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by Web500sjc
Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Skywest/OO Q2 Earnings Due Out Thursday 7/30
Replies: 42
Views: 5287

Re: Skywest/OO Q2 Earnings Due Out Thursday 7/30

A win? They're probably not going to be cash-positive (let alone report a profit). It becomes a question - as for all carriers - of enough liquidity to ride this out... however long that may be. SkyWest is not subject to passenger demand like DL, UA or AA. OO should be making money because their bu...

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by Web500sjc
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2 AA aircraft hit each other at DFW
Replies: 28
Views: 9786

Re: 2 AA aircraft hit each other at DFW

I swear officer, the plane parked at the gate with the Jetway attached just came out of nowhere and hit me! Guess a pilot misjudged and a wing walker didn't catch it. Generally not far off. From the cockpit you really have to stretch in order to see a wing tip (even then you can only see the one on...

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by Web500sjc
Fri May 29, 2020 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France A380 retirement/parking thread
Replies: 483
Views: 61286

Re: Air France to retire A380 fleet effective immediately

So much non sense about A380 as usual. How is A380 somehow hard to fill but 2 of A350 and 4 of A321 are easy to fill? If demand is low so is the fuel price. How can demand for oil be low and price of it high to be expensive to operate? Refurbishments are normal price like any other model maybe more...

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by Web500sjc
Sun May 24, 2020 4:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Will Have 7,000 Extra Pilots in Fall
Replies: 176
Views: 23753

Re: DL Will Have 7,000 Extra Pilots in Fall

How about Endeavor? There is no public information about any changes to Endeavor or Republic flying in the Delta Portfolio. Those companies are not publicly traded so there is no required report, they have yet to make any announcements themselves, and have not had a comment from Delta. Therefore th...

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by Web500sjc
Sun May 24, 2020 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Will Have 7,000 Extra Pilots in Fall
Replies: 176
Views: 23753

Re: DL Will Have 7,000 Extra Pilots in Fall

What had been the impact on pilots of DL Connection carriers? CPZ and GoJet were operating for Delta Connection at the beginning of COVID, but we’re slated to end Delta Connection flying by the end of summer 2020. That change was accelerated, by the end of March 2020 both carriers had ended Delta C...

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by Web500sjc
Thu May 21, 2020 11:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Skywest parking at Salina and Central Wisconsin?
Replies: 51
Views: 8973

Re: Skywest parking at Salina and Central Wisconsin?

DiamondFlyer wrote:
amcnd wrote:
Looks like all the OO owned 900’s are in SBN. All the 70 seat DL owned 900’s are in FAT...

Where are the OO operated, DL owned 76 seat 900s?


Last I checked, they are in FAT.

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by Web500sjc
Thu May 21, 2020 3:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 747
Views: 117462

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

What you've proposed would make sense if the entry point to ZA were CPT -- it will be JNB, however. Don't over think the pairing logistics: Duty Day 1: ATL-JNB ; ~24hr layover Duty Day 2: JNB-CPT; ~24hr layover Duty Day 3: CPT-ATL; home This would equate to a 4- or 5-day pairing depending on depart...

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by Web500sjc
Wed May 20, 2020 2:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United exercises options for 8 787-10s
Replies: 140
Views: 25094

Re: United exercises options for 7 787-10s

Head has to be solidly in the sand to not see that 10/1 the effects of displacement bids will be felt and furloughs will begin. The 75/767 are largely junior at UA. Furloughs will therefore have an effect on pilots on those fleets in a disproportionate way. When you say the 757s and 767s are junior...

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by Web500sjc
Tue May 19, 2020 1:33 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can the A359 Do JNB-ATL for DL With Meaningful Cargo?
Replies: 98
Views: 10648

Re: Can the A359 Do JNB-ATL for DL With Meaningful Cargo?

What some here don't take into consideration is that you don't have a fleet of planes just because they fly one route better. Here's a thought. With the talk, before the virus took over, of DL expanding MIA due to the LATAM hookup, they could move the JNB to Miami and save over 400 miles. Just a th...

