views: 475971

Re: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread

N14AZ wrote:
I don’t get it. So if they do not find an agreement until midnight, would they still take off with aircraft that use the Alitalia brand?


Yes. It's Italy.

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by ContinentalEWR
Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14
Replies: 350
Views: 51199

Re: Rumor: New United international routes 10/13

Pacific: 1) EWR-SIN (SQ is operating the flight via JFK, UA may want to drive SQ out of EWR long term). 2) SFO-BKK (Thailand reopens in a few weeks) 3) DEN-PPT (Would connect PPT to the middle of the country. Could the 763 or 788 make this one? The 789 would be too much) South America: Always bound...

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by ContinentalEWR
Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14
Replies: 350
Views: 51199

Re: Rumor: New United international routes 10/13

Pacific: 1) EWR-SIN (SQ is operating the flight via JFK, UA may want to drive SQ out of EWR long term). 2) SFO-BKK (Thailand reopens in a few weeks) 3) DEN-PPT (Would connect PPT to the middle of the country. Could the 763 or 788 make this one? The 789 would be too much) South America: 1) EWR-SCL (...

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by ContinentalEWR
Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 302
Views: 55602

Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q4 2021

Anybody know why UA dropped DEN-LHR? Having to go through IAD or EWR is not ideal. Those flights are too short and you can’t get enough sleep. IAH is only ok, as they still fly the ancient 6-across biz class planes. DEN was a sweet spot. DEN-LHR was suspended because of the pandemic and overall red...

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by ContinentalEWR
Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA wants to know what actions Airlines are going to do to curb unruly passenger incidents
Replies: 139
Views: 12812

Re: FAA wants to know what actions Airlines are going to do to curb unruly passenger incidents

Airlines were cost optimised for years getting rid of so many comfort features and putting in more seats for tighter seating. People fight over carry on space and schlepp their stuff upstairs and downstairs and onboard their flights. Now in times of additional stress, like terror fear and covid, ha...

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by ContinentalEWR
Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1998
Views: 475971

Re: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread

If ITA is given the chance to choose the (few) young, motivated, dynamic, positive and (often) cheaper employees, they may well have a chance. If the government looks at politics as usual and makes them keep the old, unionised, inefficient, customer-hating, self-entitled Alitalia employees of the p...

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asuflyer wrote:
The first aircraft for ITA EI-EIB Ex-Alitalia has left the IAC paint shop in Shannon.

Image

https://twitter.com/AndythePandy_/statu ... 1172627465


That is really ugly.

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by ContinentalEWR
Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1998
Views: 475971

Re: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread

So in the long run, will the concept of a small niche carrier with service to selected business and long haul markets work, or is joining LHG, IAG & AFKL the only way out for AZ? This isn’t a new concept, and ITA’s wide body deals show they have no intention of staying a small niche carrier in ...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 896
Views: 112163

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021

With 71PDEW CLE>AUS would represent almost no risk for UA by adding an E75 on the route. No idea why not do this other than it would steal seats from CLE>IAH. WN can't downsize, so UA is at an advantage if they want to start the route. A CLE-AUS nonstop, once daily, on an E175 isn't going to siphon...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 896
Views: 112163

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021

I wouldn’t be surprised if these get extended past March, Some of the post-hub UA Florida destinations started as single-flight seasonal then just kept expanding out. I have to admit UA adding NAS, LAS and PHX this winter is quite surprising to me. Florida is one thing but dedicating 737s to fly tr...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL International BOS Additions
Replies: 90
Views: 17412

Re: DL International BOS Additions

Personally unless it's cheap, I don't think I'll ever want to connect in Boston. Did it the first time this year and the airport is a dump. Overcrowded, ugly, narrow corridors, rude staff all around and you get a feeling you are moving through some sort of a basement. Many US airports have consider...

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by ContinentalEWR
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 896
Views: 112163

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021

Looks like United is resuming CLE-LAS/PHX for the winter. Both non stop fights resume December 16th on 737-800 aircraft, operate through March. https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-airlines-nonstop-flights-florida-midwest/ PHX and LAS were regular destinations from CLE on CO/UA in the hub days. Nic...

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by ContinentalEWR
Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LGA Airtrain halted by Governor
Replies: 248
Views: 38166

Re: Updated: LGA Airtrain halted by Governor

A real mistake not to build a rail connection to LGA, even a flawed one, although the price tag is likely as high as it was thanks to kickbacks and other shady contractual negotiations that likely are always part of infrastructure construction in and around NYC. The issue here is the traffic. It is ...

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by ContinentalEWR
Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2139
Views: 410367

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021

This is an interesting article on the situation at AA- https://viewfromthewing.com/american-airlines-penny-wise-pound-foolish-and-saddled-with-40-billion-in-debt/ It's all a bit biased (starting with constant references to "Tempe Management" or at the very least not an official industry r...

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by ContinentalEWR
Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL International BOS Additions
Replies: 90
Views: 17412

Re: DL International BOS Additions

The DoJ has no case, at this point. The argument is in favor of competition. Looking at the JFK, BOS, LGA map, there's plenty of it. The DOJ isn't going to frame this as 'enough competition.' It's going to frame it as 'There would be more competition without the NEA.' DL's adds are irrelevant to th...

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by ContinentalEWR
Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL International BOS Additions
Replies: 90
Views: 17412

Re: DL International BOS Additions

The DoJ has no case, at this point. The argument is in favor of competition. Looking at the JFK, BOS, LGA map, there's plenty of it. The DOJ isn't going to frame this as 'enough competition.' It's going to frame it as 'There would be more competition without the NEA.' DL's adds are irrelevant to th...

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by ContinentalEWR
Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL International BOS Additions
Replies: 90
Views: 17412

Re: DL International BOS Additions

Fun seeing DL poke AA a bit with this move (albeit indirectly). Indeed, but this could also have the effect of helping bolster AA's argument against the DOJ (assuming they take it that far, which appears at this point to be the case)... Yes. Absolutely. DL's BOS adds sort of neutralizes the DoJ cas...

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by ContinentalEWR
Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2139
Views: 410367

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021

CF reporting that AA is going to operate DFW-MAD this winter after all, and that DFW-CDG is going double daily in the Spring of 2022, restoring its pre-pandemic schedule on this route.

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by ContinentalEWR
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership
Replies: 920
Views: 143574

Re: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership

AA nor B6 operate either of these routes. DL has focused on BOS for years now and these were the next logical international adds. What does this have anything to do with the NEA alliance? Jeremy B6 offers BOS-TLV via its partnership with El Al. You conveniently left out the concurrent BOS-BWI/DEN/S...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2139
Views: 410367

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021

With Delta announcing Athens today from a 3rd US city I think it would be a missed opportunity for AA not to announce Dallas - Athens for next year. Why? AA will have JFK, PHL, and ORD to ATH. There are rumors of DFW-ATH being launched, but if it does launch, it certainly won't be because DL added ...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2139
Views: 410367

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021

With Delta announcing Athens today from a 3rd US city I think it would be a missed opportunity for AA not to announce Dallas - Athens for next year. Why? AA will have JFK, PHL, and ORD to ATH. There are rumors of DFW-ATH being launched, but if it does launch, it certainly won't be because DL added ...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Swissair grounding anniversary
Replies: 28
Views: 5166

Re: Swissair grounding anniversary

A great airline killed by hubris. Strategically it was a mess at the end. Anybody remembers Qualiflier and their attempt to build their own airline alliance? And all the shareholdings in dubious airlines *cough* Sabena *cough* Wait, isn't that a lot like Etihad Partners? ;) Talk about history going...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership
Replies: 920
Views: 143574

Re: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership

DL's just announced BOS-TLV and BOS-ATH routes clearly indicate the B6/AA Northeast Alliance is about generating more competition, not curbing it. The DoJ has no case and needs to drop it.

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by ContinentalEWR
Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Swissair grounding anniversary
Replies: 28
Views: 5166

Re: Swissair grounding anniversary

Are some people perhaps looking at Swissair with rose tinted glasses ? Swiss, its successor, is a remarkably good airline with a size and ego suited to the population and economy of the country that it serves. Switzerland already has excellent connectivity globally - it doesn't need an airline that...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Swissair grounding anniversary
Replies: 28
Views: 5166

Re: Swissair grounding anniversary

Swissair was a wonderful airline, an iconic brand, and a distinctive symbol of Switzerland's global reach. It was plagued with problems long before its demise. Operationally, it wasn't a model of Swiss efficiency. Delays were frequent. Equipment substitutions happened quite often on long hauls, but ...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2139
Views: 410367

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021

Yes, weak in the northeast which they previously have characterized as primarily the key NYC market. AA has publicrly stated they have been loss-making in NYC for years, and due restrictions - be it slots, or facilities really had no means to organically scale up enough to match DL or UA. As a comp...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1998
Views: 475971

Re: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread

Will the upcoming Airbus order replaced AZ existing fleet? A lot of it, yes by the looks of this wildly optimistic order. All the A330s except 1 are leased. AZ owns 1 777 I think. The A320s and A319s are older models and likely on very high lease rates given AZ's financial condition. The 777s thems...

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by ContinentalEWR
Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1998
Views: 475971

Re: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread

Maybe I missed the link but how is Alitalia different from maybe Swissair, Sabena, Pan Am(?) in the sale of the name. I understood that eg Crossair could not use Swissair, it had to be a new brand. Could American Airlines sell the TWA name? I hope ITA comes to a good price all the same. Alitalia is...

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by ContinentalEWR
Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:43 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: AA 953 JFK-EZE Massive Delays
Replies: 2
Views: 398

Re: AA 953 JFK-EZE Massive Delays

AA 953 and the JFK-EZE operation is subject to inbound passenger caps at EZE. Argentina long ago mandated arrivals be spread throughout the 24 hour day to reduce congestion in arrivals as a pandemic, social-distancing COVID19 measure. The actual schedule of JFK-EZE on AA has been very random from th...

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by ContinentalEWR
Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1998
Views: 475971

Re: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread

The leased A350s may be some of the aircraft which were returned by some less fortunate airlines, like LATAM, Air Mauritius, HNA group, South African... I believe Delta picked some of LATAM's A350s but not all, correct? ITA said they were hunting for bargain leases, I believe this was more importan...

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by ContinentalEWR
Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2021
Replies: 290
Views: 45083

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2021

Curious as to whether QF will reopen JFK with the 789 or the A332 that will operate BNE-LAX. QF has flown the 332 into JFK in the past, when it operated AKL-LAX with one. It could be either but it is also possible that LAX-JFK remains suspended and pax are moved onto AA. If Sunrise happens, LAX-JFK...

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by ContinentalEWR
Wed Sep 29, 2021 11:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA signs codeshare agreement with Indian LCC Indigo Airlines
Replies: 55
Views: 5797

Re: AA signs codeshare agreement with Indian LCC Indigo Airlines

Vistara and dare I say AI on this site are arguable the only premium full service carriers in India anyways, and Vistara is co-owned by Singapore airlines so that was the expectation anyways AI & Vistara are just "premium", but neither have the network, reach or frequency of what 6E h...

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