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by Web500sjc
Mon May 18, 2020 2:26 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can the A359 Do JNB-ATL for DL With Meaningful Cargo?
Replies: 98
Views: 10648

Re: Can the A359 Do JNB-ATL for DL With Meaningful Cargo?

What some here don't take into consideration is that you don't have a fleet of planes just because they fly one route better. Here's a thought. With the talk, before the virus took over, of DL expanding MIA due to the LATAM hookup, they could move the JNB to Miami and save over 400 miles. Just a th...

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by Web500sjc
Mon May 18, 2020 2:05 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can the A359 Do JNB-ATL for DL With Meaningful Cargo?
Replies: 98
Views: 10648

Re: Can the A359 Do JNB-ATL for DL With Meaningful Cargo?

OK, one example, quite exemplary. Delta departed at around 2100 LT. Today, METAR says 13C. That's more or less ISA+10 at 5500ft. Assuming whole 4400m rwy 03L/21R is available. Approximating 2/3 between ISA and ISA+15 (at 4500m length) from ACAPS gives around 272t MTOW (for 5500ft altitude). Assume ...

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by Web500sjc
Fri May 15, 2020 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 747
Views: 117462

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

I completely understand why DL is retiring their entire 777 fleet I get it all airlines are in survival mode and making difficult decisions. The pilot memo that says the problem has been fixed is what really peaked my interest because the problem has never been fully defined. Some on this thread su...

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by Web500sjc
Thu May 14, 2020 1:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1951
Views: 339599

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

So the 777 will be parked within 10 months of finishing a Major overhaul of the aircraft. The last LR finished The D1 suite in 02/2020, first 777 finished the D1 suite in 03/2019. From a route structure, this obviously puts JNB in an interesting position, especially with South African Airways having...

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by Web500sjc
Wed May 13, 2020 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA planning layoffs but not AA, DL etc..?
Replies: 110
Views: 14958

Re: UA planning layoffs but not AA, DL etc..?

Some of these union contracts have layoff limits. For example, people hired prior to a certain date have layoff protection. Will airlines break the contract by invoking a clause such as "act of God" to be able to layoff more than the contract limit? If the airline takes the government loa...

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by Web500sjc
Tue May 12, 2020 1:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: A major US airline likely will go out of business this year,
Replies: 308
Views: 41551

Re: Boeing CEO: A major US airline likely will go out of business this year,

The CEO of Boeing was asked by the News anchor “The money that the government used to bail out the airlines ends in September. So they are going to have to start laying off people. Do you expect the airlines to be able to survive this, do you think there may be a major US carrier that has to go out ...

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by Web500sjc
Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: To be in Compliance with CARES Act B6 to Add Routes Like SFO-SMF,MCO-SRQ,MSY-IAH, SLC-BZN, etc
Replies: 120
Views: 18167

Re: To be in Compliance with CARES Act B6 to Add Routes Like SFO-SMF,MCO-SRQ,MSY-IAH, SLC-BZN, etc

B6 isn't done. They are now petitioning to drop the following destinations: ATL Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta International Airport CLT Charlotte Douglas International Airport ORD Chicago O’Hare International Airport DFW Dallas/Ft. Worth International Airport DEN Denver International Airport DTW Detro...

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by Web500sjc
Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: To be in Compliance with CARES Act B6 to Add Routes Like SFO-SMF,MCO-SRQ,MSY-IAH, SLC-BZN, etc
Replies: 120
Views: 18167

Re: CARES Act Forces B6 to Add Routes Like SFO-SMF,MCO-SRQ,MSY-IAH, SLC-BZN, etc

Since virtually all airlines have to participate to remain viable, your argument is not very compelling. Then accept the conditions as laid out. Don't hate the players, hate the game. I believe the Minimum Air Service act would apply even if B6 did not take the money. As far as minimum air service ...

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by Web500sjc
Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: To be in Compliance with CARES Act B6 to Add Routes Like SFO-SMF,MCO-SRQ,MSY-IAH, SLC-BZN, etc
Replies: 120
Views: 18167

Re: CARES Act Forces B6 to Add Routes Like SFO-SMF,MCO-SRQ,MSY-IAH, SLC-BZN, etc

Mixed feelings on this. The idea of allowing the Government to dictate which routes a carrier to serve al la the CAB back in the day, not good. However, the agreement clearly states what will be expected of said carrier. And I believe that similar rules are being applied to other industries. Again,...

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by Web500sjc
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: DL looking to trade 717s for 737 Max
Replies: 365
Views: 63260

Re: DL looking to trade 717s for 100 737 Max

So they want to trade 91 10-20 year-old aircraft for 100 brand new ones? If true, another example of Delta's arrogance. First off, I highly doubt DL is trying to make that exact trade, I think they are just trying to use the 717s they have as equity in a potential purchase. Now that we’re past that...

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by Web500sjc
Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020
Replies: 542
Views: 99341

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

It seams “lack of demand” and/or “served by someone else” are not valid excuses. That’s a very hardline stance. I am interested to see what happens with Hawaii, my assumption is there will be a “blanket” policy for all airlines on service between the mainland and Hawaii. I.e must continue to serve h...

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by Web500sjc
Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36519

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

The 170-195 were design to be flown together in commonwealth . i never heard about the175 being specifically designed for the us regional scope clauses. It has been Designed for right fleet sizing in the 70to130 seat market. Check the embaer website. E175 MTOW- 89,000lbs Max MTOW for DL to outsourc...

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by Web500sjc
Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36519

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Embraer needs a launch customer first. As noted before, the E170 was purpose built for scope. When scope opened up more, the E-175 took over the market. If it's entire purpose was to circumvent some American scope requirements, then why did so many land at non-US operators? Finnair, Alitalia, LOT, ...

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by Web500sjc
Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36519

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Were I an Embraer investor, I'd be wanting answers from management over the EMB-175 E2. Unless there's some significant factor I've missed, there seems to be no reason for a hugely successful manufacturer of regional aircraft to deliberately design an aircraft that does not comply with an economic ...

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by Web500sjc
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Consolidation of Airport Operations
Replies: 46
Views: 9086

Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

SNA has walled off gates 1-4 and 17-22. Additionally Security A is closed.

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by Web500sjc
Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 3/29/2020: Meltdown
Replies: 109
Views: 17173

Re: OAG Changes 3/29/2020: Meltdown

Jo8338 wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
AA JFK reduced to practically nothing:

April 17th: 7 destinations & 19 total flights, no regional jets


It would make sense to consolidate all ops in gates 1-12 and close off the remaining terminal.



They Already shutdown T7 at JFK, and moved those flights to T8

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by Web500sjc
Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Early retirement for flight crews
Replies: 72
Views: 11476

Re: Early retirement for flight crews

I don't understand why people think this is so complicated, it's a pretty straightforward seniority system, if your work goes away you just bump somebody junior to you. But then again I've worked in transportation or been around the transportation industry most of my life. I'm not in the industry a...

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by Web500sjc
Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 336781

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Delta is parking A339s and A350s? I guess so. They are scheduled to arrive in BHM tomorrow and have 9000 flight numbers. Can someone explain that to me - why would they park them in another country? BHM- Birmingham, Alabama it’s 123NM west of ATL. The location indicates that they are being parked t...

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by Web500sjc
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020
Replies: 1143
Views: 182707

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020

Texas77 wrote:

I don't know, being stranded in Maui might not be so bad...



It’s not the “being stranded” in Maui that would be bad. Paying for the 2 week quarantine in Maui, that would be bad.

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by Web500sjc
Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:44 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Wiring/controls and uncontained failures
Replies: 6
Views: 1298

Re: Wiring/controls and uncontained failures

Obviously, this question is inspired by the recent FAA directive to move certain wiring bundles in the 737MAX to provide more safety in the event of an uncontained failure, but my question is more general. Consider an uncontained failure involving a turbine disk (high-temperature, high-speed, high-...

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by Web500sjc
Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Trans States Shutting Down & ExpressJet losing the 175s
Replies: 83
Views: 19418

Re: Confirmed: Trans States Shutting Down & ExpressJet losing the 175s

GoJet recently lost Delta flying, so now they only have United. And with Trans States leaving the picture, the overall Trans States Holding operation is getting considerably smaller. GoJet is marketing the hell out of the "CRJ-550" which is literally just a CRJ-700 with fewer seats so it ...

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by Web500sjc
Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:11 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: CPT - Alternate/Diversion Airport Question
Replies: 20
Views: 1961

Re: CPT - Alternate/Diversion Airport Question

60 minutes out, those airports would be within range, just about overhead JNB or BFN. From EWR, they’d look at Windhoek. Once you start descent, the options get fewer, unless the remaining fuel was planned for an alternate. As far as US Rules are concerned (since were talking about UA), flights ove...

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by Web500sjc
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JFK T4A Expansion
Replies: 114
Views: 21455

Re: JFK T4A Expansion

I wonder if Delta will get some gate space in a newly constructed Terminal 1, the part that would occupy the already demolished WorldPort (?) Reason being there are a lot of planes parked at the former Terminal 3 area now, more than the 4 net gates can accommodate once Terminal 2 is demolished and ...

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by Web500sjc
Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo
Replies: 120
Views: 20786

Re: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo

Update: Here's the official press release from Delta. Included is an additional photo showing the front of the seat. From what I can gather, its the same size as a typical domestic F seat, but with a shell installed around it for privacy / sleeping. There also appears to be a footrest in the photos...

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by Web500sjc
Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:24 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Widebody capital now that China suspended
Replies: 43
Views: 6846

Re: Widebody capital now that China suspended

Some (much?) of it won't be flown in this off-season. DL said they're suspending 42 flights/week U.S. China (each way?). It's not like they're going to dump that capacity into LHR (no slots; trashed yields). They will find enough to keep pilots current and frames ready. https://news.delta.com/delta...

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by Web500sjc
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future of YUL
Replies: 80
Views: 11673

Re: Future of YUL

Disqualifying YUL's int'l growth numbers as irrelevant compared to overall growth at american fortress hubs? You do realize the thread topic is YUL physical expansion due to saturation and projected growth and so other airports and their overall growth aren't really aren't relevant to the discussio...

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by Web500sjc
Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:54 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Overweight section on planes?
Replies: 31
Views: 5148

Re: Overweight section on planes?

First and Business class have wider and more spacious seats...

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by Web500sjc
Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What could replace Delta's SNA - ATL 757 flights?
Replies: 32
Views: 5474

Re: What could replace Delta's SNA - ATL 757 flights?

You must have a short memory. DL dropped DTW/SNA only once (during the Great Recession, after "moving" the flight from CVG and operating it as a redeye), and has continually operated it since resuming service nearly three years ago. Average fares are sold and load factors are very high. D...

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by Web500sjc
Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What could replace Delta's SNA - ATL 757 flights?
Replies: 32
Views: 5474

Re: What could replace Delta's SNA - ATL 757 flights9N

Delta has been flying 757-200s between SNA and ATL since 1987. With these aircraft getting up there in age, they won't be around forever to fly in and out of this unique airport. I think the 739ER and A321 would both be too heavy, plus the 737 and 738 would be downsizes. Although the A220-100 could...

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by Web500sjc
Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56642

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

Ok, assume the question is coming from someone with responsibility of other people’s lives. Does dumping fuel in the last 15 miles of a flight make much of a difference in landing weight? The point of dumping fuel is too make the A/C lighter, a lighter aircraft will be softer on the gear and weight...

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by Web500sjc
Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56642

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

[I can’t imagine the answer would depend on who is asking the question. When you ask if it makes much of a difference it is spoken by someone who doesn’t have the responsibility of other people’s lives or their own line on the line. It makes a difference, that is all that matters. Ok, assume the qu...

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by Web500sjc
Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AM Grows 787 Fleet
Replies: 32
Views: 5842

Re: AM Grows 787 Fleet

AM's widebody fleet may jump up to 30 787s in the not-to-distant future. Not official yet, but as part of what looks like compensation from Boeing for the 737MAX grounding, the manufacturer is offering firm 787 options to the carrier. All the 19 originally ordered batch composed of 9 788 and 10 789...

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by Web500sjc
Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL 148 LAS-CDG diverts
Replies: 10
Views: 4839

DL 148 LAS-CDG diverts

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2020/01/10/delta-flight-makes-emergency-landing-boston-en-route-paris/4432211002/ Saw this on the news. DL was operating a special section from LAS-CDG, DL148 (among other LAS flights this week). Just before the A/C reached Labrador canada, there wa...

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by Web500sjc
Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QF9 Load Restrictions to due Iran/Iraq closure
Replies: 35
Views: 9385

Re: QF9 Load Restrictions to due Iran/Iraq closure

On FR24 QF9 is over Sri Lanka as of 18.27pm U.K time. With an estimated time of 04.41am. That route will indeed add 50 mins. That detour around the northern part of Iran is quite significant because they will also likely have to detour around Crimea. Make me think that QF doesn't have overflight ri...

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by Web500sjc
Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:59 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Single pilot flight decks
Replies: 48
Views: 2738

Re: Single pilot flight decks

As much as I do not agree with it, from an airline POV, the cost savings of cutting their numbers of pilots almost in half must have them salivating. And, they know technically its feasible. Or will be. 2100, I'd say more like 2050. starting with whatever version of 50 seat regionals and then worki...

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by Web500sjc
Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO resigns, David Calhoun named President and CEO
Replies: 300
Views: 38972

Re: Boeing CEO resigns, David Calhoun named President and CEO

Mullenburg needed to go, but calling a stress test of the 777X a program failure? Come on people. The test was done for a reason. You all act as if everything should be perfect from conception. After the test they know which components need to be changed. Some of you act as of the wings fell off on...

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by Web500sjc
Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA sues DL over the use of the term “Flagship”
Replies: 322
Views: 34343

Re: AA sues DL over the use of the term “Flagship”

https://news.delta.com/sites/default/files/ig%201016%20A350%20Showcase%20graphic-Media%20Kit_HUB-01.png Attached is the marketing announcement DL used to introduce the A350. The headline is “Delta’s New Flagship Aircraft. Airbus A350” That is the only time in the page that the word “flagship” is use...

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by Web500sjc
Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA sues DL over the use of the term “Flagship”
Replies: 322
Views: 34343

AA sues DL over the use of the term “Flagship”

https://www.law360.com/articles/1230308/american-airlines-sues-delta-over-flagship-trademark It seams AA is suing DL over the use of term “Flagship”. AA thinks that DLs use of the term in relation to DLs description of their own DL One suite in their “flagship a350s”, or their “flagship DL sky club ...

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by Web500sjc
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:29 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Piaggio P.180 Avanti
Replies: 45
Views: 6746

Re: Piaggio P.180 Avanti

It's not a cheap aircraft at all. Remember a private jet company charged us 3500€ for AVN - LBG flight (321NM) Lufthansa may charge you that for 7 or 8 seats on a regular CRJ seat over that distance .... Best regards Thomas I dont get the comparison :-) The avanti has 7-8 seats. Getting 7-8 seats m...

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by Web500sjc
Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Potential orders for A35KULR?
Replies: 91
Views: 12144

Re: Potential orders for A35KULR?

How about Delta to replace their 77Ls? I can see that especially now that they are looking to reduce their number of fleet types. I don’t think the A35KULR will have enough range to replace the 77L on the JNB flight. I do not believe you.Please explain? As stated above, the A35K is MTOW limited to ...

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by Web500sjc
Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:04 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Could Aeromexico be rebranded to Delta Mexico?
Replies: 7
Views: 1257

Re: Could Aeromexico be rebranded to Delta Mexico?

The Delta pilots have negotiated protections as to the use of the Delta brand (and DL codes) on aircraft not flown by Delta pilots. The most visible example of this negotiated protection is via the Scope clause used to define “regional flying” vs “mainline” and more recently in JV production balance...

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